Run The Riot Podcast

On this episode of the Run the Riot Podcast, ultrarunner and coach David Theriot sits down with Chris Avery, an ultrarunner on a mission that sounds impossible at first glance: running an ultra marathon every day for an entire year while circumnavigating the perimeter of the United States. What makes Chris’s story so compelling isn’t just the miles — it’s how it all started. No running background. No love for the sport. Just a willingness to say yes to a single mile a day. That simple act of consistency sparked a transformation that now has Chris running 17+ miles daily, building toward 30+ miles a day for 365 consecutive days. This conversation dives deep into: How a no-training marathon changed Chris’s life Why consistency beats motivation every time Running as a tool for spiritual growth and identity Balancing ultra training, faith, family, and business Why starting small is the key to long-term success How suffering strips away ego and reveals purpose For ultrarunners, trail runners, and anyone chasing growth — physically, mentally, or spiritually — this episode is a reminder that you don’t need a perfect plan. You just need to take the next step. Whether you’re an experienced ultrarunner, a new runner wondering where to start, or someone looking for clarity in life, this episode will challenge and encourage you to keep moving forward. Chris Avery is an ultrarunner, men’s coach, husband, and father of two. After years of avoiding running, he committed to running one mile a day, slowly increasing distance every 90 days. Four years later, he’s running over 120 miles per week and preparing to run the perimeter of the United States — approximately 30 miles per day for a full calendar year. Chris uses running as a vehicle to help men pursue purpose, discipline, faith, and resilience through physical challenge and accountability. Website: https://www.chrisrunsamerica.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chris.avery.9083/ Instagram (Coaching): https://www.instagram.com/chrisaverycoaching/ Instagram (Run Across America): https://www.instagram.com/chrisrunsamerica If this conversation stirred something in you and you’re ready to take your running — or your life — to the next level, check out Run the Riot Coaching. Whether you’re training for your first ultra, chasing a PR, or just trying to build consistency, personalized coaching can make all the difference. 👉 Learn more at: http://www.theriot.run/coaching About Chris AveryFollow Chris AveryCoaching with Run the Riot

In this episode of the Run the Riot Podcast, we discuss the concept of the 'pain cave' in ultra running, inspired by a conversation with Philip Klinkner. We emphasize the importance of mental preparation and creating a supportive environment before facing challenging races. We share insights on how to mentally prepare for tough moments, using mantras, motivational quotes, and past successes to build resilience. We encourage listeners to prepare their 'pain cave' in advance, highlighting the significance of mental training alongside physical training.

In this episode, we catch up with ultrarunner Phillip Klinkner, a blue-collar beast who’s chasing big goals, grinding out tough training blocks, and trusting the process as he heads into a huge year of ultra racing. From battling brutal foot issues at Hennepin 100, to a breakout 17:10 performance at the Dreadmill 100, to planning an all-out push for 200 miles at Last Dot Standing — Phil is on a mission. You’ll hear us talk training strategies, treadmill mental battles, aid station efficiency, and the power of community and support. Phil shares how this sport has not only transformed his life but also brought strength to his relationships, mindset, and mission. We break down: Lessons learned the hard way at Hennepin 100 Why Badger Trail races aren’t created equal How Phil built a pain cave in his house to prep for the Dreadmill 100 The mental and physical shift that unlocked a new level of performance What it takes to stay strong during racing AND hunting season His plan to crush the Badger Slam: Sugar Badger 50, Badger 100, and Last Dot Standing How to build toward 200 miles — and why it’s not about the title, but the team If you’re training for an ultra or looking for inspiration to get through the grind, this conversation will fire you up. Phil is proof that consistency, a little stubbornness, and the right support system can take you places you never thought you’d go. Whether you're an ultrarunner, an aspiring ultrarunning coach, or just love stories of resilience, this one’s for you. More here: http://www.theriot.run/philk2

