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Drew Nathaniel Keane (who previously appeared on the episode "Samuel L. Bray and Drew Keane on the 1662 Book of Common Prayer International Edition") comes back on the podcast to discuss his 2024 book How to Use the Book of Common Prayer that he authored along with Samuel Bray. We had a great conversation on the contents of the classic Prayer Book.  Shownotes: We also reference, toward the end of the episode: Book V of Richard Hooker's Of the Laws of Ecclesiastical Polity and C.S. Lewis' essay "'Miserable Offenders': An Interpretation of Prayer Book Language" reprinted in God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics. 

Doth Protest host Andrew delves into a recent series done on The Rest is History podcast about Martin Luther. Shownotes: Bernhard Lohse's book Martin Luther's Theology Steven Ozment's book The Age of Reform Erik Herrmann's article "Luther's Absorption of Medieval Biblical Interpretation and His Use of the Church Fathers" in The Oxford Handbook of Martin Luther's Theology

The NIV, the RSV, the KJV? The Women's Bible, the Student's Bible, the Athlete's Bible, the Construction Worker's Bible? There's all kinds of Bibles out there, and where to start?  Former guest of the pod the Rev. Jay Mills joins Andrew and James today. They each discuss the translations and editions of the Bible that they prefer, both for their own reading and for recommendation for others. Note* all the Bibles we are discussing are English language translations. Shownotes: -Jay discusses some of his qualms he has with the SBL Study Bible -Andrew referred to this graph that plots the different Bible translations in regard to what kind of translation. (And like James points out, the graph is not perfect) -Though Andrew overall likes the NRSV translation, here is a link that he referenced that explains some of its issues. Links for the recommended Bibles brought up on this episode (we encourage you to do your own searching of these two, as they can come in hardcover, leather bound, paperback, e-book, etc.): Evangelical Heritage Version (EHV) Holy Bible The Reader's Bible (in different translation & formats) New International Version (NIV) Study Bible (2011 edition) English Standard Version (ESV) Study Bible The Reformation Study Bible (in ESV) Life Application Bible (available in several translations, Andrew recommends NIV for this one) Bible commentary series mentioned: Tyndale Bible Commentaries New International Commentary series (New Testament) Through Old Testament Eyes series Brazos Theological Commentary series

James and Andrew were honored to be guests on podcast Broken Vessels: Theology for a Broken Church hosted by Joshua Simpkins and Brad Kafer.  Check out more content from The Broken Vessels Podcast here.

An unintended multiple-sessions-in-the-making episode. James and Andrew revisit their favorite theologians list from two years ago and make some changes. James also fills us in on the research on church growth and travels he did during his sabbatical. Shownotes  -James referenced Alister McGrath's book Narrative Apologetics: Sharing the Relevance, Joy, and Wonder of the Christian Faith and Justin Holcomb's book On the Grace of God -Andrew referenced: -Armand Nicholi's book The Question of God: C.S. Lewis and Sigmund Freud Debate God, Love, Sex, and the Meaning of Life -Don H. Olive's biography of Wolfhart Pannenberg -Pannenberg's essay "Gospel and Church: The Proposed Concordat between Lutheran and Episcopal Churches in the USA" from the book Inhabiting Unity -Andrew's own article in The Living Church "Who Jesus is and Why that matters for the church: Remembering Carl Braaten" that mentioned Pannenberg's influence on Braaten. -the books by JI Packer:  --Keeping the 10 Commandments --The Thirty-Nine Articles: Their Place and Use Today (with R.T. Beckwith) --How to be a Christian: An Anglican Catechism (with Joel Scandrett)

This is the third and final part of our series where we reviewed a set of statements put forth by the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal. Shownotes: In this episode, Andrew mentions the article "Those Hyper-Politicized Evangelicals" by Timothy Dalrymple.  James mentions the book Scandal of the Evangelical Mind by Mark A. Noll

