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Author: Indigenous Initiatives Office + Indigenous Law Students Association

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28 is a podcast for law students, professors, lawyers and non-law folks who want to learn more about the truth that is necessary for reconciliation. 28 is a collaboration between the Indigenous Initiatives Office and the Indigenous Law Students' Association at the University of Toronto, Faculty of Law. 28 is part of our work in response to Call to Action #28 from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada:"We call upon law schools in Canada to require all law students to take a course in Aboriginal people and the law, which includes the history and legacy of residential schools, the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, Treaties and Aboriginal rights, Indigenous law, and Aboriginal–Crown relations. This will require skills-based training in intercultural competency, conflict resolution, human rights, and antiracism."
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ABOUTIn this episode, law students Elizabeth Hicks and Jason Quinn speak with Professor Douglas Sanderson (Amo Binashii) and Andrew Stobo Sniderman about their new award-winning book Valley of the Birdtail: An Indian Reserve, A White Town, and the Road to Reconciliation.  In the latter half of the episode, Elizabeth checks in with two members of UofT's Kawaskimhon Moot Team: Tomas Jirousek and Hayley VandePol (who are also co-presidents of the Indigenous Law Students Association).This episode was recorded in April 2023.GET HELPIn some episodes, this podcast deals with difficult topics. Here are some resources for @UTLaw Students:URGENTEmergency Services: 911UofT Community Safety Office: 416-978-1485 NOT URGENTManager, Indigenous Initiatives Office: Julie Ann Shepard,julie.shepard@utoronto.caManager, Student Mental Health & Wellness: Law Students can access resources and connect to supports by contacting Chantelle Brown-Kent, chantelleb.kent@utoronto.caMental Health Counseling: Book an appointment with the law school’s mental health counselor by calling 416-978-8030 (select 5) and identifying yourself as a law student.AFTER HOURSMy Student Support Program https://www.studentlife.utoronto.ca/hwc/myssp24/7 1-844-451-9700Good to Talk (student distress line): 1-866-925-5454Toronto Distress Centre: 416-408-HELP (4357)Gerstein Centre: 416-929-5200 MIIGWETCH/NIA:WEN/MARSEE/WELA'LIOQ to this episode's guests: Professor Douglas Sanderson (Amo Binashii), Andrew Stobo Sniderman, Tomas Jirousek, and Hayley VandePol.Thank you to the Indigenous Law Students Association and Indigenous Initiatives Offiice.CREDITSInterviewers:Elizabeth Hicks is a 1L student in the Faculty of Law. She is of Mi'kmaw and settler heritage from Newfoundland and Labrador. She is the Program Assistant at the IIO.Jason Quinn is a 1L student and is of Métis and Ukrainian heritage from Winnipeg, Manitoba (Treaty 1).Music by: Jordan Jamieson, Tyrell King, Mark Green, and Kathy Jamieson. Song mixed by Conlin Delbaere-Sawchuk.Artwork: Miigwetch to the late Jay Bell Redbird for his painting, A Meeting Place for All Our Relations, and to Adam Kouri for assistance with the artwork for 28.Admin: Julie Ann Shepard and Terry GardinerProducer/editor: Elizabeth Hicks
ABOUTIn this episode, law students Elizabeth Hicks and Brianna Morrison speak with Professor John Borrows (Loveland Chair in Indigenous Law) about UofT's response to Call to Action #28: a new mandatory course for 1L students, Indigenous Peoples and the Canadian Legal System. In the latter half of the episode, Elizabeth chats with Tomas Jirousek and Hayley VandePol, co-presidents of the Indigenous Law Students Association at UofT. This episode was recorded in December 2022. GET HELPIn some episodes, this podcast deals with difficult topics. Here are some resources for @UTLaw Students:URGENTEmergency Services: 911UofT Community Safety Office: 416-978-1485 NOT URGENTManager, Indigenous Initiatives Office: Julie Ann Shepard, julie.shepard@utoronto.ca Manager, Student Mental Health & Wellness: Law Students can access resources and connect to supports by contacting Chantelle Brown-Kent, chantelleb.kent@utoronto.caMental Health Counseling: Book an appointment with the law school’s mental health counselor by calling 416-978-8030 (select 5) and identifying yourself as a law student.AFTER HOURSMy Student Support Program https://www.studentlife.utoronto.ca/hwc/myssp24/7 1-844-451-9700Good to Talk (student distress line): 1-866-925-5454Toronto Distress Centre: 416-408-HELP (4357)Gerstein Centre: 416-929-5200 MIIGWETCH/NIA:WEN/MARSEE/WELA'LIOQ to this episode's guests: Professor John Borrows, Tomas Jirousek, and Hayley VandePol. Thank you to the Indigenous Law Students Association and Indigenous Initiatives Offiice.CREDITSInterviewers:Elizabeth Hicks is a 1L student in the Faculty of Law. She is of Mi'kmaw and settler heritage from Newfoundland and Labrador. She is the Program Assistant at the IIO.Brianna Morrison is a 2L/MBA student and is of mixed Cree, Métis, and settler heritage from Edmonton, Alberta (Treaty 6).Music by: Jordan Jamieson, Tyrell King, Mark Green, and Kathy Jamieson. Song mixed by Conlin Delbaere-Sawchuk. Artwork: Miigwetch to the late Jay Bell Redbird for his painting, A Meeting Place for All Our Relations, and to Adam Kouri for assistance with the artwork for 28.Admin: Julie Ann Shepard and Terry GardinerProducer/editor: Elizabeth Hicks