The Skill Every Ultrarunner Needs in the New Year The start of a new year brings motivation, fresh goals, and big plans—but for ultrarunners, that energy can be a double-edged sword. In this episode of the Run the Riot Podcast, we talk about one of the most important (and overlooked) skills in ultrarunning: training patience. This isn’t about doing less—it’s about doing the right things at the right time so you can stay healthy, consistent, and excited about training all year long. Drawing from years of coaching ultrarunners and recent conversations on the podcast, including insights from athletes who have stayed competitive for decades, this episode focuses on how patience protects long-term progress. January isn’t the race. It’s the foundation. If you’ve ever felt the urge to ramp up too fast, chase fitness early, or “win January,” this episode will help reframe how you approach the new year. What you’ll hear in this episode: Why January motivation often leads to mid-season burnout or injury How training patience becomes a competitive advantage in ultrarunning The difference between being disciplined and being reckless with volume Why connective tissue, recovery, and consistency matter more than big weeks How experienced ultrarunners think long-term instead of chasing short-term wins A better way to set New Year goals that actually last Whether you’re training for your first ultra or planning another season of ultra racing, this conversation will help you start the year with intention—and stay in the game. Want help building a patient, sustainable training plan? If you’re looking for guidance from an experienced ultrarunning coach, learn more about Run the Riot coaching here:http://www.theriot.run/coaching

Life doesn’t always give us a choice in what happens — but it does give us a choice in how we respond. In this Midweek Motivation, we talk about what it really means to choose joy, even when life feels heavy. Not pretending things are easy. Not ignoring pain. But choosing gratitude, perspective, and faith in the middle of hard circumstances. This message is a reminder that joy isn’t a feeling reserved for perfect seasons. It’s a decision we can make — one step at a time. As we head into Christmas, this episode also challenges us to slow down, tune out the noise, and focus on what truly matters most. Why joy is a choice, not a mood How gratitude reshapes your mindset What endurance running teaches us about perspective Choosing joy in the middle of uncertainty A Christmas reminder about hope and what really matters Whether you’re out on a run, driving, or just needing a reset, this episode is here to encourage you to keep showing up — with gratitude and joy. Merry Christmas, my friends.

Jeff “Bronco Billy” Browning returns to the Run the Riot podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on staying competitive in ultrarunning for decades, not just seasons. From rebuilding after tendonitis to preparing for Cocodona 250 and another run at Western States, Jeff shares practical insight every ultrarunner and ultrarunning coach can learn from. This episode covers what it really takes to manage big ultra racing goals, recover from hard efforts like the Colorado Trail, and keep showing up healthy—physically and mentally. In this episode, we talk about: Training for Cocodona 250 and managing a Western States double What Jeff learned from the Colorado Trail and why tendon and connective tissue damage often shows up months later Taking a rare full month off running and rebuilding intelligently Strength training for ultrarunners: heavy lifting, isometrics, mobility, and durability Ankle taping for technical trail racing and why Jeff tapes for every race Ultra shoe design: ideal drop, rocker, stack height, and stability for long distances Nutrition, recovery, and why Jeff prioritizes protein for longevity Coaching, family life, and balancing training with real-world responsibilities Mental resilience when races don’t go as planned and how to move forward as a competitor Show Notes: https://www.theriot.run/jeff-browning2 Whether you’re training for your first ultra, chasing a PR, or focused on staying healthy long-term, this episode is packed with real experience from one of the most durable ultrarunners in the sport.

This week on the Run the Riot Podcast, we’re hanging out with ultrarunner Mason Phillips — and what a story this guy brings to the trail! From growing up in California to working remote trail systems in Alaska, Mason’s path to ultrarunning is as rugged and adventurous as the mountains he trains in. At just 26, he’s already crushed a 100-miler at Rio Del Lago and took on the monster that is the Moab 240 — and did it with grit, creativity, and just a little bit of chaos (spoiler: he carried dog food as training weight and wore trash bags for warmth during a bike race). We talk about: How Mason transitioned from college rugby to thru-hiking and long ultras The trail magic that led to meeting fellow ultrarunner Nick Fowler on the PCT Why he chose the Moab 240 as his first 200+ mile race What it was like running solo for nearly 100 miles without a crew His fueling, sleep strategy, and how he managed Alaska’s snow while training for a desert race Lessons learned, including why efficiency beats perfection every time And yes — he beat David Goggins. Mason brings a refreshing, raw perspective to the world of ultra racing — not everything has to be perfectly planned to achieve something incredible. If you’ve ever thought about going farther, pushing harder, or embracing the unknown in your running journey, this episode is for you. Video and show notes: http://www.theriot.run/masonp