James and Andrew dive into the Reformational distinction of Law and Gospel followed by a discussion on the 'uses' of the Law as they appear in Calvin's Institutes and in Luther's thought. Shownotes: The quotations on the three uses of the Law from Calvin are from Ford Lewis Battle's translation of Institutes of the Christian Religion Book 2, Chapter 7  Andrew brought up Luther's disputes with the Antinomians and quoted Luther from the book Only the Decalogue is Eternal: Martin Luther's Complete Antinomian Theses and Disputations from Lutheran press (translated by Holger Sonntag) For further reading on the early development of the concept of a 'third use' in Lutheranism, Andrew mentioned the book Law and Gospel: Philip Melanchthon's Debate with John Agricola of Eisleben over Poenitentia by Timothy Wengert.    

Andrew is thankful for his doctoral-supervisor Dr. Paul Hinlicky coming on the podcast. In this episode, Dr. Hinlicky discusses one of his earliest theological interests: Karl Marx's reception of Martin Luther. Enjoy! We are thankful for Queen of the Sciences for cross listing this episode. About our guest: Paul R. Hinlicky is a Lutheran pastor, ecumenical theologian, and author of over a dozen books. He was the Tise Professor Lutheran Studies at Roanoke College for 22 years, and currently the Distinguished Fellow and Research Professor at the Institute of Lutheran Theology.  For a full list of the many books, articles, he has written, visit his website paulhinlicky.com In this episode, we draw heavily from Dr. Hinlicky's article "Luther in Marx" from the Oxford Encyclopedia of Martin Luther. You can view and read this article on Dr. Hinlicky's Articles page on his website above.

Friend and co-host of the past Stephen Burnett joins Andrew to talk about a couple of interesting movements that have happened within, and perhaps on the fringes, of the church, and why they think both of these movements are missing something important. The beliefs and quotations that Stephen was referring to on the Right-Dividers came from this site. Here is an article (Andrew found after the episode was recorded) that offers a very helpful commentary on the verse in 2nd Timothy that is used as the basis for Right-Dividers doctrine, and why the KJV translation may not the best...

We took a break from our normal routine of Reformational history and theology. In this episode, Andrew is joined by Frank Hughes, a friend and colleague in ministry who served in the same diocese as him. Frank is also New Testament scholar who has recently co-written a book with his friend and fellow New Testament scholar the late Robert Jewett titled The Corinthian Correspondence: Redaction, Rhetoric, and History. In this book, Hughes and Jewett argue for a partition theory of 1st & 2nd Corinthians (or, that the letters we have today are actually edited, or redacted, products pieced together after Paul from several smaller letters that Paul actually wrote.) This made for a fun talk considering that Frank is a self-described "unrepentant historical critic" while Andrew sees himself more as "post-critical". Enjoy! Frank Hughes holds a Ph.D. through Northwestern University and Garrett Evangelical Theological Seminary where he studied under Robert Jewett. He also holds degrees from the University of Chicago and Seabury-Western Seminary. He has taught New Testament at numerous institutions including Codrington College in Barbados where he was Senior Lecturer. He currently serves as Priest-in-Residence at the Episcopal Church of the Redeemer in Ruston, LA. Visit his website here Shownotes -The books that Andrew studied in the seminar he mentioned that he took at Garrett were Theology and Ethics in Paul by V.P. Furnish  and Solidarity and Difference: A Contemporary Reading of Paul's Ethics. -The books Frank mentioned that argued for 1st Corinthians being an integral letter were Paul and the Rhetoric of Reconciliation by Margaret Mitchell and Sacra Pagina: First Corinthians by Raymond Collins. The book Andrew mentioned that argued for both 1st & 2nd Corinthians as integral letters was Donald Hall's Unity of the Corinthian Correspondence. -The past studies on partition theories that Frank referred to in the episode were Robert Jewett's article "The Redaction of I Corinthians and the Trajectory of the Pauline School" from the Journal of the American Academy of Religion and Günther Bornkamm's study "Die Vorgeschichte des sogenannten zweiten Korintherbriefes". -Frank mentioned two important works on culture and rhetoric in Paul's time: George Kennedy's The Art of Rhetoric in the Roman World and Judaism and Hellenism by Martin Hengel. The book Andrew mentioned where Luke Timothy Johnson finds some New Testament rhetorical-criticism to be excessive is Constructing Paul: The Canonical Paul, vol. 1    

