Let's Talk Shop

🎥 Join Elias Khnaser as he interviews Sachin Gupta, Vice President and General Manager of Infrastructure and Cloud for Google Cloud. Sachin provides insights into the state of digital transformation, the impact of generative AI on cloud adoption, and how Google is helping customers modernize their applications and data strategies.🗣️Hear Sachin discuss innovative solutions like Google Distributed Cloud, which brings a fully-managed cloud experience to customer premises like retail stores, manufacturing facilities, and highly regulated environments. Learn how AI capabilities like large language models, generative AI, and vector databases can be deployed anywhere - in Google Cloud, on-prem, or at the edge - while meeting data sovereignty and security requirements.🌍Sachin also dives into Cross Cloud Network, Google's new service that seamlessly connects workloads across different cloud providers with an open, secure network fabric. Get a glimpse into Google's vision for enabling AI everywhere and empowering customers with flexibility, innovation, and cost efficiencies as they navigate their cloud and AI journeys.Whether you're interested in digital transformation, generative AI, hybrid/multicloud, data modernization or the future of cloud computing, this interview offers valuable insights you won't want to miss!Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

🎥 In this exclusive interview, we catch up with the one and only Brian Madden, live from his office in Paris! Join us as we dive into Brian's latest adventures, from his move to Paris to his exciting new role at ILKI Consulting.🗣️ Brian shares insights on his journey from VMware to working with a pinball startup, and now, his transition into AI consulting with ILKI. Learn about his experiences, challenges, and the dynamic tech landscape in Paris.🌍 Explore Brian's perspective on the evolution of EUC (End-User Computing) and the shifting trends in the industry. From Citrix and VMware to the rise of cloud-native solutions, Brian offers valuable insights into the future of work.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

🚀 Join us in this insightful episode as we welcome back Steve Madden, VP of Segment Marketing and Digital Transformation at Equinix. Steve has been a close friend and collaborator since the launch of our podcast, offering valuable perspectives on the ever-evolving digital landscape.🎙️ In this dynamic conversation, we delve into the state of the digital economy with Steve, exploring key topics such as digital transformation strategies, the impact of AI, and the subscription-based model that is reshaping industries. Steve shares his extensive experience helping customers navigate the complexities of digital transformation, emphasizing the need for businesses to adapt to the changing landscape.🌐 Steve provides a comprehensive overview of the digital ecosystem, discussing the shift from traditional business processes to technology-driven revenue generation. The conversation unfolds into a spirited dialogue on the subscription-based economy, exploring its implications for various industries, including the music sector.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

📍 Live from the Windy CityWelcome back, tech enthusiasts! In this episode of the "Let's Talk Shop" podcast, your host Elias Khnaser is joined by the brilliant Alessandro Perilli, a returning guest with a wealth of insights into the world of AI, cloud, and enterprise tech.🌐 Exploring Cloud and Enterprise TechTune in for a captivating discussion as Elias and Alessandro delve into the latest trends, industry updates, and thought-provoking topics in the fast-evolving landscape of technology. From AWS's Project Kuiper to the VMware-Broadcom acquisition, no stone is left unturned.👥 Guest Spotlight: Alessandro PerilliAlessandro shares his journey over the past year, including launching a boutique research firm focused on artificial intelligence in London. Get ready for an engaging conversation on AI's impact on jobs, the workforce, and the surprising success of Alessandro's projects in the realm of stable diffusion and automation workflows.🚀 Topics on the HorizonThe hosts cover a range of compelling subjects, including the growth challenges faced by major cloud providers, the potential of low orbit satellite internet, and the intriguing dynamics of the advertising business within tech giants. Strap in for a deep dive into the tech universe!Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

Hey, everyone! 👋 Have you been scratching your head at the multitude of YouTube videos offering solutions to VMware's recent changes? I feel you! In today's video, I address the seismic shifts happening since Broadcom acquired VMware. We're talking about sweeping changes in licensing, the demise of the free version, and the restructuring of the entire company.💼 As someone who's been knee-deep in strategy meetings and architectural endeavors, I've noticed a trend of impractical solutions being thrown around. Today, I want to talk straight about the reality of the situation. Broadcom's move to a subscription-based model has many in the IT world on edge, from aspiring VMware professionals to enterprises facing potential cost spikes.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In this special episode of Let's Talk Shop, we are streaming from AWS Re:Invent 2023 and my guest is Nandini Ramani, VP of Monitoring and Observability at AWS. Our discussion include:  ► Key announcements from re:Invent related to cloud operations across three main themes: Governance/compliance, multi-cloud/hybrid, and cost optimization► Specific new capabilities announced:     ► CloudWatch Logs supporting queries across multiple data sources like OpenSearch and Azure      Monitor     ► Application tags in Cost Explorer for visibility by application     ► Control Tower updates like new managed controls and region deny capabilities     ► CloudWatch Logs Infrequent Access for lower cost log storage► Use of AI/ML to enhance CloudWatch, Config and other services:     ► Natural language search capabilities     ► Anomaly detection in logs► Nandini's vision for the future of "automated, self-optimizing, self-remediating" cloud operations capabilities at AWS► Her advice to think about cloud operations upfront rather than an afterthoughtSign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

