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PHLY Philadelphia Eagles PodcastWrapping up free agency week: Eagles tell Rick Lovato it’s more like Rick Likato now
Wrapping up free agency week: Eagles tell Rick Lovato it’s more like Rick Likato now
Update: 2025-03-14
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Say it ain’t so! Howie Roseman is moving on from Rick Lovato, stripping the Eagles of one of the few remaining players to win two Super Bowls … if Brandon Graham retires, we could be down to just Lane Johnson and Jake Elliott. Find out about Charley Hughlett and which other free agents the Eagles should have pursued this week with Fran Duffy, Zach Berman and Bo Wulf.
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Zach Burman on a bit of a solemn day from an Eagles standpoint Zach. Why don't you take away the news?
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Rick Lovato is not returning as the Eagles long snapper the Eagles are making a change at long snapper
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I see your face here. You're you're going with the solemn look
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The Eagles are bringing in Charlie Hewlett from the Chicago. Oh, I'm sorry from the Cleveland Browns
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34 years old veteran long snapper once the highest pay long snapper in the NFL and
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He joins an operation now with Jake Elliott and with Braden man. So
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nine years in Philadelphia for Rick Lovato famously took over for
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He took over full time for John Dormbass in the
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2017 season and he came in in 2016 for the Eagles
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But he he will have to play elsewhere because the Eagles are moving on the Charlie to Charlie Hewlett
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Fran
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I know you're you're doing your best to get through it, but you know, look, this is a
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Business in the NFL two-time Super Bowl champion Rick Lovato. One of the longest 10-year to fill it off the Eagles obviously, but
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Yeah, they move on tough news for me as pointed out the chat tough news for me in flu world order
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Hopefully I can make up for it in other ways. We'll see how the rest of the offseason plays out
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And as you point out the Eagles now if we have Brandon Grimer tires they won't be down to just
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Lane Johnson and Jake Elliott as the two-time Super Bowl champions on the roster
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Zach from a serious standpoint. Yeah, why?
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Yeah, look I could I could try to play my best like sports analyst on on here
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I honestly don't know enough about long snapping to
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Assess how Charlie Hewlett compares to Rick Lovato my guess is
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Tyler Brown the Eagles assistant special teams coach who's very involved in the kicking game, right?
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That's that's kind of his specialty
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Is studying this and and and probably made an assessment that that's my guess
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I know people are saying they were Aaron snaps last year and there were you know there there were some some snaps that that that weren't great, but
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it would be
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It would be me like playing a part if I were to try to tell you what Charlie Hewlett's going to provide that Rick Lovato didn't
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So no, but I
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Yeah, that's that's from a from a long snapping skill standpoint, but I think it is reasonable to say that this fits with what they've been doing
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All offseason. This is a I mean, it is really pinching pennies, but it is trying to get cheaper at the long sniper position
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Now we'll see what I think it's a little bit. Yes. Now. I also don't think that
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Charlie Hewlett isn't necessarily guaranteed to be the long sniper next year
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I wouldn't be surprised if they bring in a rookie to compete at that spot
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Yeah, I mean Rick Lovato was was on um a contract that that was counting less against the cap last year than what they're reportedly paying
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Hewlett compared to or I'm sorry according to Aaron Wilson
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Who had the the numbers
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Lovato was was was on a particular veteran contract Rick Lovato is younger than then just then Charlie Hewlett so I agree
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I don't know if this is financially motivated. I I my guess my understanding is it is financially motivated financially motivated
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Okay, so if that's the case then uh, yeah, I mean
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It's I wish I had more cogent analysis for you here. I don't they're changing long snappers and
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I'll ask around as to why but it's it's the type of thing that it's it's hard for me to assess like like last year
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Lovato had a you know a 1 million dollar cap it I think 1.035 had I think he had you know
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$50,000 signing bonus, you know, one two a 1.2 million dollar base salary
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I don't know the particulars of what he was expecting in this year
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But Charlie Hewlett is older and is not like
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It was also injured last year, but only five years. Yeah, so
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Yeah, I look it's it's I I wish I was also coming on here but better analysis
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I don't want to fake it. I don't know enough about long snapping to tell you why they made this move
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Fran, do you have any favorite Rick Lovato memories?
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Um, the snap is not on the the the field goal
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Roll 52 all of that
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No, I mean, yeah, I like Zach. I for all the other people that the Eagles have bought in
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This this spring so far this week. I've been able to read my college notes
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I can't pretend that I have long snapper scouting reports on Charlie Hewlett coming out of school. So
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Like Zach, you're just gonna have to just go off of what they tell us and go from there
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I like you though. I would I would be shocked if they didn't bring in a rookie
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We're in the next uh the next couple of months
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Zach, how do you feel about the uh wide spread complaints in the chat that we did not do an emergency podcast for the signing?
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Uh, perhaps we should have um, I feel like I'd be cheating the audience though because I I usually try to come like prepared with more intel and more information
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I was preparing for the show in other ways, but I I don't have much on
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On the long snapping situation. I'll say they want a personal level, right?
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I've been around Rick now going back to 2017. I
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I respect his story. I respect his commitment to his craft a nice guy, uh, you know
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Him and his wife. I'm sure a lot
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To have a baby recently and uh
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Yeah, I mean, I wish him the best in his career and he has something like
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Look, we're not best friends with these guys, but you do get to know someone especially when you're
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When he's on the team since 2016 2017, so um, yeah, I mean, he's he's someone I always enjoy speaking to and I got to know like a record photo
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I'll miss a Rick Lovato. Yeah, Rick Lovato was the Eagles long snapper
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There you go. All right, uh
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Big picture zoom out
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We talked a little bit yesterday, but uh after the week the Eagles have had Zach
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Let's start with you
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How differently do you feel than a week ago about like what to expect from the Eagles in 2025?
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Not one bit different
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Um, there has been
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Nothing that has occurred this week
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that has
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Surprised me other than the trade of cj gardener johnson. I I I did think there was going to be a decision made with the contract
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Um, I thought they would keep him. I didn't think they were going to trade him
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But other than the trading of cj gardener johnson uh, I expect them to lose the guys they've lost
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Uh, I didn't expect them to be major players in the three agent market and you expect you but you didn't expect them to be this
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Minor players
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Like no, I expect them to sign one first one player based on the sign bargain guys. That's this is that's the
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That's the I now I I thought maybe it would happen during the negotiation period as opposed to after them
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Than the negotiation period, but but these were the waters that I expected them to swim in
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Or you expected them to sign a player of significance who had been released with I mean
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oh
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We didn't expect them to be this miserly
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Well, look, I mean, I didn't think some of the contracts would be at at the numbers that they were too, right?
