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Author: Jenny Ackland and Justine Kiely-Scott

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A podcast for parents and caregivers of children and adolescents. Join co-founders of Sex Education Australia, Justine Kiely-Scott and Jenny Ackland, as they discuss the topics parents can find difficult to talk about with their children. They cover WHAT topics can (or should) be talked about, WHY it's important that parents should be talking with their kids, and HOW they can manage these conversations. Each episode, Justine and Jenny take off their 'teacher hats' and put on their 'parent hats' to chat a bit more informally about the various challenges and delights of educating young people about sexuality and relationships, and a whole lot more.

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It's the 2023 recap, with a cameo appearance from Justine dog Ollie (there was a thunderstorm approaching, listen to the end to hear his sign off!)In this episode we talk about the podcast, this year's season, the guests we've had on and our top 5 episodes for the year.We get into answering tricky questions, because that's what a lot of parents will be doing over the summer here in Australia, where there might be more time to check in with kids, and time too to have that conversation you've b...
In this episode, Justine and Jenny talk feelings. We all have them, and sometimes they can be a challenge. Even as parents and caregivers, we still have our feelings while trying to help support our children. We discuss why it's important to teach and talk about emotions, because as adults we need to be able to manage/self-regulate and express emotions appropriately, and we want to raise children into humans who are ok to be around. We chat strategies and structures and why those big emotiona...
In this wide-ranging discussion, Jenny speaks with one of our fabulous educators. Rebecca is in her fifth year working for Sex Education Australia. She is secondary-trained as a teacher and hadn’t taught sex ed before joining our company. While working with SEA, Rebecca has dabbled with all the grades but generally works in Year 5 and above, and at the secondary level. She has also done a bit of teacher training around inclusive languageWe talk:Gender roles, parenting roles and balancing chil...
Justine and Jenny talk ‘nuts and bolts’ – safer sex, STIs and contraception. We know how important it is for young people to learn how to take charge of all aspects of their health -- including their sexual health if that becomes part of their lives -- as they're growing up. Having a conversation with your young person is not promoting anything other than the idea that you want them to be informed in a way that will help them be healthy, well and safe. Research tells us young people want to h...
Justine chats with Kardie Whelan, a disability and community educator at Sexual Health Victoria. Kardie has worked as a sexuality educator for people with cognitive disability for the past 15 years, and in a variety of disability settings including special schools and TAFEs.Mentioned:About language – what to use and what not to useperson first approach to languageAssumptions people shouldn’t make about a person with a disabilityChildren and young people with a disability are at greater risk o...
In this episode, Justine and Jenny continue their chat about how to answer those tricky questions that we can get as parents and caregivers from our children. In the classroom, our team run an activity called Anonymous Question Box and in this episode we look at some more of those Year 5/6 (age 10-11 years old) questions.As soon as they go out into the world we need to arm them. If we’ve never discussed things with them, then they won’t come to us. They are going to hear things from other peo...
Justine and Jenny answer some of the tricky questions that their team has received in schools, to show parents and caregivers how to approach the questions that can come from children towards the end of primary school. As soon as they go out into the world we need to arm them. If we’ve never discussed things with them, then they won’t come to us. They are going to hear things from other people - right and wrong - and they will hear about things that confuse them. They may see things too,...
In this episode Justine talks with Holly-ann Martin, founder of Safe4Kids, which she established in 2011, to work towards child abuse prevention. In 2016, Holly-ann was inducted into the WA Women’s Hall of Fame, and some people may not know but she’s a very accomplished swing dancer. Holly-ann is working towards the reduction of child sexual abuse and so all her programs are built around the concepts of protective education. With 88% of pornography showing violence against women, 45% of all c...
In this episode, Jenny and Justine reprise their chat about pornography (look up the previous episode which is for parents of younger, primary-aged children); but this time, focusing on how parents of secondary-aged children can approach the topic, answer questions, manage exposure incidents and inform themselves as part of preparing. ‘It’s not if but when’ is the catch-cry.Links to research mentioned:Common Sense Media: ‘Teens & Pornography’ (2022) https://is.gd/4wCwP5UK Children’s Commi...