This week, we’re talking about something most of us don’t slow down long enough to consider — identity. Not the surface-level kind. The deep, heart-level “who am I, really?” kind. A moment at a men’s retreat opened my eyes to how quickly we define ourselves (and others) by what we do. Someone called me “the ultra guy,” and while that’s part of my story, it’s not who I am. That pushed me into some honest reflection. In this episode, we get into: • Why performance-based identity is such a trap • How easy it is for good things — like running — to become labels • The danger of rooting your identity in something you can lose • What Scripture says about who we belong to • How running reveals character without defining identity • Why your unshakable identity anchors you through injury, age, success, or failure • How running becomes worship when it’s a gift, not your name If you’ve ever let a title, a role, or an achievement tell you who you are, this one’s for you. At the end of the episode, I share a song I wrote that captures this whole message — stick around for it. Thanks for listening, friends. Take a minute today to ask the hard question:What am I letting define me? Link to "Hidden in You" song: https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/davidtheriot/hidden-in-you-special-version

Chad Bruce is back on the podcast, and this time he’s fresh off the Mammoth 200 — 200+ miles through the high country of the Eastern Sierras. From long stretches of soul-sucking gravel to alpine climbs and a thunderstorm finish that tested every ounce of grit, Chad takes us inside what it really takes to finish a race like this at age 52. We talk about how his training has shifted with age, what gear and nutrition worked (and what didn’t), how he balances racing with life, and the mental strategies that carry him through the lows. Whether you’re looking to run your first ultra or eyeing a 200-miler yourself, there’s something here for everyone. Mentioned in this episode: Mammoth 200, Moab 240, Cocodona 250, Bigfoot 200 Recovery and training tips for ultrarunners over 50 The role of mindset, mid-race nutrition, and sleep in 200s Follow Chad: Instagram: @chadbruce78 Learn more about coaching: www.theriot.run/coaching Episode Page: www.theriot.run/chadbruce2 Hashtags: #runtheriot #ultrarunningcoach #mammoth200 #ultrarunner #ultrarunning #ultraracing #trailrunner

Welcome back, friends! After a busy season, it’s time for a reset. Today isn’t about perfection — it’s about taking the next step. What we talk about: When life gets full and priorities shift Why stopping for a season doesn’t mean failure Recap: a powerful men’s retreat and lessons on identity Family updates (Jennifer’s knee surgery + travel softball chaos) Why the Heartland 100 got pushed — and why that’s OK Why comebacks don’t need to be dramatic The power of a single small step Today’s challenge: Choose one small action that moves you closer to the life, health, or goal you want. Just one. You don’t need: A new week A new month A perfect plan You just need to start. Quotes from the episode: “A pause isn’t the end.” “The finish line isn’t for people who never struggle — it’s for those who refuse to quit.” “Momentum changes everything.” I’m back behind the mic. Interviews are coming. New episodes are coming. Let’s reset together — and move the needle.

In this episode of Run the Riot, we reconnect with Peter Defty, a pioneering force behind the fat-adapted movement in endurance sports. Peter is the man behind Vespa and OFM (Optimized Fat Metabolism), and today, he shares powerful insights into how ultrarunners can unlock performance, recover faster, and sustain longevity by training their bodies to burn fat as a primary fuel source. We dive into: Peter’s first 100-miler at the hottest Western States ever recorded 🌡️ How Vespa was inspired by a Japanese study of a wasp species The science behind OFM and how it improves fat utilization Why many athletes suffer from GI issues—and how OFM can solve them Why it’s not about keto or carbs—it’s about balance and metabolic capacity Practical advice for those looking to transition to fat-adapted running The real cost of "science-backed" sports nutrition and how to cut out 75+ lbs of sugar annually How Vespa and OFM have helped elite athletes like Jeff Browning, Peter Mortimer, and Andrea Moore thrive in the sport for years Whether you’re an ultrarunning veteran or just starting to explore performance nutrition, this episode is packed with science, stories, and real-world results. Show notes: http://www.theriot.run/peterd

