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Welcome to Cultivating Second Chair Leaders: Conversations about living out servant leadership in the second chair. This is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. This podcast is made possible by KINDLE, an incarnational ministry that encourages, prepares, and supports a growing number of God’s people as they live out their baptismal calling to be Christ-like servant leaders in their congregations, homes, workplaces, communities, and the world. To learn more about the organization and support our work go to kindleservantleaders.org.
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On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we take a look back at all of Season 4 episodes, guests and share reflections and learnings from the insight on 2nd chair leadership as well as the Cultivating group practices. Our guest, Katy Crawford (@katycraw11) helps us reflect on various quotes and responds to questions which help all of us to grow as Christ-like servant leaders. Listen until the end and learn how you will have the opportunity to enter to win a free journey guide! Resources mentioned in today’s episode: “Life Together, The Classic Exploration of Christian Community” by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 1954. Lutheran Family Service - https://lutheranfamilyservice.org/Learn more about Christ-like Servant Leader Journey GuidesGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend!  Leave us a review, contact Emily and get your free Christ-like Servant Leader Journey Guide! Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Nurture Collaboration which is working together to achieve a group’s mission and vision. Today our guest is Rev. Dr. Gerard Bolling, who provides important insight about what it means to be part of a team, the value of relationship between a first and second chair leader, and how his local congregation is working together to engage the community with a microschool. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: The Impartial Church Podcast Bethlehem Microschool - CCLS Academy Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Manage Anxiety and Conflict, which is defined as applying Biblical means to both maintain healthy relationships and restore broken ones. Our guest, Brian Amey shares how knowing the sources of conflict can help reduce anxiety and evaluate our priorities when it comes to supporting the bigger picture as a 2nd chair leader. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: “Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader” by Susan Steege, 2016.“The Peacemaker” by Ken SandePeacemaker Ministries: https://www.peacemakerministries.org/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work! Learn more about the Classic KINDLE and Recent Grads initiatives, which begin cycles in Fall 2024. Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Promote Communication. Today’s episode is formatted a little differently as we hear a conversation between the leadership staff of First Trinity Lutheran Church (@firsttrinity) in Tonawanda, New York, including Jason Christ (@jasonthedce), Sue Steege (@suesteege) and Chuck Whited. We listen in as they discuss what it means to speak the truth in love, live out healthy communication patterns, and discuss specific tools that help them carry out the mission of their congregation. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: “Life Together, The Classic Exploration of Christian Community” by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 1954. “Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader” by Susan Steege, 2016.Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work! Click on ‘Podcast’ on the main page to find the discussion guide and Communication Cascade referenced in today’s episode. Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of  Identify Common Vision: Facilitate groups as they discover their common mission and vision. Our guest, Krista Young (@klyoung29), shares how regardless of cultural context, relationships and trust are the key elements to creating partnerships that move forward with a common vision. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: “Life Together, The Classic Exploration of Christian Community” by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, 1954. “Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader” by Susan Steege, 2016.“When Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty Without Hurting the Poor . . . and Yourself” by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert, 2014“Toxic Charity, How Churches and Charities Hurt Those They Help, And How to Reverse It”  by Robert D. Lupton, 2012Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will discuss the importance of grounding our identity as God’s Child as the baseline for establishing Christian community. Our guest, Mary Stafford-Nunez (@marbearo528) shares the joys and challenges of what genuine community engagement looks like in both her local and international ministry contexts. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams, by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Kindling the Heart of the Christ-like Servant Leader by Susan Steege, 2016.The Chosen SeriesGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
Welcome to Cultivating Second Chair Leaders: Conversations about living out servant leadership in the second chair! In Season 4, we will explore Spirit-led practices that unite people for service to Christ and the world. When we invest in building the community, identifying common vision, promoting communication, managing anxiety and conflict and nurturing collaboration, we flourish in Christian community as God intended.  This is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. Karpenko Institute for Nurturing and Developing Leadership Excellence (KINDLE) provides a model for living out Christ-like servant leadership. For the 2nd chair leader, there is significant value in the ability to lead up, down and across in the building and nurturing of relationships. This podcast is made possible by KINDLE, an incarnational ministry that encourages, prepares, and supports a growing number of God’s people as they live out their baptismal calling to be Christ-like servant leaders in their congregations, homes, workplaces, communities, and the world. To learn more about the organization and support our work go to kindleservantleaders.org. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we will share a Cultivating Faith and Health impact stories from members of our community, as they have spent the last few years diving deeper into these practices and their application in their lives and in their ministry settings! Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this bonus episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we listen to a webinar from March 2023,  “A Foot in Two Places: Engaging and Equipping the Coming Army of Volunteers.” This presentation provides the opportunity to rediscover your baptismal calling and help others to do the same in the next season of life. You will learn the importance of spending intentional time to reorder priorities; consider God's purpose for the years ahead, and serve your congregations, homes, and communities! Jill Hasstedt, KINDLE community member, leads this conversation. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: A Foot in Two Places Webinar HandoutLearn more about KINDLE Next CallingsWant to view this webinar? Go to our website to request it. Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we will share a handful of Cultivating Individual impact stories from members of our community, as they have spent the last few years diving deeper into these practices and their application in their lives and in their ministry settings! Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we look at the practice of Encourage One Another, which includes the importance of positive recognition, celebrating the accomplishments of others and appreciating the impact of the practice itself. With guest Sara Wilson (@familyfaithrhythms), we will explore this topic from the perspective of a Christ-like servant leader in the home, especially in helping our children develop relationships with Jesus and encourage them to be leaders too. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Visual Faith® Ministry - Blog, Practices, Events, Shoppe (free resources)!Kindling the Heart: Nurturing Young Christ-like Servant Leaders, Family Edition, 2020. Learn more about Thrivent Action TeamsGo to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we talk about the value of cultivating high school students as individuals and challenging them to develop Christ-like servant leadership skills. Our guest, Tyler Tollefson (@ttollefson) shares about the importance of growing in our ability to communicate and have critical conversations, a skill set important to teach to younger generations as well. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. “How to Lead When You're Not in Charge: Leveraging Influence When You Lack Authority” by Clay Scroggins Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders",  we explore the practice of Equip to multiply, which includes several intentional actions that lead to the development of well rounded Christ-like servant leaders. Today we will dive deeper into the coaching skill and why it’s such a valuable tool in leadership development. KINDLE’s Executive Director, Michelle Pavasars (@mpavasars) returns and has invited her friend and coaching connection, Cindy Scott (@bridgescoaching) to share her wisdom in this realm of leadership development. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Bridges Coaching: https://www.bridgescoaching.net/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review! Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders", we explore what it means to go from "me" to"we" as leaders voice the vision, especially as it relates to the development of Jesus' followers as servant leaders.  Our guest, Peter Couser (@petercouser) shares his perspective serving both as a 2nd chair and now a 1st chair pastor and the challenges of voicing a vision for a mission plant (@newthing.live) in the middle of a pandemic. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. “Leading When God is Moving” by Wayne Schmidt “Canoeing the Mountains” by Tod Bolsinger “The Practice of the Presence of God” by Brother Lawrence Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders," we talk about what it truly means to set the example as a Christ-like servant leader, valuing the time to cultivate relationships. We discuss what it looks like to “Lead in a calm and reflective manner, acting with integrity and staying connected with others.”  Our guests Brian (@theaveragedisciple) & Victoria Weaver (@theaverage_mama) share insight on setting the example in marriage, as parents, and as leaders in their congregation.  Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Learn more about the DISC assessment Check out Brian & Victoria’s podcast and resources at: The Average Disciple Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this first episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, season 3, we introduce the overall theme of leadership, starting with the example Jesus set during his earthly life for how to be a servant leader. We will explore what building and nurturing relationships looks like for the Christ-like servant leader in the second chair with our guest, Lisa Hellyer (@hellyer_lisa)  as she shares insight from her personal and professional experiences. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quotes from the book, “The 360 Leader: Developing Your Influence from Anywhere in the Organization'' by John Maxwell, 2005, 2011. Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High by Joseph Grenny Lutheran Hour Ministries Mission - https://www.lhm.org/about/ Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  and to learn more about the organization and support our work!Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
Welcome to Cultivating Second Chair Leaders: Conversations about living out servant leadership in the second chair! In Season 3 of ‘Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,’ we will explore the importance of investing in the processes of developing and equipping fellow Christ-like servant leaders including active listening, equipping and conversation along the way.  This is your time to connect in community, find direction, and find freedom to focus on your identity as a Christ-like servant leader in the second chair. Karpenko Institute for Nurturing and Developing Leadership Excellence (KINDLE) provides a model for living out Christ-like servant leadership. For the 2nd chair leader, there is significant value in the ability to lead up, down and across in the building and nurturing of relationships.  This podcast is made possible by KINDLE, an incarnational ministry that encourages, prepares, and supports a growing number of God’s people as they live out their baptismal calling to be Christ-like servant leaders in their congregations, homes, workplaces, communities, and the world. To learn more about the organization and support our work go to kindleservantleaders.org. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, we have a bonus conversation with season 2 guest Heidi Goehmann about her new book, "Emotions and the Gospel," and how we can use processing tools for our emotions and enhance our ability to serve as Christ-like servant leaders in the second chair. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Order Heidi’s newest book: “Emotions and the Gospel Created for Connection” Check out helpful articles, blog posts and podcast episodes created by our guest at  www.heidigoehmann.com.   Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  to learn more about the organization, and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders, we will recap season 2 of the podcast, using episode discussion guides, which highlight quotes and questions on the topics of Cultivating Health. Joining our host, Emily Phoenix, who will take a turn in the guest chair are Season 1 guest, Daniel Baker (@bakerthrive) and listener Angela Erickson (@Squidget1248), two members of our KINDLE community! Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. The Impartial Church podcast via Lutheran Hour Ministries‘The Color of Compromise’ and ‘How to Fight Racism’ by Jemar Tisby Learn about our Classic KINDLE training program Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org  to learn more about the organization, download an episode discussion guide and support our work!Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
On this episode of Cultivating Second Chair Leaders we will take a look at the big picture and overall impact of Cultivating Health as we pursue spirit filled practices as Christ like servant leaders. We will dig into the question: What does it mean to lead an abundant, integrated life as a second chair leader? Our guest, Jim Bradshaw, also a KINDLE board member, provides insight and wisdom on well being, from his years of experience in Kansas, serving second chair leaders in a variety of ways. Resources mentioned in today’s episode: Quote about Second Chair Leaders “Leading from the Second Chair Serving Your Church, Fulfilling Your Role, and Realizing Your Dreams '' by Mike Bonem and Roger Patterson, 2005. Ordering Your Private World, by Gordon MacDonaldEmotionally Healthy Discipleship - Pete ScazzeroKansas District, LCMS, Church Worker Wellness (and many addt. resources) Concordia Plans (health insurance provider)Go to KINDLE’s website to meet our board, learn more about the organization, including our programs and download an episode discussion guide! Connect: Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders Email: emily@kindleservantleaders.org and we may share your story in the future! Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review. Connect with us! Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way! Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/
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