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Eurovision News Podcast: A behind-the-scenes look at public service media news.
The Eurovision News Podcast is a bi-monthly podcast that explores how public service media organizations across Europe and beyond deliver trustworthy and reliable news to their audiences. Each episode features an interview with a guest who shares their insights, experiences, and challenges in their area of expertise. The podcast covers topics such as media freedom and safety, misinformation and disinformation, audience engagement and trust, digital transformation and sustainability. The podcast is produced by the EBU, the world’s leading alliance of public service media. If you are interested in journalism and public service media, this podcast is for you. Tune in and learn from the best practices, innovations, and collaborations of public service media around the world.
The Eurovision News Podcast is a bi-monthly podcast that explores how public service media organizations across Europe and beyond deliver trustworthy and reliable news to their audiences. Each episode features an interview with a guest who shares their insights, experiences, and challenges in their area of expertise. The podcast covers topics such as media freedom and safety, misinformation and disinformation, audience engagement and trust, digital transformation and sustainability. The podcast is produced by the EBU, the world’s leading alliance of public service media. If you are interested in journalism and public service media, this podcast is for you. Tune in and learn from the best practices, innovations, and collaborations of public service media around the world.
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The European Broadcasting Union's 2025 News Report -- Leading Newsrooms in the Age of Generative AI -- has just been published. In this episode, Laurent Frat speaks with Dr Alexandra Borchardt, the lead author, and Olle Zachrison, Director of AI at Swedish Radio.
We dive into the insights and practical steps in the report -- from the tech advances, industry trends and public adoption of AI to the benefits and risks of integrating AI into newsgathering. Our conversation highlights the importance of quality journalism, human creativity and collaboration by public service media in navigating this new information age while protecting the integrity and reliability of the news.
In this episode, we delve into the latest report by the EBU Investigative Journalism Network's (IJN), "Playing with Fire," which uncovers the extent of Russian hybrid attacks in European countries. This cross-border project, carried out by EBU Members in ten countries, reveals among other things how low-level agents, often recruited via social media, are orchestrating cyberattacks, arson, vandalism, sabotage, and election interference campaigns.
Join Belen Lopez Garrido, the IJN editorial manager, as she sits down with two of the collaborating journalists, Indre Makaraityté from Lithuanian Broadcaster LRT and Luc Van Bakel from VRT in Belgium. Together, they share first-hand experiences and insights into the reporting of the story and the challenges of attributing these covert operations to the Russian state. This episode offers an in-depth look at the investigation that presents how these attacks aim to destabilize European societies and undermine support for Ukraine.
- Read the full investigation here: https://investigations.news-exchange.ebu.ch/playing-with-fire-are-russias-hybrid-attacks-the-new-european-war/
In this episode, Cilla Benko, Director General of Swedish Radio and Vice President of the EBU, joins Laurent Frat on the sidelines of Radio Days Europe 2025 in Athens. Cilla talks about innovative AI projects aimed at enhancing user experience and about the future of radio in cars. She delves into the continued resilience and role of radio in the evolving media landscape, and the importance of trustworthy news content. This is an in-depth interview with one of the industry's leading figures on the role of public service radio in today's media ecosystem.
Laurence Brecx, Eric Feijten, and Charlie McGrath join Laurent Frat to discuss Hostile Environment Safety Training (HEST). They share valuable insights and stories about the importance of preparation, the role of digital security, the advantages of networking within the course, and the unique challenges faced by journalists in high-risk environments. The conversation highlights practical tips, and the need for proper training.
If you would like to learn more about the HEST course offered by the EBU Academy, you can click the following link: https://academy.ebu.ch/hest-hostile-environment-safety-training---in-person
Jan-Christoph Kitzler, a correspondent with ARD in Tel Aviv, covers conflicts in Gaza, the West Bank, and nearby regions. In this interview, he shares the challenges of reporting in war zones, including a harrowing experience of being held at gunpoint and detained by Israeli soldiers in the West Bank. Jan discusses the balance required when reporting sensitive issues, the limitations imposed by Israel's media blackout in Gaza, and measures to mitigate risks and support the physical and mental health of journalists in conflict areas. He emphasizes the need for transparency in journalism, strategies to regain public trust, and the role of innovative formats like podcasts in engaging audiences.
In this special episode of the Eurovision News Podcast, in collaboration with the Public Media Alliance, Harry Lock hosts an in-depth interview with Kevin Bakhurst, the new Director General of Irish broadcaster RTÉ. They discuss the revival and future of the broadcaster, exploring significant challenges and transformative decisions to restore trust in the network following a series of financial scandals. They also touch on the desire to inspire RTÉ to become one of the top broadcasters in Europe, and innovative five-year strategies and digital investments to reach the goal.