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Like and we'll get into some contracts that I think they could have signed
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But the players were really like like dream on jones got 10 million dollars a year
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I didn't think the Eagles were going to pay him 10 million dollars a year
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I feel like that's not what you said last week, but that's okay. That's
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I think the good thing is all these things are recorded um, yeah, I yeah
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We did a whole quacketology of guys that we had like Khalil Mac and dream on jones and harrowed landry like
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Yeah, I didn't think that that dream on jones was going to be at at that price
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I thought like a sub 10 million dollar cap it would be the uh
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Yeah, well, it would be the waters they'd be swimming it so
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And my like are are we doing two different shows here? This is this is kind of what I expected
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I think there's a bit of a difference between not being major players and not signing anybody for more than two million dollars
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Uh, I don't think I don't think we were telling people that it was going to be quite this
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Uh, any pinching
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um
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Yeah, look, I mean I I would be surprised if I think we laid it out
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Mostly correct that they were going to they were going to play the compet game
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They're going to let the big guys leave. Yeah, they were not going to be major players
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But we didn't expect them that we didn't expect it was going to be such a cash crunch until word came out about that
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On sunday and monday and then the cj garner johnson trade happens. We thought they were going to maybe add
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one player like of of significance
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They haven't had a single player who's definitely going to make the roster next year
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I think josh you say what we'll be on the team at this point um
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But no, I I hear your point. I hear your point. I you also think that it's
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It was friday of the first week of free agency sure there's a lot of way to go
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They still have have have money in there the original question is like do you feel differently about this team and the answer is
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Absolutely not like I I feel like the way I thought about the team going in the free agency
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I feel about them now. I thought they were going to turn in over. I thought they were going to turn to younger players
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I thought they were going to try to safeguard some of those spots
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Yeah, I think they are I think there are questions on the defensive line in the past rush
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Um, you know friends documented well what this draft presents and I think it'll be major players in the drafts
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At that spot but I would feel differently about the team if this is the
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roster they go into training camp with I just think there this is
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There's been nothing here. That's like
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I'm like wow other than the cj garner johnson move did surprise the trade surprised me
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But I did think there was going to be something done with cj garner johnson's contract
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Uh friend before we get to your thoughts on that somebody mentioned in the chat and a good time to bring it up a great opportunity for the die hearts
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For some film breakdowns with the duffman. We'll look at some of the players the egos have added in free agency
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Maybe uh dip our toes into some drafts up as well
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Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun
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You know this is something we've talked about doing for the last few months and so we'll do one
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Just post-free agency and you know maybe we'll do a little bit less uh
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Adore Jackson and Josh Uche film and maybe we're diving into a little bit more Q&A with the draft
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But regardless we're going to be getting into
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Some film of the egos and we'll we'll talk through some things here in march in a couple weeks
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And then we'll have another one after the draft and that one obviously will be focused solely on the egos draft selections
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After the draft so it'll be a lot of fun
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That will be May 6th. Yeah, go ahead and there's a philanthropic component to this as as well correct
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Yes, so it'll be uh, so the part of the donations will go to the Huntington's disease
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Organization for America which you know Huntington's disease is something that's close to me and my family. So
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Yeah, no, I appreciate bringing that up
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And as Vince will be at food dinner will be provided as well. So it's it's I think I believe $24 of your diehard
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Because you got obviously you get some money off your diehard. So you come you have some dinner
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Get to eat you get to eat that tape baby. You mush that that boy
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So guys like we'll do so we'll do some guys
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We'll do some guys together. Yes everybody can have their own their own culture. Go ahead
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Just for the purpose of accuracy
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Fran and Bo will be doing the guys for this one. Um, I
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I'm gonna be out of town that week. I'm sorry. I'm gonna be missing it. I will be at the Mason
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That's right. You can zoom in if you want to watch
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Yeah, that would be great happy great
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Fran, how do you feel? Do you feel any differently about the eagles in 2025 than you did a week ago?
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No, uh, I think look at the end of the day
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You know, I was listening to a podcast. I'm trying to remember which one it was for they were talking about you know
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The chiefs and free agency they lose a bunch of guys and it's like oh the other day. It's still patch up our homes
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You still have you know, it's Andy Reed right now. I kind of feel that way about the eagles at the end of the day
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Yes, you lose CJ Gardner Johnson
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You lose Milton Williams lose Josh Schwett
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But uh, you're putting your faith in the young talent defensively along with Vick Fangio
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You bring back Zach Bond and the impact that he had and then offensively
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The core still comes back with Jalen Hertz Sequan Barkley that offensive line a J brown Devonte Smith
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You know, and then you get whatever you add in via the draft and some of the additions there
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I think you're just putting your faith in a lot of the the core that is still here. So I to me
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I'm not anticipating like a huge drop off. I was anticipating that look
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This defense was number one uh this year and a bit number of categories
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It was unlikely that they were going to be number one again anyway even if they brought everybody back
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And so I think when you factor in the fact that yeah, they're they're losing some players
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But uh, you're going to count on some of these young guys to step up
