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Jim and Mark use the insane ramblings of a tiny-handed narcissist to explain logical fallacies. Each episode we focus on a single logical fallacy and, using examples from Trump, UK politics and pop culture, explore how and why it fools people, how to avoid committing it yourself, and how to counter it in an argument.

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In the one hundred and forty seventh episode we take another look at the Moral Equivalence Fallacy, starting with Trump comparing January 6 insurrectionists with BLM protestors, Dinesh D'Souza comparing Trump to Navalny, and Matthew Dowd comparing sexual assault to mishandling emails.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Shelagh Fogarty comparing silence over ministerial misdeeds to hiding in a fridge, and Rishi Sunak and Sam Armstrong equating pro-Palestinian protestors with war criminals, and .In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Halt and Catch Fire, Criminal Minds, and The I.T. Crowd.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump's insane Presidential Records Act defense in his Florida trial.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft147 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Obfuscation - FT#146

Obfuscation - FT#146

2024-03-3101:25:39

In the one hundred and forty sixth episode we explore the Obfuscation Fallacy, starting with Trump badly clarifying his support for Putin, Trump's Doctors pretending he wasn't given supplemental oxygen when being treated for COVID, and Kevin McCarthy denying something nobody accused him of.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Boris being suitably vague about his plans to run for leader and his missing WhatsApp messages, Mark Harper and Graham Stuart being unclear repeatedly about whether Lee Anderson and Frank Hester said racist things.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from That Mitchell & Webb Look, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and Shrek the Third.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about what's going on with Trump's various court cases.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft146 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and forty fifth episode we explore the Affirming the Consequent Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming more COVID proved their testing was better, Fake News was perfect for CNN, and the Democrats were damaging the country.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Liberal Democrat MP Munira Wilson questioning Matt Hancock's motives for abolishing Public Health England and Lard Marland defending Tory donor Frank Hester against accusations of racism.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from ALF, Cheers, and Monty Python and the Holy Grail.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Biden's SOTU and Katie Britt's response, and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft145 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and forty fourth episode we explore the Denying the Antecedent Fallacy, starting with Trump's lawyers claiming he's immune, Trump claiming Mueller had no evidence against him, and Rep. Debbie Lesko trying to 'gotcha' Robert Mueller.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Margaret Thatcher claiming the source of satisfaction is hard work, Kier Starmer claiming George Galloway wouldn't have won in Rochdale if they'd had a candidate, and Robert Jenrick claiming immigrants can't integrate into society if there's too many of them.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Little Miss Sunshine, Animaniacs, and American Dad.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Supreme Court taking up Trump's immunity case, and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft144You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Playing Politics - FT#143

Playing Politics - FT#143

2024-02-2001:52:401

In the one hundred and forty third episode we explore the Playing Politics Fallacy, starting with Trump blaming the border security related shutdown on Democrats and accusing them of blocking funding for the Paycheck Protection Program before we hear Jim Jordan, Ted Cruz and Bill Eiger avoid the gun control debate by clutching their pearls about Democrats politicizing mass shootings.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Rishi Sunak repeatedly accusing Kier Starmer of playing politics to deflect attention from all the playing politics that Rishi is doing, then hear Jacob Rees-Mogg attack UNICEF for feeding poor British children.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Shield, Don't Look Up, and The West Wing.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the $355 million that Trump is now required to pay New York and all the other court thingies which went badly for Trump since last we spoke.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft143 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and forty second episode we explore the Schrödinger's Idiot Fallacy, starting with Trump deflecting criticism for asking Russia to hack Hillary's emails, suggesting people inject disinfectant and getting Biden's name wrong.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at 30p Lee Anderson joking about people wanting to go to Bradford, and Avanti West Coast not being serious enough about their bonus structure.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Peep Show, Kevin Can F**k Himself, The Simpsons, and Andrew Tate.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the $83.3 million that Trump is now required to pay E Jean Carroll.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft142You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Scapegoating - FT#141

Scapegoating - FT#141

2024-01-2301:32:44

In the one hundred and forty first episode we explore the Scapegoating Fallacy, starting with Trump blaming China for COVID and immigrants for crime, as well as Elon Musk blaming the Anti-Defamation League for Twitter losing ad revenue.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at 30p Lee Anderson blaming food banks on people who can't cook, and Robert Jenrick blaming a lawyer for his (lack of) political career.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Little Caesars, In Sickness and In Health, and Bob's Burgers.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then Jim talks to our guest Reed Galen, co-founder of the Lincoln Project.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft141 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Automation Fallacy - FT#140

