TAB Storytellers

In this episode of TAB Storytellers Abi and Jen sit down with Bridget Kudrle, a veteran TAB teacher and president of TAB, Inc., to talk about the whirlwind of starting a school year, what it means to lead with choice and trust in the art room, and how community keeps us grounded. From QTIP (Quit Taking It Personally) to building routines that save your sanity, Bridget shares wisdom for both new and seasoned TAB educators. Resources & Links:Teaching for Artistic BehaviorRegional TAB GroupsMassArt TAB InstituteAnti-Racist Art TeachersHere is a link to a lightly edited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, we are joined by Connie Stewart, Professor Emeritus from the University of Northern Colorado and a passionate advocate for student-centered, contemporary art education. Connie shares her journey with Teaching for Artistic Behavior (TAB), her commitment to individualized instruction, and her work with contemporary artists and big ideas in the classroom. She offers practical advice on questioning strategies, meaningful integration, and staying curious as both an educator and artist. Tune in for an inspiring conversation about honoring student voice, fostering inquiry, and keeping your own artistic spark alive.For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!Here are links to resources or more information that was discussed in the TABcast: Teaching Contemporary Art with Young PeopleAuthors: Julia Marshall, Anne Thulson, Connie StewartCritical Conversations in Art EducationEditors: Lisa Hochtritt, Eli Burke, Toya Northington, Connie StewartThink 360 Arts for LearningWebsite: https://think360arts.orgArtists:Cyrus KabiruKnown for: C-Stunners – wearable sculptures made from discarded materialsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/ckabiru/Tomás SaracenoKnown for: Interdisciplinary installations involving spider webs, sound, air, and architectureWebsite: https://studiotomassaraceno.orgJohn ConstableKnown for: Detailed cloud and landscape studies (historical reference)Public domain works available via Wikimedia CommonsSome Additional Artists:These artists have done work that could be curated for the classroom depending on your age group and communityTitus Kaphar Lenka ClaytonLaurel Roth HopeAlberta AguilarCyrus KabiroAram Han Sifuentes-banners (could be used to express opinions about school, local community)Joo Young ChoiGuerilla Girls; the art of complainingIbrahim MohamaHere is a link to a lightly edited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In the last episode of TAB Storytellers season 3, Abi and Jen decided to end with a candid, heartfelt conversation that celebrates their journey, the evolution of TAB (Teaching for Artistic Behavior), and the challenges and triumphs of teaching art in diverse environments. They reflect on their personal and professional growth, share updates about roles, research, and family life, and explore meaningful themes like student agency, teacher identity, and curriculum design. It's a rich and inspiring check-in that reaffirms the community and philosophy behind the TABcast.For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!Here are links to resources or more information that was discussed in the TABcast: Engaging Learners Through Artmaking (Book, 2nd Edition)Fred Tjardes School of Innovation, Greeley, COHere is a link to a lightly edited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Dyango Chavez-Cutiño, a school programs educator at the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum (ISGM) in Boston, Massachusetts. A TAB teacher by trade, Dyango recently joined the ISGM as a museum educator to help facilitate their school programs. The trio discusses TAB in classroom and museum learning environments, the framework of Visual Thinking Strategies (VTS) and how it is used in art as well as other subjects, and the benefits of integrating VTS in various curricula.For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast: Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum – “Thinking Through Art” Program  https://www.gardnermuseum.org/organization/education/thinking-through-artNew York Times – Visual Thinking Strategies Page A page dedicated to using VTS with contemporary images and real-world events, recommended for high school teachers. https://www.nytimes.com/section/learning/picture-promptHere is a link to a lightly edited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Abi and Jen sit down with Jessica Boritz, an atelierista and art teacher at Grace Episcopal Day School in Kensington, Maryland.  During their conversation, Jessica shares her extensive knowledge of and experience with TAB and Reggio-Emilia, two very compatible approaches to contemporary art education. In addition, the triad also discusses curiosity and creativity in teaching and learning, children’s aesthetics, and the role of beauty in learning.For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast: Everywhere Atelier Study Group - Roberta Pucci: https://www.everywhereatelier.net – Study groups and online resources about Reggio Emilia–inspired practices, including material dialogues and the Atelierista role.Reggio Children - Official Reggio Emilia Organization: https://www.reggiochildren.it/en – Offers official resources, training, and background on the Reggio Emilia approach.Project Zero - Harvard Graduate School of Education: https://pz.harvard.edu – Research related to creativity, education, and thinking strategies, often linked to Reggio Emilia practices. Relevant books include Making Learning Visible and Making Thinking Visible.Edward Clapp - Participatory Creativity: https://pz.harvard.edu/projects/agency-by-design – Focuses on creativity as an emergent, collective process rather than an individual trait.Rick Rubin - The Creative Act: A Way of Being: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Creative-Act/Rick-Rubin/9780593652886 – A book exploring creativity and process.Elizabeth Gilbert - Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear: https://www.elizabethgilbert.com/books/big-magic/ – A book referenced regarding inspiration and the creative process.Richard Serra - Verb List: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/152793 – Mentioned in relation to material exploration in art and Reggio Emilia.Goldy Muhammad - Culturally & Historically Responsive Education: https://www.goldymuhammad.com/ – Referenced regarding beauty and humanity in curriculum design.Elaine Scarry - On Beauty and Being Just: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691070053/on-beauty-and-being-just – A book discussing aesthetics, justice, and the role of beauty in learning.National Art Education Foundation (NAEF) Grants: https://www.arteducators.org/opportunities/naef – Jessica mentioned she traveled to Reggio Emilia through an NAEF grant. More details on professional development grants can be found here.Here is a link to the lightly transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org 

