Franchise Secrets Podcast

At a recent franchise event, two brands presented nearly identical revenue numbers.   One claimed 15% EBITDA margins. The other claimed 35% EBITDA margins.   That's a massive difference.   So who's right?   In this episode of Franchise Secrets, I sit down with Kristin Brindley, multi-unit franchisee and seasoned entrepreneur, to break down:   -Why EBITDA claims can be misleading -How franchisors actually make money -The retail vs wholesale pricing trap -Why industry research matters more than brand research -How to validate margins before investing -What serious buyers do that amateurs skip   If you're evaluating a franchise opportunity, this conversation could save you six figures — or more.   👉 Before you buy a franchise, do your homework on the industry, not just the brand.   Timestamps: 00:00 Why Industry Research Is So Important 02:04 Kristin Brindley's Origin Story (Cutco → 7 Franchises) 06:38 Built vs. Acquired: Growing to 7 Units Fast 13:22 AI, Automation & Virtual Assistants at Scale 20:17 Buying Criteria: What Makes a Business Attractive 31:29 "Systems, Not Heroics" — The Roll-Up Philosophy 39:05 15% vs 35% EBITDA — Who's Right? 40:44 The Retail vs Wholesale Margin Trap 49:44 Saving Hundreds of Thousands (Tax Strategy Breakdown) 54:16 From Franchisee to Portfolio CEO   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchising #EBITDA #Acquisitions

For 20 years businesses fought to win Google search. Billions were invested in SEO, backlinks, and ranking tactics. Now that entire system is being replaced.   In this conversation, Kasim Aslam explains why Answer Engine Optimization (AEO)—how AI tools like ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini, and Claude choose answers—will replace traditional SEO, and why Google will eventually "set its own search graph on fire."   This isn't theory. * Over 90% of AI citations come from just 12% of websites * AI prefers people over brands * Schema matters more than content * Category kings can be dethroned overnight   If you're an entrepreneur, franchisor, creator, or business owner, this is the biggest opportunity since social media—and most people don't even know it's happening.   We cover: * Why SEO is becoming irrelevant * How AI chooses authorities * The difference between SEO vs AEO * Why brands will lose to personal authority * The exact first steps to rank in AI * How to future-proof your business   Timestamps: 0:00 – 0:47 — SEO Is About to Be Wiped Off the Map 13:10 – 14:17 — The Day AEO Replaced SEO 15:18 – 16:38 — AI Traffic Is 100x More Valuable Than Google 20:12 – 21:09 — AI Trusts People, Not Brands 26:12 – 27:58 — The Schema Secret 88% of Websites Miss 22:06 – 23:24 — Why Google Rankings Won't Matter Soon 28:23 – 29:32 — Give for 3 Years, Monetize Once 7:01 – 8:41 — Exits Don't Fix Entrepreneurs 24:02 – 24:43 — Micro Authorities Will Beat Mega Brands 4:44 – 5:36 — My Billion-Dollar Moonshot Strategy   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #AI #Business #AEO #SEO

Most people think becoming a business owner means going "all in," risking your family, your savings, and your sanity. Scott did the opposite.   In this episode we break down how he moved from a high-paying W-2 career into ownership—step by step—by buying existing businesses, using smart tax strategy, and leveraging real estate instead of blind risk.   We cover: • Why buying existing beats starting from zero • How a long-term lease became a real estate power play • The tax planning most entrepreneurs never hear about • Building wealth without blowing up cash flow • What it actually takes to leave a W-2 safely   This isn't theory—it's a real roadmap for employees who want to become owners without gambling it all.   👉 Want help finding the right franchise or business? Visit: ScalableFranchise.com 👉 Join the free community: FranchiseSecrets.com/facebook   Timestamps: 00:00 – "I Was Hoping You'd Be a 3/10 Guest" 04:18 – Why Buy an Existing Business Instead of Starting One 07:46 – The Gradual Exit from a High-Paying W-2 12:55 – How Real Estate Makes You More Bankable 14:37 – The Tax Strategy Most Entrepreneurs Never Use 22:51 – Saving 70–80% in Taxes After Leaving W-2 31:32 – The Franchise That Nearly Took Us Out 35:46 – The Lease Trick That Bought a Building for Less 40:48 – Thinking Bigger Than Just Cash Flow 48:22 – Quitting the $200k W-2: The Emotional Reality   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchise #Business #FranchiseSecrets

