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The Manhattan Project helped the US defeat the Nazis. Project Apollo put a person on the moon and hastened the defeat of the Soviet Union. Western supply chains are more vulnerable to China every day. It raises the question: Does the US want to stay a Superpower? Welcome to the Minerals Manhattan Podcast.

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In this episode, we explore the world of direct lithium extraction (DLE) and follow the remarkable journey of E3 Lithium.We delve into the ever-evolving landscape of DLE technology, spotlighting the revolutionary use of "magical beads" for selectively extracting lithium from brine solutions. Joining us is Chris Doornbos, CEO of E3 Lithium, as we dissect the shift in DLE methods driven by factors like efficient loading, rapid kinetics, and effective stripping techniques.Our conversation delves into the intricacies of DLE technology, contrasting ion exchange with absorption methods, and unraveling the significance of pH and chemistry in achieving selectivity. We also address the economic and practical challenges in scaling up DLE technology, underlining the importance of experimental data and the industry's transition from research projects to commercialization.Going beyond DLE, we discuss the broader context of the lithium industry, especially its role in the ascendancy of electric vehicles and the escalating demand for efficient and cost-effective lithium extraction methods. Join us for an enlightening exploration of these critical topics.Chris is the Founder, CEO and Director of E3 Lithium, listed on the TSX Venture Exchange (TSXV: ETL). He is innovator and entrepreneur, an aviator and a founder of emerging ideas and technology. He is passionate about collaboration and progressing innovation. Chris has a broad range of experience in capital raising and M&A. At E3 Lithium, Chris emphasizes risk management, developing and managing an exceptional technical team and well-strategized project development; with a clear focus on creating and capturing value for shareholders.  Chris has successfully led E3 Lithium from the foundation of a private company with a handful of permits to what is now a public company with a global scale lithium resource and an industry leading innovative extraction technology. Chris is a co-founder of the Battery Metals Association of Canada and the formerly Chair of the Canada ISO mirror committee for TC333 (lithium standards).Previously, Chris was the CEO of Revere Development Corp and VP Exploration of MinQuest. He has held a variety of technical positions with mineral and oil/gas development companies including Avalon Minerals (AUS), Suncor, Petro-Canada, Meridian Minerals and NovaGold Corp.E3 Lithiumhttps://www.e3lithium.ca/LinkedInhttps://ca.linkedin.com/in/chrisdoornbosTwitterhttps://twitter.com/ChrisJdoornbos
Understanding the conditions that led to the formation of lithium deposits is critically important to:·       Finding new lithium deposits·       Finding the highest grade parts of these discoveries·       Figuring out how to process the lithium outDr. Tom Benson is the VP of Global Exploration for Lithium Americas and he is a leader in figuring out lithium geology. He authored a scientific paper on the lithium resources of the McDermitt Caldera. What quickly followed were hundreds of articles celebrating the discovery of world’s largest lithium resource in a US supervolcano in sources that range from The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/09/nevada-lithium-geopolitics/675325/New York Post https://nypost.com/2023/09/11/lithium-deposit-found-in-us-mcdermitt-caldera/) The Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12504841/Worlds-largest-lithium-deposit-McDermitt-Caldera-US.htmlTom joins Minerals Manhattan Podcast for an in-depth conversation on his paper in Scientific Advances (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh8183) to explain how all that lithium got there in the first place, why it is so concentrated, and what that means for a world hungry for lithium to power EVs. He gives us a Reader’s Digest version of what clays are, starting with the two main ways in which clays form – physical detrital weathering vs. neoformation in water – and getting to the key point that the clays in the McDermitt Caldera are neoformed authigenic smectites due to the high magnesium/aluminium ratios, meaning they formed in an alkaline lake environment. These high magnesium smectites have lithium concentrations up to 5000 ppm.Tom then explains the illitization enrichment process that leads to the highest lithium concentrations of up to 12,000 ppm, and how in the case of the McDermitt Caldera this concentration occurred under high temperature rather than high pressure, which is what allows this deposit to occur so close to the surface. He explains where the lithium occurs inside these clay minerals or between the sheets.Tom finishes up with an explanation of the split between Lithium Americas and Lithium Argentina, and why he’s lucky to be working with a team who understands the long term