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Let’s Rethink This is taking real conversations about mental illness from behind closed doors right out into the open. Hosted by Abby Berger, episodes will explore the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to manage the symptoms of mental illness, find belonging and purpose in your community, and gain the confidence to live a healthy, quality life.
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Date: April 4, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Part Two: Celebrating Black History with Michelle and Pearl Brief summary of show: We’re back with a second episode talking about the importance of celebrating Black History. In this episode, we talk about some lesser-known icons of Black history and issues of discrimination and stigma in healthcare. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 0:40 - 5:15 Black History Icon Maya A...
Date: March 28, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Integrating Physical & Mental Health with Michael and Janice Brief summary of show: This week, Michael and Janice join Abby to discuss the importance of integrating physical and mental healthcare and how the Healthcare Home program at Independence Center supports members’ health goals. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:13 - 1:52 Michael's background 1:53 - 3...
Date: March 21, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Celebrating Black History with Pearl & Michelle Brief summary of show: This week I am speaking with two Independence Center members, Pearl and Michelle about Black History Month and how members and staff have been celebrating this month. Pearl and Michelle both participate in the member led group, The Conversation Stars Here. This group meets weekly, and their mission is to “promote unity, ...
Date: March 14, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Damele on More Inclusive Mental Healthcare for the LGBTQ+ Community Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Damele Walton on his experience as a black male in the LGBTQ+ community. We discuss the importance of acceptance and some of Damele’s hopes for the future of mental healthcare for the LGBTQ+ community. List of resources mentioned in episode: Independence Center T...
Date: March 7, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Realizing Your Potential with DeAndra Smith Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with DeAndra Smith. DeAndra is a member at Independence Center who first came to IC homeless and in need of a lot of support. Over time, DeAndra realized his potential, got involved with the kitchen unit at the Clubhouse, participated as the member dancer in Dancing with the St. Louis Stars, and now serves on Ind...
Date: February 25, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Putting Housing First with Chris Brannaman Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Chris Brannaman about her new role as the Housing Liaison at Independence Center. This new role focuses on supporting those with behavioral health diagnosis find housing in the community and get connected to resources in the community. She explains the role, some of the other housing supports Independenc...
Date: January 31, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: How to Get Connected to Services at Independence Center Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Leah Sanders about the Independence Center Welcome Center. The Welcome Center is the first point of contact for people looking to enroll in services at IC. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:11 - 3:48 What is the Welcome Center 4:06 - 4:44 How People Find Out ...
Date: January 24, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: A Conversation with Crowd Favorite George Brooks Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Independence Center member, Star Dancer, and winner of the Crowd Favorite award at Dancing with the St. Louis Stars 2022, George Brooks. We talk about George’s background growing up and how he learned he had paranoid schizophrenia. We also talk about Dancing with the St. Louis Stars, a special gift g...
Date: January 10, 2022 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Abby & Marco Talk Dancing with the St. Louis Stars Brief summary of show: Abby& Marco talking about Independence Center’s upcoming Dancing with the St. Louis Stars event happening on January 15th, 2022. The two discuss how the event got its start and why it is such an important event for Independence Center. Learn more about how fundraising at Dancing with the St. Louis Stars supports p...
Date: December 20, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Road to Recovery with Mental Illness Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with Independence Center member, Trenda Davis. Trenda struggled with her mental illness disagnosis for quite some time before seeking treatment and support. Listen to what she has learned along the way about herself and how she is reshaping the common misconceptions about mental illness in the Black community by s...
Date: December 13, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: How Meaningful Work Supports Mental Health Recovery Brief summary of show: Mark & Sebastian from Vail Place in Minneapolis, MN join me to talk about the podcast they are working on launching, how their Clubhouse fundtions, and what they are most grateful for. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:44 - 5:55 Mark's Story 6:13 - 6:55 Sebastain's Story 7:30 - 10:57 Starting...
Date: November 30, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Gabe on Clubhouse Brief summary of show: Today, we're talking to Gabe about his experience in the Clubhouse, working TE, and what's next for him. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:44 - 4:14 Working TE 9:12 - 10:35 Building Relationships at Clubhouse List of resources mentioned in episode: Independence Center Employment Program Social media handles...
Date: November 29, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Juatine Celebrates 6 Months As A Member Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking to Juatine who is a new member and is celebrating 6 months of being a member at Independence Center. She talks about her background and how the Clubhouse and relationships she has built here have helped her manage her mental health. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 2:07 - 4:45 ...
Date: November 22, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Darryl Howard on How Work Supports Mental Health Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking with Darryl Howard, who became a member of Independence Center in 2019. He has since completed a transitional employment position and has his own part time job. He attends Clubhouse when he is not working at his job. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 0:54 – 2:40 Darryl’...
