Mutations

In this appropriately seasonal episode, John Anderson joins me for a follow up conversation to explore the differences between the weird and the eerie, drawing from the late Mark Fisher's same-titled book, an animistic take on hauntology, before wrapping up our conversation with a few spooky stories. Show notes: John's Patreon, Instagram The Weird and the Eerie, Mark Fisher --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

Following Hurricane Ian, John Anderson joined me in St. Petersburg, Florida for an extended visit. We sat down one evening to (finally) record one the many longform conversations we've had the benefit of enjoying recently. Together, John and I explore the intersection of Chinese Medicine, Daoist philosophy, temporal arts, and animist attitudes towards not only weathering Anthropocene storms, but living and realizing the innate and creative wholeness that is our human spirit. ABOUT JOHN: John is a fellow Revelore Press author (see The Way of the Living Ghost, and Opening the Vermillion Spirit). John Anderson is a practitioner and teacher of several styles of Asian medicine having received his Master’s degree in Oriental Medicine at the Florida College of Integrative Medicine (FCIM) and his Doctorate in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine at the Oregon College of Oriental Medicine (OCOM). Dr. Anderson’s formal training extends to the use of herbal medicine from the perspective of Chinese medicine, both classical (ShangHan method) and contemporary (through the Ding/Shen/Hammer lineage). In addition to his formal education in Chinese Medicine, he has had training in Lakota practices and in Eastern esoteric herbal medicine and Chinese folk medicines. As part of his broader learning process, he has worked with plants, stones, and other natural ingredients for the better part of twenty years, beginning with many aspects of contemporary European paganism. This interest evolved and grew to encompass Eastern philosophies and practices. His ongoing research interests include: Gu syndromes, virtue medicine in tradition of Wang Fengyi, Daoist and Buddhist exorcistic practices, and Disability Studies at large. His work on Gu has appeared in Verdant Gnosis, volume 4. Opening the Vermillion Spirit is the second of three books, following on his 2019 Way of the Living Ghost. John's Patreon Social: Instagram & Facebook --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

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A midnight recording I've dubbed "three theses on liminality." What definition of "liminal" would be satisfactorily descriptive as to the conditions of the present? Isn't our epoch, by definition, a kind of civilizational liminality? Three theses came together for me in this playful exercise. Liminality: a threshold, the interregnum (Gramsci), and the Janus-Faced World (Gebser)/Coyolxuahqui (Anzaldua) Imperative. Show notes: Joe Lightfoot's article, "The Liminal Web: Mapping An Emergent Subculture Of Sensemakers, Meta-Theorists & Systems Poets" Seeing Through the World (2022 Online Course) Mutations Patreon Readings: Antonio Gramsci, Prison Notebooks. Jean Gebser, The Ever-Present Origin. Gloria Anzaldúa, Light in the Dark/Luz en lo Oscuro. Jeremy Johnson, Seeing Through the World. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

For this episode of Mutations, Henry Andrews joins me for a conversation on the emergence of "Hellametamodernism," the tensions between 'systems poets' and 'meta theory' in metamodern and Game B community discourse, and how Nora Bateson's "aphanipoiesis" offers a different approach to "going meta." BIO: Henry Andrews is self-taught Gravesian theorist whose interests include examining the theory with a critical eye, and searching for applications beyond those popularized through Spiral Dynamics. He is currently developing an embodied conversational ritual based on Gravesian patterns and other concepts.   SHOW NOTES:   Henry's homepage On the emergence of 'Hellametamodernism' Henry's Tiktok Nora Bateson's paper on Aphanipoiesis Mystic Midway Turn Your Life Into Art: Lessons in Psychomagic from the San Francisco Underground Joe Lightfoot's Liminal Web article --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