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Abi and Jen sit down with Kristin Anson, an art teacher at an international school in Sri Lanka, where she teaches preschool through fifth grade within a PYP (Primary Years Programme) framework. During their conversation, Kristin shares what it’s like to bring TAB pedagogy into an international context and how her inquiry-based curriculum supports student choice and autonomy. In addition, the trio discusses the realities of unlearning traditional teacher-led approaches, collaborating with classroom teachers, building supportive school communities, and how Kristin’s social media presence, “PrincessArtyPants,” offers inspiration for educators seeking to embrace choice-based art education.For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:  Princess Arty Pants Blog - Kristin Anson:  https://blog.princessartypants.com/  – A blog chronicling Kristin Anson’s journey with PYP and TAB practices, offering reflections, ideas, and insights for art educators. Princess Arty Pants Instagram - Kristin Anson:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/princess_artypants ⁠ – Follow for regular content on TAB, PYP, and art education strategies. PYP TAB Facebook Group: A specialized community for educators incorporating Primary Years Programme (PYP) principles into TAB-based teaching. Earcos Conference - Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia (March 2024): A TAB and PYP educator meet-up will be held during this conference. For more details, reach out to Kristin Anson.Here is a link to a lightly edited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org 

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi sit down with renowned artist and author Olivia Gude. Olivia is a Professor Emerita of the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and the University of Illinois at Chicago, having developed numerous frameworks and programs at these institutions. Among the topics the triad discusses are the evolution of process-based art education, dialogical pedagogy, Olivia's work with Spiral Workshops, and the role of the educator in a TAB program.For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:  Olivia Gude’s Articles and Concepts “New School Art Styles” (2013): Published in Art Education journal (awarded the Manuel Barkan Award). “Postmodern Principles” (2004): Art Education journal article describing contemporary alternatives to the classic Elements & Principles. “Principles of Possibility” (2007): Art Education journal article proposing themes and frameworks for deeper meaning-making in art curricula. Spiral Workshop: A teaching/research project Gude led at the University of Illinois–Chicago, featuring thematically driven, open-ended artmaking experiences. Examples and images can be found in Olivia Gude’s NAEA e-Portfolio (includes slides/videos of workshops) https://naea.digication.com/Spiral/Spiral_Workshop_Theme_Groups/ Forthcoming & Recent Publications Book: Promoting Civic Engagement Through Art Education (edited by Doug Blandy and Flavia Bastos). Gude’s chapter: “Limit Acts and Constructed Situations: Paulo Freire and the Situationist International.” (Fall 2024) Dialogical Pedagogy & Assessment Skeptical Assessment Society: Gude’s collaborative workshop series with educators such as Katherine Douglas, challenging rigid scoring rubrics and emphasizing authentic learning/meaning-making. Paulo Freire’s “Pedagogy of the Oppressed”: Foundational text for dialogical, student-centered teaching approaches that inform Gude’s community-based and thematic curriculum work. National Core Arts Standards (2014) Gude served on the writing team for these standards, which encourage self-directed play with materials, authentic artmaking processes, and reflection over rote skills. Find them at: National Core Arts Standards – Visual ArtsHere is a link to the edited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are potentially errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, join Abi and Jen as they interview high school art teacher and WAEA co-president Becky Broyles as she describes how she adapted the TAB (Teaching for Artistic Behavior) approach in an alternative school setting, structuring her classroom as a “design studio” divided into departments (fashion, photography, digital art, and more). Becky emphasizes student choice, self-paced learning, and peer-to-peer feedback, sharing how technology tools like Padlet, Google Classroom, and Canva support her learners. Becky also highlights the importance of building supportive educator communities—both online and in person—to sustain and grow TAB practices. For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:  Washington Art Education Association (WAEA): waea.net Offers free virtual workshops every third Saturday. Padlet: padlet.com Used for student process photos, final-art critiques, and peer feedback. Canva: canva.com Used to create logos, business cards, and social media ads for student “design studios.” Becky’s Website: broylesdesigngroup.org (class site; still in development) Storyteller's Email: storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org For questions, transcript edits, or follow-up with the Abi and/or Jen. Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org 