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Who knows you know some of these darks that they're throwing in free agency maybe one of them hits
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You get some unexpected value that way uh, you add in the draft picks and on you go
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And we will talk in a little bit about some of the players who we think maybe they they could have gone after at their relative
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Price points. I feel I do feel a little bit differently than I did a week ago
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I think I have some I mean listen. I know that um
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I know that we are just beginning the offseason process you know, and and they're gonna maybe trade for guys
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And they're gonna do stuff uh before the season
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But I think my I think there are reasons to be
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not worried, but
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Unsure about what the backs up is going to look like um, you know you you have right now
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Keeley ringo city brown and Jeremiah charter jr penciled into starting spots those guys will all not be starting week one
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but the the departure of cj gardener johnson and the
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lack of
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Transaction on any of those spots so far in a meaningful way. I think is is enough to
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Make you curious. I'm not I'm not saying like I don't think they're going to be a bad team or anything
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I think they're still going to be you know the division of favorites, but I think I think
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If you were expecting a regular regression on defense next year
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That's one thing. I think you could be a little bit wary about what the back seven is going to look like right now
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Yeah
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I think they you know the last year we would have said like hey like they're gonna have rookies starting in the secondary and zack ball
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Of course, you know, so I feel like it's the the typical questions that we would ask
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I think I'm still I would still have those regardless and then it's just now it's just just new names
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That we'll just have to see how they fit
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Yeah, safety's the one that that really jumps out to me, Bo. So if yeah, I I suppose as I ponder that that that question
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I feel less
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Confident in legal safety situation and that's important in this defense we'll talk about that going into
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Free agency a year ago and that's not to say the city brown can't do it, but I do think that they need
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um
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The safeguard that spot. I think they you know cj gardener johnson. I'm not buying into this narrative that
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That there was like a problem with him on the field. I understand he he he even if he had certain
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Liabilities he also was elite at taking away the ball
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He had six interceptions in 2000 and in 22 it's six interceptions in 2024 the year he wasn't there the eagle struggled at safety
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Like we can talk about the business side of football and that's totally fine
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But and that's totally understandable
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But I am not participating in any spin of like cj gardener johnson as a football player because I think cj gardener johnson
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um
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Help the team more than they hurt the team
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Who's digging what who's digging
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Say that's yeah, that's me. Sorry. Yeah, you're blowing up
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Um, it's you
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Respect boy. Oh
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That's it. I had one thing on there, but yeah, respectfully. I don't have my note and I don't have my dings on
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It's not my phone. It's my it's my computer
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Okay, we're hearing what what those dings are is shadow to merissa done who was for the I believe second day and around telling us
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That uh they love the new Eagles edition big big gig
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Charlie Hewlett fans in the done household
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Yeah, so I'm trying because I'll look at my settings and
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Tell it not to notify me about my best here. Don't I'll take off play sound effects, okay
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So I will not know if I text arrives during the
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What you'll see you'll still see the thing come on. It was it was you texting you're saying who's digging and it was from
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Wolf it says iktr. Okay
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That was
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You can't it's not my fault that you're digging
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No, I gotta explain it, but you're like who's who's digging you and I'm like you are
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You heard the one no I said who's digging you mean who's where's the noise coming from
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Well ignore the fact that two of the three of us are on a on a text. Uh, I'll have to sit in here
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Yes, I
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I can empathize with that for sure
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sure
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I would say a very nice email from someone who had my back on the um
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on the uh
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The baby conversation from over this week
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because they're like
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Baby count
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Yeah, on a plane. I can't believe you're bringing this back up
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All right, yeah, let's let's let's proceed. Let's proceed. Wait, what did the person say?
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um
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The person said that like it was like a real like human
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um
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Inmission that that like you can understand things more when you have kids like and that it that there's there's just more
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understanding of of that situation he's like most people are that way like when you have kids
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You can you you can understand what it's like much better than when you don't have kids
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Which is precisely what I was saying
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Yeah, I think that I think that applies to a lot of things. I would I I wouldn't put it on that one
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But that's okay. All right fair enough
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That's right
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I'm not banging on you here and I disagree with that one. That's all okay
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Goddard's a guy who
00:23:56
You know the Chris Bauer has been on on record saying like they kind of need to address tight end right and and it's it's
00:24:04
Obsession that they've either missed on picks or haven't really gone out and signed. There's the chain stiking connection
00:24:10
But yeah, this was um speculated to me by someone in the league when I said where could he go like who's going to pay him
00:24:17
And the teams that were given to me were Denver and Indianapolis
00:24:21
Going into free agency Denver obviously paid money for Evan Ingram didn't give up a pick. I would watch out for Indianapolis as a potential team
00:24:28
For for whatever it's worth. I actually had heard
00:24:32
Keep an eye on the colts as well from not someone not someone not in Philly
00:24:37
Someone different I mean I'm 99.9% sure someone different than who Zach had heard from
00:24:41
Interesting
00:24:43
What where are you at turkeys wise Zach on on the likelihood that Dallas Goddard's going to be an eagle next year
00:24:49
Uh, let's go with 12
00:24:53
Wow 88 turkeys he's not back 12 he is back really that you're that
00:24:58
Uh, I'm surprised by that yeah, I'm surprised by that too and I reserve the right to amend it
00:25:05