Automation Fallacy - FT#140

2024-01-0901:54:301

In the one hundred and fortieth episode (in which we swap roles Freaky-Friday-style) we explore the Automation Fallacy, starting with Trump suggesting technology is great for immigration but then disagreeing with himself.In Jim's British Politics Corner we look at The UK Governments attempts to use algorithms to assign exam grades, fight crime and stop immigrants (not all immigrants - you know which ones) from getting in.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Mr Bates vs The Post Office, I Robot, Little Britain, and Friends.Mark and Jim go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Jim has to guess which one of three Boris Johnson quotes Mark made up.Then we talk about Trumps packed trial schedule for 2024.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft140 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Happy New Year! A couple of years ago we both hated WW84 and needed to rant about it for our Patrons. For a while. So here's the second part of our breakdown, just in case you're interested. It's part scholarly film theory analysis, part snarky nitpicking, part exasperated diatribe.  We explore the themes of female empowerment, wish fulfilment and 80s nostalgia while laughing/crying about the anachronisms, inconsistencies, and just plain shitty filmmaking that is WW84.There's a LOT to hate about this film, so there's plenty more on our Patreon at patreon.com/ftrump if you just can't get enough.. We're sorry. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Merry Christmas! A couple of years ago we both hated WW84 and needed to rant about it for our Patrons.  For a while.  So here's the first part of our breakdown, just in case you're interested. It's part scholarly film theory analysis, part snarky nitpicking, part exasperated diatribe.   We explore the themes of female empowerment, wish fulfilment and 80s nostalgia while laughing/crying about the anachronisms, inconsistencies, and just plain shitty filmmaking that is WW84.There's a LOT to hate about this film, so there'll be more on New Year's Day. We're sorry. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Straw Man (Redux) - FT#139

Straw Man (Redux) - FT#139

2023-12-2501:39:16

In the one hundred and thirty ninth episode we take another look at the Straw Man Fallacy, starting with Trump misrepresenting Biden and Sanders' unity platform, as well as Biden's stance on guns, energy and God.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Margaret Thatcher distorting Simon Hughes' question, Rishi pretending he helped, and Sir Michael Fallon lying about what Jeremy Corbyn just said.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Brooklyn Nine Nine, The Simpsons, and Alex Jones.Jim and Mark go head to head in a very special Christmas edition of Fake News, in which Mark has to guess which three of nine unaired Trump TV projects Jim made up.Then we talk about the Colorado Supreme Court ruling which removed Trump from the primary ballot.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft139 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Bulverism - FT#138

Bulverism - FT#138

2023-12-1101:24:57

In the one hundred and thirty eighth episode we explore the Bulverism Fallacy, starting with Trump suggesting reporters are against him and indictments are political persecution.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at a Red Herring from Rishi, Nigel Farage questioning Coutts motives for closing his account, and Mike Graham losing an argument to a carpenter.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Friends, Sister Sister, and Casablanca.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark (and our special guest Ian) have to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk our guest, author, stand up and QED Quiz host Ian Hawkins.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft138 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
What's the Harm - FT#137

What's the Harm - FT#137

2023-11-2801:38:07

In the one hundred and thirty seventh episode we explore the What's the Harm Fallacy, starting with Trump suggesting childhood vaccines should be more spread out and African Americans might as well try voting for him.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Nigel Farage defending Dominic Cumming's Barnard Castle trip and Suella Braverman's reaction to racist dolls being removed by police.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from the Be Reasonable Podcast, Back to the Future II, The Good Place, and Seinfeld.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the leaked proffer videos of Trump's co-defendants.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft137 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and thirty sixth episode we explore the I'm Entitled to my Opinion Fallacy, starting with Mike Pence defending Trump's right to the opinion that he actually won the popular vote, Joe Tacopina defending Trump's right to the opinion that Judge Marchan was biased against him, Roger Stone invoking his own right to the opinion that Russians aren't Russians, and Kellyanne Conway inventing the term 'Alternative Facts'.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Gary Lineker claiming his right to his opinion about Brexit, and GB News defending Suella Braverman's odious opinions.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Mentalist, The Big Bang Theory and 12 Angry Men.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the Trump family testifying under oath.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft136 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and thirty fifth episode we explore the Worst Case Scenario, starting with Trump claiming he saved 2 million lives, Joseph Ladapo warning people not to have the Covid vaccine, and Dick Cheney advocating a one percent doctrine.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Jeremy Corbyn inflating the cost of Brexit to the NHS and the Leave campaign decrying 'Project Fear'. In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from The Good Place, Frozen, Tangled and Batman V Superman: Dawn of JusticeJim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about all of Trump's co-defendants who have pleaded guilty in Georgia.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft135 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Sour Grapes - FT#134

