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Author: Mac Bogert

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Change always creates resistance and fear. As we move through this crisis, let us take the chance to re-align our focus to what's important and to what we each can do to create change, empathy, and community.
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Music, toxic HR culture, confounded with structure, 'I cycled through the pandemic,' moral hazard and money to be made, exam strategies and rock songs, and then our conversation took off. How can you not like listening in on a conversation with Peter Cook, who wrote Sex, Leadership and Rock N 'RolI: Leadership Lessons from the Academy of Rock?We're each (and both) proponents of a world where jobs encourage people to bring their brains to work.
We can be successful in business, outwardly merry, envied and admired. At the same time, we may be carrying a corrosive load of trauma, unhealed emotional and spiritual bruises that can lead to broken relationships, thoughts of suicide, and addictions both behavioral and chemical.Spend some time with Michael Padurano and me as we explore the pain that leads to showering in the dark, and the redemption of a healing oasis.
No stone left unturned in this one. Tamsin Astor is fearless, peripatetic (as in she's been all over the place geographically and educationally), and embracing. I would love to get together with all the back2different community, walk together for a while, then just sit and listen. I am very blessed to be part of this wondrous crowd, and Tamsin is no exception.Tamsin and I run through the Irish goodbye, the dance of the universe, being a good faker, feeling too much, change as life, and all wi...
Jim Burke appeared through my connection with Craig James, and each connection enriches the other. I finally got some time with Jim and off we went, looking carefully into kinds of questions, since the questions we ask, not the answers we find, shape our reality. We batted around living through "Have you thought about this?"We agreed that we both don't know nothin' and just had a grand time traveling through our stories together, both having reached a wonderful step in our road and reach...
I hate scratching my head with "I wonder what s/he meant by that?" First of all, I'm an inept fill-in-the-unspoken-part practitioner. Hence my pleasure at getting together with Phil Williams. He wears no barriers and carries no shields. We travel through Stevens-Johnson Syndrome, time in the burn unit, his family and their home, music, and 'the great perhaps,' among other things. We both dreamed of being engineers, the choo-choo kind, but for very different reasons. Nothing is out of bou...
So Ileana and I explore trees, quiet, burls, pushing less and being more, Cra-Cra, chickens, naps, a sky with no airplanes, and "the moment you start laughing at yourself, that's when you're free."Ileana grew up in Venezuela, worked 24 years with Exxon Mobile, then skipped out (like a happy child) to found Colibri Business Development. She helps local and international businesses, especially those in the energy market, with their growth and development. Once she went out on her own, she reali...
Brooke left behind her home country - Turkey - and her successful career at IBM to find a new home - San Diego - and to start her own consulting businesses:purposeful.business is a site for the organizational side of work, yourbestlifeinc.com is for individuals. She made her giant step as she realized that who she was, the singular and only Ozlem, was vanishing. Her humanity and identity were falling away as a requisite for success in the world of corporate homogeneity. She's fun, smart...
Craig James is my trust talker. We never plan nothin'. One of us brings a thought, an idea, an event, a confusion, and then we start bouncing around like the lights from a mirror ball. It's fun, comfortable, and fearless. Without intent, without control, no matter how far we go, the conversation brings us back to where we started. It's not linear and it's not mysterious, it's just true. Give us a listen as we both realize I'm going wonderment. Buckle up!
What a combo of insight and humility is Melissa. I know, that sounds like the first line of a sonnet - she and I tend toward the childlike and the fun. In our time with microphones, we explore -The Rat TicklerWhat's my Cat Hair?Math tests and egg timers"I don't just hire people who are smarter than me, I listen to them."Glial cells - the day shift and the night shiftCortisol overproduction and brain cell erosion - and then we get down to some serious stuff. Please join us as we hik...