With as I get more information, but I have any I haven't had anyone tell me like
00:25:10
This is this is working toward a resolution. It's it's it's more like
00:25:15
Yeah, you know Goddard's available Goddard's available and and so typically it reminds me last year by the way of his of his son reddick when
00:25:24
I kept saying like
00:25:26
He's just keep reddick like there a better football team with reddick on it than without him and it was just if you just kept hearing like
00:25:33
Hey reddick's available and it probably won't cost as much you think it's going to cost right um and so
00:25:38
That was kind of the whole month of March and then uh
00:25:42
There was actually a date there that was important. It was April when he had a bonus
00:25:46
In Goddard's case the dates probably the date might be June because you can you know spread the cap hit
00:25:53
Between this year and next year
00:25:55
but we've talked all week about cash first cap and
00:26:00
I think this is a situation where you're saving $14 million of cash by trading Dallas Goddard right you're you're not paying him his contract next year
00:26:09
He's it it's not guaranteed so it's a way for them to move on from it and you take the absorb the cap hit
00:26:15
But we've talked so much about cash this week and I think that that is that is a lot of cash
00:26:20
And it's not it's not quite this easy, but I think one way to to think about it
00:26:25
To sort of make it easier is that this year's cash is next year's cap
00:26:29
Right um and so it's like you're you're you're not saving cap room now
00:26:33
But you're saving the cash for Jeffrey Larry and you're also saving some cap room next year that's it's not it's not always that easy
00:26:40
But it's one way to think about it um I still like it
00:26:44
I believe that the Eagles are putting it out there that they're ready to move on from Dallas Goddard
00:26:50
And I don't think they're entirely bluffing
00:26:52
But I do think there is maybe a resolution where they're putting this out there
00:26:57
So that Dallas Goddard's camp knows that they're willing to do it
00:27:00
And then they could maybe come to come to some kind of agreement
00:27:04
I mean, I 88 is high man. I chose 88 because that was his number honestly. I was going with like like Tio
00:27:12
Yeah, like Tio saying is 81% ready for the Super Bowl
00:27:16
um
00:27:17
But yeah, I mean I hear you and I still think that's the best resolution is a josh sweat situation from last year
00:27:25
Well, we're a dirty slay situation from from two years ago. Well slay
00:27:29
I think had a bigger offer, but in sweats case, it's like hey
00:27:31
Hey, go see if someone's willing to pay you what you want and when no one's willing to pay you what you want come back here at this number and we'll guarantee it
00:27:38
But yeah, I just haven't heard that this week
00:27:41
Friend, we don't have anybody better in the world to ask this question to then you
00:27:46
If the Eagles are moving on from Dallas Goddard
00:27:49
How how
00:27:52
Sure, can they be how confident can they be that they're going to find a starting caliber tight end in the draft
00:27:57
I mean there are plenty of starting caliber tight ends in the draft
00:28:03
It just now becomes how much do you want to try and manipulate the draft board to make sure that you get the guy that you like right because
00:28:09
Most mock drafts have the top two players Tyler Warren from Penn State, Colston Loven from Michigan going in the top
00:28:16
We'll say 23 to 25
00:28:18
Um, you know, that would be that would mean
00:28:20
likely a trade-up for the Eagles if not then like the Goddard situation in
00:28:26
In 2018 you would need to have you know facilitate some kind of a short trade-back and then that's when you're in like Elijah
00:28:33
Royal territory
00:28:34
You know middle of a second round. It seems to be that's where most people feel he's going to go
00:28:38
So I think at the end of the day, you know, you know how how he plays the draft board
00:28:43
You know the Mason Taylor from LSU is another player that that is talked about in that way
00:28:47
So, uh, yeah, there are going to be options. Um, you know, Scott leftler uh, then Eagles new quarterback's coach
00:28:53
Came from bowling green their top their top tight end
00:28:56
Harold fan and junior he is also in this draft class and a likely day two pick
00:29:00
So I think when you're looking at the options, there are going to be guys available
00:29:04
So it's just going to it's going to come down to how do they feel about and that's why I felt initially that a move wouldn't be made with Dallas
00:29:10
Until we got to the draft just because then that way you would ascertain, you know, the type of player that you were able to get
00:29:17
But I mean, I'm with ZB. It definitely seems like it's leaning more towards. He's not here uh, then then then he's coming back and Eagles green
00:29:24
That also works both ways the waiting till the draft because it's not just the Eagles know it's also
00:29:29
The teams who might be interested know whether they get a tight end or not
00:29:33
And so maybe that maybe given the fact that everybody is expecting this to be such a good tight end class
00:29:39
Maybe that's maybe that's the resolution we get this on on draft weekend
00:29:44
Yeah, and and the other point there too is like the Eagles
00:29:47
Probably won't be on the field until after like, you know, the offseason workout begins in in in mid-April
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But they're actually not on the field together until after after the draft so um if they make a trade after the draft
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00:31:02
Super chat from cloud says what do you think the hold up is on a z's ojolari 24 years old 22 sacks of four years
00:31:09
Injury history, but you'd think someone would have picked him up. What's going on there's that any ideas?
00:31:14
Well, this is a classic case. It's a generic answer
00:31:17
But you can say it every year when there's a good preage in lingering is that the value for himself is different than
00:31:23
value that the league hasn't met right
00:31:25
and
00:31:27
It's why you know when when contract offers come quickly players take those offers a
00:31:33
Lot of people don't have the luxury of being Aaron Rogers and kind of like to bragging on the process, right?
00:31:39
So my my guess is
00:31:41
Ozeez ojolari has a number in mind that teams aren't looking to hit right now
00:31:45
Dinkle bird with a super chance as I expected the Eagles to mostly sign players to compete for starting jobs or even roster spots
00:31:53
But I thought they'd make a little splash or two
00:31:55
They're interested Justin Reed indicates they're open to it
00:31:59
And if you didn't see this Justin Reed who signed with the Saints also said at his introductory press conference in addition to the reporting that was done
00:32:05
That the Eagles were one of the teams who he was considering signing with which I do find interesting sec
00:32:10
I found that very interesting and again, I don't know what the number is, but um
00:32:15
Yeah, I mean that that shows you that
00:32:19
They'll spend on a player that really interested
00:32:23
Now there's been a lot of messaging especially like the national media about the amount of draft picks that the Eagles have during these next two years, right?
00:32:32
And those draft picks include four compensatory picks expected
00:32:37
So
00:32:40
You know if you're counting for 20 picks that there's four compensatory picks expected in there, right?
00:32:45
So that that would lead me to believe that they're they are playing the compick game
00:32:51
Uh, especially this year
00:32:54
I'm finally fresh prince with a super chat says I can't believe Zach Redboe's iKTR text message on air was that on the record Bo
00:33:01
Uh
00:33:04
Of course, not I will be I will be filing suit
00:33:06
Again, second of course, of course, that's okay
00:33:09
I think I think if I would have done the same thing
00:33:11
It would have been on it would have been kosher as well
00:33:15
KTR uh
00:33:17
Mr. Hampton is uh in that last segment during that last segment. What I missed a handful of text during that last segment because I don't have the things up
00:33:25
Yeah, I mean I
00:33:29
You're in the middle of a show you can't have the things going I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it
00:33:38
Okay, you want to read those texts on there? Definitely not
00:33:42
Definitely not all right friend. We uh we have surveyed the contracts that have been signed this week. We've all got
00:33:49
Three or four that we think would have potentially made sense for the Eagles if knowing now in retrospect the kinds of
00:33:58
ponds they're fishing in who was the first one who who comes to mind for you
00:34:02
Yeah, I mean the first one honestly uh is a familiar face and that is the the contract for Isaiah Rogers go into
00:34:09
Sort of Vikings um two two for 11 million dollars. Obviously. This is not something that would have impacted
00:34:14
The the compact formula. It's
00:34:18
Middle of the road cut. It's in that that four million dollar bucket two for 11
00:34:22
So it's a it's five and a half and when I look at who are some of the other corners uh that are making that
00:34:26
I think that that's that's right in line with how I kind of view Isaiah Rogers um, you know, and there's there's honestly
00:34:33
There's a lot of players in that bracket that I would say like yeah like that's a that's a superior player and so
00:34:37
When I look at what he got I was a little surprised that the Eagles weren't in on that uh
00:34:42
That was one that that I looked at and said I would have thought at that number at that price point
00:34:46
He would have come back to with an opportunity to compete for a starting role
00:34:49
I'm with you uh
00:34:52
That was on my list as well and you just think about
00:34:55
Like the the right level of player to have as a competitor for Keeley Ringo
00:35:01
It's it's the perfect level of competition. Hey Keeley you you just couldn't quite beat him out last year. Can you beat him out this year?