Sour Grapes - FT#134

2023-10-1701:24:43

In the one hundred and thirty fourth episode we explore the Sour Grapes Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming Salma Hayek is too short for him, and NFL games are boring, and various right wingers claim Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are talentless and ugly.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Jonathan Wallace and Nigel Farage being bitter about losing elections.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from I Love Lucy, Father Ted, and Flight of the Conchords.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the search for a new Speaker.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft134You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Playing the Victim - FT#133

Playing the Victim - FT#133

2023-10-0101:27:12

In the one hundred and thirty third episode we explore the Playing the Victim Fallacy, starting with Trump claiming people only accuse him of sexual assault, fraud, and stealing classified documents because he's the best.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Priti Patel, Dominic Raab, and Boris Johnson all feeling very put upon when asked to behave well.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Russell Brand, The Minute You Wake Up Dead, and Everybody Loves RaymondJim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about Trump being found civilly liable for committing massive fraud in NY.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft133 You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and thirty second episode we explore the Argument from Too Much Evidence, starting with Kandiss Taylor seeing globes everywhere and Dinesh D'Souza being suspicious of Covid.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Nigel Farage decrying Boris Johnson's many claims on when we would leave the EU, followed by the FT's Miranda Green being skeptical about the promises in Corbyn's manifesto.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Blackbird, Murder Mystery, and Inspector Gadget 2.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the new rules about school vouchers in Florida.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft132You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and thirty first episode we explore the Countless Counterfeit Fallacy, starting with proclaiming the huge number of dodgy affidavits he collected and the many terrible scientific studies which show hydroxychloroquine cures Covid. Then Dinesh D'Souza fails to prove election fraud but makes some lofty claims.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at Boris Johnson talking about the many people who believed he didn't break the law, his sister Rachel lying about all the evidence of tactical voting, and Suella Braverman creating lots of new criminals so that she can complain about all the criminals there suddenly are.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Peter Kreeft, Loose Ends, Expedition Unknown: The Hunt for Extra-terrestrials, and The Lost King.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the GOP debate.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft131You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
In the one hundred and thirtieth episode we revisit the Genetic Fallacy, starting with Trump wishing people would look at the oranges of the Mueller Report, then attacking his various prosecutors, before a Trump ally attacks the judge in his DC case.In Mark's British Politics Corner we look at both Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak attacking Kier Starmer to avoid answering questions, and then both Jacob Rees Mogg and Mick Lynch attacking the BBC.In the Fallacy in the Wild section, we check out examples from Murder, She Wrote, The Simpsons, and Twilight.Jim and Mark go head to head in Fake News, the game in which Mark has to guess which one of three Trump quotes Jim made up.Then we talk about the latest indictment against Trump, this time in Georgia.And finally, we round up some of the other crazy Trump stories from the past week.The full show notes for this episode can be found at https://fallacioustrump.com/ft130You can contact the guys at pod@fallacioustrump.com, on Twitter @FallaciousTrump, or facebook at facebook.com/groups/fallacioustrumpSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/fallacious-trump/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Comments (10)

VB

Brilliant to get Reed As a guest. Excellent, informative interview thank you.

Feb 12th
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psyco smurfette

I love this podcast. A perfect mix of comedy and political news.

Jun 8th
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Bill Smith

a thought. Since there are three possible answers to the quotes game, and each is equally likely, isn't a score of 1/3 the total equal to random chance? This means a score of nearly 50% if substantially better than chance! Go Mark!!

Apr 19th
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Bill Smith

you mentioned Kid Rock firing at Bud Light. I saw the video and one huge red flag of note is that Kid Rock fired with a body of water as his "backstop". Anyone who knows anything about firearms knows you don't shoot over water because those bullets will skip and it is impossible to tell where they will go. He violated a basic safety rule, but then, he is not safe.

Apr 18th
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Amanda Joy

brilliant pod- I always enjoy this one

Nov 8th
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VB

Always great

Jan 11th
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VB

Absolutely love this pod. I look forward to it every week. Mark sometimes reminds me of Derek (Dudley Moore) from Derek & Clive - which I love.

Apr 17th
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Joshua Gouge

A wonderful podcast! This has to be one of my favorites. I love it when a new episode pops up! Trump is the perfect subject to use for teaching logical fallacies.

Dec 17th
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