In this episode, Jenny talks with global thought leader Kirra Pendergast, who is the founder and CEO of Safe on Social. Kirra has worked at the cutting edge of Information Technology and Information (Cyber) Security since 1991. Safe on Social is now the largest, most trusted, and in-demand cyber safety education and training group of companies globally. Kirra splits her time between the Asia Pacific Headquarters in Byron Bay, Australia, and Safe on Social's UK and European Headquar...
Our last episode for 2022, so we look back at how the year has gone.Topics we cover:what parents can think about over the break - maybe have that convo you've been putting offfocus and attention (and the importance of both)the idea of getting kids reading over the summermore on managing screens - why not consider a 'Summer Screen Contract' for your family?most recent screen research - it's not good news (links below)what the 'hot topics' this year have been (spoiler: most gender identity)the ...
In this special episode, Justine interviews teacher and mentor Linda Stade about a topic that is super relevant to parents and children of all ages: friendships. Some of the topics covered are: parent engagement; how to skilfully help your child manage their friendships; are girls' friendships more complex and volatile than boys'?; girls and anxiety; the 'friendship cyclone' (a term created by Rebecca Sparrow); 'relational aggression'; advice to parents on when to step in and when to step bac...
This is an episode for parents and caregivers who are: worried their kids might see porn / their kids HAVE seen porn and they don't know what to do. We'd also love to hear from anyone who has dealt with this tricky subject with success (email us thatsexedpodcast@gmail.com).In this episode, Justine and Jenny talk about how confronting it is when you learn your child has seen sexual material online. Topics covered: gaming and grooming; what we've dealt with as parents ourselves; what pare...
This is probably an episode for parents/caregivers of teenagers, but some families will be having conversations about virginity with their upper primary school children. In this episode, Justine and Jenny look at the outdated notion of 'virginity' and how we can better talk about this concept in a way that is less hetero-centric, more inclusive (what about people who have no interest in sex, and might identify as asexual?) and with less focus on a single sexual act being perceived as som...
Justine and Jenny look at friendships. As Justine says in the episode: As a parent, as a human, we've got to really think about things because friendships can be awesome, amazing and make your heart sing... but they can also be devastating and 'leave little scars in our lives'. It's a complex world for sure, and not something we work out necessarily before the age of 18! Justine reports too that things get particularly gnarly around 8 or 9, when the feelings around friendships become particul...
In this episode, Justine and Jenny talk about how to get into this potentially awkward topic with your teenager. Yes, it will likely be uncomfortable for all concerned -- even the most seasoned and open of us sex education people can find this difficult. Some of the things touched on:Why we put it off / asking them questions about their peer group / how to get started / the importance of cross-gender chats, so fathers talking to daughters, and mothers to sons (if that's your family set-up) / ...
Justine and Jenny chat all things puberty. Do you need to have a chat with your young person about puberty? Are they asking lots of questions and you don't quite feel equipped or confident to answer them? We talk We our memories of puberty, we look at some anonymous questions from Year 5-6 students, acknowledge the importance of empathy and also the importance of parents being the 'go-to person' for their child. Other topics covered: periods, wet dreams, vaginal discharge Also: see our earlie...
In this episode, Jenny speaks with Ingrid Laguna, renowned children's writer, and co-author of new book Kit and Arlo Find a Way: Teaching consent to 8-12 year olds. There'd be a lot of parents who would think 'What? Teaching consent to my 8 year old? What are you talking about!' But the thing is, in this book, all the scenarios are age-appropriate and relevant to the lives of children of exactly this age. There are no sexual contexts included, but what is included are situations commonly expe...
In this episode -- recorded as Justine and Jenny's first, so please excuse that! -- the focus is why do parents and schools feel nervous when it comes to sex ed? What are we scared of as a society? Research shows that young people receiving information about their bodies, sex and relationships doesn't accelerate interest or change behaviour. Research tells us instead that children who receive accurate, comprehensive, age-appropriate information from a trusted source will be more likely ...
In this episode, Justine and Jenny chat all things periods. Do you need to have a chat with your young person about menstruation? Are they asking lots of questions and you don't quite feel equipped or confident to answer them? We recommend a good book or two but also conversations are always the best way to show your child you are up for a chat about anything they may be wondering or worried about. Please visit our website sexeducationaustralia.com.au where you can listen to our other episode...
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