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Extra Serving: A restaurant industry podcast
Extra Serving: A restaurant industry podcast
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Extra Serving is a series of weekly podcasts hosted by the editorial team at Nation’s Restaurant News, the leading source for information and insights on the American restaurant industry. Covering the latest and most relevant topics in foodservice — including emerging chains, food trends, technology, and more — Extra Serving features a recap of the week’s biggest headlines, plus guests ranging from restaurant owners and operators to CEOs, founders, chefs, and other experts.
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On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including expert predictions for 2026, Chipotle’s negative year, and the ongoing value wars. First up is 2026 predictions, specifically as it relates to the economy; Sam and Alicia both traveled to Florida last week for separate conferences where they heard more about 2026 expectations. The short version? It doesn’t look great — but maybe it won’t get worse? They break down the economic factors impacting restaurants and how operators can protect their businesses from yet another down year. Next up are Alicia’s insights from the ICR event in Orlando, where she spoke with two brands who were looking to buck the trend in 2026: Jersey Mike’s and TGI Friday’s. She shares exclusive thoughts from her conversations and how exactly these two brands — which have been on different trajectories the past few years — plan to grow. Then Sam and Alicia discuss Chipotle, which announced that it expected 2025 to be its first-ever negative sales year on record. Could CEO Scott Boatwright be on the hot seat? The sudden departure of chief brand officer Chris Brandt suggests the company is ready to shake things up to get back to growth. Sam and Alicia explore what this could mean for Chipotle. Finally, in the extra serving portion of the episode, senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn joins to discuss recent value offerings from around the restaurant industry, including major evolution at Taco Bell and Wendy’s. He then shares a conversation he recently had with Chickie’s & Pete’s head chef Brendan Mullan. For more on these stories: Navigating lingering uncertainty: Insights from the ICR ConferenceChipotle faces first same-store sales decline in over 20 yearsTaco Bell launches $3 Luxe Value Menu
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including the surge in marketing and value deals from restaurant chains, Chick-fil-A’s biggest marketing campaign ever, and red flags from smaller, regional chains across the U.S. First up is marketing news from across the restaurant industry, as 2026 has already seen high-profile chains like Chipotle push new marketing programs designed to drum up business. These programs include a lot of value deals, and Sam and Alicia discuss the dangers of restaurants pushing too hard into discounting and marketing partnerships, and how it can distract companies from excelling at their core offering. Next up is Chick-fil-A, which is celebrating the 80th anniversary of its original restaurant Dwarf House by rolling out its biggest marketing campaign ever. Alicia, who recently toured Chick-fil-A headquarters in Atlanta, walks through the scope of the campaign and she and Sam talk about how these efforts further solidify Chick-fil-A as a leader in the space. Finally, managing editor Leigh Anne Zinsmeister joins for the “extra serving” portion of the episode to talk about regional restaurant chains and recent closures — from Salad & Go and Houlihan’s, among others — as well as bankruptcies from Compass Coffee and Taste of Belgium.For more on these stories: Chipotle continues its marketing barrage, this time with EA SportsChick-fil-A is doubling down on its family-focused experiencesSalad and Go to exit Texas and Oklahoma as it closes 32 restaurants
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including the rise in protein menus across the restaurant industry and the news that Sprinkles Cupcakes had shuttered. They also offer their five resolutions for the restaurant industry in 2026. First up is protein, which is surging on menus as more consumers embrace high-protein diets. From Chipotle to CAVA and Shake Shack to Dunkin’, major chains are rolling out new menu items and in some cases entire menus dedicated to protein. Sam and Alicia discuss the trend and what it says about the broader health movement going on in the U.S. Speaking of which, one of the OGs of the 2000s cupcake craze appears to have shuttered its doors; Sam and Alicia unpack the news that Sprinkles Cupcakes was no more. Could this be a sign that hyper-focused concepts serving a limited menu could be a thing of the past? Or is it a broader indictment of the treat industry? Finally, Sam and Alicia offer their five resolutions for the restaurant industry in 2026, from improving four-wall economics to enhancing the hospitality experience. For more on these stories: Chipotle launches a High Protein MenuSprinkles has closed all its locationsPanera unveils strategic plan to ‘return to its apex’
Katie Laudick perfectly encapsulates Cameron Mitchell's Restaurants' growth-from-within philosophy. She worked her way up from server and HR intern to become the company's chief people officer. She now helps to hire, train, and maintain the company's culture throughout the restaurant group's 6,000 employees and over 70 restaurants, which include Ocean Prime, Del Mar, and Hudson 29. Katie tells guest host Gloria Dawson that a big part of that growth mindset actually stems from Cameron Mitchell's signature 'Yes is the Answer! What is the Question?' philosophy that extends not just to guests but to employees, too.