Most franchise owners don't fail because of the business model—they fail because they optimize for the wrong thing.   In today's episode, Hunter Mitchem breaks down the profit-first mindset that traps thousands of single-unit franchisees…and how multi-unit owners think completely differently.   You'll learn: – Why your first location's "perfect margins" might be costing you long-term freedom – The mindset shift Hunter made to scale aggressively – How he opened 16 locations in 24 months – Why building a team early beats running lean – How real estate, franchising, and home services all compound – The real difference between owners who stay stuck…and owners who scale   Whether you're a new franchisee or already dreaming about multi-unit ownership, this episode gives you the clarity, frameworks, and mental models to finally break through.   Timestamps:   0:29:54 — The Profit-First Trap That Almost Held Us Back 0:30:45 — The Fundamental Reset Every Multi-Unit Owner Must Make 0:31:15 — Why We Stopped Optimizing for Day-One Profit 0:32:15 — When Opening More Units Makes You Worse…Before It Makes You Better 0:31:44 — How We Built a Team That Could Open Studios Without Us 0:14:18 — The ADHD + Anxiety Advantage in Entrepreneurship 0:09:12 — The Banking Strategy Behind Opening 16 Locations in 24 Months 0:07:14 — How Real Estate Became the Fuel for Every New Franchise We Opened 0:22:58 — Why We Built a Multi-Brand Wellness Platform Instead of Staying Small 0:18:21 — The Moment I Realized I Couldn't Scale Until I Learned to Delegate   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Entrepreneurship #Scaling #Mindset

On today's episode of Franchise Secrets, Erik Van Horn sits down with Nick Najjar—Cutco alum, Real Producers franchisee, multi-business owner, mobile home park investor, and all-around deal maker.   Nick breaks down the real roadmap from franchise operator… to entrepreneur… to true wealth builder.   You'll hear: • How Cutco shaped some of the greatest operators in franchising • How Nick launched multiple Real Producers markets • Why his entire wealth journey changed the day he hired the right operator • The truth about "passive investing" (and why it still takes work) • How he bought a roofing company at a great multiple • Why masterminds outperform mentors • How to evaluate ANY home-services business—franchise or not • What franchise buyers MUST compare: industry vs. franchisor • His mobile-home-park deal flow (and how he wholesaled for massive assignment fees) • Why your exit plan should be the FIRST question you ask   This episode is packed with strategy that applies whether you're a franchisee, an entrepreneur, or looking to acquire your first company.   📌 Join the FREE Franchise Secrets Facebook Group https://franchisesecrets.com/facebook   📌 Join the Franchisee Mastermind https://scalablefranchise.com   Timestamps: 00:00 – Why You Shouldn't Invest Too Early 06:06 – How a Franchise Became His Wealth Vehicle 08:40 – Hiring the Operator That Changed Everything 11:06 – Nick's Superpower: Deal Making 14:56 – Leveraging Offshore Talent to Scale Faster 18:37 – When True Mental Freedom Finally Clicked 22:03 – Why Masterminds Beat Mentors 25:46 – The Home-Services Deep Dive 33:32 – Operator Alignment vs. Industry Choice 47:27 – Your Exit Strategy Must Come First   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Entrepreneurship #Franchising #Wealth