In any conversation that includes Roger and Colin, I wait comfortably in silence for their contributions. What I get for a small investment of patience is wisdom, empathy, and self-effacing humor. When I asked Roger to contribute to Gender Crap, he hedged a bit. It turns out what he saw (or heard, I suppose) in the title was very different from my intent, which led to a wonderful conversation followed by his remarkable contribution. Please join us as Roger reads, and the three of us explore, ...
Byron Edgington and Mariah Edgington pay complement to each other very well indeed. They don't complete each others' sentences - a practice I find quickly tiring - but they never fail to leave the other space to help populate the insight of whatever we're trying to understand. They are both and separately devoted to opening up possibilities, and they are part of a growing critical mass of those who are candid, humane, and do not suffer BS gladly. We explore the 60s, legacy, service and more a...
Vura's voices are a joy. His speaking voice, his perspective, and his poetry, each rings straight and true. We both love writing and it brings us such pleasure that we spend a good part of this episode laughing. Vura serves on the Hertfordshire County Council in the UK and has a background in project management, as well as giving his time and energy to youth and recovery work. For two people of different generation, location, and race, we find a foundation of brotherhood, and isn't that what'...
Andee and I discovered a parallel journey of confronting and casting off outmoded ways of thinking - "the lies we chose to believe . . . I just learned it that way." We've both had winding journeys - I won't say career because neither of us has been that linear. And during the bumps and chasms of those journeys, we both found that once we started being clear and honest, The World Just Opened. Enjoy!
I grew up engulfing as much science fiction - and, later, what would be labeled speculative fiction - as possible, so connecting with Joseph Carrabis was a natural. Like me, he loves to write and is fearless in his exploration of ideas, plot, character and things in general. He's served as a mathematician, data scientist, chief research officer and, well, you get the picture. Join us as we talk about the light in their eyes.
Amy Olmedo's life has not been so much a series of forks as a series of switchbacks. Her journey provides a clarity about trauma, change, and courage that will help you take stock, and take aim, at finding and living as yourself. As Oscar Wilde suggested, "Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken."Join us for a wonderful exploration of versions of the truth.
Bruno grabbed me from our first conversation. He is candid, smart, and powered by a strong sense of innovation and empathy. His book, The Art of Compassionate Business, is interesting as well as compelling. I have not finished it - full disclosure - and I'm caught up by his perspective. We talk about qualitative analysis, education, replacing Human Resources (yuck) with Human Assets, a dialogue that circles and goes back to his, and my, central thesis: Treating Employees Well is Good Business.
The Rise of the Ambidextrous Organization is Eric's remarkable contribution to our understanding of a new way of thinking and of doing business. He and I have a romp through thinking, childhood, the creative machine, "you're not your brain," and The Memory Palace. Then we really hit the ground running. He and I connect like a couple of long-lost friends washed ashore together on a deserted isle.Join us. As far as the future is concerned, we both have no doubts that something interesting...
Susan Sneath and I share the experience of working as an actor, a tendency toward being wildly candid, and a willingness to boldly go . . . . I had a tough time with the title for this episode - I'm looking at a list of nine quotes from Susan that would be bang-up for where we went, but I think this is the best to capture her enthusiasm and courage.Acting, health, vulnerability, respect, dignity, hope, life, and more are among the hairpin turns we make together as we try to figure o...
Catherine Fitzgerald is one of the contributors to back2different who had a 'straight' career - linear, climbing the corporate ladder, that kind of thing, and then realized it wasn't working. So off she went, fear, courage, determination and possibilities in hand and made her own thing. She's business-focused, and she has discovered that we can re-define 'profit' to exclude 'dehumanization.'She helps people find their own, and others around them, paths that tie value to humanity, and she unde...
I'm reminded again how much we need, and how quickly we move toward, friendship during this dislocation. Ryan Maloney and I both played in many bands for years and years. We both played in rhythm sections (bass for me and drums for him), which creates a special bond. Most of us know, though we're not aware of it, that without a good drummer and bass player, your band's gonna suck. We also cover life, mental health, isolation, happiness, art, spirit, and the crushing experience of corporate cu...
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