ABOUT In this episode the staff and volunteers of the Giiwedin Anang Council at Aboriginal Legal Services (ALS) tell us about one place Indigenous Law isn’t just surviving, it’s thriving (and spoiler, it’s INSIDE the colonial justice system) and UT Law alum Leslie Anne St. Amour responds to some of the Sh*t Law Students Say.Listeners can support ALS’ work and get a tax receipt by donating via Canada Helps here. DEDICATIONThis second episode of 28 is dedicated to the victims of the genocide perpetrated against Indigenous communities by the churches and Governments of Canada, and especially to all the children who were taken away to residential schools and never made it home. Our hearts and prayers are with all those whose wounds have been, or will soon be, torn open by the finding of unmarked graves on the sites of former residential schools. GET HELP This podcast deals with a lot of difficult topics. Here are some resources for @UTLaw Students: URGENT Emergency Services: 911 UofT Community Safety Office: 416-978-1485 NOT URGENT Email : iio.law@utoronto.ca or  terry.gardiner@utoronto.ca Mental Health Counseling: Book an appointment with the law school’s mental health counselor by calling 416-978-8030 (select 5) and identifying yourself as a law studentAFTER HOURSMy Student Support Program https://www.studentlife.utoronto.ca/hwc/myssp 24/7 1-844-451-9700 Good to Talk (student distress line): 1-866-925-5454 Toronto Distress Centre: 416-408-HELP (4357) Gerstein Centre: 416-929-5200   For folks outside our community, please find your local resources. GET OUTSIDE For episode 2, we encourage listeners in the GTA to check out the park and (when it reopens) the conservatory at Allan Gardens. This beautiful park is bordered by many Indigenous organizations including Miziwe Biik, the Native Women’s Resource Centre and Anishnawbe Health. For our law student listeners, the Ontario Court of Justice’s 311 Jarvis location is a stone’s throw away. If you are able to walk a few kilometers (or jump on the Gerrard streetcar), head east on Gerrard to 1294 (just past Greenwood) and grab a delicious bison burger, a pickerel dinner or a Navajo taco at Tea N Bannock. FURTHER READING ON INDIGENOUS LAW - link coming soon!MIIGWETCH/NIA:WEN/MARSEE We are grateful to our episode 2 guests: Grandmother Dorothy Peters, Knowledge Keeper Clay Shirt, John Brown and Isabelle Brown.Also to Jordan Jamieson, Tyrell King, Mark Green and Cathie Jamieson for Biindegen and to the ILSA students and alumni who contributed to this episode: Tomas Jirosek, Conlin Delbaere-Sawchuk, Daniel Diamond, Leslie-Anne St. Amour and Editor/Producer Flint Patterson. Thanks also to our settler allies Morgan Torstensen and Bernard Carling for feigning the voice of ignorance for educational purposes. Finally miigwetch to the late Jay Bell Redbird for his painting, A Meeting Place for All Our Relations, and to Adam Kouri for assistance with the artwork for 28.  
ABOUTIn this episode we ask former Senator Sinclair why all law students need education on Indigenous and Aboriginal law, why he went to law school, about his former colleague, retired Senator Lynn Beyak, and much more. Dr. Lorna Fadden deals with the myth that "Indigenous people LOVE working on reconciliation for free" and Leslie Anne St. Amour responds to some of the Sh*t Law Students Say. GET HELPThis podcast deals with a lot of difficult topics. Here are some resources for @UTLaw Students:URGENTEmergency Services: 911UofT Community Safety Office: 416-978-1485 NOT URGENTManager, Indigenous Initiatives: Amanda Carling  amanda.carling@utoronto.caManager, Student Mental Health & Wellness: Law Students can access resources and connect to supports by contacting, Terry Gardiner terry.gardiner@utoronto.caMental Health Counseling: Book an appointment with the law school’s mental health counselor Charlie Williams by calling 416-978-8030 (select 5) and identifying yourself as a law studentAFTER HOURSMy Student Support Program https://www.studentlife.utoronto.ca/hwc/myssp24/7 1-844-451-9700Good to Talk (student distress line): 1-866-925-5454Toronto Distress Centre: 416-408-HELP (4357)Gerstein Centre: 416-929-5200 For folks outside our community, please find your local resources. GET OUTSIDEBeing on the land is an important part of learning in many Indigenous communities. For each episode of 28, we will encourage a walk and a place you can sit and listen. For episode 1, we encourage listeners in the GTA to stroll the boardwalk between Woodbine and Balmy Beach in the east end of TO. You can end your walk at the Silver Birch Dog Park and make a few new friends. The ice and snow are gone and, fingers crossed, the 2021 Winter Stations will be constructed soon! For folks who can't or don't want to walk, there are great benches all along the boardwalk. When the weather warms up a bit, we LOVE sitting in front of the RC Harris Water Treatment Plant.DEDICATIONThis first episode of 28 is dedicated to Meruba Sivaselvachandran. Meruba was a second year law student in the combined J.D./M.B.A. program at the University of Toronto and worked tirelessly to fight for equality and justice for everyone. Read more about her legacy and contribute to the causes she cared about here: https://ca.gofundme.com/f/help-continue-merubas-legacyMIIGWETCH/NIA:WEN/MARSEEWe are grateful to our episode 1 guests, Justice Murray Sinclair and Doctor Lorna Fadden, toJordan Jamieson, Tyrell King, Mark Green and Cathie Jamieson for Biindegen and to the ILSA students and alumni who contributed to this episode: Tomas Jirosek, River Sommerhalder, Conlin Delbaere-Sawchuk, Daniel Diamond, Leslie-Anne St. Amour and Editor/Producer Flint Patterson. Thanks also to our settler allies Morgan Torstensen and Bernard Carling for feigning the voice of ignorance for educational purposes. Finally miigwetch to the late Jay Bell Redbird for his painting, A Meeting Place for All Our Relations, and to Adam Kouri for assistance with the artwork for 28.
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