هذه الحلقة من برنامج "Let’s Talk Shop" تأتيكم من حدث AWS Re:Invent 2023 وضيفنا الخاص، ياسر حسن، المدير الإقليمي لمنطقة الشرق الأوسط وتركيا. تناقشنا فيها حول ما يميز خدمات AWS في الشرق الأوسط وتركيا. كيف تشبه خدمات AWS ببعضها في المنطقة وما هي الاختلافات بينها وبين خدمات AWS في أوروبا؟ كم عدد الأشخاص الذين يتلقون تدريبًا وشهادات في AWS؟ ما هي حالات الاستخدام التي يراها ياسر وفي أي دول؟ هل سنرى AWS Q باللغة العربية قريبًا؟.

When their current cloud lacked scalability, NextEra Energy turned to IBM and AWS for an end-to-end managed solution. This migrated critical enterprise asset management applications while meeting business requirements around support, costs, availability and more.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

2023 AWS ReLInvent was packed with very interesting announcements. Elias, Tim and Sanjeev have an insightful discussion about generative AI and its impact on business and technology. They talk about use cases across industries, integrating AI into enterprise software, governance and ethics concerns, the legal implications of synthetic media, and more. The hosts also speculate on what Amazon might announce regarding generative AI at their AWS re:Invent conference. Overall, it's an engaging dialogue about the promise and perils of this emerging technology.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

From the foundational services like Amazon VPC and Transit Gateway to cutting-edge innovations like VPC Lattice and P5 Instances, we explore it all. Join us as we dive deep into the world of cloud networking, breaking down the latest trends, best practices, and real-world challenges faced by organizations in their cloud journeys.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In this exciting episode, we dive deep into the world of education, AI, and the future of learning. Join us as we catch up with a dear old friend, Gary Eimerman, and explore the latest trends and innovations in the field of education.Gary, with over a decade of experience at Pluralsight and a track record of transforming the learning landscape, shares his insights into the evolution of online education. He reflects on his time at Pluralsight, leading up to his recent departure and transition into a semi retirement—a surprising twist for someone known for their boundless energy.But the retirement was short-lived, and Gary return as the Chief Learning Officer of Multiverse.io. An outstanding alternative to college and corporate training via professional apprenticeships.Check out:► Gary on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garyeimerman/► Multiverse.ioSign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

Maribel, Merv, Sanjeev and Eli react to Google Cloud Next 23 announcements. We discussed at length the AI announcements and what it really means to you! we discussed use cases, what we liked about Google Next 23. This was a fun episode that was full of great analysis and information.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In this episode of Let’s Talk Shop, our guest is Shobhit Varshney, VP and Sr. Partner at IBM Consulting. We delve into IBM's annual CEO Study, unveiling intriguing findings on productivity, technology modernization, and the evolving landscape of generative AI. Discover the biggest barriers hindering the adoption of generative AI and how it boosts productivity, accompanied by real client examples. Business leaders seeking to scale generative AI will find invaluable tips, explore ripe experimental areas, and delve into exciting use cases and innovations. Get an insider's view of the strategic partnership between IBM and AWS, the role of Watsonx, and how they serve clients together. Brace for bold change in the enterprise as Shobhit shares the future vision for IBM Consulting amidst the accelerating technology disruption like quantum computing.Download the CEO Study: ► https://ibm.biz/BdyLF5Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In this episode, my guest is Kyle Baxter, senior product manager at Juniper Apstra and we’re setting our sights on the intersection of networking and the hybrid cloud, with a special focus on Juniper Apstra. We will ask all the questions about use cases, differentiation and discuss where intent-based networking is today and where Juniper thinks it’s going in the future, especially with all the A.I. advancement. Join us as we decode the complexities of networking and unleash the power of the hybrid cloud.► Give Juniper Apstra a spin with a free trial: https://juni.pr/45WQTGC  ► Documentation for Apstra via Juniper CloudLabs: https://juni.pr/3P8DVPX  ► Demos of Apstra in action: https://juni.pr/3qIeQkCSign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