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Cracker Barrel’s post-logo-change sales slump, Sweetgreen’s introduction of a $10 value bowl, and restaurant trend expectations for the year ahead. First up is Cracker Barrel, which continues to reel after its rebrand and logo change from earlier in the year. Sam and Alicia discuss the latest earnings from Cracker Barrel, which included a sharp decline in traffic and sales. How might Cracker Barrel return to growth? And what can other restaurant chains learn from this whole ordeal? Next up is Sweetgreen, which is also suffering from traffic and sales declines and just announced a new $10 Harvest Bowl LTO — the fast-casual salad chain's first value offer. Sam and Alicia talk about the implications for Sweetgreen and the broader fast-casual category, which has lost momentum in 2025 as consumer behaviors shift. Then they tackle 2026 trends, and particularly a report from Yum! Brands that outlined how the restaurant company expects younger consumers to dine in the year ahead. Sam and Alicia analyze the data and offer their own expectations for what 2026 might hold for restaurants. Finally, senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn sits down with McAlister’s Deli president and chief brand officer Danielle Porto Parra and GoTo Foods corporate executive chef Brock Peek to discuss big changes to the McAlister’s menu. For more on these stories: Cracker Barrel doubles down on Southern heritage, adds kids’ meal toys amid sales slumpSweetgreen tackles value perception problem with $10 LTO bowlYum Brands trend report shows younger consumers want control of their dining experience
If you regularly dined out in New York City over the last 40 years, you've probably eaten at one of Drew Nieporent's restaurants. He opened nearly 40 of them, mostly in New York. His most well-known restaurant is, of course, Nobu, the restaurant that started the global sushi franchise. However, earlier on, there was Montrachet, a groundbreaking spot in Tribeca that maintained its three-star rating from The New York Times for 21 years. That restaurant location later opened as Bâtard, earning three stars from The Times and two from the Michelin Guide. Then there's Tribeca Grill, which, like Nobu, he opened with partner Robert De Niro, as well as the chef Nobu Matsuhisa. Drew recently looked back on his long and storied career in his book, I'm Not Trying to Be Difficult: Stories from the Restaurant Trenches, which he wrote with food writer Jamie Feldmar. Just as in his book, Drew is candid in his discussion with guest host Gloria Dawson, which touches on everything from the role of the restaurateur to why most reviews no longer matter much and what to look for in a business partner.
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including McDonald’s big win with its Grinch Meal, Subway’s controversial Sub Club revamp, and the trend of restaurant companies pushing more for menu simplicity. First up is McDonald’s new Grinch Meal release, which came with either a Big Mac or 10-piece McNugget, plus “Grinch Salt” McShaker Fries and collectible socks. The promotion, which launched Dec. 2, has been so popular that markets are starting to sell out. Sam and Alicia discuss the promotion and why it struck a chord with consumers. Next up is Subway, which revamped its Sub Club with a deal that offers a free footlong for every three purchased. Franchisees aren’t happy about the deal, which they said hurts profitability. Sam and Alicia are inclined to agree, and break down why a deal like this is tough for Subway of all chains. Then they dig into a story Alicia recently wrote about menu simplicity and why several companies are beginning to pull back after years of innovations and LTOs. Could we be seeing some decision fatigue among consumers especially? Finally, managing editor Leigh Anne Zinsmeister interviews Vishal Patel, cofounder at Tacoria Mexican Street Kitchen. For more on these stories: McDonald’s brings McShaker Fries to the U.S.Subway franchisees say the chain's new loyalty program is too aggressiveWhy simplicity matters more than ever for restaurants
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Burger King’s menu and marketing shifts, Gen Alpha’s growing importance, and the latest data on fast-food and fast-casual traffic. First up is Burger King, which is rolling out a new campaign — including four new menu items — tied to the film “The SpongeBob Movie: The Search for Squarepants.” The brand also stated its intention to double down on beef where its competitors are pushing further into chicken. What to make of these moves? Sam and Alicia share their thoughts on Burger King’s play for broader demographics and how it could signal a big evolution for the third-largest burger QSR chain. Speaking of demographics, Sam and Alicia next tackle Gen Alpha and how restaurant chains are making a play for their business with promotions tied to trends like “6-7.” Find out why it’s never too soon to build a strategy for the next generation — but also why restaurant companies must be smart of how they connect with younger customers, particularly on digital platforms like social media. Finally, Sam and Alicia discuss new data that suggests quick-service and fast-casual traffic is expected to be slow for the next several months. How might chains react to this reality — and what can they do to differentiate in a “sea of sameness”? For more on these stories: SpongeBob menu part of Burger King's new marketing strategyRestaurant brands start speaking Gen Alpha’s languageThe fast-casual category is losing steam
