Hello friends. We have reached the end of the podcast. At least 100 times Ed and I got together to talk about our thoughts, mostly about technical things, sometimes it was funny, sometimes it was serious. But people change and decide to put their energies into other activities. It is neither good nor bad, it is just how people grow and evolve. If Ed and Chris had not grown and changed as people since we shared the first episode on December 11, 2011, that would’ve been a huge failure. Thank you to everyone that supported this podcast over the years and reached out to us and became friends with us. Ed and Chris might do something else in the future, but it will not be /dev/hell. If there is one constant theme, it has been how programming slides towards being complex and fails instead of the majority of people working hard towards making it simple. We end the same way we started — with Ed complaining about the developer experience being so terrible for so many people. Take care of yourselves and always be pushing to make things better for everyone around you, not just yourselves. Do these things! Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes How Complex Systems Fail

Ed: “Who do you think was our best guest over the years?” Chris (without hesitating): “Paul Reinheimer” Friend-of-the-podcast Paul Reinheimer has know Ed and Chris for many years and has shared many wonderful stories about himself and his side-gig-turned-primary-gig WonderNetwork both in person and on previous episodes. Who else could tell us about their experiences of dealing with apathetic corporations who are hosting hardware for them in locations around there world? We jumped all over the place so dig into the show notes for some interesting content. Do these things! Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Paul likes using Amazon Athena for storing WonderNetwork’s information-rich log files What to do when an HTC Vive breaks before you even use it Space Pirate Trainer Control (the game) The Outer Worlds The Football Manager series of games Game Maker Studio Raku is what Perl 6 ended up becoming The “leftpad incident” What is the Commonwealth Chris uses WonderVPN for all his adult-content watching needs Ed is still making music over at Dead Agent We argued about radio royalties The well-off-but-not-elite people of Ontario often lust after properties in Cottage country Microconf is a conference for small business owners who don’t intend on taking VC money

This was recorded way too long ago. We even lost the episode notes that had been so carefully curated. What do you want from us?!? BLINK TWICE IF YOU WANT MORE EPISODES. Do these things! Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Check out Ed’s musical project Dead Agent Check out Chris' latest book “The Grumpy Programmer’s Guide To Testing PHP Applications”

As we slouch along towards episode 100, we do something we normally don’t do and have a guest on to try and sell a book they’ve written. This time out we spoke with Dane Hillard, who is in the process of finishing a book about Python programming for folks who are new to programming. Dane shared his experiences writing the book and why he feels there is a gap in help out there for folks who are looking to add programming to their problem-solving toolkit. Do these things! Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes You can find “Code Like A Pro” at Manning books You can use the promo code poddevhell19 to get 40% the book (and maybe others?) Dane used ASCIIDOC to format the book You can find Dane on The Twitters at @easyaspython Chris talks about how he is learning about CQRS and Event Sourcing

Ed and Chris started talking to each other again over a series of tubes, with the end result being another episode of the podcast. This time around we discussed some weirdness we had been noticing with our episode announcement mailing list, TIOBE and popularity contests, building things for our hobbies, and the never-ending street fight of complexity vs. churn. Do these things! Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes The TIOBE Index Chris’s and Ed'spreferred IDE for doing Python work, PyCharm The Rust programming language The Go programming language The concept of duck typing Bootstrap-Vue component and grid system Chris' site for his Magic the Gathering EDH league

It did, in fact, take longer than six months. This was recorded on June 20, 2018. Still here. Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork, OSMI, and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3)

It’s been a while since our last episode, but this time Chris and Ed go together in the same room down in Pawnee, Indiana to record an episode. Between Ed making faces at Chris while recording and Chris' totally messing up who wrote the testing blog post he went on and on, it was clear /dev/hell is not in the groove. In this episode Ed talks about some of his personal struggles that led to a long absence, Chris asks about what to do when the time frame for your goals doesn’t align with the types of places you work, and Chris and Ed try to enjoy being together in the same place while hoping the noise from the hand dryer in the bathroom on the other side of the wall from them doesn’t cause a ton of noise. Don’t worry, the podcast isn’t dead! Ed and Chris intend on talking to each other for a very very long time to come. However, you can expect to see less of us on the conference circuit in 2018. Both Chris and Ed have decided that for personal reasons they need to reduce their travel schedules. Do these things! Support us via our Patreon Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Matchbox Cowork Studio The Black Sparrow Apologies to Martin Fowler for attributing this awesome post about testing at Google hosted by Mr. Fowler and written by Mike Bland to Michael Feathers