Running a franchise is hard… but starting inside one of the hardest businesses in America? That's where grit is forged.   In this episode, Erik Van Horn and Jeff Herr go deep into their early days inside the tax business — the chaos, the break-ins, the angry customers, the 20-hour days, the software failures, and the pressure of thousands of franchisees depending on them.   These are the stories no one tells about franchising. And these are the lessons that built the problem-solving, strategist mindset they bring to the franchise world today.   Whether you're a franchisor, franchisee, or someone thinking about buying a franchise for time and financial freedom, this conversation will show you the real skillset that separates the pros from everyone else.   Key Takeaways:   -Why the hardest businesses produce the best franchise operators -Real war stories from the tax industry that shaped Erik and Jeff -How to build grit, resilience, and problem-solving ability -Why chaos teaches you more than comfort -How franchisees can think more strategically -The simple market test to measure your local brand awareness -How to stop living in the weeds and start thinking at CEO level   Timestamps:   00:00 – The Hardest Business We Ever Ran 03:00 – The Horse Story & Neighbor Garbage Lesson 04:41 – Early Tax Season War Stories 06:21 – Break-Ins, Exhaustion, and Chaos 07:32 – Jeff's Holiday Scar Tissue 09:11 – When Systems Break and Everyone's Angry 15:11 – Customer Pressure & Creating Raving Fans 17:21 – Stepping Back to Become a Strategic Entrepreneur 19:27 – Jeff's Evolution Into a Strategic Thinker 26:55 – Franchisee Strategy: Visibility, Local Branding & Market Penetration   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchise #Business #Leadership

Most businesses give you time to adjust. Seasonal businesses don't.   In this episode, we go deep into the reality of high-pressure seasonal franchises, where 80–90% of revenue hits in just weeks—and one bad decision can sink the entire year.   We unpack: -Why "working harder" isn't enough -How seasonality magnifies mistakes -What actually drives customers through the door -The grassroots strategies that outperformed paid ads -Lessons learned from opening hundreds of locations   If you've ever considered a seasonal franchise—or already own one—this episode will change how you think about time, marketing, and execution.   Timestamps: 00:00 – Why seasonal businesses punish mistakes fast 04:45 – The myth of "you can fix it later" 10:30 – 90% of revenue in six weeks: why timing is everything 18:40 – Why most franchisees work hard… and still lose 27:15 – The moment we realized marketing was the real bottleneck 36:50 – Grassroots marketing vs radio ads (what actually worked) 46:20 – The hub-and-spoke kiosk strategy that changed everything 58:05 – First-year franchise mistakes you can't afford 1:09:30 – Why seasonal businesses forge elite operators 1:18:40 – Lessons that still apply to franchises today   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchise #SeasonalBusiness #Business

Most people are using ChatGPT to avoid thinking — not to become better leaders, investors, or business owners.   In this episode, Erik Van Horn breaks down exactly how he uses AI as an advisor, not a yes-person. From family-office GPTs and tax strategy to deal analysis, franchise decisions, and leadership judgment — this is how AI should challenge your thinking instead of replacing it.   If you're using ChatGPT to move faster without thinking deeper, this episode will make you think about how you use AI.    Timestamps:  00:00 – ChatGPT Is Making Leaders Lazy (Better vs. Lazier) 01:27 – Why AI Becomes a "Yes Person" 03:54 – Using ChatGPT as an Advisor (Family Office GPT) 06:28 – Preparing for High-Stakes Franchise & Business Meetings 10:55 – LOIs, Deal Structure, and Saving Legal Costs 12:05 – Entity Structure, C-Corps, QSBS & Tax Strategy 16:54 – Why Most Business Owners Have Weak CPAs 20:03 – Augusta Rule: A Low-Hanging Tax Strategy 23:13 – Analyzing Financials & Company Performance with AI 31:04 – Leadership Decisions: Forcing AI to Challenge You   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx#9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #AI #Leadership #franchising