value created by fundamental science.Get more Tom:https://www.tombenson.rocks/https://twitter.com/thomasrbensonhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasrbenson/Dr. Benson received his Ph.D. in volcanology from Stanford University in 2017 for his research on global lithium resources associated with large magma chambers. His research has gained international acclaim, appearing in peer-reviewed publications such as Science and Nature, and covered in a wide variety of media outlets from The Atlantic to Fox News and NPR. Prior to his current position as Vice President of Global Exploration at Lithium Argentina, Dr. Benson was Vice President of Global Exploration at Lithium Americas, Adjunct Assistant Professor at New York University, Research Associate at the American Museum of Natural History, Visiting Scholar at Columbia University, Fulbright Scholar in at the Iceland GeoSurvey, Research Associate at MIT, and undergraduate at Harvard U
A special episode with a true lithium legend. In his first ever podcast, Emily sits down with the Lithium Godfather himself, Dr. John Burba. They explore Dr. Burba's storied career from Dow Chemicals to FMC/Livent to Simbol and Molycorp. Incredible career milestones including developing patents and processes to make adsorbant materials and the development of the first ever commercial direct lithium extraction (DLE) plant in Argentina.Episode highlights include Emily getting a lesson in solvent extraction, John himself admitting that he continues to fail at retirement, his story dealing with Elon Musk and Tesla, and what it takes to build a large scale lithium extraction plant. Dr. John Burba is a physical chemist and a world-renowned pioneer in lithium and other mineral extraction technologies. His more than 40-year career features a number of lithium brine projects in North and South America, notably with Dow Chemical Co., FMC Corp., and Chemtura Corp. Most recently, Dr. Burba served as CEO of Simbol materials, a company focused on the recovery of lithium from geothermal brines in Southern California. Under his leadership, Simbol successfully developed a proprietary process capable of producing low-cost, high-purity lithium products from brines that were previously believed to be too high in contaminants to be economically processed. Dr. Burba also recently served as CTO and Executive VP of Molycorp Inc., where he was instrumental in identifying and developing numerous rare earths technologies as part for the Project Phoenix re-development of the Mountain Pass facilities. Dr. Burba received a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry and completed doctoral studies in Physical Chemistry at Baylor University.LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/john-burba-b7251a1/Websitehttps://www.ibatterymetals.com/
Emily is joined by Chris Berry where in this insightful podcast episode, Chris sheds light on the intricacies of the lithium industry's pricing mechanisms, the significance of transparency, and the interplay between market dynamics and the trajectory of the spodumene market.Chris's insights offer a comprehensive understanding of the lithium industry's ongoing transformation, including the involvement of oil and gas companies, the dynamics of battery recycling and second-life usage, and the complexities of battery ownership and responsibility. His expertise sheds light on the critical factors shaping the industry's future trajectory and highlights the significance of aligning different stakeholders' interests for a sustainable and efficient supply chain.Episode HighlightsLithium and Spodumene PricingOil and Gas Industry's Engagement in LithiumBattery Recycling and Second LifeEnd-of-Life Battery ResponsibilityChris BerryBased in Washington DC, Chris has been an independent analyst for the past thirteen years with a focus on battery metals supply chains including lithium, cobalt, graphite, nickel, copper, vanadium, and rare earths. His work supports a roster of global clients including investors, mining companies, oil and gas companies, and EV manufacturers across six continents. His advisory work has a specific focus on how battery metals supply chains are evolving to create opportunities and threats during the energy transition in the coming decades. Aside from traditional supply, demand and pricing analysis, his recent work has focused on battery recycling, alternative extraction technologies, and how battery metals will play an increasingly strategic role in geopolitical and supply chain realignment. Before shifting focus to analysis of these trends, Chris gained twelve years of capital markets experience on both the buy side and sell side.  He has visited and performed economic analysis of metals deposits on six continents and has been featured in multiple media outlets including the Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, NPR, the South China Morning Post, Al Jazeera and CNN International.Chris holds a Master of Business Administration in finance with an international focus from Fordham University, and a Bachelor of Arts in international studies from The Virginia Military Institute.LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-berry-6726657/Chris's PodcastThe Power Current with Chris BerryHouse Mountain Partnershttp://www.discoveryinvesting.com/Twitter@cberry1
