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Ever wondered if chaotic cafeteria brawls could turn into life-changing spiritual moments?  Welcome special guest Brian Preston! 

NextGen pastor-awesome Brian joins us this week, filling in for Chad, to share his wild and wonderful camp stories straight from our garage recording setup. 

It's the end of CampSZN and we reminiscing about youth camps. Brian shares the unforgettable stage-diving episodes that epitomize the essence of these transformative gatherings. 

Big Question this week? 
What happens when you shift your ministry focus from numbers to nurturing meaningful connections? 

This week we dive into this shift, this transition to explore the benefits of prioritizing people over statistics. Our reflections on this summer and previous  camp experiences emphasize how stepping outside comfort zones can create lifelong memories and foster incredible bonds. 

Discover how seeing the next generation engage in these traditions brings immense joy and enriches our spiritual journeys. Plus, learn about pivotal moments in ministry that redefine our perspectives and growth.

This episode also tackles the  challenges in youth ministry and the importance of humility and compassion in our faith journeys. Whole-heartedly we need to be more honest and more humble than ever before. 

Brian and Zac also discuss how technology can be both a hurdle and a helpful tool in extending ministry beyond traditional settings.

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