Most business owners believe their company is valuable because it makes money.   They're wrong.   In this solo episode, Erik Van Horn explains why owner-dependent businesses are worth far less than founders realize, even when they're profitable. If your business only works because you're involved in everything, buyers don't see an asset — they see a job.   Erik breaks down:   -The "most expensive org chart in America" -Why being indispensable kills enterprise value -A personal health scare that tested his businesses -The difference between cash flow and a sellable asset -How to start removing yourself as the bottleneck without blowing up the business   If you want real optionality — whether that's selling, stepping back, or building a better lifestyle — this episode will change how you think about your business.   Timestamps: 00:00 – The most expensive org chart in America 03:45 – Why doing everything weakens your business 07:20 – The pride trap of "I do it all" 11:40 – Why buyers avoid owner-dependent companies 15:55 – A real health scare that tested the systems 20:30 – What a healthy business looks like without the owner 25:10 – $500K working 60 hours vs $350K working 5 30:05 – Why growth can still drain cash 35:40 – Cash flow vs enterprise value 41:15 – The real test of business health 45:30 – Practical ways to remove yourself as the bottleneck 51:00 – The mindset shift founders must make 55:10 – Final takeaway: build for value, not ego   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #EnterpriseValue #Sellable #Systems

I've complained about franchisors — even great ones. But it wasn't until I experienced fear-based leadership firsthand that I truly understood what good partnerships actually look like.   In this solo episode of Franchise Secrets, I break down the partnership levers behind my best franchise deals — the exact ways partnerships have allowed me to scale across franchising, investing, advisory roles, and brand building without working nonstop or needing to own everything myself.   From early family partnerships to building Front Street, I walk through the real-world lessons that shaped how I evaluate partners today — including the difference between control and leverage, why fear kills franchise systems, and how the right partners help you build a much bigger pie.   If you're a franchisor, franchisee, or investor trying to grow smarter (not just harder), this episode will give you a framework you can actually use.   Timestamps:   00:00 – Complaining About Franchisors (Even the Great Ones) 02:25 – Why Leverage Is the Foundation of Great Partnerships 02:47 – Partnering With Family: Lessons From My Parents 04:47 – Why I Don't Need to Own 100% of the Business 06:53 – Lever #1: Distribution You Can't Buy Overnight 10:21 – Lever #2: Credibility and Becoming "The Franchise Guy" 14:03 – Lever #3: Speed, Alignment, and Moving Without Delay 18:04 – Lever #4: Insight and Specialized Expertise 22:03 – Lever #5: Capital and the Solo Salon Studios Story 30:32 – The Ultimate Test: When 1 + 1 Must Equal 11   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #FranchiseSecrets #BusinessPartnerships #FranchiseGrowth

Erik Van Horn and Jeff Herr break down one of the most explosive franchise categories ever created: salon suites. They reveal how the model went from unknown to industry-dominating, why private equity rushed in, and what made it one of the highest-leverage real estate plays in franchising. From early headwinds and financing challenges to scaling 10,000–29,000 sq ft locations, this episode offers a candid, behind-the-scenes look at disruption, growth, and building enterprise value in a new market.   Timestamps: 00:00 – Creating a Disruptive Franchise Category 02:50 – Storytelling Lessons From Napa 05:10 – Discovering the Salon Suite Opportunity 08:20 – The Real Estate Insight Behind Salon Suites 11:50 – When Sola Took Over the Industry Conversation 17:10 – Industry Resistance & Stylist Education Challenges 23:00 – The Million-Dollar Buildout Era Begins 27:30 – Financing Breakdowns and SBA Pullback 31:50 – Why Private Equity Loves This Model 38:40 – Scaling Into 10,000–29,000 Sq Ft Mega-Locations   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchising #Growth #Disruption

