The Debra Shepherd Podcast

I’m honoured to welcome Tanya Boots to The Debra Shepherd Podcast this week. Tanya is the Founder of Inspirational Tea Co., a Gold Coast–based tea gifting brand that turns everyday tea breaks into moments of inspiration. After 15 years in FMCG as a Category Manager, Tanya swapped spreadsheets for teabags, creating premium whole-leaf teas with motivational quotes on every tag. Beyond the cup, Tanya has built a warm community of tea lovers who connect through shared rituals, events, and micro-gifting moments. Tanya’s mission is to inspire busy women to pause, connect, and feel supported — one cup at a time.  In this episode, Tanya shares her business story. We talk about kindness, giving back, connection, community, personal branding and business. HIGHLIGHTS Tanya shares her business story and how Inspirational Tea Co. began. What makes Tanya’s tea unique and how she is creating connection and incredible experiences through tea.   What it was like moving from corporate to starting Inspirational Tea Co. Tanya shares three business lessons she’s learned along the way.  Tanya talks about her self-care practice and how she includes tea in her daily rituals.  Why customers today are looking for authenticity, connection and community.  Why community is an essential part of building a business.  The importance of communicating your values, building community and your personal brand as a business owner or entrepreneur.  What creating a meaningful life and business means to Tanya.   SHOW NOTES Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast     CONNECT WITH TANYA www.inspirationalteaco.com.au Instagram @InspirationalTeaCo   CONNECT WITH DEBRA www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Join the FREE Aligned Visibility Masterclass Download the FREE Visibility Breakthrough Work With Debra   SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!

I’m thrilled to welcome Kelly Donougher, Director and Founder of 13 Interiors to The Debra Shepherd Podcast this week.  With over 20 years business experience across a range of industries, Kelly founded 13 Interiors in 2017. Since then, the business has grown to operate on a national scale with studios in Perth and Melbourne.  Kelly is a speaker, mentor, author and one of Australia’s leading interior designers. Kelly regularly features across a range of media publications and outlets, including Adore Magazine, Home Beautiful, The West Australian, Perth Home Show, Channel 9, Snooze Australia, Summit Homes Group, 6PR Radio, Business Chicks, Domain.com.au and News.com.au and regularly presents workshops and demonstrations at design and styling events.  In 2025 Kelly published her first book, No Fence, No Limits which is about Kelly’s unconventional path to success and the journey of challenging the status quo and perceptions of what life should look like for a woman. No Fence, No Limits shares the raw and emotional ups and downs of Kelly’s path to creating 13 Interiors which she hopes will inspire others to take the leap into the unknown and embrace their path on their own terms.     HIGHLIGHTS Kelly talks about her story and how 13 Interiors evolved.   Kelly’s book, No Fence, No Limits focuses on the expectations of women and how you imagine your life going in a certain direction and what happens when things pivot or change direction.   What it was like moving from the mining industry to interior design.  How creativity was a constant theme in Kelly’s life.  Kelly opens up about success.  The importance of having a support network and the right people around you.  Why it’s never too late to change.  Comparison can creep into everyday life, but you are the only one who can change that and how it affects you.  Kelly talks about what creating a meaningful life and business means to her.  Through the greatest adversity amazing things can still happen.  The importance of mindset, boundaries and how to move forward through challenging and difficult times.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast     CONNECT WITH KELLY   www.kellydonougher.com.au Instagram @kelly_donougher www.13interiors.com Instagram @13Interiors   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Join the FREE Aligned Visibility Masterclass Download the FREE Visibility Breakthrough Work With Debra   SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!

I’m honoured to welcome Bethan Winn to The Debra Shepherd Podcast. Bethan is the Founder and Director of Learning at Human Skills Co. She is a speaker, facilitator and author of the book, The Human Edge Critical Thinking in the Age of AI. With two decades in education, Bethan is an expert in critical thinking and communication skills. Bethan helps leaders and teams get clarity and gain confidence in their communication, decision making and problem solving.   In this episode, Bethan shares her story. We talk about critical thinking, AI, the importance of connection and creating space for ourselves.    HIGHLIGHTS How Bethan became interested in critical thinking and why she started her business Human Skills Co.  How critical thinking is about skills, knowledge and attitudes. Critical thinking focuses on how to think not what to think.   Applying critical thinking in a fast-paced world.   The relationship between AI and critical thinking and a powerful question to ask every time you use AI. Why it’s important to engage in defensive thinking when using AI. Why Bethan wrote the book, The Human Edge Critical Thinking in the Age of AI.  The power of connection, creating space and building relationships.  Why we must think through our thinking. What creating a meaningful life and business means to Bethan.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast     CONNECT WITH BETHAN www.bethanwinn.com.au www.humanskills.com.au Connect with Bethan on LinkedIn Follow Bethan on Instagram @Bethan_Winn_Critical_Thinking   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Work With Debra   SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!