In this episode of Run the Riot, ultrarunner Andrea Moore shares how a post-Boston road runner became a desert-loving, mountain-climbing 200-miler—finding joy, grit, and community along the way. We talk about the fire-shortened Oregon 200 experience, redemption arcs at Moab 240 and Tahoe 200, and what it really takes—physically, logistically, mentally—to string together Cocodona 250, Monster 300, and Summit 200. Andrea opens up about mindset over mileage, the power of gratitude, and how OFM/Vespa fueling helps her bounce back fast between huge efforts. What you’ll learn Mindset that lasts past mile 200: Why belief, gratitude, and adaptability keep you moving when the plan falls apart. Race-as-training strategy: How Andrea used back-to-back big efforts to prepare for Cocodona 250—and beyond. Fueling the long game (OFM + Vespa): What goes in during 200–300 mile races, why fat adaptation works for her, and how she manages electrolytes and calories. Logistics that don’t crumble: Pace charts vs. reality, packing for mountain weather swings, and building a flexible crew plan. Community matters: “Voluntary trauma bonding,” trading snacks at aid stations, and why ultra friends feel like family. Course character: How Monster 300’s southern AZ desert differs from the Cocodona storyline, what makes Summit 200 feel like a mountain family picnic, and how Tahoe 200 and Moab 240 teach humility. Episode highlights Leaving a 28-year banking career, moving to Flagstaff, and delivering mail—why service beats sales. From hating running to loving trails: the slippery slope that started at Rocky Raccoon 100K. The “burn the boats” approach to 200s—no plan B, only problem solving. Gear that works at 200+: belts vs. packs, why a bigger-volume vest matters when mandatory gear stacks up. Future goals: a 200-heavy calendar now, then technical vert focus (think Ouray/Speedgoat) on the way to Tour des Géants ambitions. More at http://www.theriot.run/andream

Ever feel stuck? Like you’ve drifted too far off course and don’t know how to get back? In this Midweek Motivation, we talk about the power of one sentence — and how it can be the spark that changes everything. Inspired by Run the Riot athlete Phil Klinkner, this short episode unpacks the moment he stood still in the woods, took a deep breath, and said out loud:“Something has to change.” Whether you’re battling self-doubt, stuck in a rut, or just coasting through your week, this episode reminds you that you don’t need the full plan — you just need a starting point. That starting point might be a sentence. Listen to Phil’s full story here: www.theriot.run/philk Ready to make your own shift? Learn more about coaching: www.theriot.run/coaching

In this episode of Run the Riot, we sit down with Christopher Ange from Sulphur, Louisiana. Chris shares his journey from growing up in Lake Charles surrounded by Cajun and Sicilian culture to becoming a passionate ultrarunner and race director. We talk about: His early days running the Crescent City Classic with his dad. Pacing a friend at his first 50K and discovering the trail running community. Founding the No Man’s Land Trail Run after hurricanes nearly destroyed local trails. The unique challenges and beauty of running in South Louisiana — humidity, banana spiders, gators, and all! Balancing family, work as a chemical engineer, and training for ultras. His experiences at Boston and Houston Marathons, and plans for the 100-mile distance at Lugaroo. More info: http://www.theriot.run/chrisr

In this episode of Run the Riot, we dive deep into the powerful story of Phil Klinkner, an everyday guy with an extraordinary mindset. From growing up with the nickname "Fatty" to transforming into a determined ultrarunner who finished the Badger 100, Phil’s journey is raw, real, and undeniably inspiring. Phil opens up about: His early days growing up in a trailer park in Wisconsin Discovering confidence through martial arts as a kid The struggles of post-COVID life, drinking, and feeling stuck How a wake-up moment during deer season sparked his health transformation Dropping 65 pounds and changing his life — one disciplined day at a time Walking 14 miles a day as a mail carrier and training for his first ultra Tackling his first Badger 100 — and finishing 14th overall! The emotional toll and healing process of losing his father How ultrarunning helped him reconnect with his purpose and inspire his family We also talk about what it’s like to coach someone like Phil, who shows up with discipline, grit, and a positive mindset every single week. His wife Malia and sister were part of his crew, and their support played a big role in making this a team victory. If you’re feeling stuck in your training, struggling with motivation, or wondering whether it’s too late to change your life — this episode is for you. Show Link: http://www.theriot.run/philk Interested in improving your ultrarunning skills? Check out the Run the Riot coaching page for structured guidance and support on your running journey: http://www.theriot.run/coaching #runtheriot #ultrarunning #ultrarunner #ultrarunningcoach #badger100 #ultraracing #trailrunning #trailrunner

Feeling stuck in your training? Wondering if all those miles and early mornings are actually getting you anywhere? In this episode of Midweek Motivation, I’ll remind you that you’re further than you think — in running and in life. We’ll talk about: Why progress often feels invisible until you look back How to recognize the ground you’ve already covered The “messy middle” and why it’s where strength is built A simple exercise to see just how far you’ve really come Whether you’re chasing an ultramarathon finish line, a personal PR, or just trying to stay consistent, this episode will give you the perspective and encouragement you need to keep going. Listen in and remember: You’re not where you started — and you’re not finished yet. Magic Mind!