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Panera Bread’s plan to reclaim its fast-casual dominance, Jack in the Box’s brutal sales report, and Topgolf’s sale to a private-equity group. First up is Panera, a chain that is considered one of the OGs of fast casual but which has had unremarkable sales growth for at least a decade. New CEO Paul Carbone acknowledged that the chain’s apex was between 2005 and 2011 and laid out a plan for reclaiming that superiority in the coming years. Sam and Alicia discuss the turnaround plan and how Panera can climb to the top of a much more crowded fast-casual field. Next up is Jack in the Box, which endured a brutal 7.4% sales slide in the most recent quarter and which itself has laid out a plan for turning things around. Sam and Alicia sense a trend! Indeed, many restaurant companies have fessed up that things aren’t going to plan and that a change is needed. Why is this the case? And what can restaurants do to return to former glory? Sam and Alicia have ideas. Finally they turn their attention to Topgolf, 60% of which was acquired by private-equity firm Leonard Green for $1.1 billion. The deal takes Topgolf private, which could help the eatertainment concept deal with its own struggles. It isn’t the first restaurant chain to go from public to private this year — Denny’s and Potbelly were also acquired by private companies — and it may not be the last, as rumors swirl that chains like Pizza Hut and Noodles & Co. could be acquisition targets. What do Sam and Alicia make of this movement? Find out on the latest episode of Extra Serving. For more on these stories: Panera unveils strategic plan to ‘return to its apex’Jack in the Box charts its recovery after a tough yearTopgolf sold to private equity firm for $1.1 billion
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief SamOches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including (yes, more) updates on beverages and what could happen to the category in 2026, plus the barista strike and “Bearista” bonanza at Starbucks. First, Alicia offers her recap of the recent Restaurant Finance & Development Conference (RFDC), where she says investors seem to be more realistic about the economy and turning their eye toward four-wall growth rather than unit expansion. Then they move the conversation to beverages, discussing what we can expect from the category in 2026. Will it get even crazier? (Short answer: Yes.) Next up is Starbucks, which can’t seem to avoid the headlines lately. That included a barista strike at dozens of locations, which did not seem to disrupt the company’s Red Cup Day but did seem to suggest more issues to address with employees. Meanwhile, the company launched a new “Bearista” beverage container that sold out so quickly that many customers are growling about it online. Is this much ado about nothing or an indication of the company’s continued struggle to reassert itself as the dominant coffee player? Sam and Alicia discuss. Then Alicia weighs in on value offerings from full-service companies and how they could further build momentum particularly among casual-dining chains. Finally, catch an interview between senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn and North Italia’s beverage director, Jon Baer. For more on these stories: Why beverages will be even bigger in 2026Starbucks responds to the sold-out Bearista cup — a surprise viral merch momentHow the full-service category is redefining value
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news — and wow was there a lot of it, from M&A moves to a glut of meaningful earnings reports. They start with the M&A headlines, exploring the Denny’s acquisition, Starbucks’ sale of its China business, and Yum’s strategic review of Pizza Hut. What do these moves mean for each respective chain? Sam and Alicia break it down. Then they dive into all of the quarterly earnings reports from the week, of which, by their count, there were 20. That includes a look at casual dining — generally faring positively, with good results from Dine Brands, Texas Roadhouse, and Bloomin’ — as well as fast casual (middling results from CAVA and Wingstop and a disastrous showing by Sweetgreen) and QSR (big winners in Taco Bell and KFC, poor showings from Wendy’s and Pizza Hut). Sam and Alicia talk about the big-picture implications of the quarter and what we might expect from these leading restaurant chains going forward. For more on these stories: Denny’s acquired by group of investors for approximately $620 millionYum Brands exploring potential sale of Pizza HutWendy’s to close hundreds of U.S. restaurants
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including earnings reports from Chili’s, Chipotle, Starbucks, Shake Shack, and more, plus all the beverage news that’s fit to podcast and a roundup of new menu items with senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn. First up is a recap of the week’s earnings, which included great results from Chili’s, Shake Shack, and Burger King, not-so-great results from Chipotle, and some pretty meh results from Starbucks. Are there any trends to deduce from the winners and losers? Sam and Alicia come up with a few. Next up, they talk about — what else — beverage news! That’s right, the whole industry is gaga for beverages, and this week saw the opening of Chick-fil-A’s new beverage-focused concept Daybright, Dunkin’s push toward more cold and afternoon-focused beverages, and the news that Flynn Restaurant Group would franchise 7-Brew. How much more beverage news can two podcast hosts sustain? Sam and Alicia find out. Finally, senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn joins to talk about new menu trends he’s excited about, and about that one time he went viral in a TikTok video. For more on these stories: How Chili’s plans to continue its momentumChipotle plans to double down on value messaging to win back consumersBurger King’s focus on its signature Whopper pays off
The pandemic might have pushed Victor Lugger to create a payment app, but he argues that paying at restaurants has always been a bit broken. Asking for a check. Handing diners a printed piece of paper. Going back and forth with a credit card. “It seems insane,” Victor Lugger, the co-founder of Big Mamma restaurant group and the app Sunday, told guest host Gloria Dawson. He discusses why he was inspired to change the payment process and when his Europe-based restaurant group is heading to the states.