In this installment of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi sit down with Jorge Lucero, Professor of Art Education and the Associate Dean of Research at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign. Jorge shares the journey that brought him (in an unexpected way) to teaching and discusses his work at the university with preservice art teachers. Among the topics discussed are conceptual art, the intersection of creative practice and teaching, and the significance of permissions for students (and ourselves!). For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:  https://www.jorgelucero.com/ Permissions - https://www.jorgelucero.com/cat-permissions Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this installment of TAB Storytellers, Abi and Jen sit down with Julie Toole, K-8 art teacher at Baker Demonstration School and faculty member of the renowned TAB Institute at MassArt. Julie, whose career spans a remarkable 34 years, shares her journey with us from special education to discipline-based art education to discovering TAB at an NAEA conference and beyond. Among the topics discussed are the power of learning in community, the critical DEIJB (diversity, equity, inclusion, justice, and belonging) work we do in teaching and learning, and the small but powerful steps we can take to “move the needle” in our classrooms. For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:  SEED - https://www.nationalseedproject.org/ Rudine Sims Bishop - https://cynthialeitichsmith.com/2018/04/video-rudine-sims-bishop-on-mirrors/ Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Abi and Jen meet middle school art teacher and co-founder of the group Anti-Racist Art Teachers, Abby Birnahu. Throughout their time together, Abby shares her experience and compelling perspective as an Ethiopian and African-American woman, mother, and teacher living in our contemporary landscape. Among the topics discussed are anti-racism in education, representation and why it is essential in the classroom, and the importance of collaboration and community. For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:  Anti-Racist Art Teachers - https://www.antiracistartteachers.org/ Amplifier - https://amplifier.org/ Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org 

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi sit down with Roni Rohr and Jessi Ruby, both PreK-8 visual art educators in New Mexico (Roni) and Colorado (Jessi). Roni and Jessi share what brought them to teaching, the development of their working partnership, and how their current pedagogical venture, [re]Design(ing) Art Education, came about. Among the topics discussed are design-thinking and STEAM, the importance of community and kindness, and why (when considering art education pedagogy) it is critical NOT to reinvent the wheel, but redesign it. For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! Here are resources to more information discussed in the TABcast:  [re]Design(ing) Art Education - https://www.redesigningarted.com/ Smoke and Mirrors (Nan Hathaway) - Smoke and Mirrors Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org 