In this episode, I am joined by Gordon White, host of Rune Soup podcast, a show about magic, culture and the paranormal. Gordon is the author of The Chaos Protocols, Star.Ships, and Pieces of Eight: Chaos Magic Essays and Enchantment. Note that I recorded this before the new year, in December 2019, but if you listen until the end you might notice some oddly prescient comments about health and wellbeing in 2020. I begin my discussion with Gordon exploring the rise of communities of magical practice during a time of planetary crisis, and naturally, we roll into a discussion on imagination and storytelling. What are the kinds of stories - the planetary myths -  we need to be tuning into right now, in the epoch of the Anthropocene/Chthulucene? Gordon talks about how to be “a pacifist in a living universe,” living artistically through a “non-tyrannical way of being in the world.” Authors like Ursula K. Le Guin and her Taoist-anarchic heroes (Georg Orr as depicted in The Lathe of Heaven, or Ged in A Wizard of Earthsea), or J.R.R. Tolkien’s Sam and Frodo in The Lord of the Rings, can teach us something about living this way. Gordon was a delight to speak to - and there’s much more in the conversation.  More show notes: Visit Rune Soup and check out Gordon’s community, where he hosts subscriber events, book clubs, and classes Get Gordon’s books Talking Creation, Faerie, and Facing 2020 with Dr Becca Tarnas (Rune Soup ep.) A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K Le Guin Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell Podcast music by Infinite Third, used with permission (thanks Billy) Join the Mutations Patreon community for access to early podcasts, Discord server, and book club. Next month we start our Phenomenon of Man by Teilhard de Chardin reading club. Join the Mutations Discord server (link may expire) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

Mutations truly go on! As we wade further into the murky complexities of the meta-crisis, I bring you an update from COVID-19 quarantine. This is a recording from 4/2/20. Part riff, part Q&A discussion with viewers as we explore how to navigate the “meta-crisis,” including helpful ways of looking the current world state and navigating to (latent), more beautiful futures. Themes of liminality, metaxis (“betweenness”), and integral ontology come into the picture right now, as we collectively attempt to find our way to a new mode of sensemaking and culture building that is more akin to Teilhard de Chardin’s planetization, or Jean Gebser’s integral aperspectivity. Do tune in. This one definitely felt like climbing on a pulpit.  PS: There’s now a backlog of interviews, some recorded before the COVID-19 epidemic--from another era! But they are coming. Thanks, listener, for your gracious patience. "Corona and the Commons" by Michel Bauwens of the P2P Foundation "Notes on Metamodernism,” by Timotheus Vermeulen & Robin van den Akker Mutual Aid (Kropotkin) and planetary consciousness Join My Patreon for more discussions like this one, access to my private Discord server, and sneak peeks at upcoming writing projects and interviews --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

Zachary Stein joins Mutations for a discussion on how The Dawn of Everything (Graeber & Wengrow) challenges and invites a re-envisioning of our developmental models, Stein's meta-psychology and how it approaches that challenge, and how renewing our political imagination is more important than ever for our time between worlds.   BIO: Dr. Zachary Stein is a writer, speaker, and transformative educator working to bring a greater sense of justice and sanity to education. Zak was educated at Hampshire College and Harvard University, during which time he co-founded Lectica, a non-profit organization dedicated to redesigning standardized testing infrastructures. He has taught classes at Harvard University and Meridian University, and has been invited to speak at a wide range of venues, from the National Security Agency to off-the-grid spiritual retreat centers. Zak is a co-founder of The Consilience Project, which is dedicated to improving public sensemaking and building a movement to radically upgrade digital media landscapes.  Homepage: http://www.zakstein.org/ Support Mutations podcast: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnsonTwitter: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