Date: November 15th, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Finding Support at the Clubhouse with Raija Mitchell Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Independence Center member, Raija. Raija has been a member since 2012 and has developed relationships with other members that have been very supportive to her mental health recovery. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 1:19 - 4:42 Raija’s Background&n...
This week's episode is the 25th episode of the Let's Rethink This podcast. We are taking a moment to reflect and think back on the growth of the podcast. This episode features some of Abby's favorite responses to the question "If you could debunk one myth about mental illness, what would it be?"Featured Stories Brittny's Episode Jackie's Episode Karen's Episode Brian's Episode
Date: 10/25/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Importance of Digital Connection with Marco Mino Brief summary of show: I am talking with Marco Mino today. Marco has been a member at Independence Center since 2013. Marco has accomplished a lot during his time with the Clubhouse and recently relocated to Punta Gorda Florida. He participates in the Hope Clubhouse near him as well as virtually with Independence Center. Bullet point...
Date: 10/18/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Increasing Investment in Global Mental Health with Dr. Ingrid Daniels Brief summary of show: Today we are speaking with Dr. Ingrid Daniels, hailing all the way from South Africa. Dr. Daniels is the CEO of Cape Mental Health, the oldest community based mental health nonprofit organization in South Africa. She has a Master's in Social Science – Clinical Social Work. She then completed her PhD in...
Date 10/11/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Raising Mentally Healthy Children with Julie Tang Brief summary of show: Julie Tang is a longtime supporter of Independence Center and founder of an organization called Starting the Conversation which is focused on raising mentally fit children. Since her retirement from the federal government, she has worked more closely with Starting the Conversation to build its impact and reach in the community....
Date: 09/27/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Using Outreach to Build Community Brief summary of show: We are talking to Cassandra Burries and Naomi Holland today about the 3700 project, a disease management project through the Missouri Department of Mental Health. Cassandra is a member and a Board member at IC and Naomi is a staff leader for 3700. We are going to talk about both of their backgrounds, how they first got involved with 3700 proj...
Date: 09/27/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: A Phoenix Rising: Relearning to Live with Mental Illness Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with long time Independence Center member, Steve Whyte. Steve has had a long journey with his mental health recovery and describes the journey like a phoenix rising from the ashes. We are going to spend some time getting to know him, learning about the importance of safe and supportive housing for tho...
Date: 09/20/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Addressing Global Mental Health with Jack Yatsko Brief summary of show: Today I am speaking with Jack Yatsko, Chief Operating Officer at Clubhouse International. Jack’s role includes overseeing the programs at Clubhouse International, new clubhouse development, training, and supporting training bases. He has been in the social work field for his entire career. He has a master's in Social Work a...
Date: 09/13/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Living with High Functioning Depression & Anxiety Brief summary of show: Today I’d like to introduce Danielle Rose. Danielle is a program participant or what we refer to as member at Independence Center. Danielle has recently returned to work after a seven-year gap in her employment. We are going to be talking to her about her experience as a member of Independence Center, how and wh...
Date: 09/06/2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: The Power of Performance Art in Managing Mental Health Brief summary of show: Today we are talking with Angelo Blanchard, Katie Hayes and Paula Heller. Katie is the outreach coordinator at STAGES St Louis. If you have not heard of Stages, it is a local theatre that is committed to preserving and advancing the art form of musical theatre through excellence in performance and education. Paula is a lic...
Date: August 30, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: A Better Way: Moving from Addiction to Mental Wellness with Brian Weddington Brief summary of show: Today I’d like to introduce Brian Weddington. Brian is a newer member at Independence Center, coming into services in 2020. Since joining Independence Center, he has become a peer specialist, completed his HiSET, enrolled at UMSL, moved into his own apartment, and has started interviewing for different...
Date: August 23, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Zero Suicide with Kirsten Sierra and Maria Needham Brief summary of show: We are going to be talking about Zero Suicide, which promotes safer care for those at risk of suicide. Zero Suicide believes that suicide is preventable and that the only acceptable number of losses due to errors in quality of care is zero. Today I am speaking with Kirsten Sierra, who has both her MSW and LCSW and w...
Date: August 16, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 014 The Conversation Starts Here Brief summary of show: Today I am talking one of Independence Center’s Community Support Specialists, Jordan Palmer. Jordan has been working as a CSS for 3 years and is current pursuing her masters in social work at Washington University in St. Louis. Aside from managing a caseload, Jordan also is very involved with Independence Center’s Dive...