00:35:07
And if not you're getting the reliability uh that he gave you this year and like the known
00:35:13
Quantity the known commodity because it was in this defense
00:35:16
I do I think it is I think it is reasonable to be a little bit surprised that they didn't they didn't go after that one
00:35:21
And we will see what they do at that corner elsewhere, but you know no disrespect to Adore Jackson
00:35:27
I would be I would be disappointed as an Eagles fan if that was all they did at that position
00:35:33
Yeah, I look at this as I'm not surprised when it's at that number
00:35:37
I would have kept I'll say it rogers
00:35:38
I did not think I say rogers was getting eight million guaranteed good for as a rogers credit to him
00:35:44
If you're paying someone eight million guaranteed my guess is you're expecting him to be the starting corner
00:35:49
Right, and so you're saying you can still have this earners competition. I think rogers would would be in the
00:35:55
Heavy favorite if they're guaranteeing him eight million dollars next season basically
00:36:00
It I don't think they want to block Keelie Ringo. So yeah, I know once you're on the field the contract doesn't matter
00:36:07
but from the the way
00:36:09
That you kind of navigate in March is that if you're guaranteeing a corner eight million dollars
00:36:15
You're probably expecting him to be one of your top three corners
00:36:17
Yeah, I think you could also if you were trying to rationalize it you say well he's making eight million dollars
00:36:23
But our entire cornerback room is making 11 million dollars right or you know or whatever that number is and it's and it's reasonable there
00:36:30
Um, and you know what I do like
00:36:32
You need you need four corners, right? You can't rely on all three guys to stay healthy
00:36:36
So they are gonna have to bring in some some fortification at some point who's the first one?
00:36:41
And to your pump up, right um, they pay James robbery a lot more money than that last year not to play football right so
00:36:47
You can't always look at it just in terms of the money equals the role
00:36:51
Um, I have three other places you could have saved cash, but anyway good
00:36:57
I have I have three players on my list, but I'll stay with the Roger steam of a player
00:37:02
I want to do one at a time yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying
00:37:04
So staying on the Roger steam of an internal player who they would they let leave
00:37:09
Um, I'm going with Orin Berks
00:37:11
Because that contract I found to be like he received 750,000 dollars guaranteed
00:37:17
Um, which is yeah, they're paying Josh Uche you know more than that guaranteed
00:37:23
Um, Orin Berks, I know he's he's 30 years old
00:37:27
Um, you don't necessarily want to block Jeremiah Trot Jr
00:37:31
Like even if he doesn't block Jeremiah Trot Jr
00:37:33
I think like worst case scenario he's a he's a special teams player for you
00:37:37
Uh, he is someone who uh, you saw can step in
00:37:42
In in spot starting duty if Trotters not the player that they hope he is next year
00:37:48
Uh, I just think like at that salary
00:37:53
It it just made you know, I yeah, you know, I I know it's a two-year five-million-dollar contract
00:38:00
But I think it's it's 750,000 guaranteed right so you're not
00:38:03
Um, yeah, that's that's that's surprised me
00:38:06
I agree with you um, I am I am surprised especially since I don't like the linebacker market has really thinned out
00:38:16
So it's not like they're going to sign somebody else at that level
00:38:19
Um, given how well and uh, Capably he filled in
00:38:23
Fornicobidate, I am a little bit surprised that they didn't they didn't go for that one
00:38:26
It might be termed there, right? They might have wanted to stick to one-year deals
00:38:31
And even though you can get out of a deal after one year he might have wanted to arm on the deal, right?
00:38:36
So you're kind of comparing apples to apples and the negotiation process
00:38:39
Uh, the Eagles haven't gone beyond one year yet this all season
00:38:42
Uh, but that that's that's that's one I would have done
00:38:47
Fair enough uh, all right. I'll give you my first one. This will not be a a major surprise
00:38:52
uh
00:38:54
Joe trion
00:38:55
Joe trion shionka one year
00:38:57
Four and a half million dollars with the cleven browns which is more than they haven't spent on anybody
00:39:02
But the 26 year old who has some pastbrushed upside and and gives you the uh the coverage flexibility
00:39:09
I am just up
00:39:11
I understand that josh uche is an opportunity to buy low
00:39:16
And if you think about what he would have gone for last year and by the way, you know
00:39:19
There was that very funny thing last year where all the reports were that he gave up like 10 million dollars to stay with the
00:39:25
Patriots. I I don't think that that's true um, but I I think it's a it's a better chance to get an ascending player
00:39:32
For a a not crazy amount of money. That's my guy on the edge
00:39:36
Yeah, I think when you and he also fits you know that the round one pedigree right like there were definitely there that would have made sense
00:39:45
Um it just out obviously the price point a little bit different
00:39:48
Then what they give but you're you're paying for that and I mean what who is a better player?
00:39:53
I mean try Joe trion is not a uh, you know
00:39:55
He would have cashed out if he was a better player, but I think he's he definitely offers more upside than
00:40:00
Then what you're getting with uche
00:40:02
It makes me think that the theory you guys had yesterday on uche might be
00:40:07
There might be some validity to that that the versatility that he provides maybe in a stand-up role or playing off the ball
00:40:14
Could be something that that intrigues them because I agree like in a vacuum
00:40:18
I would much rather Joe trion even at that that salary
00:40:21
Then even the extra two million dollars that you're spending to me is worth it there but agreed
00:40:27
Maybe it's it just makes you a little bit crunched enough that it bothers them and if you think about complex by the way
00:40:36
Because there's some of there might be someone in the chat saying that once as they arrived or signed for what he did
00:40:41
If you're operating under the assumption that macaque Bechton's leaving and it's going to get paid like the compic number
00:40:46
Then you can sign one guy who cancels out as a rogers and you still end up with four compics
00:40:50
right
00:40:52
Or I think that's the fourth oh, oh that's the thing you didn't prefer because you got Milton and Joshua Bechton and rogers
00:40:59
Okay, fair enough. Yes, now somebody was asking about this I think in one of the comments. It is it is net
00:41:05
Signings who qualify for the compic, but it is only up like you only qualify for the compic formula
00:41:10
If you are above a certain level which projections expect to be about five billion dollars
00:41:15
So anybody you sign for cheaper than that is is not going to qualify
00:41:18
Some super chats Medeo said we have we have eagles news
00:41:22
We do we do per Diana Rossini
00:41:25
The eagles are signing kick return punt return avery Williams to a one-year deal per source three minutes ago from Diana Rossini
00:41:33
Missed I didn't have my you know, I didn't have my thing up. I didn't have my things on every Williams
00:41:38
Every Williams a who is I don't know anything about him. He's he's a running back from the Falcons