Please enjoy the audio from this year's Origins: A Cosmo-Local Gathering conference panel between Rudolf Hammerli (Swiss Gebser Society president, Novalis publisher), Aaron Cheak (former US Gebser Society president, Rubedo Press publisher), and myself. During the panel, Rudolf Hammerli shares his memories of Jean Gebser and additionally distills "four pillars" of Gebser's integral philosophy, with commentary by Aaron Cheak and myself. The segment concludes with a poetry reading by Michael Love, introduced by former Gebser Society president and panelist Dr. Dave Zuckerman (see his talk, Transforming Outcomes as Sacramento State). Please see here for more information about the 2021 Gebser Conference. Episode Notes: Origins, a Cosmo-Local Gathering (2022 Gebser Conference) Support this podcast + join the Mutations community Mutations homepage + blog   --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

Nora Bateson joins us for a panel discussion on "The Great Stage Theory Debate." Panelists include Maimunah Mosli, a Muslim family psychotherapist from Singapore who brings a much needed non-Western voice to this discussion, and Jon Freeman, an author and Spiral Dynamics expert who is advocating for the usage of stage theory, and myself, attempting to hold the facilitator role as much as I realistically can. A follow-up Mutations monologue will be published soon with some more thoughts on how a Gebserian approach offers another kind of non-linear framing for consciousness efflorescence more aligned with Nora's approach on the one hand and creatively engaging new works (like The Dawn of Everything by Graeber and Wengrow) on the other. Stay tuned for that, plus more recorded panels. Original post by Nora: https://www.facebook.com/norabateson/posts/10159038460440860  Hanzi's reply: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1199720657209567&id=100015149321507  Article recommended by Nora: "The Place of eugenics in Arnold Gesell’s maturation theory of child development":  https://indexarticles.com/health-fitness/canadian-psychology/place-of-eugenics-in-arnold-gesells-maturation-theory-of-child-development-the/  Jon's article, https://medium.com/@jon_25033/timelines-in-stage-theory-from-flatland-and-stasis-to-living-dynamics-d6e5a6773e81 PANELIST INFO:   Nora Bateson's homepage: https://batesoninstitute.org/nora-bateson/ Maimunah Mosli: https://www.taosinstitute.net/about-us/people/institute-associates/asia/singapore/maimunah-mosli Jon Freeman: http://spiralfutures.com/ & https://twitter.com/freejonsop --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

Presented at the 50th annual Jean Gebser Society Conference, "Origins: A Cosmo-Local Gathering." St. Petersburg, FL chapter. "Mutations, Imagination, Futurability" is my introductory essay featured in the forthcoming Mutations - Issue Zero (Feb. 2022). Published by Integral Imprint. Gebser Conference: https://gebser.org/events/origins-conference/ Support Mutations podcast and join the community (Discord, Zoom calls, early publishing, Q&A): https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson Read more about Integral Imprint: https://revelore.press/integral/  Connect with Jeremy on social: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

In episode 23 of Mutations, I talk with Jeremy Lent about his new book: The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe. Lent's newest work proposes an integrated worldview very much in the philosophical spirit of the scholars and teachers we explore on Mutations (integral philosophy, theory, etc.). At the time of recording this, I was just coming down from the whirl of regenerative possibilities explored in the Integrales Forum panel, "Becoming the Planetary", where Lent and others talked about framing a new narrative around a "regenerative turn." Part of this turn, however, means important breaks from traditional narratives in Western culture concerning evolutionism and progressive societal development.   Lent's book articulates this regenerative narrative wonderfully, and I had to agree with Tyson Yunkaporta's blurb: "This book is a good place to sit for anybody interested in binding the wounds of thoughtless progress and allowing for the emergence of new patterns of being."  I was also delighted to share some of my thoughts on the interrelationship with Lent's writing and my own research with Jean Gebser. We discussed the convergence points across the conversation. Thanks for listening, and stay tuned with me: Mutations has a back log now, and as I continue to work on my next book, more conversations should be going up over the next few months. Episode 23 Notes Jeremy Lent's homepage: https://www.jeremylent.com/the-web-of-meaning.html  Becoming the Planetary panel: https://youtu.be/G1omWgjvPRM  Support these conversations and join the Mutations community: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson Mutations blog: http://mutations.blog Connect with me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes Join the Mutations group on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mutations.salon/ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