Your personal brand will set you apart, it’s how you’ll be remembered, and it goes way beyond pretty pictures, visuals and logos. Building your personal brand is essential for all business owners, entrepreneurs and leaders. In this episode of The Debra Shepherd Podcast, I’m sharing seven things to consider when it comes to building your personal brand that will build trust, connection and authority. SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!

This quick conversation on The Debra Shepherd Podcast, is a dose of inspiration. We’re talking about fear, perfection, visibility and what is holding you back from showing up. SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!  

If you're a coach, consultant, creative, online expert or service-based entrepreneur who is working hard to increase your visibility. You’re doing all the things, implementing all the strategies, tips and tools to build your profile and presence but you still feel invisible, this quick conversation on The Debra Shepherd Podcast is for you.  SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!  

In this episode of The Debra Shepherd Podcast, I talk about the power of energy management for finding balance during the season you are in and why I’m diving into Human Design. SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!  

I’m honoured to welcome Sara Howard to The Debra Shepherd Podcast. Sara Howard is a copywriter, content marketer, author and founder of Writers Australia, a copywriting and content agency she spent 18 years growing into the go-to writing team for major corporates and not-for-profits.  While growing her agency from very-part-time-while-wrangling-toddlers to a talented in-house team and impressive roster of clients, Sara pioneered a different kind of agency culture.  With a background in content strategy and business growth, she has developed a deep understanding of how to build a successful business while maintaining work-life balance.  In this episode, Sara shares her story and discusses how to grow your business beyond solo. HIGHLIGHTS The importance of connection and relationship building in business. Sara shares the three biggest lessons she has learned in business. Using AI as a tool and why keeping your content human has never been more important. Sara talks about her new book; Beyond Solo there’s more than one way to grow your business. Beyond Solo is the guide Sara wishes she’d had at the start of her business journey.  Sara shares the five essential ingredients for a sustainable platform for growth in any kind of business. What it means to grow better. SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH SARA www.writers.net.au www.beyondsolo.co Connect with Sara on LinkedIn Follow Sara on Instagram @SaraHoward_Writes CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Get the Aligned Message Scorecard Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!

Is it time to redefine your definition of success? In this quick conversation on The Debra Shepherd Podcast, I talk about aligned success, what it is and why it looks and feels different to the version of success we’re constantly being sold.  SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Get the Aligned Message Scorecard Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!  

If you’re a business owner or entrepreneur, this episode is a must listen because I know you have an important message to share. Today on The Debra Shepherd Podcast, you’ll discover why your message may not be landing with your audience. In the episode I share some common mistakes and talk about what an aligned message looks like.  SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Get the Aligned Message Scorecard Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!  

Increasing your visibility is essential if you’re an entrepreneur or business owner but many fall into the trap of chasing visibility and wind up feeling drained and invisible. In this episode, we'll talk about why chasing visibility is draining you and what to focus on instead. SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Website www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Register for the Aligned Visibility Masterclass Work With Debra SUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review on Apple Podcasts. Your review will help other entrepreneurs and business owners discover the show. Thank you!  

Work-life balance doesn’t exist. In this epiosde of The Debra Shepherd Podcast, I share my approach to finding balance and flow along with a few things to consider if you would like more balance and flow in your life this year. LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoyed this episode, I invite you to leave a 5 star review with your biggest takeaway from the episode. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Work With Me www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Discover why a fast paced, hurried lifestyle is failing you–and what works instead. Ready to transform your life and business? Download my free audio.

Did you create space for your New Year goals or did you jump in? This is my question for you during this episode of The Debra Shepherd Podcast. LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoyed this episode, I invite you to leave a 5 star review with your biggest takeaway from the episode. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  Work With Me www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Discover why a fast paced, hurried lifestyle is failing you–and what works instead. Ready to transform your life and business? Download my free audio.  