Find out more about PMA's podcast, Media Uncovered here: https://www.publicmediaalliance.org/media-uncovered-podcast/
In this episode, Laurent Frat sits down with Laura Ellis, Head of Technology and Forecasting at the BBC. They cover a wide variety of topics including the impact of machine learning on journalism, content recommendations, the ethics involved, and projects like C2PA that aim to verify media provenance. Laura shares insights on how the BBC adapts to changing audience habits, tackles misinformation, and the importance of information literacy. The conversation also touches on the evolving role of AI in content creation and how public service media can navigate the rapidly changing landscape.
Join host Laurent Frat as he speaks with Klaus Schneider and Alexiane Lerouge about A European Perspective, a collaborative project that uses AI to translate and share news with millions of people across Europe. They discuss the growing demand for local stories that resonate with pan-European audiences and discuss the editorial processes behind the platform. Highlights include surprising stories like Lithuania's new role as a watermelon producer due to climate change, Germany's cash-based culture, and the increase in euthanasia requests in Belgium. The conversation also explores their vision for enhancing cross-cultural news exchange, tackling fake news, and supporting greater community awareness across Europe.
Kaori Iida and her team at NHK have been at the forefront of tackling the growing spread of digital misinformation in Japan.
In this episode, Emilio San Pedro speaks with Kaori, about the unique concept of 'Impression Zombies,' a new phenomenon emerging in Japan's media landscape.
Their discussion covers how these zombies amplify disinformation and their wide-ranging impacts which have even included delaying disaster response efforts.
Emilio and Kaori also discuss NHK's pre-bunking strategies, their social listening team, and the vital role of human oversight in combating digital misinformation.
Join host Laurent Frat as he sits down with Judy Parnall from the BBC to chat C2PA, an open standard designed to verify the origins and history of digital media in the fight against misinformation. In this episode, Judy unpacks the complexities of C2PA, exploring how it’s shaping the future of media authenticity and content certification in journalism. They discuss its role in building trust and transparency, the ethical challenges it addresses, and the collaborative efforts needed for successful implementation. The episode also closes with a look at how broadcasters and tech companies must continue innovating and working together to safeguard content integrity.
Kalle Kovacs, Digital Editor at Swedish Radio, joins Laurent Frat to explore the integration of AI in journalism. As an advocate for AI’s creative potential and an expert in effective prompting, Kalle discusses the impact of AI when used creatively and effectively by journalists. This episode delves into the rapid evolution of AI, ethical considerations, and the importance of skepticism to ensure responsible use. Kalle emphasizes the significance of clear communication with LLMs, addresses data privacy concerns, and shares his approach to maintaining a human touch in AI-assisted journalism. The conversation concludes with a look at the promising future of collaboration among EBU members to enhance accessibility and efficiency.
Valeria Kovtun is an expert in countering disinformation and building cognitive resilience. She is the founder of Filter, Ukraine’s first governmental media literacy institution. With host Laurent Frat, Valeria delves into the concept of cognitive resilience within the realm of media literacy, focusing on the misinformation and propaganda tactics employed by Russia.
Valeria shares insights on the importance of psychological resilience and personal agency in combating disinformation. The discussion highlights how long-term propaganda strategies, such as rewriting history and fostering distrust, have affected Ukrainian society. They also explore contemporary methods of spreading propaganda, including AI-generated content, and the challenges faced by the Ukrainian government and media in addressing these issues.
Valeria Kovtun on LinkedIn
In this episode, Laurent Frat sits down with Dr. Steven MacGregor, a leading expert in workplace health and wellbeing. They delve into the critical importance of integrating wellbeing into the workplace, especially for journalists and news professionals who face unique challenges.
Dr. MacGregor clarifies the essential distinctions between wellbeing and wellness, advocating for daily consistency instead of sporadic efforts. He shares practical strategies for managing stress and enhancing rest in high-pressure environments.
Tune in for valuable insights and actionable advice to improve your workplace wellbeing.
You can connect with Steven on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/spmacg/ , visit his website stevenmacgregor.com , and his book The Daily Reset: 365 Days of Wellbeing is available worldwide on Amazon.
The European Broadcasting Union has recently published its 2024 News Report entitled “Trusted Journalism in the Age of Generative AI.” In this episode, Laurent Frat speaks with Prof. Alexandra Borchardt, PhD, the report’s lead author, and Ezra Eeman, Director of Strategy & Innovation at NPO.
They discuss how generative AI is widely believed to be a game-changer for media accessibility and inclusiveness; however, it may also present a significant challenge to the media sector by diminishing the visibility of journalism.
The conversation also touches on the growing reliance on the services of large tech conglomerates and the broader societal and environmental repercussions.
Acknowledging the challenges that AI can also bring, their exchange concludes with some advice on the role that journalists and media organizations have to play.
