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Kia Ora Koutou, and welcome to Lunch on The Way! We're three guys doing theology over lunch, and sometimes we'll do that with others. We talk about church, culture, theology, philosophy, and more, always wanting to be as practical as possible. This is a thinking podcast more than a teaching podcast. We want to warn you, that what's said here is not yet complete, because, like any good conversation, you never want it to end.
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In this conversation, Graeme and Joey discuss Joey's experience at Auckland's new Mormon Temple, how architecture reveals a church's/religion's theology, the craziness of the world, how Canada and US relations is a microcosm of the disruption the world will feel, and much more. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated...
In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Mark Sayers and discuss what Mark learned about ministry during the Melbourne lockdowns, why embodied ministry matters so much, how proceduralism has blunted the church's mission, how the church needs to be a pillar rather than a platform in the world, how everything is politically changing in the world, transcendence and immanence, what is means to be human, and how the Trump foreign policy will change Australia and New Zealand. Mark Sayer...
In this episode, Joey and Graeme interview AJ Thomas, who is one of the teaching and preaching pastors at Kings Church in New Brunswick, Canada. He also leads the Atlantic Kingdom Alliance which aims to bring together pastors and ministry leader from diverse theological and denominational background for the advancement of the gospel. They discussed his journey from youth ministry to church planting and his current role at King's Church, the importance of preaching as a sacramental act (distin...
In this conversation the guys explores the concept of faith deconstruction and truth, emphasizing the importance of a holistic view of life. Many people deconstruct not Christianity but specific expressions or packaged forms of it, often driven by personal experiences and dissatisfaction with rigid, mechanistic approaches. They highlight the need for a synthesized understanding of truth that includes emotions and relationships, advocating for a more humble and open approach to truth that trus...
Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
This week Graeme, Jonathan, and Joey discussed what it means to be human and how the church is the place that helps people become fully alive in Christ. This conversation centres on a Saint Irenaeus quote, "the glory of God is a human being fully alive." We discuss the importance of balancing transcendence, materiality, relationships, and freedom, arguing that modern society's overemphasis on materiality and disembodiment has led to a spiritual void. The Lord's Prayer is highlighted as embody...
In this episode Jonathan, Graeme, and Joey announce something big, critique the current formation movement as a potentially falling into legalism, how to live with wisdom on the formation journey, catching the "wind" of the Spirit, and the importance of churches being an alternative space to the frameworks and realities of the world. This episode is a mixture of many different topics, but we still hope you can engage with something on the way. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, ...
In this episode, Jonathan, Graeme, Joey break open a controversial topic relating to church growth and the pursuit of more. They undercover insights only someone who cares not for the consequences of thinking and questioning can unearth. Therefore, the listener needs to approach this conversation with the best of intentions; assuming the guys are love Jesus, the church, and what God to rule on earth as in heaven. Enjoy Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. Th...
In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Rev. Dr. Clint Ussher who leads The Well in Christchurch, NZ and the Centre for Church Leadership. It was an open and honest conversation about church planting, identity in Christ, what pastors are sensing in New Zealand, and much more. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any ...
In this conversation, Jonathan and Joey tease out the tensions we manage within the church and as we follow Jesus. 00:00 Introduction 00:42 Tensions are not problems to be solved 6:11 Theological tensions to manage 10:05 Slacklining as a metaphor for tension 12:07 More tensions or prayer, salvation, and more 15:10 TENSION 1: Doing vs Theological Reflection 24:29 TENSION 2: Popular Voices vs Local Voices Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions exp...
In this episode the guys talk about their experience of listening to God's voice and what that means for them, some of the problematic aspects of claiming you've heard from God, and a way forward to better discern God's voice during big decisions. Email lunchontheway@gmail.com 00:00 Introduction 00:42 Catching up on life 03:20 Our experiences with hearing God's voice 14:52 Honest & integrity help you hear 18:14 Grieving the Holy Spirit (Eph 4) 22:10 Justification vs personal holiness 24...
In this episode, Graeme, Jonathan, and Joey discuss the cultural obsession with power and attempt to rebalance the conversation, pointing to Jesus as the example of what to do with the power you have. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, Joey and Graeme discuss the importance of theological reflection in moments of crisis. They cover how to think well during critical incidents, what is critical thinking and theological reflection, the importance of crisis, why COVID was a crisis for the church, getting deeper and not more pragmatic, the issues the church is forced to wrestle with, being okay with uncomfortable questions, education that enables critical thinking, Joey's Sunday morning reflections, the WHY that...