I'm honoured to welcome Marg Booth to The Debra Shepherd Podcast this week. Marg is the owner of Great Expectation Speakers and Trainers.  As a successful business owner for over 20 years, Marg is deeply passionate about people’s mindset and well-being.  Marg connects audiences with specialists in their field of expertise. She works with thought leaders offering educational sessions in wellness, mindset, resilience, and leadership. And, some of these are shared in her book, The Time Poor Series: Mindset. In this episode, Marg shares her business story. We talk about about mindset, success, happiness, leadership, performance and her book, The Time Poor Series: Mindset. HIGHLIGHTS A powerful question Marg asked herself before moving into a new career and her business, Great Expectation Speakers and Trainers. How the small things and embracing small wins can lead to success. How the events industry stopped in 2020 and why this prompted Marg to develop an app and write her book, The Time Poor Series: Mindset. Marg talks about The Time Poor Series: Mindset and shares some of the topics and insights from the 30 co-authors of the book that will support your mindset, leadership, performance, mental health and wellbeing. The importance of working on your mindset in a fast paced world that is only moving faster. Marg’s piece of advice for the busy entrepreneur, business owner or leader. Plus, more! LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoy the podcast, leave a 5 star review. Let me know your favourite episode, interview, biggest takeaway or most inspiring moment. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH MARG www.timepoor.me Instagram @timepoorseries www.greatexpectation.com.au CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Get my FREE audio: The Power of Simplicity. 9 powerful reasons why simplicity will transform your life and business. www.debrashepherd.com.au/the-power-of-simplicity

I'm honoured to welcome Dara Simkin to The Debra Shepherd Podcast this week. Dara is Australia’s leading Playful Work Design specialist, and is the founder and Chief Play Officer of learning experience design consultancy, Culture Hero. She has worked with organisations like The LEGO Foundation, McKinsey & Co, Silicon Valley's IDEO Play Lab and world-renowned play researcher Dr Stuart Brown and has presented to brands like IKEA, AGL, Royal Canin, MYOB and Google. As an expert facilitator and passionate advocate for the potential of play in the workplace, Dara believes play has the power to transform the way we live, work and lead. In 2024 Dara is undertaking a major research project exploring the impact of play in business in partnership with RMIT University. In this episode, Dara shares her story. We talk about connection, engagement, culture, creativity, innovation and incorporating play into business and the way we work. HIGHLIGHTS How play changes the way we live, work and lead.  The impact of new technology on business and why businesses must be adaptable and flexible to survive.  Dara explains why play is important in business and shares examples of what play is and isn’t.  How Dara and her team at Culture Hero incorporate play into the way they work.  Giving your people an opportunity to play in business.  Dara shares the benefits of integrating play into business as well as tips and advice to businesses that may be hesitant about incorporating play into the workplace.   Why we can’t be at our best creatively or effectively drive innovation without play.  The importance of imagination breaks during the day.  Why a psychologically safe and trusting workplace is essential for integrating play into business.   Dara shares tips for business owners, entrepreneurs and leaders wanting to incorporate play into business.  Plus, more! LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoy the podcast, leave a 5 star review. Let me know your favourite episode, interview, biggest takeaway or most inspiring moment. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DARA www.culturehero.co www.darasimkin.com CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Get my FREE audio: The Power of Simplicity. 9 powerful reasons why simplicity will transform your life and business. www.debrashepherd.com.au/the-power-of-simplicity

I'm honoured to welcome Claire Seeber to The Debra Shepherd Podcast this week. Claire is a Career and Leadership Coach, Trainer, Speaker, Podcast Host and Author of the book 'Less Hustle, More Happy'. Claire is an expert in career development and leadership and blends her experience in business, HR and communications to ensure that people are better able to show up and have the most impact on themselves, their teams and their organisations that they can feel proud of. Claire has worked with or for some of the world's most well-known brands including NBC Universal, Fortescue Metals Group, Chevron, Superdry, Mineral Resources and Colgate-Palmolive. Claire has also been featured in Huffington Post, Business News, The West Australian and Take 5. Claire believes that we can do serious work, but not take ourselves too seriously, and she aims to bring that attitude into everything she does. In this episode, Claire shares her incredible business story and we talk about her book, ‘Less Hustle, More Happy’. HIGHTLIGHTS The heart of Claire’s book, Less Hustle More Happy.  Redefining your definition of success. Contributors factors and layers that lead to disengagement at work and business. The importance of integrating more human being and less human doing in the way we work. The future of work and the importance of flexibility and adaptability. Claire discusses the shift in conversations around how we work resulting from a multi-generational workforce and the pandemic. How relationships accelerate growth. Why having a career strategy is essential. How to create a happiness culture where people come first. Plus, more! LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoy the podcast, leave a 5 star review. Let me know your favourite episode, interview, biggest takeaway or most inspiring moment. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH CLAIRE www.claireseeber.com.au Instagram @eatingyourcaketoo CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Get my FREE audio: The Power of Simplicity. 9 powerful reasons why simplicity will transform your life and business. www.debrashepherd.com.au/the-power-of-simplicity

As we are head towards the end of the year, I thought it timely to talk about the importance of taking small steps and making one per cent improvements or changes every day towards your life or business goals. Join me for this quick conversation on The Debra Shepherd Podcast. LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoyed this episode, I invite you to leave a 5 star review with your biggest takeaway from the episode. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd   Get my FREE audio: The Power of Simplicity. 9 powerful reasons why simplicity will transform your life and business. www.debrashepherd.com.au/the-power-of-simplicity    