- Read the report here: https://www.ebu.ch/guides/open/report/news-report-2024-trusted-journalism-in-the-age-of-generative-aiNews Report 2024: Trusted Journalism in the Age of AI
- Watch Alexandra and Nic Newman, Senior Research Associate at the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism, provide insights and share findings from the Reuters and EBU news reports in this webinar. https://www.ebu.ch/events/2024/06/webinar--trusted-journalism-in-the-age-of-genailink
In this episode, Laurent Frat speaks with Amanda Ripley, journalist, best-selling author, and co-founder of Good Conflict, a media training company that helps people reimagine conflict.
The conversation delves into how journalists can de-escalate conflict, what they can learn from conflict mediators and the dangers of binary thinking. Amanda covers how to work with what she calls conflict entrepreneurs, the power of looping, and the role journalists can play in combating societal polarization.
Chapters
01:00 Investigating Conflict: A Journalist's Journey
06:44 Navigating High Conflict and Healthy Conflict
12:09 Introducing Nuance in Reporting
17:05 Engaging with Conflict Entrepreneurs
28:21 Understanding Conflict and the Role of Journalists
40:19 Building Trust and Understanding Through Looping and Humility
43:39 Convening and Building Relationships: The Journalist's Role in Community
49:24 Experimenting with New Ways of Covering Conflict
Tools mentioned: thegoodconflict.com/tools
Her book: High Conflict -- Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out
AmandaRipley.com
News avoidance is a significant concern for the news industry and society as a whole. It can lead to declining interest and engagement with news programs and hinder the public from making informed political decisions. Joining us this week is Benjamin Toff, an assistant professor at the Hubbard School of Journalism and Mass Communication at the University of Minnesota and the co-author of the book, Avoiding the News: Reluctant Audiences for Journalism. In this episode, Benjamin discusses the implications of news avoidance and the underlying causes of this trend, and proposes various strategies that organizations can implement to reach news avoiders.
In this episode, we delve into the journey of Eric Nuzum, a distinguished figure in podcasting. Eric covers the art of crafting compelling content, engaging listeners, and standing out in the dynamic world of podcasts. Don’t miss our insightful conversation about the future of audio media, featuring Eric’s expert advice on meeting changing audience demands, diversifying programming, and driving innovation in public radio.
Eric Nuzum stands out as an influential podcast innovator, with his creations frequently topping charts and garnering hundreds of millions of downloads. As a key player in NPR’s podcasting venture since 2005, Eric’s inventive foresight and strategic insight have elevated the organization to a leading role in podcast distribution. He has been behind some of NPR’s most celebrated podcasts and continued his success at Amazon, leading the development of short-form content and podcasts at Audible. In 2018, Eric applied his vast knowledge to co-found Magnificent Noise, a podcast production and consulting company based in New York City. He is also the author of the acclaimed book “Make Noise: A Creator’s Guide to Podcasting and Great Audio Storytelling.”
https://audioinsurgent.substack.com/
Since last December’s change in government, Poland’s public broadcasting landscape has once again come under scrutiny. State actions aimed at restoring journalistic integrity and independence, which were undermined by the previous government, have become headline news themselves.
In this episode, we’re joined by Wojciech Cegielski, Head of News at Polish Radio. Together, we delve into the current state of Polish public broadcasting, explore the challenges it faces, and discuss the implications for journalism and democracy.
Wojciech Cegielski
In today's episode, we delve into the challenges faced by journalists in managing their mental health amidst the demanding nature of the media industry. We're joined by John Crowley, co-director with Hannah Storm of Headlines Network, an organization that provides resources and training to support mental well-being in the media. It aims to foster conversations on mental health through its podcast series, sharing insights and stories that highlight the importance of this issue in journalism.
John Crowley is a journalist with over 25 years of experience in managing teams across various media positions. He has served as a digital editor for The Wall Street Journal in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa, and has held managerial roles at The Daily Telegraph and Newsweek.
In this episode, he talks about why he co-founded the Headlines Network with Hannah Storm after his own personal experience with burnout and the importance of their organization's work for newsrooms and with journalists across Europe and beyond.
Behind The Headlines with Headlines Network podcast
headlines-network.com
In this episode, we delve into the art and impact of storytelling in journalism. To do this, we are joined by Liam O’Brien, an award-winning documentary maker and the chair of the EBU Audio Storytelling Group. We explore the nuances of telling captivating stories, the responsibility of journalists as storytellers, and how strategic narrative can significantly enhance the connection and impact on an audience.
***Trigger Warning: This podcast episode contains discussions of abuse, including sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised. If you may be triggered by these topics, please consider skipping this episode or listening with a trusted support person.***
Liam at RTE
EBU Audio Storytelling Group
Black Rock Boys
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