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Body size diversity in entertainment is an issue that often goes unspoken or ignored by the artistic community, but is deeply felt by those who (literally) don't fit into the ideal. Abby and Luz are two of those people. Join them as they try to find their place in the entertainment industry, interview other plus size creatives, and analyze how body size is portrayed in the media they love - and love to hate. This podcast challenges stereotypes of fat bodies, honors the power of representation, and dreams of how entertainment can evolve to become more inclusive.
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Abby and Luz are back for the final installment in their Fat Trope Deep Dive series! After some life updates and recent internet scandal discourse, they talk tankinis, disability stigma, The Biggest Loser, American exceptionalism, Melissa McCarthy, postfeminism, and Rachel Hollis's famous tiger stripes.
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
Sources we referenced in this episode:
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/26/mum-rachel-hollis-inspiring-viral-bikini-body-photo_n_6946218.html
Millard, Jennifer. “Performing Beauty: Dove’s ‘Real Beauty’ Campaign.” Symbolic Interaction, vol. 32, no. 2, 2009, pp. 146–68. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.1525/si.2009.32.2.146. Accessed 11 Apr. 2024.
Taylor, J., Johnston, J., & Whitehead, K. (2016). A Corporation in Feminist Clothing? Young Women Discuss the Dove ‘Real Beauty’ Campaign. Critical Sociology, 42(1), 123-144. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1177/0896920513501355
Murray, D. P. (2013). Branding “Real” Social Change in Dove’s Campaign for Real Beauty. Feminist Media Studies, 13(1), 83–101. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/14680777.2011.647963
Meeuf, R. (2016). Class, corpulence, and neoliberal citizenship: Melissa McCarthy on Saturday Night Live. Celebrity Studies, 7(2), 137–153. https://doi-org.sussex.idm.oclc.org/10.1080/19392397.2015.1044758
Hannah Rae Leach of Sleepover Cinema once again joins Abby - this time to discuss the then-wildly-controversial body representation of Lena Dunham as Hannah Horvath in Girls (2012). We also cover Lana Del Rey, the fat face of it all, being honest about internalized fatphobia, glamorizing toxic sex, and why this is a Patrick Wilson fancast.
Hannah's website: https://www.hannahraeleach.com/
Sleepover Cinema: https://evergreenpodcasts.com/sleepover-cinema/
Hannah's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realjudygarland
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
This week, Abby and Luz talk about the sad fat person trope, unpacking why media is so obsessed with presenting fat people as pitiable walking tragedies. Some of the examples we discuss include Fat Thor, Bridgerton, Heathers, The Whale, and good old-fashioned freak shows.
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
Sources we referenced in this episode:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/13/obese-depression-weight-psychology-judgment-fat-shaming
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4392295/
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/slim-sad-fat-happy-519034.html
https://www.mamamia.com.au/fat-girl-trope/
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WeightWoe
https://www.rogerebert.com/features/why-cant-sad-be-fat
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pixar-fails-at-body-positivity-in-inside-out_b_7617432
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/notes-on-hollywood/the-whale-and-the-fat-suit-brendan-fraser-darren-aronofsky
Richardson, N, & Locks, A. (2014). 'Monstrosity, enfreakment, and disability.' Body Studies: the Basics. London: Taylor & Francis Group. Available from: ProQuest Ebook Central. [3 April 2024]. https://ebookcentral.proquest.com/lib/suss/detail.action?docID=1753259.
Abby sits down with 8th grade teacher Cait O'Connor to discuss how diet culture and fatphobia are perpetuated in schools - and how teachers can address them. We talk BMI report cards, shotput, school plays, classroom accessibility, and more!
Ditching Diet Culture at School website: https://sites.google.com/view/ditchingdietcultureatschool/home
Digital Library: https://sites.google.com/view/ditchingdietcultureatschool/digital-resource-library
Cait's Twitter: https://x.com/JustTeachingELA?s=20
Cait's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justteachingela/
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
It's time for a big fat catch-up (pun intended)! Luz has life-changing news and Abby recaps her recent travels. Plus we discuss *current events* including but not limited to Avatar: The Last Airbender, One Day, and Amy Schumer's Zionism.
**This is a preview of a Patreon episode. The full episode is on our Quirky Best Friend tier at $3 per month.**
Find the full episode here: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
This week, Abby and Luz take a closer look at the funny fat person trope. Why do we associate fatness so closely with comedy? What is so funny about fat people anyway? And how does this manifest in media representation and our real lives?