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Starbucks’ plans for AI, how the AWS outage hurt restaurants, and why Q3 is shaping up to be a tough one for restaurant sales. First up is Starbucks, which continues to look for a buyer for its China business and which is now officially testing its heralded assistant store manager program. The big news, though, was that CEO Brian Niccol shared at the recent Dreamforce conference that Starbucks’ AI capabilities could soon help the company start preparing guest orders before they’re even placed. Sam and Alicia discuss this potential and whether or not it’s what consumers really want from their favorite foodservice businesses. Next up, they talk about the Amazon Web Services outage that occurred last Monday and how badly it affected restaurants. Services such as DoorDash and Toast were unable to process orders, while apps from companies like McDonald’s and Starbucks were also disrupted. How can the industry learn from this event and prepare for future technology disruptions? Sam and Alicia break it down. Finally, public restaurant companies are preparing to share their third-quarter performance, and many experts are predicting some gloomy results. What does this suggest about the state of the restaurant industry and consumer? For more on these stories: Starbucks might be able to predict your coffee order in the futureThe AWS outage left many restaurants scramblingWhat to expect from Q3 earnings reports
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Jack in the Box’s sale of Del Taco, new data that shows consumers are getting deal fatigue from QSR brands, and Domino’s third quarter sales that were up more than 5%. First up is Jack in the Box, which only three years ago purchased Del Taco for nearly $600 million and yet this month sold the taco chain for a mere $115 million. Sam and Alicia discuss what might have gone wrong and why the partnering of those two brands could have been a case of bad timing (among other things). Next up, they talk about a new study that shows how the fast food category is the only restaurant segment that lost traffic in August. Could the problem be deal fatigue? Sam and Alicia talk about how consumers have become better with value perception and why traditional deals might not be cutting it anymore. Then they shift their focus once again to Domino’s Pizza, a company that could be proving the deal fatigue theory wrong. Domino’s reported its third-quarter earnings last week, with same-store sales up 5.2% on the strength of deals like its $9.99 Best Deal Ever. Find out what’s going right at Domino’s — but why that pizza chain is also sounding the alarms about what could be around the corner. Finally, we share an interview between senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn and Andy Seiple, corporate executive chef at Firebirds Wood Fired Grill. For more on these stories: Jack in the Box selling Del Taco for $115MQSR’s traffic woes may be driven by deal fatigueDomino’s leans on discounting as same-store sales grow 5.2%
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Domino’s brand refresh, Wendy’s new strategic plan, and McDonald’s Snack Wrap struggles. First up is Domino’s, which refreshed its branding with new colors, a new font, and even its first-ever jingle, recorded by Grammy-nominated musician Shaboozey. Sam and Alicia discuss this refresh and how it differs from the big rebrand at Cracker Barrel. How can restaurant chains successfully update their brands without alienizing loyal customers? Domino’s offers a case study. Next up is Wendy’s, which needs a refresh of its own and announced Project Fresh, a strategic plan designed in conjunction with marketing consultant (and former Yum! Brands CEO) Greg Creed. The plan hopes to revitalize Wendy’s brand and accelerate profitability, but in the wake of the company’s volatility — including the departure of short-tenured CEO Kirk Tanner — does Wendy’s need more action than talk? Then they shift their focus to Wendy’s competitor, McDonald’s, which maybe didn’t get the lift from Snack Wraps that it expected. Data from Placer.ai shows that McDonald’s enjoyed a brief boost from the wraps, but visits fell each week after that and lagged the overall category. Sam and Alicia discuss the bigger issue with restaurants and why new products aren’t always the silver bullet that companies hope them to be. Finally, managing editor Leigh Anne Zinsmeister joins the podcast to discuss the recent spate of bankruptcies and why it seems that several small and regional chains in particular have been forced to file. For more on these stories: Domino’s Pizza announces major brand refresh, with help from ShaboozeyWendy’s announces brand revitalization plan called Project FreshMcDonald’s Snack Wrap hasn’t impacted traffic much