This week on the Run the Riot Podcast, we’re joined by ultrarunner and ultrarunning coach Jackson Wolf, fresh off the legendary Badwater 135. We catch up with Jackson as he bounces between major ultras, pacing gigs, and planning his next adventures, including new races with Rougarou Running. Jackson shares: • A raw recap of his 2024 Badwater 135 experience • Thoughts on struggling with sleep deprivation at Badwater, despite success at races like Cocodona 250 and Oregon 200 • His unique approach to training: racing as training vs traditional long runs • Valuable lessons in mental toughness, race problem-solving, and how stoic philosophy transformed his racing mindset • Transitioning from triathlete to elite ultrarunner • Planning new ultra events in Mississippi and Louisiana, including a Last Person Standing race • Balancing elite-level running with life as a coach, traveler, and even professional gambler This episode is packed with insights on mindset, resilience, race strategy, and learning to thrive in the chaos of ultra racing. Whether you’re an experienced ultrarunner or just breaking into long distances, Jackson’s perspective will resonate. Connect with Jackson Wolf & Rougarou Running • Website: https://rougarourunning.com/ (Coming soon) • Instagram: @jackson_wo1f • Instagram: @rougarourunning More show notes: http://www.theriot.run/jacksonw

Ever had a race—or a life plan—go sideways? You laid out the spreadsheets, packed the drop bags, prepped the fuel… and then something unexpected knocked it all off course? In today’s Midweek Motivation, we’re talking about the power of planning—and the wisdom of pivoting. Coach David Theriot dives into: • Why a solid plan shows discipline and intention • Real-world ultrarunning examples of when a plan breaks down • What we can learn from Cam Ridley’s support of Angela Smith at the Prairie Spirit 100 • How to adjust in the moment without panicking • When pivoting is strength—not weakness • Life lessons from training, racing, and even the Midnight Madness 100 he’s jumping into Whether you’re running your first 50K or trying to hold your life together through unexpected turns, this one’s for you. Remember: Plans are powerful—but clinging to them too tightly can run you into the ground. The best runners—and the strongest people—know when it’s time to adapt Links & Resources • Listen to the full episode with Cam Ridley: www.theriot.run/camr • Need a coach for your next big race? Let’s talk — www.theriot.run/coaching

In this episode of Run the Riot, we hang out with Cam Riddle, a passionate strength coach who's making a difference in the ultrarunning world—without running ultras himself! Cam brings years of experience from the private and collegiate strength and conditioning world and shares how he’s now applying his knowledge to help ultrarunners build stronger, more resilient bodies. We first met Cam while he was crewing ultrarunner Angela Smith at the Prairie Spirit 100. From the jump, his excitement for the sport and love for people was evident. Cam talks about how he got involved in ultrarunning through an athlete he worked with previously and how that opened the door to coaching Angela Smith for her amazing 100-mile finish at the Prairie Spirit 100 in Kansas. Cam breaks down: Why ultrarunners need more than just miles—hello, glutes and core! His approach to balancing runcoaching with strength programming How individualized training can make or break race day performance What it’s like being on the sidelines of an ultra and watching grit in real time Lessons from crewing, cramping, and crawling (sometimes literally) Whether you're a new ultrarunner or a seasoned ultrarunning coach, you'll appreciate Cam's insight, humor, and heart for helping others succeed. This episode is all about community, compassion, and crushing goals. Be sure to check out Cam's social media: Cam on Instagram If you're looking to improve your own ultrarunning strength, visit our coaching page at Run the Riot Coaching. More From this Episode: http://www.theriot.run/camr

You wouldn’t walk into a job interview without practicing your answers… so why would you show up to race day without testing your gear, your fuel, and your mindset? In this Midweek Motivation episode, David breaks down why your long run isn’t “just another Saturday” — it’s your dress rehearsal for the big day. You’ll hear how to use those miles to prepare wisely and avoid avoidable mistakes. From shoes to stomach issues, from pacing to pre-run routines — this one’s all about being intentional so you can be confident when it counts. What You’ll Learn: Why every long run is a chance to simulate race day The key things you must test before race day (gear, fuel, timing, mindset) How to use your long runs to build pacing strategy and mental toughness A bonus tip that can help reduce pre-race anxiety One-Liner Takeaway: Train like it’s race day — so race day feels like just another well-prepared run.