We offer out apologies for people who listen to us via Spotify, who would not have been able to listen to our last couple of episodes. We initially had an issue with new episodes/updates appearing on Spotify because of our recent podcast host change. We have resolved the issue. This is our recent episode where Andrew and James go further down the list of the "95 Theses" from Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal. Details below. James and Andrew continue down the list of the "95 Theses" from the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal.  SHOWNOTES: Andrew made reference to the North American Anglican article "A Call to Arms to Restore the TEC: The Mission of the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal" and the Infographics video "Was Jesus Actually Resurrected?" James made reference to the following: The Jesus Storybook Bible Mike Bird's book 7 Things I Wish Christians Knew About the Bible William Mounce's book Why I Trust the Bible Daniel Wallace's debate with Bart Ehrman (on YouTube)  

We offer out apologies for people who listen to us via Spotify, who would not have been able to listen to our last couple of episodes. We initially had an issue with new episodes/updates appearing on Spotify because of our recent podcast host change. We have resolved the issue. This is our recent episode with Robert Kolb. Details below. We were blessed to have world-renowned Luther scholar Robert Kolb today on Doth Protest. Dr. Kolb came on to discuss lesser-known figures in Wittenberg who were contemporaries of Luther. We discuss some of his friends and associates (and even some of his enemies), and also what daily life was like in 16th century Wittenberg. You're in for a fascinating discussion. Dr. Kolb is Professor Emeritus of Systematic Theology at Concordia Seminary in St. Louis, Missouri. He has authored many books both on Martin Luther and the Reformation. Here is a list of some of them. Read more about Dr. Kolb's life and work here.

James and Andrew continue down the list of the "95 Theses" from the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal.  SHOWNOTES: Andrew made reference to article from North American Anglican "A Call to Arms to Restore TEC: The Mission of the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal" and the Infographics video "Was Jesus Actually Resurrected?" James made reference to the following: The Jesus Storybook Bible Mike Bird's book 7 Things I Wish Christians Knew About the Bible William Mounce's book Why I Trust the Bible Daniel Wallace's debate with Bart Ehrman (on YouTube)  

James, Andrew, and their friend and fellow Episcopal priest Kyle Tomlin (from previous episodes: Remembering Jim Nestingen and We Need to be Rescued) each discuss the 1953 film Martin Luther and the 2003 film Luther, and which one they each liked better of the two. Andrew then gives an overview of every movie made on Martin Luther from 1911 to 2017 (!) Shownotes: *Birth of a Nation is indeed over 3 hours long (3 hours and 15 minutes to be exact). *Luther's remarks on suicide that Andrew and Kyle refer to is from Table Talks entry 222 (April 7, 1532) found in vol. 54 of the American edition of Luther's Works . Read an excerpt of it here. *Click here for a PDF of the biographical article in German about Walther Nithack-Stahn (the Berlin pastor who opposed World War I, and who wrote the screenplay of which the 1923 silent film Martin Luther was based upon) *The book about Luther on film that Andrew recently came across is Martin Luther in Motion Pictures: History of a Metamorphosis by Esther P Wipfler *The description of the 1911 film Doktor Martinus Luther that Andrew read was from a blog entry from the Bible Films Blog *Here is a biographical article on Eugen Klöpfer, who played Luther in the 1928 movie, and gives more details on his involvement with Goebbels and the regime.