November 24, Barbara Karlsen and Brandt Stickley return to Mutations for a community call on embodying integral consciousness and exploring what they mean by the "aperspectival body." | Barbara Karlsen: http://www.barbarakarlsen.com, | Brandt Stickley: https://www.brandtstickley.com | Stay up to date on the next Mutations salon: https://jeremydjohnson.substack.com | Support Mutations: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

In this episode of Mutations, I speak with Michel Bauwens about the role of the commons for cultural evolution, the resurgence of P2P (Peer-to-Peer) networks during the global pandemic, and glimpses of integral, post-capitalist futures. Michel Bauwens is the founder and Vision Coordinator of the P2P Foundation and works in collaboration with a global group of researchers in the exploration of peer production, governance, and property. Michel is also the director of research of CommonsTransition.org. a platform for policy development aimed toward a society of the Commons and a founding member of the Commons Strategies Group, with Silke Helfrich and David Bollier, who have organised major global conferences on the commons and economics. Three recent books, amongst which (with Vasilis Kostakis), Network Society and Future Scenarios for a Collaborative Economy have been published in English, Dutch and French. Michel currently lives in Chiang Mai, Thailand and is currently finalizing a Commons Transition Plan for the city of Ghent in Belgium. https://twitter.com/mbauwens https://p2pfoundation.net https://commonstransition.org/peer-to... MUTATIONS: Join our Patreon community, which offers perks like weekly Zoom calls, Discord channel, and unpublished writing: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson Listen to Mutations as a podcast: https://anchor.fm/mutations Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jdj_writes Mutations on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mutat... #P2P #IntegralTheory #Commons --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

A riff on the meaning of "planetary" culture, thinking, and ontology. This week I riffed on the nomenclature starting first with Eugene Thacker's via negativa and cosmological approach in In the Dust of this Planet and Lynn Margulis's biological approach in Symbiotic Planet.  Next week we'll explore the socio-political dimensions of this inquiry by revisiting Against the Web (Michael Brooks), Gaia, a Way of Knowing: Political Implications of the New Biology (William Irwin Thompson), and A Sociable God (Ken Wilber).  Support this podcast on Patreon | Watch Mutations Streams on YouTube | Podcast art by J. Andrew World --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

For the fifth episode of MUTATIONS, I am pleased to bring you Michael Brooks. Michael is a political journalist, integral thinker, and host of The Michael Brooks show. Together we explore the Intellectual Dark Web (the subject of his upcoming book from Zero Books) and Jordan Peterson. We also consider the alternative depth psychologist, James Hillman (who arguably speaks more from the left), the applicability of Ken Wilber’s Integral Theory to politics, a need in the consciousness culture for a historic grounding in economic theory, and building towards authentic, bottom-up planetary meshworks. SHOW NOTES / FLORILEGIUM The Michael Brooks Show on Patreon Michael’s Twitter The Michael Brooks Show on YouTube Michael Brooks on Zero Books James Hillman, We’ve Had a Hundred Years of Psychotherapy—And the World’s Getting Worse James Hillman, Re-Visioning Psychology (Recommended) Rebel Wisdom with Doshin Nelson Roshi (apologies for the brain fog during the recording), “A Zen Master Talks About Jordan Peterson and the Shadow” Notes: This conversation and the heated, bifurcated response to it (200k+ views) is very interesting. So much so that there was a follow-up episode with Rebel Wisdom to reflect on why it hit such a nerve. Ken Wilber, in the late 90s and early 2000s, critiqued much of postmodern academia and the progressive left as “flatland reductionism,” “mean green meme” (via Don Beck’s Spiral Dynamics), and “aperspectival madness” (an unfortunate hijacking of Jean Gebser’s term, ‘aperspectival,’ which means something completely different) many years before the Peterson phenomenon in popular culture. There is some substance in these criticisms, (i.e. “true-but-partial”). As we noted in this episode by way of Mark Fisher’s essay, or Angela Nagel’s Kill All Normies, a critique from within the left is needed, and as Rebel Wisdom says often, “the left needs to get its house in order.” I’m in support of this. However, a knowledge and literacy of leftist“theory” is something I often sense is sorely lacking in the integral movement. This is something that Wilber shares with Peterson: a postmodern “allergy,” a lack of progressive metabolism. Integral oriented thinkers from the progressive left desperately need to step forward and bridge that gap. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