Emily is joined by Todd Malan of Talon Metals and they dive into what is shaping, moving and shaking industrial policy in Washington DC. They discuss what's happening to supply chains as we  move  from a fossil fuel centered energy system to a minerals centered energy system. As Emily and Todd explore the nuances of this transition, they share captivating insights from dual perspectives: that of an investor and a project developer. The conversation zeroes in on key legislative initiatives, including the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and the Clean Vehicle Credit under Section 30D. Uncover how these policies are propelling the nation towards cleaner energy solutions and what their implications are for both the environment and the economy.The duo also uncovers the critical role of supply chain security in this new era of energy transformation. From discussions on carbon mineralization to the significance of critical minerals, they shed light on the dynamic interplay between technology, innovation, and sustainability.Episode HighlightsInflation Reduction ActSection 30D - Clean Vehicle CreditThe Transition to Cleaner Sources of EnergySupply Chain SecurityCritical MineralsTodd MalanTodd Malan is Chief External Affairs Officer & Head of Climate Strategy at Talon Metals, a new generation mineral resource company focused on discovery and development of high-grade nickel deposits in the Lake Superior region of the United States.   Malan has responsibility for the company’s interaction with governments, tribal sovereign governments, media, investors, off-take partners and communities.  Malan leads Talon’s climate innovation activities including carbon capture and storage via new approaches to mineralization, reducing operational emissions at sites, clean energy and customer partnerships.  Malan previously led the Corporate Relations team for global mining and metals leader Rio Tinto in the Americas region and globally for the Rio Tinto Aluminum product group.  Before joining the mining and metals sector, Malan was a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs.   He is a graduate of the University of Washington in Seattle and studied at Birkbeck College at the University of London as a Hansard Scholar.  Malan lives in Washington D.C. with his partner David DeSantis.Todd Malan on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-malan-9b901a1a7/
Emily is joined by Henry Sanderson for a fascinating conversation covering global battery supply chains, geopolitics in the mining sector and the companies that are moving and shaking the global EV market. Highlights include; -Why Chinese Entrepreneurs were spooked by LDK Solar-Chile's Nationalisation Drive within the Lithium Space. The story of  Julio Ponce Lerou, SQM and Eduardo Bitrán-China's CATL success story in the global battery and EV space founded by Zeng Yuqun-Volkswagen's early failure to lock up the cobalt market-Artisanal mining and cobalt in the Democratic Republic of CongoHenry Sanderson is the executive editor of Benchmark Mineral Intelligence, the leading provider of data and analysis on the electric vehicle supply chain. He previously worked as a reporter covering commodities for the Financial Times in London, and before that as a reporter for Bloomberg in Beijing. He is the author of Volt Rush: The Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green, which was named a book of the week by The Observer, and one of the best science and environment books published in 2022 by The Times.  Henry's Personal Websitehttps://www.henrysanderson.net/Henry's Acclaimed Book "Volt Rush: The Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green"https://oneworld-publications.com/work/volt-rush/?utm_source=WebsiteBenchmark Minerals Intelligence https://www.benchmarkminerals.com/
Get ready for an exhilarating episode as host and Luna Lithium CEO Emily Hersh sits down with her friend, mentor and business partner Mike Kobler.Mike Kobler is the founder and former CEO of American Lithium, who discovered the Tonopah Lithium Project. He now runs Global Subsurface Strategies while also finding time to make incredible wine with Kobler Estate Winery. In this candid interview, Mike shares invaluable lessons learned throughout his illustrious career in the mining industry, making it an unmissable episode for all mining enthusiasts!🚀 Journey in the Lithium Space: From Engineering Tunnels to Nevada's Clay Stone DiscoveryThe episode kicks off with Mike Kobler's fascinating background from his early days as an engineer building tunnels, where a passion for geology eventually led him to the world of exploration and the lithium space.🗺️ Nevada's Clay Stone Discovery - A Game ChangerOne of the highlights of the episode is the revelation of Nevada's groundbreaking discovery of claystone with substantial lithium deposits in sediments. Find out more about Mike Kobler LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-kobler-30a6a629/Canamerahttp://www.canameranv.com/Global Subsurface Strategies https://globalsubsurface.com/Kobler Estate Winery https://koblerestatewinery.com/