What separates great franchise founders from the ones who hold brands back?   In this unfiltered episode, Erik Van Horn and Bobby Brennan break down: -The traits elite founders all share -The biggest red flags Erik sees behind the scenes -Why "franchisee-first" founders always win -How to succeed even if your brand doesn't have a strong founder -The mindset shift founders MUST embrace ("It's not my fault, but it's my problem") -Why honesty, transparency, and problem-solving beat charisma and hype every time -How the best founders build trust with franchisees -What happens when ego gets in the way of growth   Whether you're a franchisee evaluating leadership, a founder trying to improve, or part of a growing system, this episode is PACKED with insider truths you won't hear anywhere else.   Timestamps: 00:00 – People are people: why founders and franchisees both make mistakes 00:47 – Why this episode exists: what Bobby has learned from 20+ founders 02:15 – "Great founder vs. disaster founder" — why it matters to franchisees 03:51 – Early red flags when evaluating a founder 04:17 – The power of a clear vision + the "bridge" analogy 05:16 – The problem with visionary founders hiring clones 05:44 – Why founders need charisma AND scars 06:37 – Hard times create seasoned leaders 07:33 – Behind closed doors: the questions Front Street gets to ask 09:49 – Franchisee-focused founders vs. bottom-line founders 11:37 – The integrity test: Item 7, Item 19, and honesty 13:25 – Ego, feedback, and what founders must get right 16:07 – The rough-around-the-edges founder who became a rocket ship 18:21 – Why selling "the hard truth" builds stronger franchisees 19:50 – The problem-solving mindset: "It's not my fault, but it's my problem" 21:40 – What GREAT founders do every day 25:30 – Who gets credit for success? (Spoiler: not the franchisor) 27:05 – How the best founders deal with unfair criticism 30:46 – How founders build trust 34:47 – Trust killers: legal letters, pointing to the FA, hiding problems 36:48 – Do the best founders invest in coaching and mastermind groups? 41:53 – How two top founders grew in totally different ways 45:49 – Why franchise brands must lean into AI NOW 46:37 – The final takeaway: quantify the leader YOU want to follow   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchising #Leadership #Founders

Hiring the wrong marketing leader can quietly destroy franchise growth. In this episode, Erik Van Horn and Aren Johnstone break down why CMOs from outside franchising—especially those coming from e-commerce or big-brand backgrounds—struggle and often fail inside franchise systems.   They reveal why franchising operates more like a political system than a corporation, how franchisees hold real power, why innovation gets blocked, and the cultural mistakes that erode trust.   If you're scaling or building a franchise, this episode will save you years of painful hiring mistakes.   Timestamps: 00:00 — Why outside marketers fail inside franchise systems 02:17 — AI, prep, and Aren's approach to productive conversations 04:28 — Inside vs outside franchising: the hiring dilemma 07:29 — How Franchise Ramp stays franchisee-first 09:42 — Why top-tier vendors avoid emerging brands 13:09 — Big-budget marketers vs the reality of franchising 17:39 — Why inside hires get stale & outside hires hit walls 23:09 — The political structure of franchising 30:48 — Managing difficult franchisees while protecting culture 41:41 — The winning hiring formula Aren recommends   Learn more about Franchise Ramp here: https://franchiseramp.com/   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchising #Growth #Leadership

In this episode, Erik and Adam unpack one of the most misunderstood levers in business: the speed of learning. Adam explains why the brands that win are the ones that learn fastest — not the ones with the biggest budgets — and why "failure" is the wrong word entirely. They dive into growth mindset vs. fixed mindset leadership, how to evaluate people you work with, how leaders accidentally kill innovation, and how to build teams that tell you the truth. They also touch on personal stories around kids, parenting, praise, and competitive sports (including Adam's controversial crossover into pickleball 😆). Whether you're a founder, franchisee, or emerging leader, this episode gives you frameworks you can use immediately to make better decisions, reduce risk, and grow faster.   What You'll Learn:   -Why speed and agility are the true competitive advantages today -How validated learning beats traditional "failure" thinking -Signs of fixed mindset leadership (and how to avoid it) -How Adam evaluates founders before coaching them -Why ego slows growth and how to build a truth-telling culture -Parenting parallels that create future leaders -The connection between flow state, performance, and openness -How to reframe team conflict using curiosity instead of defensiveness   Who This Episode Is For: Franchise founders, CEOs, franchisees, operators, multi-brand builders, investors, and anyone who wants to grow faster with fewer mistakes.   Timestamps: 00:00  Why speed and agility are the ultimate competitive advantage 01:53  Consumer brands, noise, and how customers choose today 03:29  Distribution is no longer a moat; brand is everything 04:31  How elite leaders think about resource allocation 06:14  Adding people: expense vs. investment 07:05  "Fail in a week, not in three months" — and why 09:11  Growth mindset vs. fixed mindset — definitions that matter 12:30  How Adam tests whether a founder has a growth mindset 16:54  Parenting parallels: praise the effort, not the outcome 28:50  How fixed-minded leaders react vs. growth-minded leaders   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Growth #Leadership #Franchising