Chris has finally moved his vast grumpy empire to it’s new location, so it was time to record an episode and get their hands on that sweet, sweet Patreon money. In this scintillating episode we talk about deliberate change in your life to achieve a new set of goals, along with upcoming conference appearances. Chris also reveals a dark secret about his new adopted home town and Ed mocks Chris for temporarily confusing two Lous. Do these things! Support us via our Patreon Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Is Chris a sleeper agent for the Black Donnellys? It’s not Spy vs Spy but Lou vs. Lou Chris decided to try something different for computer equipment when travelling This film once prompted an accusation that “When Goose died, Hartjes cried” Check out Firefox Nightly to see what in store for Firefox 57, to be released in November 2017 Chris is speaking at WeCamp 2017 and Symfony Live Berlin Ed will be speaking at Elixir with Love, AllThingsOpen, and TechCampMemphis

“…and that’s why this podcast is rated M for mature” Chris and Ed talk about their thoughts on what might have to change once you become “internet famous” and a reminder that even if you have made mistakes in the past, you can choose to correct them in the future. We also include a new segment called “What toys did we buy?” to reflect how the hosts numb the pain of every day living through conspicuous consumption. Thanks to Chance Garcia for allowing us to bring another health issue to people’s attention. Do these things! Support us via our Patreon Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Ed talked about how easy it is to be a dick online back in 2015 Ed recommends checking out this book on non-violent communication Interested in iOS development like Ed? Check out the Swift programming language Ray Wenderlich is a go-to person for Swift knowledge Now that Ed is a baller and has a dedicated desk at his co-working space, he bought a new Dell 4K monitor Ed is also using the Rain Design mStand for his laptop Chris is trying out a mechanical keyboard for the first time in 20 years — a bluetooth one from lophree Chris also has some very ambitious networking plans for his next house Ed will be appearing at WordCampDC, PyOhio and has his fingers crossed about PNWPHP Chris will be coaching at WeCamp 2017 and doing a testing workshop (and maybe more) at Symfony Live Berlin

Chris and Ed do an extremely rare daytime recording of the show on the American Memorial Day holiday. But why is a Canadian not working on an American Holiday? You’ll have to tune in to find out why along with some thoughts on mentoring and why the current crop of browser-centric testing tools are completely shit. Thanks to Ben Ramsey for his poetry choice and Chance Garcia for allowing us to bring another health issue to people’s attention. Do these things! Support us via our Patreon Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Please support Ed’s efforts to make OSMI his main gig! Both Chris and Ed will be at CakeFest 2017 WebDriver is an API in heavy use at Mozilla (and elsewhere) for doing browser automation work Ed talked about a testing tool called Fake from his webOS development days that promoted a very different testing paradigm Chris has done browser automation in PHP using Behat, Mink and a lot of swearing Most current browser-centric UI testing tools are Rube Goldberg machines Great blog post from the ClojureScript community showing off property-based testing and immutibility Also some great work being done in PHPUnit with snapshot testing

Chris and Ed talk about Ed’s new laptop and his decision to transition to do OSMI full-time. They also talked about their new Patreon that’s helping them find sponsors for the podcast. Do these things! Support us via our Patreon Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Please support Ed’s efforts to make OSMI his main gig Back when we got a new MBP Chris talked about his new setup