Join host Emily Hersh and Mitra Chem CEO and Co-Founder Vivas Kumar as they cover topics such as Mitra Chem's core competencies of Speed, Focus and Scale and the changing dynamics between China and the US in the battery industry. They discuss cathode chemistries and batteries as an energy storage technology, the Inflation Reduction Act, a US Manufacturing Boom and everything electrication and EVs. This culminates in what Emily calls the Battery Spiderweb.Emily asks Vivas to make a bold prediction for the next 10 yearsVivas Kumar is the CEO and Co-Founder of Mitra Chem. He was previously at Tesla as a senior manager responsible for the global battery supply chain, and a Principal at Benchmark Mineral Intelligence. He earned a BS in electrical engineering from Rice University, and an MBA from the Stanford Graduate School of Business.You can find out more about Vivas Kumar on his LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/vivaswathkumar/and his company Mitra Chem https://www.mitrachem.com/You can follow our host on twitter @LithiumEmily
Our host Emily Hersh and Roger Atkins discuss the polymetallic modules containing nickel, manganese, cobalt and copper that can be found on the ocean floor leading to the big question, Are we going to mine the ocean floors?The discussion gives an excellent  background and overview of last 23 years with Western Countries and China and how we have arrived at the current state of the global battery arms race.Are the same forces at play within western carmakers that publicly support the sustainable agenda, while in the background continuing to operate solely focused on profit? The ocean floors will be mined, the question remains by whom and what will be the unintended consequences?Roger Atkins – Biography Roger has always enjoyed a challenge - which is perhaps why he's so actively involved in the EV revolution, something he's been busy with for almost 20 years in fact! At the same time, he's built an engaged audience on Linkedin for his electric vehicle narrative, which now has a global following fast approaching 300,000 people. He's worked within established automotive OEM's as well as taking several leaps of faith at start-ups including virgincars, gibbs amphibians, and well over a decade ago, electric truck company Modec. These days he's busy hosting or speaking at important industry events, as well as active advisory roles for a few companies including electric aircraft enterprise Zeroavia, Innovative Graphite processor Urbix Resources, the Fully Charged Show, and  the non-profit Canadian organisation ‘Energy Disruptors’ amongst a few othersFollow Roger Atkins on LinkedIn  @ https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogeratkins/ During the discussion various books, articles, talks and lectures were referenced which can be found below;Benchmark Article on Senate Hearing Feb 2019 https://www.benchmarkminerals.com/blog-archive/benchmarks-minerals-simon-moores-warns-senate-us-a-bystander-in-battery-raw-materials/Henry Sanderson – Volt Rush https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2022/jul/17/volt-rush-by-henry-sanderson-review-winners-losers-in-the-race-to-go-greenGreen Swans: The Coming Boom in Regenerative Capitalism – John Elkingtonhttps://books.google.com.py/books/about/Green_Swans.html?id=KEkTyQEACAAJ&redir_esc=yThe Rules of Contagion: Why Things Spread--And Why They Stopby Adam Kucharskihttps://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/adam-kucharski/the-rules-of-contagion/9781541674332/?lens=basic-books
Did Tesla Battery Day leave you scratching your head? If so, you're in good company - if you consider Emily Hersh good company that is.Alex Grant, Principal of Jade Cove Partners returns to the Minerals Manhattan Project to talk through the article he co-wrote following the announcement that Elon Musk is planning to extract lithium from clay in Nevada using salt and water.Alex explains the different mechanisms that could be plausible explanations for how this saline process could work, as well as some lithium clay basics.For the full article, written by Alex Grant (Jade Cove Partners), Dr. Mike Whittaker (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory), and Dr. Aaron Celestian (Natural History Museum of Los Angeles):https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/inside-teslas-lithium-clay-salt-extraction-process-alex-grant/?trackingId=fl2mJlJdTKCPoukBNrUC4w%3D%3DFollow Alex on Twitter @alexjadecoveRead more of Alex's clever papers on his website: https://www.jadecove.com/
The Minerals Manhattan Project welcomes Teague Egan, Founder and CEO of Energy X.As the world is steadfast in transitioning to sustainable energy, Energy Exploration Technologies Inc. (EnergyX) has a mission to power the future. Founded by serial entrepreneur, Teague Egan, and a team of the world’s leading scientists and sustainable energy veterans, EnergyX is creating revolutionary technology to support the shift to clean energy.https://energyx.com/@energyx@teagueegan