AI isn't here to replace entrepreneurs—it's here to amplify how we think. In this episode, Erik Van Horn breaks down exactly how he uses AI as a "thinking partner" to analyze FDDs, research industries, and uncover opportunities that 99% of franchise buyers overlook. Learn how to build your own custom GPTs for research, due diligence, and marketing—and why the right inputs always lead to the right output.   Timestamps:   00:00 – The GPT Should Know Everything About You 02:33 – Using AI as a Thinking Partner 04:04 – Treat AI Like a $10,000/hour Advisor 06:21 – How I Built a Website in a Day With AI 07:40 – Building Custom GPTs for Your Brand 10:11 – How I Use AI to Analyze FDDs 12:24 – Spotting Private Equity Opportunities With AI 17:00 – Create Better Prompts, Get Better Results 20:20 – AI as Your Copywriter, Not Your Voice 26:37 – Analyzing Item 7 and Item 19 With AI   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchise #AI #entrepreneurship

What does "semi-absentee" actually mean — and what does it cost to get there?   Erik Van Horn shares the hard-earned lessons from owning multiple franchise brands, including the moment his manager got arrested right before tax season. Instead of panicking, his systems held — revealing the true power of leverage and layers.   You'll learn: ✅ The difference between managing and truly leading ✅ How to build redundancies that protect your income ✅ The real ROI of buying back your time ✅ How to move from owner-operator → district manager → semi-absentee ✅ Why freedom in franchising isn't free — but it's worth it   Timestamps:   00:00 The Call That Changed Everything  02:00 Why Most Franchise Owners Never Go Semi-Absentee  04:30 What Semi-Absentee Ownership Really Means  07:30 From One Location to Many  10:00 The Multi-Unit Manager Mindset  13:30 The Moment Systems Saved My Business  16:30 The Real Cost of Freedom ($150K Lesson)  20:00 Buying Back Time: The Practical Playbook 24:00 The District Manager Trap  28:00 Freedom Through Structure    Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL    #Franchise #Freedom #Systems

Everyone wants an AI silver bullet—but franchise success still comes down to execution. In this episode, Erik Van Horn and Brian Holmes (Franchise Ramp, AI Front Desk) break down how real operators are using AI to scale without losing culture, quality, or profit. Learn how AI saves 65,000+ hours, the truth behind "failed" AI pilots, and why most leaders still get it wrong.   👉 Subscribe for more franchise growth, systems, and scaling insights: FranchiseSecrets.com   Timestamps: 00:00 – The myth of the silver bullet in business 01:19 – The first time Eric heard about ChatGPT 04:20 – How Brian's Liberty Tax days shaped his franchise mindset 05:46 – Building Franchise Ramp: from 0 to 1,200 locations 06:17 – Why culture drives every result at Franchise Ramp 10:33 – Why saying "no" creates world-class execution 11:51 – The AI hype vs. the real business impact 17:10 – How to spot fake AI vendors and bad pilots 26:49 – The real problem AI Front Desk solves for franchises 47:53 – The results: 1.1M tasks done and 65,000 hours saved   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchise #AI #Systems