Chris and Ed decided to push themselves out of their comfort zone and talked to Laravel community superstar Matt Stauffer. We talked about Matt’s experience writing a book for a major publish (with an animal on the cover and everything), asked the question “does consistency in code matter for OSS projects” and Chris sadly muted his mic while Matt and Ed discussed the Analogue NT Mini gaming console. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork, OSMI, and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Matt’s book Laravel Up And Running Chris hacks away on OpenCFP Symposium is an app designed to help speakers collect their talks The Anologue NT Mini is Ed’s latest console purchase How weird film shot at 120fps will look Matt is one of the big shots at Tighten You can play video games in your browser thanks to the Internet Archive’s Console Living Room

A short-ish episode this time out where our Dynamic Duo went guestless and talked about their recent conference experiences in Salt Lake City, Antwerp, and Miami. Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork, OSMI, and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Eric Lindros gets wiped out by Scott Stevens, never to be an elite-level player again Chris and Ed spoke at SunshinePHP, enjoying the crazy happy-hour scene and tropical drinks Ed spoke at LoopConf The video of Ed’s talk is up on YouTube where he dressed like Emo Ernie Chris spoke at PHP Benelux

This time out we asked our listeners to submit some questions because we are tired of winning so much and wanted to let others get in on it. Along the way Ed talked about a recent computer-related purchase he made on eBay while Chris talked about one the earliest science fiction short stories he can remember while feeling incredibly old at the same time. Don’t worry, Chris' ego let him know he was not old and is still awesome. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork, Grumpy Learning and Open Sourcing Mental Illness Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes “What would you do if we weren’t programming as a career?” “How do you get to the point where you don’t need to submit resumes to get jobs?” What the heck is the Commodore Plus/4 and why doesn’t Ed know everything about CP/M Ray Bradbury’s A Sound Of Thunder is a legendary time travel story

YOUR 2016 PHP PODCAST OF THE YEAR from simpleprogrammer.com Welcome to the very first episode of 2017! We’re back after a nice break for the holidays and ready to get back to being insightful and unfiltered. In this episode we talked about the concept of “programming as craft” with Chris and Ed having a great discussion about what should follow after the phrase “programmers need to learn empathy.” Ed also released some music, and is donating all the proceeds to OSMI. Chris was sad that he did not get the opportunity to re-record the vocal tracks from some of Ed’s older material in his own signature vocal style. Chris also talked (not so briefly) about the new laptop he bought and the security measures he decided to take with it. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork, Grumpy Learning and Open Sourcing Mental Illness Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Kent Beck’s tweet about programmers and empathy Ed recommended a book on non-violent communication Ed’s music stylings as Dead Agent Chris bought a Satechi Slim Type-C Multi-Port Adapter and one of the Apple USB-A-to-C adapters for his YubiKey Can Single User Mode get around FileVault? Prey can help protect your laptop if it gets stolen Chris blogged about his new laptop and setup Both Ed and Chris have had great success with recommendations provided by The Wirecutter

Welcome to our end-of-year episode! It has been probably the most gratifying year in a long time for both Chris and Ed. Chris' work at Mozilla has really changed his perspective on the value of the open web and his future. Ed finally got the chance to sink his teeth into a true leadership role at GraphStory and with a lot of help OSMI became a non-profit poised to continue doing excellent work in the field of bringing awareness to mental health issues. Crazy travel schedules, the last TrueNorthPHP, Chris and Ed laughing about things more than usual, and a very passionate non-testing-related speech from Chris can be found in this final episode of 2016. We know 2016 sucked for a lot of people and 2017 is likely to suck worse. Hang in there, we will be here for you. Feel like helping OSMI raise some money this Christmas while consuming conspicuously? Please consider using Amazon Smile to send a small portion of each purchase to OSMI. We’ve included a large number of links below for things we have bought or considered buying for our loved ones (and often ourselves) with Smile affiliation. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes GO HERE FIRST BEFORE YOU BUY Amazon Smile purchases all benefit Open Sourcing Mental Illness. Tom Bihn AERONAUT 45 NOMATIC Bag eBags eTech 2.0 Weekender Convertible Travelpro Platinum Magna 2 22 Ince Express Rollaboard Suitcase TUFFTAAG Travel ID Bag Tag Outdoor Research Ultralight Z-Compression Sac Eagle Creek Pack-It Cube Set Eagle Creek Pack-It Slim Kit Toiletry Organizer BESTEK Grounded Universal Plug Worldwide Plug Travel Adapter Skooba Design Cable Stable DLX Skooba Design Cable Stable Mini Jackery Bolt 6,000 mAh Ultra-Compact External Battery Charger, Portable Power Bank and Travel Charger with Built-in Lightning & Micro USB Cables Anker PowerCore 20000 with Quick Charge 3.0 Nomader Collapsible Water Bottle Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD AUKEY USB-C to USB 3.0 Adapter (2 Pack) Satechi Slim Aluminum Type-C Multi-Port Adapter with Type-C Charging Port, 4K HDMI (30Hz) Video Output, and 2 USB 3.0 Ports for MacBook 12 and New MacBook Pro 2016 Blue Yeti USB Microphone Shure MV5 Digital Condenser Microphone (Gray) + USB & Lightning Cable STM Blazer Padded Sleeve with Shoulder Strap NETGEAR AC1750 Smart WiFi Router Dual Core 800MHz Processor – Router Only (R6400-100NAS) Audio-Technica ATH-ANC7B QuietPoint Active Noise-Cancelling Closed-Back Headphones – Wired Jabra Move Wireless Stereo Headset – Black Yubi Key for hardware auth