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
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Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
Sources:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/29/is-there-a-single-comedian-out-there-not-fatphobic-apart-from-me-of-course
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FatComicRelief
https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/the-science-of-humor-is-no-laughing-matter
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/whats-so-funny-the-science-of-why-we-laugh/
https://www.chortle.co.uk/correspondents/2022/07/01/51074/why_fat_jokes_are_ok
I can't link this one so I'm just citing it: Hole, Anne. (2001). Belly laughs and gut fears: the fat female body as site of comedy [Unpublished doctoral dissertation]. University of Sussex.
Melissa Zimdars (2021) American Housewife and Super Fun Night: Fat Ambiguity and Televised Bodily Comedy, Fat Studies, 10:1, 50-63, DOI: 10.1080/21604851.2019.1643664
Writer and content creator Clara Sterling (of Strike Tea fame!) joins Abby for a wide-ranging discussion about Lizzo, AI, being a fat lesbian, and why she never gets invited out after 7 pm. Clara did an episode on our Patreon during the strike, so we were very excited to be able to actually discuss specific media!
Clara's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thatclarafied?lang=en
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
It's Black History Month, so we're getting into a movie that made fat Black film history (for better or for worse): Precious (2009). Content creator Jade Haylee joins Abby to dish on being called Precious as a schoolyard taunt, Gabourey Sidibe's comment section, Love is Blind, being lifted up, the Mo'Nique of it all, and why white audiences love Black trauma.
***This episode contains discussions of sexual assault, incest, and child abuse as depicted in Precious.***
Jade's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jadehaylee
Jade's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jadehaylee_
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
P.S. sorry this episode is coming out later than usual, I'm on holiday in Portugal right now (BRAG) and got caught up! -xoxo abby
Writer Caitlin Magnall-Kearns (she/they) aka our first repeat guest ever returns to discuss one of our favorite TV shows, Somebody Somewhere! We chat about fat family dynamics, trans representation, the vulnerability of being seen, and what it feels like to have close friends when you've never been in love.
***This episode contains major spoilers for season 2 of Somebody Somewhere.***
Caitlin's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caitmkearns
Caitlin's Twitter: https://x.com/caitmkearns?s=20
Caitlin's website: https://caitmkearns.wixsite.com/website
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
It's time for our annual Valentine's Day episode where we talk about the minefield that is plus size dating! Date Brazen's Lily Womble sits down with Abby to share her best tips on how to build a joyful af dating life and answer your questions.
Pre-order Lily's book: https://www.datebrazen.com/book
Date Brazen Website: https://www.datebrazen.com/
Lily's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/datebrazen
Lily's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@datebrazen
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
From now on you'll all be getting the first 10-15 minutes of our Patreon bonus episodes for free! This one's a recap of all the media we consumed in 2023 and its depictions of fat people, from films to books to unhinged TikToks.
**This preview contains major spoilers for Poor Things and minor spoilers for Barbie.**
Find the full episode here: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
This is the second half of our conversation with model and fat activist Jordan Underwood (they/he)! This time we're getting into media narratives about weight changes and Jordan's experience at adult fat camp.
Jordan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordallenhall/?hl=en
Jordan's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jordallenhall?lang=en
Jordan's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jordallenhall
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
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Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
Abby and Luz are joined by model and fat activist Jordan Underwood (he/they) to discuss weight changes and the intersection of ableism and fatphobia. Jordan shares about his lipidema journey, from massive weight gain to massive weight loss. We also touch on tumblr-era body positivity, being illiterate, dancing on the internet, and Brookline. We had such a long, in-depth conversation that we've decided to split it into two parts, so the second half of our chat will be out next week!
***This episode contains discussions of medical fatphobia and eating disorders, including calorie and weight numbers.***
Jordan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordallenhall/?hl=en
Jordan's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jordallenhall?lang=en
Jordan's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/jordallenhall
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
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Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
Sure, everyone is beautiful and all, but being fat just isn't healthy! Right?? We get into it with molecular biologist Fran aka @fat_positive_fran on TikTok, who explains the factors that determine your body size and unpacks the associations between weight and medical conditions like cancer, diabetes, and heart disease.
***CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussion of disordered eating, including calorie numbers.***
H1N1 study: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23744235.2016.1201721
Sperm tsRNA study: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27340033/
Insulin therapy study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3757533/#:~:text=Basal%20insulin%20therapy%20confers%20improved,maximizes%20the%20potential%20to%20nearly
Fran's resource doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xV5kmxaMzMqk9AKSFsMRrGbpXJ8DuV11_gyQywMrmms/edit?usp=sharing
Fran's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@fat_positive_fran?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
This week, Abby and Luz take you through all the common entertainment fat tropes, as listed on tvtropes.com. On the way, they discuss drag king names, mammy figurines, being stupid, Winnie The Pooh, Abby's childhood toys, and their bad hygiene.
The tropes list we're referring to in this episode can be found here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HighFatIndex
Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
Find us on Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Twitter @morethantracyt!
Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
Abby (she/her) and Luz (they/he) are back for season 4 after a long hiatus, and they're re-introducing themselves by answering the questions they usually ask guests! There's a LOT to catch up on, including (but not limited to) tabloid trauma, Oompa-Loompas, tiramisu, and Idina Menzel.
Support us on Patreon, where there is a bonus extended cut of this episode: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracyt
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Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorris/
Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/
Inspired by Abby's tweets about The Cut's coverage of GLP-1 weight loss drugs, she and Luz sat down with writer and body righteousness coach Sabina McAllister Singwell to discuss hunger in terms of cultural attitudes, media portrayals, and our personal relationships with appetite. If you want many more and ongoing regular episodes like this, be sure to subscribe to our Patreon. Bonus episodes start at just $3 a month!School of Bitchcraft: https://schoolofbitchcraft.com/Bitchcraft and Body Talk (Newsletter): https://bodytalk.substack.com/Sabina's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sobitchcraft?lang=enSabina's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sobitchcraft/reels/Buy Sabina's Book: https://schoolofbitchcraft.com/product/album-2/ Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorrisAbby's Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbyrosemorris_Abby's web site: http://abbyrosemorris.comhttp://www.morethantracyturnblad.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracytFollow @morethantracyt on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok!Logo design by Abby Martino
We're BAAACK on the main feed after a long hiatus! In honor of the new Little Mermaid movie, Abby and Luz (new name just dropped) pay tribute to the OG fat icon, Ursula the sea witch. Specifically, we're breaking down Melissa McCarthy's costume and makeup, Ursula's roots in drag culture, the skinny Ursula Barbie, the Little Mermaid musical, queercoded Disney villains, and surprise (not)!!!! Our own childhood trauma baby!!!If you want many more and ongoing regular episodes like this, be sure to subscribe to our Patreon. Bonus episodes start at just $3 a month!Luz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sillygooseluz/Abby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorrisAbby's Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbyrosemorris_Abby's web site: http://abbyrosemorris.comhttp://www.morethantracyturnblad.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracytFollow @morethantracyt on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok!Logo design by Abby Martino
In a Valentine's Day special episode, Abby and Maya are joined by Jenna Vesper of Date Card Pod and Roses for Every Body, aka the fat Bachelor inclusion campaign! We discuss Roses for Every Body's philosophy, goals, and accomplishments, and why fat representation in reality TV is so rare but so important.Change.org petition: https://www.change.org/p/a-campaign-for-body-diversity-in-the-bachelor-franchise?recruiter=1270331571&recruited_by_id=ec3e96a0-fa82-11ec-bac9-f7a2bbc5abb1&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_medium=copylinkRoses for Every Body on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rosesforeverybody/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3DRoses for Every Body on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rosesforeverybody Roses for Every Body on Twitter: https://twitter.com/roses4everybod?s=20&t=LkoKyvncSvxmAQMo1tHXXwDate Card Pod: https://www.instagram.com/datecardpod/?hl=enMaya's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maya.ballester/Maya's Twitter: https://twitter.com/maya_ballesterAbby's web site: http://abbyrosemorris.comAbby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorrisAbby's Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbyrosemorris_http://www.morethantracyturnblad.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracytFollow @morethantracyt on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok!Logo design by Abby Martino
This week Abby catches up on the culture, the holidays, and the Patreon price drop (our bonus episode tier is now $3)! Then she is joined by Evany Majano aka @toomuchev on TikTok to discuss growing up, dating, and having sex while fat. Apologies for the sound quality on the interview - we did our best but it's far from perfect!Evany's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@toomuchevEvany's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evanymajano/Abby's web site: http://abbyrosemorris.comAbby's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbyrosemorrisAbby's Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbyrosemorris_http://www.morethantracyturnblad.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/morethantracytFollow @morethantracyt on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok!Instagram posts by Maya BallesterLogo design by Abby Martino