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Why CEOs need to think more like athletes, with investor Byron Deeter

Why CEOs need to think more like athletes, with investor Byron Deeter

Update: 2026-04-162
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This podcast features investor Byron Dieter, who shares his journey from founding Trigo Technologies to becoming a venture capitalist at Bessemer Venture Partners. He emphasizes a philosophy of investing in already great companies and helping them achieve excellence, rather than fixing mediocrity. Dieter discusses the early challenges and eventual success of cloud computing with Trigo, highlighting the importance of customer advocacy and engaging difficult clients. He also delves into the founder's role in long-term growth, the significance of conviction and coachability in entrepreneurs, and the strategic sale of Trigo to IBM. Dieter reflects on his transition to venture capital, stressing the value of an operator's perspective and efficient communication. He advocates for a multi-horizon investment view, citing the potential of vertical SaaS and AI-native companies. A key concept explored is the "anti-portfolio," representing missed investment opportunities like Tesla and Atlassian, which serve as crucial learning tools. Bessemer's investment in Anthropic is highlighted as a strategic bet on foundation models and ethical AI. The podcast also covers Bessemer's innovative "STRIVE" program, which supports CEO well-being through a focus on physical and mental health, demonstrating the ROI of investing in executive health as a competitive advantage. Finally, Dieter offers advice for navigating economic downturns, emphasizing capital management and the rise of lean, high-impact companies.

Outlines

00:00:00
Scaling Globally and CEO Well-being

Deal provides global payroll, hiring, and visa services for scaling companies. CEOs face internal agendas and stress, highlighting the need to step back and manage life's priorities.

00:00:52
Investment Philosophy: Focus on Excellence

Investor Byron Dieter advises focusing on investing in and nurturing already great businesses to achieve excellence, rather than attempting to fix mediocre ones.

00:02:03
From Founder to Investor: The Trigo Technologies Journey

Byron Dieter recounts founding Trigo Technologies in the early days of cloud computing, overcoming skepticism, and achieving a successful sale to IBM, transitioning to a board role and then venture capital.

00:08:35
Key Investor Signals and Communication Strategies

Dieter seeks founders with conviction and coachability, utilizing diverse communication methods for efficient CEO engagement and transparent diligence.

00:17:07
Commercializing Innovation and the Power of Help

The potential of deep science and AI commercialization is discussed, emphasizing that many experts are eager to help when their expertise is valued for impactful ventures.

00:17:56
The Anti-Portfolio and Strategic Investments

Dieter explores his "anti-portfolio" of missed opportunities, learning from them, and discusses Bessemer's strategic investment in Anthropic, viewing foundation models as the future.

00:28:48
Executive Health, Wellness, and Economic Preparedness

Bessemer's STRIVE program supports CEO well-being, recognizing its ROI. Advice is given on capital management and preparing companies for economic downturns, noting the rise of lean, high-impact AI-native companies.

Keywords

Cloud Computing


A model for delivering IT services over the Internet, offering innovation, flexible resources, and economies of scale.

Venture Capital


Investment in startups and small businesses with long-term growth potential, often involving high risk.

AI Transformation


Integrating artificial intelligence into business and society to enhance capabilities, automate processes, and drive innovation.

Founder-Led Growth


A strategy where founders remain deeply involved, leveraging their vision for product development and market strategy.

Anti-Portfolio


A term for missed investment opportunities, used as a learning tool for future investment decisions.

Ethical AI


Developing and deploying AI systems aligned with ethical principles like fairness, accountability, and transparency.

Executive Well-being


Supporting the physical, mental, and emotional health of executives for leadership effectiveness and company success.

Foundation Models


Large-scale AI models serving as a base for specialized AI applications, like those developed by Anthropic.

Trigo Technologies


A cloud computing company founded by Byron Dieter, later sold to IBM.

Bessemer Venture Partners


A venture capital firm known for its focus on product, service, and delivery, and its support programs for CEOs.

Q&A

  • What is Byron Dieter's core investment philosophy?

    Byron Dieter's philosophy is to invest in companies that are already great and help them become excellent, rather than trying to fix mediocre ones. He focuses on backing strong teams with exceptional products and potential for significant growth.

  • How did Trigo Technologies overcome initial skepticism about cloud computing?

    Trigo focused on customer experience and convinced early adopters, like Staples, to publicly endorse their solution. These customer testimonials validated the cloud model and drove wider adoption despite initial technical and business model controversies.

  • What are the key traits Byron Dieter looks for in founders?

    Dieter seeks founders with intense conviction in their vision and a high degree of coachability. They should be able to gather input, make decisive actions, and remain open to feedback and adjustments.

  • What is the significance of Bessemer's "anti-portfolio"?

    The anti-portfolio highlights missed investment opportunities, serving as critical learning tools. It helps Bessemer analyze "crimes of omission" and improve future decisions by understanding what they overlooked.

  • How does Bessemer support the well-being of its portfolio company CEOs?

    Bessemer offers a comprehensive executive health and wellness program focusing on sleep, nutrition, and mental health, applying principles of peak performance from athletes to help CEOs manage stress and enhance their effectiveness.

  • What is the rationale behind investing in Anthropic?

    Bessemer views foundation models as the next wave of hyperscalers. They invested in Anthropic due to its strong enterprise focus, ethical AI commitment, and its ability to attract top AI talent, positioning it as a leader in the field.

  • How does Byron Dieter approach communication with CEOs?

    Dieter uses a variety of communication channels and prioritizes quick, efficient interactions. He balances structured meetings with frequent, interrupt-driven communication, offering timely support and resources.

  • What advice does Dieter give to companies preparing for economic downturns?

    He advises companies to manage capital prudently, raise funds earlier than usual, and maintain a financial buffer to weather economic volatility and uncertainty.

Show Notes

Byron Deeter has spent two decades at the epicenter of tech as an investor with Bessemer Venture Partners. His portfolio includes some of the most innovative companies in the world, from Anthropic to Waymo to Canva. He talks with host Jeff Berman about his advice for both founders and investors in this moment of AI transformation, why CEOs need to think more like athletes, and more.

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Why CEOs need to think more like athletes, with investor Byron Deeter

Why CEOs need to think more like athletes, with investor Byron Deeter