It's been 60 years since Liverpool last had back-to-back 3-0 defeats in the league, and with only three wins in the last 11 games, Arne Slot has got his work cut out. Aside from all the on-pitch factors, there's one thing Liverpool are contending with that can't be underestimated - grief.

Diogo Jota’s tragic death, in a car accident last July, prompted a summer of grief. Just one month later Liverpool started their Premier League campaign.

So, on today's podcast Gabby and Mark are joined by former Liverpool defender Stephen Warnock and sports psychotherapist at Cognacity, Gary Bloom. Has football got any better at talking about grief? What’s the psychology behind grieving in a high-performance sporting environment? Would fans accept this season as a write off? And how do players express what they’re going through without it coming across as an excuse? 

Plus, Gabby and Mark react to England's collapse in the first Ashes Test and England's clean sweep in rugby's Autumn Internationals.

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