How does someone go from being an astronaut to running the United States Geological Survey?Jim Reilly, Director of the USGS, joins the Minerals Manhattan Project to explain the role of minerals in everyday life. From coal to petroleum to critical minerals, Director Reilly takes us through how humanity has obtained energy has changed over the last 100 years. Renewable energy depends on critical minerals that have to be mined and processed.Director Reilly explains how the USGS coordinates with states and other federal agencies to find and characterize critical mineral deposits, and his vision for the importance of mining to the future of energy. He also discusses the importance of recycling.Director Reilly shares how the USGS coordinates with NASA to map the terrain on Mars to allow spacecraft to land.Check out the USGS resources here - and see if there's a stream gauge near you!https://www.usgs.gov/https://trek.nasa.gov/mars/
Solid state lithium batteries were on everyone's minds last week following the announcement that Volkswagon-backed battery company QuantumScape was going public via a SPAC.Emily Hersh, host of the Minerals Manhattan Project, virtually sits down with Doug Campbell to understand the context of solid state batteries in the race to electrify transportation. We cover:The basics of solid state batteriesDifferent kinds of solid state electrolytesWhat implications solid state batteries would have on mineral supply chainsDoug's view on the QuantumScape SPAC deal"Anodeless"lithium metal batteries vs. lithium metal foilChallenges and timelinesA must listen episode leading up to Tesla's battery day next weekhttps://solidpowerbattery.com/@dougcampbellSP@SolidPowerInc
Howard Klein, aka the Lithium Ion Bull, joins your host Emily Hersh on the Minerals Manhattan Project to dissect how the emergence of a "New Nemaska" looks to the original retail investors.Howard breaks down the bankruptcy process of the infamous Nemaska , as well as how Orion Mine Finance, Pallinghurst, and Investment Quebec finalized a structure to breathe new life - and money- into the now infamous Nemaska Howard gives us a timeline from a rights issue offering through bondholder disputes, as well as how Softbank ended up losing 100 million dollars. Howard explains his opinion on how WeWork collapse peripherally influenced the implosion.This provides a jumping off point to discuss how none of the debt for Nemaska ever went into the ground - and what that can teach equity investors about capital structures for early stage projects.Howard also explains some of those stock terms like SPACs, and how platforms like Robinhood are bringing in a new generation of retail investors.Howard answers the question, are there any stock movements that investors should watch out for?@lithiumionbull https://www.rkequity.com/rk-equity
Your host Emily Hersh of the Minerals Manhattan Project is joined by Cassandra Garrison, Argentina Correspondent for Reuters, to break down just exactly how the United States is planning to counter China's role as the investment bank for mining and infrastructure projects in Latin America.Cassandra has recently published a series of articles focusing on the controversial nomination of hardliner Mauricio Claver-Carone to head the Inter American Development Bank, a role that has traditionally been filled by someone from Latin America.Cassandra explains why Claver-Carone is controversial, and why the IADB (or BID by it's Spanish acronym) matters in the region despite limited lending capacity of roughly US $ 12 billion.Cassandra puts the Claver-Carone controversy into context with the other US initiatives to bring supply chains closer to home, including a newly empowered Development Finance Corporation (DFC), the America Crece initiative, and others.Cassandra breaks down the scope of China's investment in Latin America, and gives us an idea of what would be necessary from the United States to stack up to the famous Belt-and-Road initiative bankrolling infrastructure and mining projects in America's backyard.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-idb-election/latam-calls-grow-louder-to-delay-regional-bank-vote-in-setback-for-trump-pick-idUSKCN2533AUhttps://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/08/26/world/americas/26reuters-latam-usa-bank.html?searchResultPosition=7@CassLGarrison 
Emily Hersh and the The Minerals Manhattan Project catches up with Joe Bryan after his testimony before the United States Senate to understand why all the attention on critical minerals hasn't translated into more aggressive action within the US. Joe shares his path from working with the US Navy to his current roles today in Washington DC, and how US military technology is increasingly reliant on batteries that have logistics support chains.Batteries solve the logistics challenge presented by convoys that transport fuel in hostile territory by widening the range of power sources, and the shift in energy is impacting the US geopolitical position especially with China.