James and Andrew review the "95 Theses to the Episcopal Church", a set of statements put forth by a group called the Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal. They explain their essential agreement with all (or nearly all) the statements but why they could not sign. Visit Episcopal Fellowship for Renewal and view these statements at episcopalrenewal.org

Author, speaker, and New Testament scholar Ian Paul joins the podcast today to break down where we get this concept of "blessings" from, and how blessings were understood in the Bible and in Jesus's ministry. Part of this episode entailed a discussion of Ian's recent blog post titled "What did Jesus do with bread?". Enjoy! The Rev. Dr. Ian Paul is an Associate Minister at St. Nic's Nottingham, and is a member of General Synod- the legislative body of the Church of England. He holds a PhD in New Testament from St. John's College in Nottingham. He serves as the Managing Editor at Grove Books Ltd. and as the Chair of the Tyndale New Testament Study Group. He blogs over at his website Psephizo where you can also find a links for his books to purchase.

This is the second part of our conversation with Dr. Thomas E. Jacobson (the first part was published as the episode "The Nordic Reformation"). In this episode, Dr. Jacobson shares about his interest in the Norwegian Pietist leader Hans Nielsen Hauge (who became the focus of his doctoral dissertation) and how 'Haugean' movement later found its way into North American Lutheranism. Dr. Jacobson and Andrew also discuss Laestadian Lutherans- another spiritual awakening group out of Lutheranism that ended up in North America (and sort of resembles the Amish, but not entirely). Enjoy! Shownotes: -The quote Andrew shared at the beginning of our discussion on Hauge was from a lecture Dr. Jacobson gave on Hauge at Norwegian Lutheran Memorial Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota in April, 2019. Transcript here. -The quote Andrew shared on the Laestadians was from a brief chapter Dr. Jacobson wrote titled "The Apostolic Lutheran Tradition" from the book Most Certainly True: 75 Stories about Lutherans Since 1517.

Dr. Thomas Jacobson, Assistant Professor of History at Institute of Lutheran Theology, comes on the podcast to discuss the Nordic Reformation, or how the Reformation transpired in Norway, Denmark, Sweden, and Finland- both its influence from, and similarities and differences with, the Reformation in Germany and other countries. Host Andrew especially enjoyed his time as he learned a LOT about a fascinating history. This is the first of a two-part episode. Stay tuned for the upcoming episode with Dr. Jacobson "The Nordic Revivalists (and Their Influence in North America" Dr. Jacobson mentions the following works that both influenced him and highlight the importance of the Nordic expression of Lutheranism: Abdel Ross Wentz's A Basic History of Lutheranism in America Conrad Bergendoff's book The Church of the Lutheran Reformation

James and Andrew had a great discussion on "The Sacred Supper of Christ, and What It Brings to Us" from Calvin's Institutes (Book IV, Chapter XVII) The edition of the Institutes we read from is the two-volume Ford Lewis Battles translation from The Library of Christian Classics, Westminster John Knox Press. The quotation at the beginning of the episode is from p. 199 of The European Reformations by Carl Lindberg, 3rd Edition. The secondary source about the understanding of metonymy in Calvin is found at Derek Thomas's Blog 224 from Blogging the Institutes The books that James recommended on the episode are Grace and Gratitude: The Eucharistic Theology by BA Gerrish and Analysis of the Institutes of the Christian Religion by Ford Lewis Battles.

The Rev. Ben Crosby, a priest in the Episcopal Church serving in the Anglican Church of Canada, comes on Doth Protest to discuss why clergy and laity need not be shallow but deeply engage the Scriptures and our theological heritage. (We were a bit salty at times... but all in love.) This conversation was inspired by Ben's recent blog post on his Substack Draw Near With Faith titled "What the Reformation Teaches Us About the Pastoral Nature of Doctrine" (so we get a bit into how Martin Luther can inform us on this topic). The Rev. Ben Crosby is an Associate Priest at Christ Church Cathedral in Montreal and a PhD student at McGill University. He has written for Earth and Altar, The Living Church, and Journal of Anglican Studies.