DiscoverTrinitiespodcast 386 – Cold Case Confusion – J. Warner Wallace on the Trinity – Part 2
podcast 386 – Cold Case Confusion – J. Warner Wallace on the Trinity – Part 2

podcast 386 – Cold Case Confusion – J. Warner Wallace on the Trinity – Part 2

Update: 2025-01-31
Share

Description


<figure class="alignright size-full is-resized"></figure>

In this second part (first part here) we hear the rest of this podcast by Cold Case Christianity apologist and former cold case detective J. Warner Wallace.


In this part he tries to define “the doctrine of the Trinity” by quoting a portion of the so-called “Athanasian Creed.” He then argues that this doctrine is necessary for understanding the atonement, and gives his version of the philosophical argument that God could not be a single someone because then he would fail to be perfect in love.


I critique these arguments, then share four of the many facts which led me to reconsider my position on the Bible and “the doctrine of the Trinity.” I end by recommending four good sources for a student of Scripture who is trying to figure out whether or not the Bible teaches a Trinity doctrine: biblicalunitarian.com, the REV translation, and Dr. Dustin Smith’s Biblical Unitarian Podcast. I also discuss Mr. Wallace’s habit of referring to “the triune nature of God,” explaining why some trinitarians affirm and others deny that divinity implies tripersonality.



<figure class="alignright size-large is-resized"></figure>

Has Wallace shown that the Trinity is an essential Christian doctrine? Let us know what you think in the comments below or in the trinities podcast Facebook Group.


Links for this episode:


podcast 2 – the “Athanasian Creed”


J.N.D. Kelly, The Athanasian Creed


Tuggy, “Antiunitarian Arguments from Divine Perfection” – a general refutation of a whole range of arguments from divine perfections, e.g. love, against unitarian theologies.


podcast 286 – Is the Trinity Essential? – Three Views


podcast 63 – Thomas Belsham and other scholars on John 8:58 – Trinities


McIntosh, Ed., One God, Three Persons, Four Views – a four way debate between Branson, Craig, Hasker, and Tuggy.


Kermit Zarley on “My Lord and my God.”


This week’s thinking music is “Bad Guys” by Dirk Dehler.


<figure class="wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio">

https://youtu.be/6YHjvkTbJuI?si=3d_cwIm4x0rm2GBk

</figure>
Comments 
In Channel
loading
00:00
00:00
x

0.5x

0.8x

1.0x

1.25x

1.5x

2.0x

3.0x

Sleep Timer

Off

End of Episode

5 Minutes

10 Minutes

15 Minutes

30 Minutes

45 Minutes

60 Minutes

120 Minutes

podcast 386 – Cold Case Confusion – J. Warner Wallace on the Trinity – Part 2

podcast 386 – Cold Case Confusion – J. Warner Wallace on the Trinity – Part 2