Tessell is disrupting cloud database as a service. But what is Tessell exactly? how does it work? which cloud doe sit work on? doesn't it increase my cloud costs? is it secure? is it easy to manage? will I not be adding yet another layer of management and complexity? discover the answers to all these questions and more with out guest, Steve Kaplan, channels leader at Tessell. Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In this episode, we explore the potential challenges associated with cloud computing. We discuss both technical risks, such as service disruptions and security, as well as non-technical risks like legal and compliance issues, privacy concerns, and vendor lock-in. We provide strategies to mitigate these risks and maintain control over your data. Join us on this journey to understand and overcome the challenges of the cloud while harnessing its benefits.► VIDEO SPONSOR: Veritas "Resilient. Compliant. Secure by default".- https://www.veritas.com/Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

Welcome to today's episode of Let's Talk Shop podcast. Our guest for today's show is Tim Crawford, a leading CIO thought leader and advisor.In this episode, we dive deep into the current state of enterprise technology and explore the biggest challenges that CIOs are facing today. Tim shares his insights on topics such as digital transformation, cloud computing, cybersecurity, and the evolving role of the CIO in today's business landscape.We also discuss the impact of emerging technologies such as AI, machine learning, and IoT, and how CIOs can effectively navigate these new trends to drive innovation and growth in their organizations.Throughout the conversation, Tim provides practical advice and real-world examples based on his extensive experience working with CIOs across various industries. He also offers valuable insights into the evolving nature of IT leadership and what it takes to be a successful CIO in today's fast-paced, technology-driven world.So, join us for this fascinating discussion with Tim Crawford as we explore the challenges and opportunities facing CIOs today and how they can stay ahead of the curve.Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In this episode of Let's Talk Shop, we sit down with David Heinemeier Hansson, the creator of Ruby on Rails and co-founder of Basecamp & HEY, to discuss his recent controversial cloud exit.David made headlines when he announced that Basecamp & HEY would be leaving the cloud (AWS and Google Cloud) and moving back on-premises (colo). This decision was motivated by many concerns, the primary driver is that they expect to save a significant amount of money. David also made the point that cloud was supposed to simplify things and it did not, there is increased complexity in managing cloud. In our conversation, David shares his thoughts on the benefits and drawbacks of cloud computing, and why he believes that companies should have more control over their own infrastructure. He also discusses the challenges of making the transition away from the cloud, and what he has learned from the experience.Given my background in cloud, this was definitely an interesting conversation. Join me and my co-host, Mindy Cancila for a thought-provoking and informative discussion. Stay tuned to the end. I made a bet with David and I need your help :) Follow David's blog where he documents their journey out of the cloud and all the lessons they will learn along the way:► https://world.hey.com/dhhSign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In today's episode, we dive deep into the world of JumpCloud, a game-changing cloud directory platform that's transforming the way IT administrators manage and secure their organizations.Join Eli as he talks to Chase Doelling, Principal Strategist at JumpCloud, to discuss how this innovative platform is revolutionizing the IT landscape. Discover the ins and outs of JumpCloud, including its unique features, benefits, and how it's empowering IT professionals to be more efficient, agile, and secure.Key discussion points in this episode include:► A brief overview of JumpCloud and its mission to simplify IT administration► The limitations of traditional directory services and how JumpCloud fills the gap► The role of JumpCloud in enabling seamless remote work and hybrid work environments► JumpCloud's robust security features and how they help protect organizations from cyber threatsDon't miss this in-depth conversation with Chase Doelling, as we explore the world of cloud directory services and learn how JumpCloud is paving the way for a more efficient, secure, and flexible IT landscape. Whether you're an IT administrator, a CIO, or just a tech enthusiast, this episode will provide valuable insights into the future of IT management. Subscribe to "Tech Horizons" now and stay ahead of the curve!Sign Up Now for my online course "The Cloud Strategy Master Class":► On my web site: https://lnkd.in/gcxcrX and use promo code LINKEDIN20 to receive a 20% discount.► On Udemy: https://www.udemy.com/course/cloud-strategy-master-class/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com

In this episode of Let's Talk Shop, my guest is the president and CEO of Flexera Jim Ryan. Given all the talk these days about cloud cost cutting, Jim coming on the show was perfect timing. Jim interacts with client CxOs and IT leaders on a regular basis and it was great to get his insights into what is top of mind today and what his advice is to get through these weird and interesting economic times. Of course we also talked about the future of cloud and a bunch of other things. Super cool episode!  ► https://www.flexera.com/PODCASTS: Listen wherever you get your podcasts:► Let's Talk Shop: http://letstalkshop.buzzsprout.com ► It Depends with Eli and Sanjeev: http://itdepends.buzzsprout.com Follow me:► TikTok: @ekhnaser► Instagram: @ekhnaser► Twitter: @ekhnaser► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliaskhnaser/► Website: www.eliaskhnaser.com