Chris and Ed record a very quick show to talk about Ed’s latest conference adventure, the launch of some new stuff from OSMI, and Chris talks about feedback loops, hoodies that don’t fit, and the end of TrueNorthPHP. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Ed spoke at DevSpace 2016 in Huntsville There are now some donations-welcome ebooks available from OSMI Chris and Ed will have a rare meat-space meetup at Eternal Weekend All the OSMI t-shirts and hoodies are done through Clockwise

Pacific Northwest PHP co-organizer Tess Mero joins Ed and Chris to discuss her work organizing one of the newer regional conferences, Joomla, and what the hell does Cisco have to offer PHP developers. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Tessa’s blog and Twitter account Big Fan with Patton Oswalt Cisco DevNet Thinkful The always awesome Jeremy Lindblom Joomla Tessa learned a lot about Joomla via courses at Open Source Training Fellow developer evangelist Mike Stowe Cisco Spark Tropo The Pacific Northwest PHP conference

In this scintillating episode Chris and Ed shift gears and talk about their own experiences working “in the open”. Chris is very fortunate that everything he does at Mozilla gets open-sourced while Ed talks about his experiences back when he was running Spaz. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Chris' work at Mozilla generally ends up in their Mozilla Services GitHub repo When Ed’s employer does open source things, they fall under the Graph Story repo Mozilla is using TestPilot to test new features for their browsers Opera had a pretty nasty security breach Ed mentioned that one of Graph Story’s open source projects is a iOS Neo4J library Ed is also getting better at branding — GLOSSY has been renamed HackLafayette despite Chris saying it should be called G-POSSY The last ever TrueNorthPHP is coming up fast — November 3-5 Ed was the lead on Spaz, one of the first 3rd party Twitter clients Chris used to get great schadenfreude by reading about all sorts of stupid failed startups over at Fucked Company

This time around Chris and Ed attempt to shame you with their D-lister activities and ability to purchase things they want but don’t need. We cover PyOhio, the long-anticipated php|cruise, and some useful gadgets they’ve incorporated into their work flows. Do these things! Check out our sponsors WonderNetwork and Grumpy Learning Buy stickers at devhell.info/shop Follow us on Twitter here Rate us on iTunes here Listen Download now (MP3) Links and Notes Ed spoke about his usual stuff at PyOhio and Chris thought the event looked awesome Ed’s talk from PyOhio Chris got sucked in by the Facebook advertising for the Henge Dock Chris brought his long-suffering wife along with him for php|cruise and highly recommends cruising as a vacation option Ed likes the Roost Laptop Stand Chris bought some generic monitor-stand-and-USB hub at Winners Ed had some UPS fun with his new Tom Bihn bag Both Chris and Ed highly recommend the Wirecutter’s travel gear guide