00:41:44
He was a fifth-round pick in 2021
00:41:47
mainly known as a return guy in the NFL
00:41:51
I think this means the end of Britain Covey
00:41:55
Yeah, could be another one that hurts my flew world order
00:42:02
I'll say um
00:42:04
Yeah, he I know he got hurt a couple years ago, but real quickly. I mean he entered the league as a corner
00:42:09
And he doesn't play the regular season games since 2022
00:42:13
Right. No, he played last year with the Falcons
00:42:16
Oh, he did he hasn't played on offense since
00:42:20
Yeah, no last year he he had let's see he had 20 or he had 20 returns on on puns for
00:42:30
185 yards. That's a 9.3 average
00:42:33
So I had a great 15 take returns for 408 yards
00:42:38
Okay, yeah, I've read him a reporter coming out of Boise. I mean 58 187 here on four four flat at the combine had a four second flat short shuttle
00:42:46
Outstanding times across the board there
00:42:48
The top end speed showed up and he was always around the football great pound returner and also not even just return man
00:42:54
But also a bunch of a bunch of block kicks as well
00:42:59
So this is a guy yeah, he blocked three puns one field goal and one extra point
00:43:03
Had a forced fumble on kickoff coverage. So this was a guy that was very much present on special teams
00:43:09
I actually thought that he wasn't I don't think it was a bad corner prospect
00:43:13
So I was interested I was the surprise that he got moved promptly to the offensive side of the ball
00:43:18
But there you go a guy that could be a core special teams type of player
00:43:22
Also something to keep in mind to at nine one ninety five
00:43:27
At the owner's meetings in in three weeks from now
00:43:31
the league is going to vote on kickoffs and
00:43:34
The touchback could be moved to the 35 which
00:43:38
Could make kickoff returns even more valuable next year in that case
00:43:42
Because teams might try to have you so so one thing you've been hearing is that teams might place more of a premium on kickoff returners
00:43:50
this offseason
00:43:52
I know I know I'm not the first person to say this but I do not understand
00:43:56
Why they would move the the the touchback up and not just move the kick further back
00:44:01
That's a good point. I think because I I think they're trying to incentivize teams to drop the kick in the landing zone
00:44:10
Right as opposed to just kicking it out the end zone
00:44:13
I think even if you push it back
00:44:15
Teams the kickers can still kick it out of the end zone the the goal is like to make the kickoff a play
00:44:21
And so they have the kicker or the punner put it in the landing zone
00:44:26
To be hilarious like to see how far back it could move it before we would be happy like they're moving it from to the 20 yard line
00:44:32
Uh, just say can you reach the end zone ready yards away
00:44:34
Uh ran a 4 4 3 at his pro day
00:44:39
Every Williams there you go now not to be not to be confused zack with the former Duke point card
00:44:46
William Avery yes
00:44:52
Not that I was not confusing in wood William at wood with William Avery do you know where where William Avery went to high school
00:44:58
Uh, Deering
00:45:01
No, it's okay Academy
00:45:03
It made it memory serves
00:45:05
Okay, all right, let's think what we'll go ahead for a friend
00:45:10
We want to know uh an Eagles link for Avery Williams for me the first person that ever put him on my radar
00:45:15
At the 2018 Combine
00:45:18
former Eagles wide receive our future Eagles wide receiver uh key Sean Johnson really
00:45:23
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00:45:28
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00:45:30
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All right, some super chats Medio says are there any virtual seats for the friend of your film review?
00:48:09
I could donate 75 dollars and live in Washington state
00:48:13
It's a good question. You'll have to take it up with Vince. Yeah, Vince's watching. Yeah, Vince be the guy for that
00:48:19
Speaking of Vince. He has a super chat of his own. He says would you bring back James Bradbury at the veteran minimum
00:48:26
Leadership safety veteran leadership or is his time here done Zach. I think James is ready to move on
00:48:31
Yeah, I think James
00:48:34
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Yeah, who's next on your list friend
00:51:03
Um, all right, so I have two DBs left
00:51:07
I'll go with the one that I think would probably that I was probably more surprised by and that's a direct forest
00:51:14
This is formerly of the Washington commanders. He went for 1.3 million, which obviously is not much at all
00:51:20
With the Buffalo bills um, and the reason I say that look farce came into the league out of Cincinnati
00:51:25
and he was able to find some early success playing for Ron Rivera and the Washington commanders
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Then the new scheme comes in the new coaching staff comes in and he goes from being a starter to being a
00:51:37
A backup and so obviously he's looking for more opportunity
00:51:41
That would be a swing that'd be willing to take just because he I mean he had some really productive stretches there as a starter for Washington
00:51:48
So at that price point I was surprised that he didn't get a little bit more um that at 1.3 million. I would have sniffed around at that
00:51:55
No, that's that sorry. Oh, sorry
00:52:01
Yeah, sorry about that um, yeah, Derek forest isn't is is an interesting one too
00:52:06
He was on my list of other considerations, but um, yeah, I thought I thought he was decent with the commanders and I I was surprised um
00:52:18
That that's not a market that they swam in considering they need a safety
00:52:22
My safety. I'll give you was was Jalen Hawkins with the New England Patriots um, who signed for one for just over two million dollars not all of it guaranteed
00:52:32
Um another young player who had kicked around the league a little bit, but gave them good third safety snaps this year
00:52:40
And is a good special teams player
00:52:43
This is not uh one where I'm going to I'm going to do the sack pound the table for him, but a young player who has a chance to ascend and gives you a baseline of of playable competence at the position
00:52:53
That's a good one there um mine is a safety cornerback hybrid you can even say safety cornerback hybrid
00:53:02
I'm sorry safety cornerback linebacker hybrid, right? I mean
00:53:05
A friend of the uh favorite come out of the draft if it is this guy is is um positionless in a positive way uh
00:53:12
We'll go we'll change from positionless to multi-positional um, but that is
00:53:16
If he it is it's it's it's no fun will if he had to more fun will um if I if I two millifon rule if I two millifon
00:53:25
Yes, he's all my he was third on my list as well
00:53:27
Yeah, he's someone who uh
00:53:29
Who I kind of earmarked going in their free agency is someone's gonna get a steal with him because
00:53:35
I picked a bad year to get hurt although he's he's been hurt most of his and if they'll queer it seems
00:53:38
But last year going in to free agency when the lion's trade is cj-garner johnson one of the things you you heard is like
00:53:45
They they want to get millifon you on on the on the on the oh I'm sorry not traded as cj-garner johnson
00:53:50
Let cj-garner johnson go is that millifon rule was gonna play more, right?