In this conversation, the guys talk about Graeme trip to the US as a delivered a paper at the Media Ecology Conference. 00:00 Introduction 02:30 Graeme at the Media Ecology Conference 07:58 Graeme's Experience of AMERICA 14:30 Is AI and Tech Bad? 24:40 Why a Theological-Anthropology Matters 34:50 How do we Know Who we are? 38:30 Having a Relationship with AI 45:30 Will AI make critical thinking extinct? 51:30 An Important Story Lunch on The Way is a podcast that deeply discusses Christianit...
Lunch on The Way is a podcast that deeply discusses Christianity, Church, Culture, and Jesus. Available on ALL podcast platforms https://lunchontheway.buzzsprout.com/share In this episode the guys bring back Sam Burrows to talk more about the meta-crisis with our youth (03:02), with education (11:50), wha the meta-crisis is (14:12), a way of answering it (17:00), who Ayaan Hirsi Ali is (21:22), the death of post-modernism (24:57), a desire for nostalgia (28:33), what Christian disruption is ...
In this conversation, Jonathan, Graeme, and Joey discuss the good, bad, and intriguing metaphors that shape our understanding of the world, church, and our humanity. They discuss how metaphors create realities (03:30), what a metaphor is (06:10), the problematic metaphors were us as Christians (09:30), how metaphors reveal what we desire (19:30), how metaphors guide the church but should be clearly known (24:30), how Genesis 3 and the Garden is the greatest metaphor (28:45), why the Bible doe...
In this conversation, Graeme and Joey sit down with Dr. Clare Knowles who is a translation coordinator at Bible Society NZ. We discuss what Bible Society NZ is (12:42), the work Clare is currently doing with the Tokelauan Bible (14:18), cultural contextualisation and the Bible (22:50), the relationship between translation and interpretation (33:23), the ambitious sign-language project (43:18), the best/worst Bible translations (48:50), and AI and Bible translating (53:45). Podcast hosts are ...
Lunch on The Way is a podcast that deeply discusses Christianity, Church, Culture, and Jesus. Available on ALL podcast platforms https://lunchontheway.buzzsprout.com/share In this conversation, Jonathan and Joey weave between two main topics but begin with discussion discarding dualism (03:30), how liturgy straightens the soul like a piece of bent wood (06:53), whether we can really change through habit forming or if we need the Spirit to do that deep work (12:10), Joey and Jonathan's experi...
In this conversation, Graeme and Joey discuss Carey Nieuwhof's latest Auckland, NZ church leadership and trends discussion but add their own thoughts to his "shifts" and "moves." They discuss how NZ church is 10yrs ahead of North America (3:08), online church possibly reaching unchurched people (10:38), people seeing us more than God (33:13), dissatisfaction with mirroring culture (36:05), the rise in authenticity (41:27), how content is not church (45:23), seeing people as more than a binary...
Lunch on The Way is a podcast that deeply discusses Christianity, Church, Culture, and Jesus. Available on ALL podcast platforms https://lunchontheway.buzzsprout.com/share In this conversation the guys get honest and discuss last week's LIVE RECORDING (00:31), whether current trends and changing are going to stick in churches (07:03), if business methodology and church needs a new critical eye (15:25), how leadership and pastoral ministry are different (25:52), the way we see the world vs ho...
Welcome to our very first LIVE RECORDING of Lunch on The Way held at Laidlaw College's Orientation Week. In this live conversation we discussed what's on Jonathan's mind (05:32), the church's need for reform (or not) (08:55), what true and false church reform looks like (13:18), John Mark Comer (19:50), wanting deeper things at church (21:13), a radical church change (24:53), the 3 types of church connection (28:25), the need for white spaces (30:15), how online church changes church (31:37),...
In this episode, Joey and Graeme discuss the Waitangi Day (00:37), tease future podcast topics (03:37), what a "Professional Christian" is (05:01), critique Rick Warren's baseball diamond discipleship pathway (08:35), expose spiritual comparison and pride (11:00), list the qualities of a spiritual person (16:28), discuss holiness compared to personality and culture (21:05), define what holiness is (28:15), explain the concept of Entire Sanctification (31:25), and finish explaining how followi...
In this episode, the guys begin 2024 talking about what "Real Christianity" is all about. They look at John Mark Comer's take on contemporary church service and Christian formation, and Jonathan discusses what the "new martyrdom" is for the modern West. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of an...
In this episode, the guys look forward with the help of Sam Burrows to what 2024 will bring for the world and church. They also bring their sense of hope into an otherwise uncertain 2024. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys answer some of the most asked questions relating to Christianity searched on Google. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys discuss land and place as a spiritual reality and how some cultures (Western??) have a difficult time seeing the spiritual in the material world. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys how people live in competing and inconsistent narratives about the world and they escape to video games or films to find coherence. While this can seem like a bad thing, for the Christian, it can be good through the idea of "code switching." Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and...
