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Why Grief – like Love – is Forever with Marisa Renee Lee

Why Grief – like Love – is Forever with Marisa Renee Lee

Update: 2022-07-057


1. Practical tips for guiding friends and family through your grief–and the permission slips to give yourself.

2. Why there is no such thing as grief etiquette–and how it’s less about what you say and more about what you do.

3. What it finally took for Marisa to surrender to the fact that she was not in control of her love or her grief. 

4. How to integrate love and grief in order to find joy again after loss–and how, 12 years after her mother’s death, Marisa includes her mom in her son’s life.

5. The life-changing perspective shift that Marisa gained from a conversation with Trayvon Martin’s mother Sybrina Fulton.

About Marisa:

Marisa Renee Lee is a called upon grief advocate, entrepreneur, and author of the upcoming book “Grief is Love.”

Deemed “the friend we all wish we had in times of need,” by Elaine Welteroth, Marisa is able to utilize research-based advice and wisdom to help others navigate the complicated and challenging emotions we face when experiencing loss, offering unique insights for women and Black communities.

She is no stranger to grief herself. In 2008, after a lengthy battle, she lost her mother to cancer. Shortly after, she lost her fertility, a pregnancy, and most recently, a cousin to the COVID-19 pandemic. These losses transformed her life and led her to question what healing truly requires outside the limited roadmap often handed to us by societal expectations. In the end, Marisa found that if we can own and honor what we've lost, we can have a beautiful and joyful life amid grief.

In addition to her work in the grief space, Lee is a former appointee in the Obama White House and CEO of Beacon Advisors, a mission-driven consulting firm primarily focused on racial equity. She is a rabble-rouser of social healing: former managing director of My Brother's Keeper Alliance; co-founder of the digital platform Supportal; and founder of The Pink Agenda, a national organization dedicated to raising money for breast cancer care, research, and awareness.

Lee also regularly contributes to Glamour, Vogue, MSNBC, and CNN and serves as an expert for Ritual's wellbeing app. She is a Harvard graduate and an avid home cook. Marisa lives in the Washington DC area with her husband Matt, their newborn son Bennett, and their dog, Sadie.

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Comments (1)

Martha Gruber

Wow! This episode hit home with me. I lost my mother in 2004 and I was the one that got the phone call from her Dr telling me that she had stage IV non-small cell lung cancer. I was the one that had to tell her and my dad. I did the same thing. I stayed up all night "researching" treatments knowing there were none. Grief doesn't go away. I'm still dealing with it. Thank you for this episode!❤️

Jul 14th








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Why Grief – like Love – is Forever with Marisa Renee Lee

Why Grief – like Love – is Forever with Marisa Renee Lee

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