Too Much Music

 Greg and Alison are back...to talk about themselves! In this episode, they'll tell you about how they met, why they're not still married, and what things are like today. Don't worry, you'll hear plenty of music talk along the way. Doctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

 Alison & Greg talk about how we hear, understand, and define the identity of a piece of music. After a bit of a dive into the great music thinkers of the 20th and 21st century and their work on how our minds hear and process music, they jump into the specifics of what musical parameters go into identity, and how we can define and codify those parameters so that they're available to an AI system.Doctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

Today we take a look back at the music technology underpinning a startup co-founded by our hosts in the early 2010s. With the motto "Use Music to Find Music" , Clio Music was perhaps the first commercially available search engine to speak the language of music and has been a part of TiVo since 2012. Listen in as our intrepid hosts share insights from that experience as well as ways they see this technology playing an important role in the future of music AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at https://www.toomuchmusicpodcast.com/More from your lovely hosts:Greg: https://gregwilder.comAlison: https://alisonwilder.net/Doctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

Where does music live? Is it the sound in the room? Is it in your brain? Or maybe it lives on paper? In order to repeat it, we need to create systems to write it down, and ultimately represent music as information or data. But what gets lost when we do this?Writing music down seems straightforward enough. But as we’ll see, the process of reducing the rich experience of music to dots on paper isn’t as simple as jotting down a grocery list or even writing down your innermost thoughts about last night’s dreams.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at https://www.toomuchmusicpodcast.com/More from your lovely hosts:Greg: https://gregwilder.comAlison: https://alisonwilder.net/Doctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

 The first sign that the Wilder marriage might be in trouble happened before the wedding: it was a knock-down, drag-out fight about whether there's a fundamental difference between music in the European art music tradition and music in the American blues tradition. (We can all agree that this is a severely nerdy topic to fight about.) Eventually, after years of testy conversation, Alison conceded on this one -- Greg and Alison now agree, they're different. But how?This two (maybe three?!)-part episode delves into the specific traits and characteristics that make art music and pop music different from each other.  Part one focused on the musical characteristics, while part two dives into culturally-driven differences. Greg's website: https://gregwilder.comAlison's website: https://alisonwilder.netDoctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

The first sign that the Wilder marriage might be in trouble happened before the wedding: it was a knock-down, drag-out fight about whether there's a fundamental difference between music in the European art music tradition and music in the American blues tradition. (We can all agree that this is a severely nerdy topic to fight about.) Eventually, after years of testy conversation, Alison conceded on this one -- Greg and Alison now agree, they're different. But how?This two (maybe three?!)-part episode delves into the specific traits and characteristics that make art music and pop music different from each other.  Part one focuses on the musical characteristics, while part two will dive into culturally-driven differences. Greg's website: https://gregwilder.comAlison's website: https://alisonwilder.netDoctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

Since Alison and Greg are a formerly-married couple, they know each other's strengths and weaknesses. In this two-part series, they're using that knowledge for good, and creating challenges tailor-made to help the other person become a better musician -- and who knows, maybe a better person along the way!This episode covers Greg's challenge to Alison: to craft a drum sound for her upcoming Blix Byrd album by testing out a few different sounds. This is opposed to her usual gut-instinct way of just going with it...what will this ultra-crafty approach yield for her music?!In this episode, we talk about the Dave Smith Instruments Tempest drum machine, as well as the Roland 606, 707, 808, and CR78 drum machines.Greg's website: https://gregwilder.comAlison's website: https://alisonwilder.netDoctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

Since Alison and Greg are a formerly married couple, they know each other's strengths and weaknesses. In this two-part series, they're using that knowledge for good, and creating challenges tailor-made to help the other person become a better musician -- and who knows, maybe a better person along the way!This episode covers Alison's challenge to Greg: to create a piece of music without using his composer craftiness. He's not allowed to think about what he's going to make, but has to abandon his training and use only his intuition to create music.Check out the episode to learn why this was a challenge for Greg, and how it went! Greg's website: https://gregwilder.comAlison's website: https://alisonwilder.netDoctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

It's official: the internet has been a game-changer for music. Alison and Greg dive into how music is and isn't valuable today, both monetarily and culturally.As usual, their conversation is far-reaching. They talk about the usual suspects: Spotify, major labels, Napster, machine learning algorithms, and music for media. Of course, it doesn't stop there. You'll also hear about the desensitization of listeners by reality TV danger music, the Faustian deal we make as musicians, the sheer brilliance and stupidity of Hans Zimmer's music, making beats for Drake, Lawrence Kramer's defense of classical music as still relevant, and music's current value as your mood for sale. Greg's website: https://gregwilder.comAlison's website: https://alisonwilder.netDoctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder

Greg and Alison want to tell you why you should (or shouldn't) go to music school. In this episode, they explore what it's like to take a traditional path through music school, including how music school might be beneficial or detrimental depending on your own musical goals.It's a magical mystery tour through a diverse set of of topics, including  the differences between composers and songwriters, learning how to music on YouTube, Greg's mentor George Rochberg, the creative process in general, Stephen King, Thom Yorke, start-ups, Vangelis, musical embodiment, why Modest Mouse kinda sucks, and production music libraries.Greg is a Doctor of Music in piano and composition from the Eastman School of  Music (ooh la la!) and Alison has a master's degree in music theory and quit a doctoral program in music theory and cognition at McGill University, so they're well versed in the ins and outs of music school. They've both been students and professors, but each decided to leave the academic path years ago, and have been making it on their own in the rough world ever since. Greg's website: https://gregwilder.comAlison's website: https://alisonwilder.netDoctor Body is Alison & Greg's experimental electronic duo.PatternSonix is Alison & Greg's niche consulting firm focusing on the intersection between sound and AI.Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform or check us out at toomuchmusicpodcast.comMusic, blogging, & more from your hosts: Dr. Greg Wilder | Alison Wilder