In this episode, the guys discuss a controversial article advocating for people to stop having children as a form of protest for climate action, the immoral presuppositions at play disguised as moral, and what we should do in the face of difficult problems. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs...
In this episode, the guys celebrate the 1 Year Anniversary of the podcast and why they began in the first place. They also pivot and discuss meaning and evangelism. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organi...
In this episode, the guys talk more about hope, but this time what a hopeful life looks like! Be sure to listen to the previous episodes before launching into this one. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys talk about the picture of hopelessness that has captured the imagination of the church and where the real hope is at. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys are back in the same room and discuss what's on their minds. They land on the topic of mission and how a shift needs to take place that places having a missionary mindset/identity at the top of the Christian identity. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliat...
In this episode, the guys discuss pastoral leadership and trends post-COVID with Dr. Karen Kemp. Karen is a coach and trainer with the Centre for Church Leadership (CfCL) and a lecturer at Laidlaw College. She has a wealth of pastoral and theological experience that she uses to discern trends in culture and church leadership. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of th...
In this episode, the guys discuss body-led spiritual formation with Dr. Maja Whitaker. Maja is the Practical Theology lead at Laidlaw College and teaches courses such as Formation, Christian Leadership, and other courses at a Master's level. She was also a pastor in the Equippers movement in New Zealand for many years. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the indiv...
In this episode, Jonathan and Joey discuss how Christians can interpret the Bible to discover meaning. They initially differ, but then find common ground. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys discuss evangelism with Dr. Mark Keown. They discuss the changes happening in the church and how evangelism might look in our complicated world. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys invite Sam Burrows to talk about a new shift in culture: people wanting order in their life through traditional meaning. This is another touch point for Christians in culture. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys discuss Joey's experience of being at a Pentecostal church on Pentecost Sunday. They discuss speaking in tongues, charismatic experience despite what we think, and what normative Christianity might be. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations...
In this episode, the guys discuss how everything we do and practice speaks to something about God and what we believe. CRAZY!! Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys discuss if practices are the real driver that leads to belief and unbelief. We are more formed by what we do than by what we believe. Does this mean what we do leads to what we believe? Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this episode, the guys discuss why secularism is such a viable default option for many Christians and what can be done to help change that reality. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
This episode is an update by Joey Millington regarding why there have not been any postings lately, and what to expect for 2023. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this conversation, the guys talked about Post-Modernism and its origin story. They explore how it is a relativization of truth but a forcing of one's truth on another in its modern, "woke" expression. How should Christians engage with this philosophy that has taken hold of culture? Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflec...
In this conversation, the guys talked about Christian imagination, our Post-COVID environment, discipleship, the beautiful gesture, and much more. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated organisations or ministries.
In this conversation, the guys talked about what "revival" is. They were initially critical of what was going on at Asbury University but quickly came to the conclusion that what was happening ticked the box of revival. It all depends on how people define the word. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and b...
Graeme is a lecturer at Laidlaw College with the Centre for Church Leadership with a PhD in Practical Theology. He has over 20 years of pastoral experience and has lived in both the North and South Islands of New Zealand. In this conversation, Joey interviews Graeme about his conversion and life story. They talk about Pentecostal Christianity in 1970s New Zealand, his pastoral experience, and much more. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and...
In this episode, we recap some of our favourite thoughts and moments from season 1, talk about doubt and faith, and distress on a few other topics. This is the Season Finale for the podcast, and we will be starting up again in February 2023. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the individuals expressing and do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of any affiliated...
Roshan Allpress is the National Principal of Laidlaw College, a Christian College in Aotearoa New Zealand. In this conversation, Roshan talks a bit about his life and personal call to see Christians fully integrated with the gospel in society. He explains the role of Christian institutions and how they help provide the foundation for a lasting move of God through revival and renewal. He also encourages the church to focus more on faithfulness through multiple generations and centuries rather...
Jonathan is a PhD student through AUT with an incredible story of meeting Jesus in both life and death. In this conversation, Joey interviews Jonathan about his life and how he started following Jesus, became a Pentecostal pastor, lived in Israel and had his faith shaken, died and met Jesus, and became the thoughtful believer he is today. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions expressed in this podcast are sole...
Joey Millington is a lecturer at Laidlaw College in the Theology Department. He is also a staff pastor at East City Wesleyan Church in East Auckland, New Zealand. In this conversation, Jonathan interviews Joey about his life and how he started following Jesus, initially became a pastor, and moved to New Zealand. Joey discusses how God's calling is what drives his life. Email us at lunchontheway@gmail.com Podcast hosts are Greame Flett, Jonathan Hoskin, and Joey Millington. The opinions exp...
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