Everyone wants time freedom, but few understand what it costs.   Franchisee Alex Read joins Erik Van Horn to share his journey from the early days of 1-800-GOT-JUNK to building with Modern PURAIR. After years of experience and a few expensive mistakes, Alex reveals why you can't just throw money at the problem — and why real success requires being two feet in.   They unpack the difference between delegating and abdicating, the truth about semi-absentee ownership, and why emerging brands demand leaders, not investors.   If you've ever dreamed of owning your time through franchising, this episode is a wake-up call.   Topics Covered:   -Why "semi-absentee" can become "fully absent" -The reality of emerging franchise brands -Building culture vs. hiring for convenience -The value of failure and how it shapes real entrepreneurs -What 1-800-GOT-JUNK taught Alex about leadership and growth   Timestamps:    00:00 – You Can't Shortcut Time Freedom 02:55 – From the UK to Canada: Starting Over from Scratch 04:30 – Discovering 1-800-GOT-JUNK 07:28 – Hire for Spark, Not Just Skill 09:30 – The Power of Vision and Accountability 12:34 – Why I Bought a Second Brand 15:48 – The Brand I Said I'd Never Buy 21:50 – The Truth About Semi-Absentee Ownership 25:54 – You Can't Outsource Grit 29:03 – When the GM Leaves, So Does Your Freedom   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #FranchiseSecrets #Franchising #Entrepreneurship #BusinessGrowth #FranchisePodcast #TimeFreedom #Leadership #EmergingBrands #FranchiseOwner #AlexRead #ErikVanHorn #BusinessMindset

So many franchise buyers think "semi-absentee ownership" means passive income — but that couldn't be further from the truth.   In this episode, Erik Van Horn (host of Franchise Secrets) breaks down what semi-absentee really looks like once the hype fades and reality hits. From bad hires to broken systems, Erik explains how he learned — the hard way — that you have to earn the right to step back.   You'll learn:   -Why passive franchise ownership is mostly a myth -The difference between semi-absentee and absentee models -How to avoid checking out too early and ending up "back in the weeds" -What systems, people, and culture you must build first -How to design your business for real freedom -If you've ever been sold the dream of mailbox money, this is your wake-up call.   Timestamps:   00:00 – The painful lesson I learned from checking out too early 01:00 – The fantasy of semi-absentee ownership 03:40 – The "London scenario" that exposes your weak spots 06:54 – Ask this emotional question before buying any franchise 07:54 – Why "absentee franchise" is a red flag 09:20 – What true semi-absentee success actually looks like 14:17 – How lazy delegation destroys your business 18:51 – The real currency of freedom: systems 22:32 – Using AI and playbooks to scale smarter 37:44 – Don't chase lifestyle too early — earn it first   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #FranchiseSecrets #FranchiseOwnership #PassiveIncome

Thinking about buying a franchise? Erik Van Horn and Bobby Brennan break down the real journey: from the "fee stage" burn to stabilization, optimization, and finally scale or exit. We cover why "passive" is a myth, how to avoid starving your marketing, when (and when not) to use profit sharing, and what separates podium revenue from real EBITDA.   Timestamps:    00:00 Don't buy a franchise for short-term income 00:42 Intro: Franchise Secrets w/ Eric & Bobby 01:12 The "passive" myth & real losses 02:51 Transparency from operators & brokers 12:40 Phase 1: Investment/Burn (intentional negative cash flow) 22:54 Phase 2: Stabilization (6–18 months) 33:02 Phase 3: Optimization (18–36 months) 44:08 Phase 4: Scale or Exit (Years 3–7) 49:06 Owner vs employee mindset (long-term wealth) 51:54 Wrap-up + resources & links   Connect with Erik Van Horn: 🌐 Website - https://franchisesecrets.com/    📷 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/erikvanhorn/   👍 Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/erik.v.horn/   💼 LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanhorn/    Best Franchise Starter Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMlgRgsBAo4LWNCMSOthnK0r&si=TD1z25-ie2d23rGm https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMle5_OUXiuLbc_UPBtz1vTE&si=uCOgDya1VnnCarDf https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEithd54kMk2Kw07KwZGWgF8UTx9N5_T&si=ZldjBOqFanGE-JUL   #Franchise #Franchisee #FranchiseSecrets