This talk, “Transcending Cancel Culture Critique: An Integral Left with Jeremy Johnson,”  was presented at The Stoa on 8.25.20. Watch the video here. Thanks again to Peter Limberg for inviting me to present this talk and for permission to cross-publish on Mutations podcast. Please check out my accompanying article for this talk (read that here) where I break down the “three literacies” I think we need before we can have a substantive conversation about “transcending” cancel culture. Note: We’re about $5 from reaching a Patreon milestone. Please help spread the word and thank you for your support! // Connect with me on Patreon | Twitter | Mutations on Discord | Mutations Facebook Group // --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

Greetings, mutants! During the Texts and Traditions colloquium in Seattle, WA, I stole away with John Anderson (author) and Brandt Stickley (foreword) to talk about The Way of the Living Ghost.  About the book: "This enigmatic work by Dr Anderson combs through the Daodejing, line by line, in new translation giving robust commentary to the dark side of the Dao." It’s something like a book written by a hungry ghost, about how we, the living, are already hungry ghosts too.  Forgive the sound quality... The microphone, alas, did not pick us up too well without some post-production audio boosting. Then there was the fridge turning on, midway. Hence, the kitchen sessions. Appropriate for hungry ghosts. If you can mind the sound, tune in with earphones and listen to what both John and Brandt have to say. It’s worth it! More Revelore recordings are on the way. Plus, these two fellows are contributors to the forthcoming anthology Mutations: Art, Consciousness and the Anthropocene. Grab the way of the Living Ghost on Amazon, or Revelore Press. It is also available in deluxe edition (check my instagram in a few weeks for snazzy pictures).  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

In this solo episode, Jeremy briefly reflects on his research for the upcoming publication, Fragments of an Integral Futurism (2019), and what that might mean for creating an integral culture. SHOW NOTES:  David Graeber, "How to Change the Course of Human History" Thomas Moore, Utopia, Verso Books Edition with essays by China Mieville and Ursula K Le Guin PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/jeremyjohnson --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message

In episode 7 of Mutations podcast, I am joined by paleontologist-futurist Michael Garfield.  Michael is an artist, podcast host (Future Fossils), musician, painter, philosopher--am I missing anything? Like me, Michael wears many hats. We recorded a back-to-back episode. This is part one. You can find part two on Future Fossils.  Michael and I offer philosophical and existential reflections on the “Deep Adaptation” movement, popularized by Jem Bendell’s recent climate report paper, and Daniel Thorson’s Emerge podcast interview, by considering what we can learn from evolutionary and cultural catastrophes throughout history. While we don’t arrive at easy answers, I sense that there is a way of thinking and relating that is emerging in the age of the Anthropocene, as Sean Kelly writes, “beyond hope and despair.” This way of thinking and being leaves open the possibility of a hyper-illuminated dark age... as a way of seeing, like the owl-eyed Athena, into the dark places. LINKS: Michael Garfield on Twitter Santa Fe Institute Michael’s Homepage The Lindisfarne Tapes Sean Kelly, Living in End Times: Beyond Hope and Despair (Revelore Press) MUSIC:  Artist: Billy Mays III / Infinite Third.  Album: Channel(s) Tracks: "Vision(s)" for intro/outro, "In(to)" for intermezzo PATREON:  Join the Mutations Patreon community here for access to our Discord channel, Zoom salon calls, early podcasts and featured writing content. ARTWORK: Featured art by Archan Nair. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mutations/message