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Dr. Tina Atkinson, the self appointed Research Translator, among many other titles including Art Teacher and NAEA Elementary Research Commissioner. Among the topics discussed are research in the classroom, suggestions for starting to do research in your own classroom, and how research can be used to advocate and validate what you are doing in your teaching practices.  For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! For more information about the NAEA Research Commission click here, to contact Tina with questions you can email her here. Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Join Jen and Abi as they chat with the co-founders of the Tet[R]ad Project, David Modler and Sam Peck for our Season 3 opener! David Modler is a Professor of Art, Coordinator of Art Education, and Department Chair at Shepherd University in Shepherdstown, WV. Sam Peck is an art educator at Morton Middle School in Fall River, MA. In this TABcast, David and Sam share the origins of their visual journaling practices, their amazing tet[R]ad Project, how to transition from a product-based curriculum to one focused on process, and how they’ve integrated it across grade levels.  For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! For more information about all things related to David and Sam check out their website drawandplayhere.com or find them on Instagram @drawandplayhere.   Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2eMC0bYY4neiHS14HfnXkvPwRyatUPN-ELjYYb_pY8/edit?usp=sharing We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Abigail Harkey, the Visual Arts, Instruction and Curriculum Specialist for Denver Public Schools. Abigail flipped the tables in this episode and asked Jen and Abi questions. We discussed learning objectives, rigor and assessment, and teacher evaluations among other things.  For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gNm3I1XU2wA7VVevjjdwMJJ2ary4MZ8ENz9HPY6zyIk/edit?usp=sharing  We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Clyde Gaw and Clark Fralick, TAB art educators. Among the topics discussed are how Clyde and Clark found TAB, technology, advocacy, authentic making, and the Secret Art of Boys as well as several other topics. For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! For more information about The Secret Art of Boys: https://clydegaw.blogspot.com/2010/07/blog-post.html   Here is a link to the unedited transcript (alright almost unedited transcript - Abi is playing with Chat GPT 4.0 to see if she can make this better) of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q8yk2X-W38cntYIA-y3VPaVPTA9K21KgCoznpFGdrGQ/edit?usp=sharing  We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Melissa Purtee, HS TAB teacher and Co-Director of the TAB Summer Institute. Among the topics discussed are transitioning from elementary to high school, writing about TAB, the TAB Summer Institute (coming July 22-27, 2024), and some advice for thinking about moving more into choice For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! For more information about:  TAB Summer Institute: https://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/professional-development/ Melissa’s Books: The Open Art Room - https://www.davisart.com/choice-based-art-education/ and Making Artists: https://www.davisart.com/student-led-classroom/  Melissa’s Substacks: https://substack.com/@thoughtsonarting Melissa’s Blog from 2013-2019:  http://www.thoughtsonarting.com/  Ian Sand's Apex High School Blog: https://apexhsart.blogspot.com/  Writing for SchoolArts Magazine: https://www.davisart.com/schoolarts/write-for-schoolarts/  Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LD-mTkwAm2aDh5ILMLnvChyWl13Lbw6NVDqQ0hTRp58/edit?usp=sharing  We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by the NAEA Choice Art Interest Group Co-Presidents Mandy DeWitt, Julie Jacobusse, Michelle Puhl-Price, and Damien “Coach” Phillips. Among the topics discussed are some of the nuances between Choice and TAB, finding the balance on the choice continuum that works for you, and how to get involved with the Choice Art Interest Group.  For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! For more information about the Choice Art Interest Group or to join as a member you can find out more at these great links: https://sites.google.com/view/choicearteducators/home  https://www.arteducators.org/community/articles/257-choice-art-educators-cae  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1699665476977044/  Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mbWsR5gbDvrt1tc6WB6yJwKjdAx3xuDL_8vXGguXIrI/edit?usp=sharing  We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org 

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Rebecca Stone-Danahy, AP Art and Design Director and Assessment Specialist with the College Board. Among the topics discussed are Rebecca’s TAB journey, the parallels between TAB and AP Art and Design, shifting pedagogies, and the importance of building relationships with students, among other things.  For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! For more information about the AP Art and Design Program or the amazing AP Art and Design Exhibit check out these links! Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ZgPnY2_60zhHyf3FrJ9Ig_fXBixjTeOxkQCa7JdT3Q/edit?usp=sharing  We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org 

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Seymour Simmon, III, Professor of Fine Arts Emeritus, Winthrop College. Among the topics discussed include history of art education and drawing, Arts PROPEL, and much more.   For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB! For more information about Seymour Simmon III, check out his website - https://www.seymoursimmons.com/  Also the article that was mentioned in the show can be found here: The Art of Disturbation Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19WwrS2KLiQZsvnrlnOOHU-G2cR3gc0DWhiiB4R7MxRI/edit?usp=sharing  We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org