I am honoured to welcome Co-Founders of Bettercup, Christie Kamphuis and Sam Stone to The Debra Shepherd Podcast. Bettercup is a female-founded, award-winning, purpose-led enterprise founded in Melbourne and launched in 2018. As Australia’s most trusted reusable cup and reuse system supplier for major events and venues, Bettercup has cemented a place within the industry with an authentic reputation. Bettercup is dedicated to creating smart and scalable environmental solutions for events that reduce unnecessary single-use waste at the source.  In this episode, Christie and Sam share their business story and their mission to eliminate single-use plastic from event waste streams. HIGHLIGHTS Why Christie and Sam started Bettercup, including how they self-funded the business and their focus on prioritising locally made products. The impact one event can make by switching to a tailored reuse model. Why Bettercup is the expert in reuse and their emphasis on responsible product stewardship. How Bettercup educates and supports events, venues and organisations successfully implement a reusable system. Immediate and ongoing benefits experienced by clients partnering with Bettercup as well as patrons at the events.  The importance of taking small steps and focusing on the most sustainable reuse system over time. Taking a circular economy approach to reuse. Friendship, leadership, self-care and managing life and business. Plus, more! LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoy the podcast, leave a 5 star review. Let me know your favourite episode, interview, biggest takeaway or most inspiring moment. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH BETTERCUP www.bettercup.com.au Instagram @bettercup_ CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd  

I am excited to welcome Emma Lovell to The Debra Shepherd Podcast. Emma is an author, master of ceremonies, speaker and business coach who supports people to combine business, travel and self-care in what she calls the ‘bleisure’ lifestyle. The personal branding and remote business expert has run her consulting and coaching business for 15 years while travelling to 75 countries around the world. Her goal is to visit each of the 195 Member States of the United Nations by 2037. As host of the podcast The Emma Lovell Show, she has interviewed leading businesswomen and thought leaders from around the world. She is also a travel writer, with her articles appearing in national magazines. In this episode of The Debra Shepherd Podcast, Emma shares her story, and we talk about her new book, The Art of Bleisure. HIGHLIGHTS The importance of living a life you love, now! Why living a bleisure lifestyle is personal to you and how it changes depending on the season you’re in. Emma’s world stopped when she broke her back. Emma talks about the power of mindset, kindness and forgiveness in her recovery. Why Emma wrote The Art of Bleisure. Emma talks about the power of connection and what travel means to her. Common myths about combining work and travel. The importance of looking within yourself to stay grounded. Emma talks about success and what self-care means to her. Plus, more! LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoy the podcast, leave a 5 star review. Let me know your favourite episode, interview, biggest takeaway or most inspiring moment. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH EMMA www.emmalovell.au www.emmalovell.au/book Connect with Emma on Instagram CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd  

I am honoured to welcome Cherie Mylordis to the The Debra Shepherd Podcast. Cherie is a leadership, transformation and innovation coach, work futurist and speaker who is on a mission to help organisations reimagine the world of work for a better future. Cherie’s ambitious approach is founded on her belief that now is the time for bold leadership and transformation, because traditional methods no longer serve us. Through decades of experience, Cherie has gained deep insights into the challenges organisations face and has published a white paper about her research with leaders around the world. As the founder of nextgenify, Cherie equips current and emerging leaders to amplify their impact through contemporary coaching, workshops and signature talks. Cherie’s vision is to create a world where work is a platform for people to make a difference, drive meaningful change and contribute to a better world. In this episode of The Debra Shepherd Podcast, Cherie shares her business story. We discuss purpose, leadership, stepping out of your comfort zone, doing meaningful work and what leaders can learn from the Olympic Games and integrate into business. Plus, so much more!  HIGHLIGHTS Cherie shares her story from being on the Sydney 2000 Olympics Organising Committee to founding nextgenify. What leaders can take away from the Olympic Games and integrate into business. How to get your team aligned to your business vision and purpose. The traits of contemporary leaders. How the key to future fit leadership is about working in 3D (Dare. Ditch. Dial). The importance of pausing and reflecting on what matters most to you What would you love to influence if you could do the best work of your life? LEAVE A REVIEW ON APPLE PODCASTS If you enjoy the podcast, leave a 5 star review. Let me know your favourite episode, interview, biggest takeaway or most inspiring moment. Follow or subscribe to the show to be notified when new episodes are released.    SHOW NOTES   Get all episode show notes here:   www.debrashepherd.com.au/debra-shepherd-podcast   CONNECT WITH CHERIE www.nextgenify.com CONNECT WITH DEBRA  www.debrashepherd.com.au Instagram @_DebraShepherd