00:53:54
Um, they used him in a variety of roles. He was a third around pick out of Syracuse
00:53:58
He was a corner at Syracuse and a good corner at Syracuse like six three long runs decently
00:54:03
The lions have moved him to safety, but they've used him in kind of this like joker role
00:54:07
And I think given that the eagles have multiple needs
00:54:10
And just given the athletic skill set
00:54:13
Uh, he signed a one-year four-million-dollar contract with the Miami dolphins
00:54:18
That's a player at that price point. I definitely would have pursued
00:54:21
It's a good one and yeah, the the flexibility there is nice because it allows you to to backfill based on however the draft comes
00:54:29
It's then that's a good one
00:54:31
All right, it was your last one friend. Yeah, well, it was millifon rule
00:54:34
And so yeah, I agree with a lot of what zack said obviously he went for a little bit more than
00:54:39
Then what we bought it with farce he went for three million
00:54:42
But uh, he is one that I would say is when I was looking at some of the one-year deal some of the lower-level contracts
00:54:49
Of guys, I felt like oh, yeah like this guy you could get a lot of value here
00:54:53
For one year, uh, millifon was the name that kind of stuck out like a like a story about sore thumb for me
00:54:59
I evaluated him as a corner and I was pretty high on him as a corner when he was coming out
00:55:03
And I know he's kind of morphed into this this specialty match-up player as a safety
00:55:07
But you know the the injuries have kind of taken their toll. We'll see we'll see what he can do this here in Miami
00:55:13
I don't know what in the world is going on with the the Levi on Woozerike contract one-year four-million dollars
00:55:19
I'm staying away from that one because there's like there must be something else going on there
00:55:22
Um, it's very odd
00:55:25
The only one the other one I was going to mention is this was this is a higher price point
00:55:29
And I think we have learned the Eagles were probably not waiting in these waters, but from the
00:55:33
buying a guy a year after and a chance to
00:55:38
Potentially cash in on the surplus value the Malcolm Coon steel of of just one year for 12 million dollars to me would have fit
00:55:46
Both the short term need
00:55:49
The potential upside and and the price is not too exorbitant that I think um
00:55:55
If they were in a slightly different situation that is one that they might have been interested in
00:55:58
That's a good one there too. You're looking at the edge rushing need
00:56:02
Yeah, I wonder if they were worried at all about the edge rusher market after
00:56:06
paying Bryce Huff last year
00:56:09
You know, I I wonder if if I mean I don't want to say it's like safety a few years ago
00:56:14
But if they're kind of like resetting their internal evaluations and with
00:56:20
You know with the fangio and like all right. What is it that we're looking for from a free agent and and what are we going to pay for?
00:56:27
I'm curious if there's no one of that
00:56:29
It's also interesting because the the Bryce Huff situation is is is odd because
00:56:35
You would think
00:56:37
That defensive line in particular is the easiest position to project from one team to another, right?
00:56:43
Like how is this guy going to fit in our scheme and our culture all of those things are difficult
00:56:48
But it's the one position where there is there is probably less of that I think probably than anywhere else
00:56:55
That's the point now
00:56:58
Yeah, edge rusher because of like what you know
00:57:01
How he expects his guys to drop
00:57:04
Although that can't be a factor real you know like if you can get to the quarterback and get the quarterback
00:57:09
But you're rushing from different alignments too. So that's something to keep in mind
00:57:13
You know, I do think
00:57:17
Or something I was about to say that
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All right, it will it'll trace back in a bit. Oh good
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Some super chats
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Mark's just shouting us out with the love those freebies Vince says we are working on making the film session available as a diehard only video
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So there you go more back for the buck for the diehards now Andrew this is going to be a question for Vince who says
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How many diehard deals do you guys need to promote before the rest of us long time full price loyalists start to feel dumb?
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Here's some more money
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Yeah, I'll jump in for for Vince here. I look I understand where you love you the most. I think that's
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I mean, this is like this is the
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I mean we can have a long conversation about the subscription model
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Our hope is honestly that we get a lot of people into the door
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They see the value in their subscriptions and then they keep their subscriptions because we're providing premium content, right?
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So it's a way you know we so appreciate the the loyalists and
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The people who are with us especially from day one and month one and however however it may be but
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This is a common thing you see in sales where what you're trying you're you're trying to get people into the door
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And then they'll see the quality product that we provide and they'll stay in there because I do think we provide a quality product
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Uh Sebastian is back. He says yes. They did get the special add on the mail tariffs weren't too bad on it
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Thanks again guys. Uh listen to you guys and nightly along with my two boys jack-and-max. Oh shout out to jack-and-max shout out to them
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Uh, and then Mikey phased says bow plays the Joker role on the show. We love it. I don't know what that's in referring reference to but I'll take it
00:59:03
Hi, it was I was a reference to Zach saying that Malfon who plays the Joker role in that defense
00:59:10
Uh, so I was gonna say that um, you know Jordan Schultz from Fox Sports had a report out today that
00:59:16
The Eagles are making, you know, Dallas Goddard and Bryce off available for trade and and because when we're talking about Bryce off
00:59:22
That came to mind and like you know, I'm not gonna criticize the poor because he's appealing to a national audience
00:59:28
People who don't watch a daily show might not realize that the Eagles priced fridge and signing last year from from dollars is available via trade
00:59:36
But there's tight ends available via trade, but typically when word like that is put out by national reporters
00:59:42
It is to try to draw Pinterest around the league, right? Or
00:59:45
That's the send a message to the player like hey go try to see if you can but if you can find a better opportunity somewhere else
00:59:52
There you go
00:59:56
Friend, what do you got caught on this weekend? I was gonna get my third player. I didn't get my third player. Oh, good. Go ahead. Okay
01:00:01
Uh, sorry. Sorry. I was a little excited about giving you that
01:00:05
Let's hear it. Uh, so this is Neville Gowelmore. Uh, yeah, I looked at him as well. Yeah, uh, that's a tackle
01:00:12
He went from the ramps to the Colts the last time we saw him is on the field in the snow he had a safety against the Eagles
01:00:17
He had two and a half sacks uh in the postseason. He signed with the Colts for one year
01:00:24
1.27 million 400,000 guaranteed so small contract real typically speaking and I figured that's a player that
01:00:31
Could help you or defensive line rotation
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Neville Gowelmore and other pre draft friend of the favorite I believe
01:00:41
Yeah, I was I was high on him at Oklahoma
01:00:44
That was a player that I was expecting to to outperform his draft slot
01:00:47
He went a little bit later in the draft and I thought he would that's the Dallas Cowboys. How does solid career?