David Livingston, Senior Analyst with Eurasia Group joins the Minerals Manhattan Project to discuss how deeply China dominates critical mineral supply chains, and why that is a result of direct, strategic planning that has taken place over the past two decades.David explains the different stages of supply chains that are dominated by Chinese actors as well as equity ownership via investment. He shares his views on how partisanship and short-term action have shaped US action in the past on these critical minerals supply chains.@DLinDChttp://linkedin.com/in/davidlivingston2020
Tesla has announced that Battery Day 2020 will happen September 22, and rumors of a "million mile battery" have dominated headlines.But what exactly does a"million mile" battery mean? The Minerals Manhattan Project catches up with Sam Jaffe, Managing Partner of Cairn ERA to understand what Tesla's announcements mean for the battery industry.Tesla's announcements matter for the entire battery ecosystem, who will be judged against where Tesla is. Sam breaks down what $ per kwh means as a metric for battery costs, and why the magic US $100/kwh as a parity point with ICE vehicles is an oversimplification.We discuss vertical integration vs. specialization, with Sam predicting that EV companies will not become fully integrated battery makers.Sam shares what he sees as the most important technology developments within the battery (thicker electrodes), and what pack design is doing to improve energy density (cell-to-pack). We get into cathode chemistries and costs of raw materials, including the LFP vs high nickel debate.If you want more Sam, you can follow him on twitter or check out his website:@SamJaffe
A week ago, Alex Grant, Emily Hersh, Carlos Daniel Galli, Daniel Jimenez Schuster, Murray Brooker and chatted for two hours on the question, "Is lithium brine water?"We discussed hydrogeologyenvironmental impactswhose responsibility it is to ensure that a lithium brine project does not impact water availability for humans, animals, and other things which we value.The consensus was that the lithium industry has done a poor job at communicating its water impacts. Also, that decades of hydrogeological data from operating projects should be leveraged to ensure that expansions and new projects don't create unacceptable environmental impacts. Scientific data is key for making these decisions and we need more of it.We believe lithium brine operators should act more like a collaborative industry even if they are competitors. Together, these challenges may be addressable, and the water "question" hanging over brine operations could go away. If that doesn't happen, it could prevent South American brines from capturing much of the growth in the lithium market, which they have already failed to do in the 2010s. This wouldn't be a good outcome, since brines are a low CO2 emission source of #lithium chemicals.If you'd like to read the summary, you can find it here:https://www.jadecove.com/research/islithiumbrinewaterantiwebinar
Of all the battery metals, the cobalt supply chain has been under the most scrutiny due to illegal and unethical mining practices in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC).Trent Mell, the CEO of First Cobalt, joins the Minerals Manhattan Project to dispel some myths about the cobalt supply chain, and discuss the possibility of building up a battery quality cobalt chemical supply chain completely in North America.Trent and Emily discuss the misconception that any cobalt sourced from the DRC is related to child labor or unethical practices. Trent explains why First Cobalt's strategy has focused on beginning with the advanced processing step and getting qualified into the battery supply chain first, and taking on the mining portion second.We discuss how ESG and lifecycle analysis are changing what's expected of mining companies, and why Covid19 may accelerate the electrification of transportation and customers demands for understanding the supply chain.We consider how buzzwords like blockchain simplify the complex process of a more holistic approach to responsible mining.Trent Mell and First Cobalt are a leader in developing North America's ability to compete in battery metals and the battery supply chain.Follow Trent Mell on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/TrentMellFollow First Cobalt on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/FirstCobalt
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