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including innovations in loyalty programs, new value deal launches, and how non-chicken brands are crashing the chicken party. First up is news around loyalty programs; McDonald’s is connecting its famed Monopoly game to its loyalty program, while Krystal is launching its first loyalty effort in nearly a century of existence. Sam and Alicia discuss the latest advancements in loyalty and how it’s helping to support value messaging in this difficult economy. Speaking of value, they also tackle the recent Circana report that showed demand for value at a 50-year high. How can restaurants meet that demand without falling into a discounting pit they can’t climb out of? Finally, they discuss recent data that showed non-chicken brands using chicken innovation to steal market share from chicken chains. What does this suggest about the state of chicken in the industry — and chains’ innovation efforts more broadly? For more on these stories: McDonald’s adds digital aspect to MonopolyRestaurant customers are seeking deals at the highest rate in 50 yearsChicken spending jumps 2 points in the QSR category
For executive chef Marjorie Meek-Bradley, the draw of The View wasn’t the novelty of the rotating restaurant or the history behind the space. It was the new owners — Union Square Hospitality Group. The restaurant group reopened the historic restaurant earlier this year. Before her role at The View, Meek-Bradley spent time at restaurants in Northern California, New York City, and D.C., including stints at Bouchon, Per Se, and with STARR Restaurants at St. Anselm and Pastis. In an interview with guest host Gloria Dawson, Meek-Bradley describes how she created a menu that blends nostalgia, sustainability, and her experiences to create straightforward, delicious, and deceptively simple dishes.
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Chick-fil-A’s planned beverage concept, Starbucks’ layoffs, and a plethora of store closures. First up is Chick-fil-A, which announced that it would open a new concept called Daybright in Atlanta, serving specialty coffees, smoothies, juices, and more. It’s not too surprising considering the ongoing beverage boom — which has also included McDonald’s and Taco Bell rolling out distinct beverage-focused concepts — but is it sensible for Chick-fil-A? Sam and Alicia think so — find out why. Next they talk about Starbucks, which surprised just about everybody when it announced it would be laying off around 900 corporate employees — on the heels of the 1,100 it let go earlier this year — while also closing hundreds of North America locations. Is the sky falling at Starbucks? Sam and Alicia puzzle out this complex news and what it could mean for CEO Brian Niccol’s plan for the future. Finally they address the flood of restaurant closures, which not only includes Starbucks but also smaller concepts like Iron Hill and Craveworthy-owned Hot Chicken Takeover, both of which closed up shop on their entire systems. Are these unique instances or could they be part of something much bigger? For more on these stories: Chick-fil-A is opening a beverage concept called DaybrightStarbucks announces more layoffs, plans to close 1% of North America storesCraveworthy Brands’ Hot Chicken Takeover closes all locations
On this week’s Extra Serving, NRN editor in chief Sam Oches and executive editor Alicia Kelso discuss the latest restaurant industry news, including Cracker Barrel’s sales results from its eventful quarter, Olive Garden’s big bet on small portions, and Starbucks employees’ lawsuit against the company. First up is Cracker Barrel, which reported a sales increase in its most recent quarter — but also a drastic traffic decrease. All of this was against the backdrop of the company’s rebrand and new logo, which were met with such disdain from customers that the company reverted to its old logo and store design. Sam and Alicia discuss what could be next for Cracker Barrel and what other companies should learn from the company’s rebranding moves. They also touch on another casual brand that had a tough quarter: Dave & Buster’s. The company’s new CEO is pinning the blame on the former regime, but could something bigger be at play in the eatertainment category? Next they talk about Darden, which reported impressive sales growth across its portfolio, including over 5% growth for its two flagship brands: Olive Garden and LongHorn Steakhouse. Sam and Alicia consider what Darden is doing right when compared with other casual chains like Cracker Barrel and Dave & Buster’s. They also drill down on Olive Garden, which announced a new value play that includes smaller portions for a lower price point. Then they shift the conversation to Starbucks, which is being sued by some of its employees for the new dress code instituted by CEO Brian Niccol. What’s at stake for Starbucks in the new policy — and restaurant employees more broadly? Finally, Sam and Alicia talk about recent restaurant closures, including from Salad & Go and Maple Street Biscuit Company. For more on these stories: Cracker Barrel says traffic is down, but loyalty signups are up since rebranding controversyOlive Garden tests smaller portions and pricesStarbucks employees sue the company over new dress code