01:00:51
So far he's been he's been a nice rotational player
01:00:54
I was expecting more of an impact three down guy, but um, yeah, he was definitely a pre draft uh pre draft favorite for me
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So listen we did uh, we did what
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I think rub our back, you know, just a little a little tip for tat no big deal comment below like the video
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Subscribe all that stuff
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Let zack sleep at night. We I I truly appreciate the first comment where he said it's just
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It's a no brainer since day one when the line of a talents announced that line of a talent has only you know
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We've added to it obviously with friend
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Um, and I appreciate that that sentiment because
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uh
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To me like the the secret sauce here is the people is like the the quality of people we have covering the teams and working behind the scenes and um, you know
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I I think in in all industries talents different the talent is the differentiator you can you can talk about
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Your business model you can talk about your technology whatever maybe but ultimately it's about the talent and you know
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I think we have real good talent covering the teams here in philly
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And doing shows all around right
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For any way doing this weekend
01:02:24
Uh, we've got one of my uh one of my college roommates
01:02:29
Uh coming into town him his wife uh and his son coming down so they're spending the weekend
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Uh checking out the flyers tomorrow night uh doing a little uh stuff around the suburbs tomorrow during the day
01:02:39
Uh, so yeah, it'll be fun coming out from New Hampshire, so they're making the ride. They actually should have left by now so they should be uh in route
01:02:45
Was he working on the football team with you
01:02:50
Uh, he was yeah, yeah, he was uh, he was he was
01:02:53
I
01:02:55
Hired him and then a spot. Oh, we were the same age
01:02:58
So he uh a spot opened up in his rest so we I moved in and uh, yeah, we've been one of my best friends
01:03:04
Fantastic, so then how about you?
01:03:07
Uh MOA and my kids are going to Florida um to visit my in-laws um, so
01:03:13
Uh, I am working this weekend. I I have um
01:03:19
Uh long. Well, it's a short to-do list
01:03:21
But it's
01:03:26
But there's there's uh it depends on it depends on how you're measuring it by task or by word count
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Yeah, yeah, there's only one thing on my to-do list this weekend, but it is going to take about um, I am allocating
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Uh
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26 combined hours over the net over Saturday and Sunday on this task uh, so
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I will be 13 hours a day
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That's that's how I got the 26 uh, so yeah, I'm excited. Well, um, I need to be efficient this weekend. It is um
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I'm very sorry to see Emily and my kids uh, Lee because I'm going to miss them. Uh, yeah, I um
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But it's for for my production. It might be beneficial
01:04:08
Great question for media sandwich super jazzyk. What's the first cheat meal with the empty nest CB
01:04:15
Yeah, um probably Johnny's pizza nearby here. They have a great cheat steak
01:04:20
So probably that because I promise you I'm not eating cheat steaks and pizza when
01:04:25
Emily and I are sitting down for dinner during the week
01:04:28
So uh, yeah, that is that is um
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Probably what I will do and it will be on Sunday night if I fulfill the work responsibilities that uh, I have allocated for myself
01:04:42
It's a good good light at the end of the yeah, exactly that and then probably I'll go to read us get some water ice um
01:04:49
Oh dear, you'll do your your uh, you're sneaky bike ride
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Yeah, you'll do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly
01:04:56
Uh, uh, Matthew says I'm an early diehard didn't cancel to grab the reduced deal and not going to whine about it
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That's nice, but listen, I don't mind the widening. I think that's totally fair
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But we're happy to have all of you. We do love the originalists more
01:05:11
But what do you got this weekend? Oh, we gotta get we gotta we gotta get this house ready for
01:05:16
For this this baby that's coming
01:05:19
You don't you don't see the rest of the room I'm in right now, but we pulled out all of the
01:05:23
Like baby stuff from our like storage room that
01:05:29
You know, we've been saving and we got like a lot to go through here
01:05:33
Is that what's in the room behind you like everyone wants to know what's behind the door
01:05:38
The no that door is is a smaller little closet. There's one room that is like
01:05:43
The crap room uh, that was yes. Yeah, so it's deep and dark in there. We get it's it's
01:05:51
Really ugly. Yeah, it's a tough scene
01:05:54
But there you go. Yeah, as Julia mentioned in the chat everyone has a crap room
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Which that that was this room until uh, I started working out of it every day
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There you go
01:06:06
All right, Zach. I feel like the longer we keep you no, that's good. No, I
01:06:11
I'm enjoying this. I'm like I
01:06:14
You know the worst part of the weekend is that I don't get to talk to you guys for an hour a day, right? So
01:06:18
We get a range of that. I don't think you'd be happy
01:06:21
I enjoyed doing the show. It's a special remote
01:06:24
yeah
01:06:27
All right, well, I guess I'll do it for the P&C Alliance podcast. Thank you to Fran and Zach
01:06:34
Thank you to all of the viewers and listeners in the chat
01:06:36
We are back on Monday a very exciting show on Monday
01:06:40
I will save the tease, but it's gonna be it's gonna be a forehander
01:06:44
Something uh, we haven't done before
01:06:47
forehander
01:06:53
Yeah, you never heard that
01:06:56
Two hander is like is like uh, you know, it's like it's starting two people
01:07:01
So it's gonna be a forehander
01:07:05
Yeah, I heard that
01:07:07
All right, sorry eight hands will be on that. I mean, there will be eight hands, but yeah, yeah, okay
01:07:16
It's not a that's not a that's not something I just made up
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Okay, okay, yeah, that's
01:07:24
Sorry about that
01:07:28
I
01:07:30
Fran, what did you think of the hooters episode yesterday?
01:07:41
Uh, much like the chat
01:07:45
Uh, there was a couple good woods today
01:07:48
Uh, well, we were talking about one Zach was talking about what he was doing this weekend
01:07:52
Uh, Grandpa will be at the scene now. That worked my favorite takeaway
01:07:57
It was uh, how about sugar and father loves parks as you know
01:08:00
Actually, I've been meeting to ask about this that because isn't your grandfather also the one who told you
01:08:06
Uh, they didn't build all these casinos by people winning money
01:08:10
Yeah, yeah
01:08:13
He's he's he's he's good at it though, right and he doesn't play. Yeah, he's good at it. He's he's uh, he's
01:08:18
He knows I don't want to speak on his behalf um, but um
01:08:25
But yeah, he's he's he's he's a sharp one. That's for sure. I can promise you that
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I believe it
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