Date: August 9, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Black Girl, Bleu Brief summary of show: Today I am talking to Sharee Silerio. Sharee Silerio is a St. Louis-born, raised and based writer, director and producer who focuses on telling stories where Black women + girls exist as full human beings on screen and feel seen, heard, loved and affirmed beyond the screen. She recently completed her fourth short documentary Black Girl, B...
Date: August 2 , 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 012 Young at Heart Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with two people from Independence Center about mental health supports for older adults. Pat Marshall is a team lead at the Clubhouse and Karen Cox- Miller is a long-time member. Pat and Karen help to co-lead a group at IC called the Young at Heart group. This group is specifically for members 55 and older to socialize, c...
Date: July 26, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 011 Let's Talk Trans, Part 2 Brief summary of show: The second part of this episode focuses on mental health statistics for trans folks, how MTUG supports the transexpansive community in and around St. Louis, and how you can get in contact with Sayer and the people at MTUG. Bullet points of key topics & timestamps: 0:49 - 5:55 Intersection of Mental Health and...
Date: July 19, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 010 Let's Talk Trans, Part 1 Brief summary of show: Today we are talking to Sayer Johnson from the Metro Trans Umbrella Group or MTUG. Sayer started MTUG in 2015 with the intention of bringing together the transgender community in the St. Louis Metro Area, the organization now serves all individuals that fall under the “umbrella term” of Trans which includes but is not limited to...
Date: July 12, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 009 Living & Working with A Mental Illness Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with an old friend, Gabriella Carbone. Gabriella has her bachelor of arts in public and community services studies at Providence College and completed her master of social work from Hunter College. She now works with unhoused adults at the Bowery Mission in New York City assessing for need, creat...
Date: July 5, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 008 Local Artist Discusses Mental Illness & Education Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Independence Center member, Angel. Angel has been a member at IC for 4 years and has grown so much. We worked on a project together back in 2018 called the 40 stories in 40 days project where we created short videos of members sharing their life stories and publi...
Date: June 28, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 007 Legal Advocacy for Adults with Mental Illness with Legal Services of Eastern Missouri Brief summary of show: Today, I am so excited to be speaking with Ayana Dobos, who is a staff attorney at Legal Services of Eastern Missouri. Ayana has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice & Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness. She completed her Juris Doctorate at Emory Univers...
Date: June 21, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 006 How Employers Can Support Those Living with A Mental Illness Brief summary of show: Today I am talking with Stephanie Girard, Director of Human Resources at Chase Park Plaza Royal Sonesta Hotel and Chris Hampel, member at Independence Center and Private Residence Engineer at the Chase Park Plaza. We’re going to be talking about how companies can help those living with a men...
Date: June 14th, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 005 Developing Mental Health Urgent Cares with SSM Health Brief summary of show: I am very excited to be talking with Michelle Schafer, Regional Vice President of Behavioral Health at SSM Health. Michelle oversees the operations of the entire Behavioral Health Service Line at SSM including inpatient and outpatient care for geriatric, adult, adolescent and child populations, e...
Date: June 7th, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 004 Systemic Approaches to Behavioral Health Brief summary of show: Today, I am talking with Behavioral Health Network of Greater St. Louis (BHN) and we have three great guests on the show. Sally Haywood is the Senior Director of Strategic Initiatives, Rose Jackson-Beavers is the Director of Faith Initiatives, and Christie Becker-Markovich is the Director of Recovery Initiativ...
Date: May 31, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Episode 003 Supporting Care Partners with NAMI Brief summary of show: Today we are going to be talking with Jackie Hudson, former staff member and longtime NAMI volunteer and Angela Berra, Director of Programs for NAMI St. Louis about what care partners wish they knew when a friend or family was diagnosed with a severe mental illness. We talk about first person experiences of supporting...
Date: May 24, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Bob Harvey & The Power of Community 002 Brief summary of show: This week I am talking with Bob Harvey, founding director of Independence Center, a nonprofit in St. Louis serving adults with mental illness. Bob talks about how he got his start in mental health, the formation of Independence Center, the importance of returning to work, and what the future of mental health looks like. Bul...
Date: May 17, 2021 Name of Show: Let’s Rethink This Episode title and number: Brittny Adams on Living with a Mental Illness 001 Brief summary of show: Introducing, Let’s Rethink This, a podcast exploring the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethin...
Introducing Let’s Rethink This, a new podcast about mental illness. Hosted by Abby Berger, episodes will explore the complex corners of mental illness by having candid conversations with people living with a severe mental illness and mental health providers on how mental illness affects all aspects of life including education, employment, housing, relationships and so much more. Let’s Rethink This is bringing you real stories of the challenges of mental illness along with real inspiration to ...
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