Business 20/20

GuestsBetty-Sue FlowersHostMichelle HarvenWriting and ProductionWritten by Keith Schumann with input from Felicia Davis, Nancy McGaw, Miguel Padró, and the Business & Society Team.Recorded by Ben Eyler, Amina Akhtar, and Rachel Wheeler and edited by Jesse Krinsky.The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Daniel WoldorffMusic Samples Featured in this EpisodeChad Crouch – Algorithms (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Chad Crouch—Negentropy (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Tobacco Road – Storyblocks AudioFollow the Business & Society Program on @AspenBizSociety and subscribe to the Business & Society Newsletter.

GuestsMatthew Tadeschi Hora, Lynn Perry Wooten, Pierre GentinHostMichelle HarvenWriting and ProductionWritten by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.Recorded by Ben Eyler and Amina Akhtar and edited by Jesse Krinsky.The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Phoebe PetrovicMegan Noel OrganMeg MurnaneMichelle StabileLucy HuangMusic Samples Featured in this EpisodeChad Crouch – Algorithms (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Chad Crouch  – Starlight (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Ketsa – Capable (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License)Tobacco Road – Storyblocks AudioArchival AudioMilwaukee Journal Sentinel, Feb 2, 2014Facebook page of Senator Josh Hawley, July 29, 2019

GuestsMaureen Conway, Rana Foroohar, Adam Winkler HostMichelle HarvenWriting and ProductionWritten by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.Recorded by Ben Eyler and edited by Jesse Krinsky.The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Austin MadertLorry SaundersDan LebiednikDaniel WoldorffLarry BuhlLucy HuangMusic Samples Featured in this EpisodeChad Crouch – Algorithms (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Chad Crouch—Negentropy (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Kai Engel—Dark Alleys (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International CC BY 4.0)Tobacco Road – Storyblocks AudioArchival AudioCNN, September 15, 2008CNBC, September 15, 2008Associated Press, September 29, 2008

Episode NotesGuestsRick Wartzman, Doug Chia, Mary GentileHostMichelle HarvenWriting and ProductionWritten by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team. Recorded by Ben Eyler and edited by Jesse Krinsky.The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Chiquita PaschalAnny Celsi Michael BernierMusic Samples Featured in this EpisodeAlgorithms by Chad Crouch (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/Dark Alleys by Kai Engel (Excerpted form of the track) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Infiltration by Room Of Wires (Excerpted form of the track) Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/The Stork by Ketsa (Excerpted form of the track) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Tobacco Road – Storyblocks Audio 

Episode NotesGuestsRebecca Henderson, Aron Cramer, Earthea NanceHostMichelle HarvenWriting and ProductionWritten by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.Recorded by Ben Eyler and edited by Jesse Krinsky.The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Gail DelaughterJohanna PoschwattaAndrew SeltzerAdeline SireTheresa DiederichMusic Samples Featured in this EpisodeAlgorithms by Chad Crouch (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Ongoing Cases by Blear Moon (Excerpted form of the track) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/All the Answers by Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Island of Despair by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Tobacco Road – Storyblocks AudioArchival AudioC-SPAN – June 11, 2001

Episode SummarySeptember 11th, 2001, was a day of horror that changed our sense of self and our place in the world. It also changed the US economy, shaping everything from government policy to how businesses operate. This episode explores the decades-long aftershock of that day, alongside those of another day in 2001: December 11th, when China joined the WTO. Examining these stories together challenges simple narratives that globalization will make societies richer and in time, more democratic. What comes next—and how should businesses prepare? Episode NotesGuestsLinda Bilmes, Jim Barkley, Regina Abrami HostMichelle HarvenWriting and ProductionWritten by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.Recorded by Ben Eyler and edited by Jesse Krinsky.The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Chiquita PaschalMary DooeYahya ChaudhryWayne DavisMusic Samples Featured in this EpisodeChad Crouch—Song Sparrow Serenade (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)All the Answers by Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Brevyn—Dark Depths (Excerpted) Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International (CC BY-NC-ND 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/Trees In The Wind by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Betrayal by Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Chad Crouch – Algorithms (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Tobacco Road – Storyblocks AudioArchival AudioNBC News, September 10, 2001ABC News, September 10, 2011NBC News, October 7, 2001CNN, October 7, 2001Archival Audio – The Associated Press, May 2, 2016Cleveland.Com, July 21, 2016Bloomberg Business, Oct 15, 2019Sky News Australia, August 29, 2019 Fox Business News, October 14, 2019

In most tellings, the 2000 tech crash is a straightforward story: the music stopped and unprofitable dot-com companies failed, paving the way for the more innovative companies of the Web 2.0 era. This episode explores a very different view of the tech crash: as a key turning point where the idealism of early web entrepreneurs gave way to new business practices that would in time, drive today’s backlash against technology companies—the “techlash.” This fresh look at tech’s evolution suggests new answers for idealism in tech, and for promoting greater equality and innovation in the US economy.  GuestsJerry Davis, Brian McCullough, Jaime Levy HostMichelle HarvenWriting and ProductionWritten by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.Recorded by Ben Eyler and edited by Jesse Krinsky. Additional editing by Ben Berliner and Clifton King.The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Rebecca Kruth Anny CelsiMarci KrivonanMusic Samples Featured in this EpisodeThe End is Near (Part 1) by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Effemeah Weeps by Uncan Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Typical Babbler by Unconceptual Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Technetium Planet by Lobo Loco Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Asset House by Six Umbrellas Licensed under Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/Tobacco Road – Storyblocks AudioSound Samples Featured in this EpisodePit_trading » Floor_trading7.wav

In 2019, a global trade war fueled by populist nationalism has raised fears of recession and is forcing businesses to re-think decades-long supply chains. If businesses want to understand this backlash to globalization, they first need to understand it’s been decades in the making. Academics and protesters warned of it in the nineties, culminating in the Battle for Seattle on November 30, 1999. So if the warning of a backlash to globalization was loud and clear twenty years ago, why wasn’t it heeded? And what happens next? Guests: Rosabeth Moss Kanter, Jia-Ching Chen, Susan Ariel Aaronson, Richard EdelmanHost: Michelle HarvenWritten by Keith Schumann with input from T.A. Frank, Miguel Padró, Felicia Davis, and the Business & Society Team.Recorded by Ben Eyler & Amina Akhtar and edited by Jesse Krinsky. The Business & Society team wishes to thank the audio technicians and everyone involved in the production of this episode, including:Russell Simons Craig McDonaldKathryn BarnesChiquita PaschalJennifer York Michael Bush Paige BloomMusic Samples Featured in this Episode:Chad Crouch – Algorithms (Excerpted form of the track; used under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 License)Weightlessness by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Say It Again, I’m Listening by Daniel Birch (www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Everywhereby Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Thought Bubbles by Lee Rosevere (https://leerosevere.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Low Force by Daniel Birch www.danielbirchmusic.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Tobacco Road – Storyblocks AudioArchival Audio:https://archive.org/details/ddtv_186_b_showdown_in_seattlehttps://archive.org/details/ddtv_186_e_showdown_in_seattlehttps://archive.org/details/PeppersprayProductions-IndymediaPresents371ShowdownInSeattleWTOpart2979Archival Audio – The Associated Press, May 2, 2016

Launching soon, the Business 20/20 podcast is a series that explores the changing relationship between business and society from 1999 to today. Each episode unpacks a key event—from the Seattle WTO protests to the global financial crisis and beyond—to find insights for the future. Produced by the Aspen Institute’s Business & Society Program and hosted by Michelle Harven.