The Conversion Show

The shift from being a "channel" to the leading "Marketplace", this is the future and Jordan shared his expertise, a must listen especially with Shopify's Chatgpt announcements this week. Jordan Brannon from Coalition Technologies discusses the evolving landscape of AI marketing, particularly the integration of AI and the importance of marketplaces and zero party data. He emphasizes the value of quizzes and surveys in capturing customer insights, which can enhance marketing strategies and improve customer experiences. The discussion also covers the challenges of cart abandonment and the future of marketplaces as they adapt to AI-driven consumer behavior.Takeaways:-AI is transforming digital marketing into a marketplace.-Quizzes and surveys provide valuable customer insights.-Zero party data is essential for personalized marketing.-Understanding customer feedback can enhance user experience.-Cart abandonment is often due to poor checkout processes.-AI can optimize marketing strategies effectively.-The future of e-commerce will focus on loyalty and relationships.-Shopify's integration with AI is a game changer.-Consumer behavior insights drive marketing success.-Effective marketing requires understanding and adapting to AI trends.Chapters00:56 The Value of Quizzes and Surveys08:37 Leveraging Zero Party Data for Marketing10:20 Unlocking Marketing Insights Through Data11:02 The Power of Quizzes and Surveys12:03 Leveraging AI for Content Creation13:38 Zero-Party Data and AI Strategies15:24 Optimizing Marketing Campaigns17:04 Building Effective Surveys19:08 Consumer Behavior and AI Insights21:32 Understanding Cart Abandonment24:08 Shopify's Role in E-commerce25:29 The Future of Marketplaces and AI29:37 Free Analytics Dashboard Offer

In this conversation, Erik and Stefan discuss the importance of email marketing in e-commerce, focusing on strategies for cart and checkout abandonment. They explore the current market conditions, the significance of customer experience, and the necessity of implementing effective email automation flows. Stefan shares insights from his experience in the industry, emphasizing the need for businesses to start with the basics and gradually build their email marketing strategies to enhance customer retention and drive revenue.TakeawaysCart abandonment emails are a significant revenue source.Understanding customer behavior is key to effective marketing.New customer flows help build long-term relationships.Focus on customer experience to improve retention rates.Implementing basic email flows can drive immediate results.Testing and optimizing email strategies is crucial for success.Personalization in emails can enhance customer engagement.Utilizing pop-ups effectively can grow email lists.Start with the fundamentals before exploring advanced strategies.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Background04:16 Market Conditions and Email Marketing Trends09:51 The Importance of Cart Abandonment Emails15:48 Strategies for Effective Email Automation20:48 The Importance of Value Exchange in Marketing22:00 Understanding Client Needs and Unique Selling Points24:24 Client Engagement and Building Client Intelligence25:38 Email Automation Strategies for E-commerce27:06 Growing Email Lists and Subscriber Engagement31:12 Identifying High Intent Visitors for Better Conversion34:29 The Significance of New Customer Flows44:26 Final Thoughts on Implementation and Best Practices

In this conversation, Rob and Erik discuss the challenges and strategies in e-commerce marketing, focusing on user engagement, conversion optimization, and the importance of a unified approach in agency operations. Rob shares insights from his experience with The Modern Shopper, emphasizing the need for effective use of pop-ups and CRO tools, the significance of understanding customer behavior, and the impact of market uncertainty on marketing strategies. They explore the balance between achieving KPIs and maintaining quality leads, as well as the importance of retargeting existing customers to maximize conversion rates.TakeawaysPeople are averse to pop-ups, affecting engagement rates.Long-term user experience should be prioritized over short-term metrics.E-commerce teams often lack focus on effective email pop-up usage.Traffic activation is crucial for conversion success.Agencies need streamlined operations to manage multiple clients.Modern Shopper aims to ease the burden on marketing teams.Trust and reliability are key in client relationships.Quality leads are more valuable than sheer quantity.User experience principles should guide marketing strategies.Market uncertainty requires brands to adapt their strategies.Chapters01:30 The Importance of User Experience in Growth Marketing04:22 Identifying and Solving E-commerce Challenges07:26 Leveraging Owned Media Channels for E-commerce Success10:19 The Role of Lifecycle Teams in E-commerce13:20 Understanding the Impact of Uncertainty in E-commerce16:19 Optimizing Customer Retention Strategies19:38 The Psychology of Consumer Engagement22:29 Preparing for Seasonal Sales and Promotions25:37 Maximizing Traffic and Conversion Rates28:24 Visitor Identification and Its Implications31:43 The Future of E-commerce Tools and Strategies

In this episode of The Conversion Show, Erik Christiansen interviews Adam Tuttle, who shares his extensive 13 year experience with ActiveCampaign, an email and marketing automation company. They discuss the evolution of ActiveCampaign, its market position, the impact of AI on sales operations, and the importance of building relationships in sales. Adam also reflects on his time in Australia, highlighting cultural differences in work-life balance and the growing tech scene. The conversation emphasizes the need for companies to adapt to changing market dynamics and the significance of human connection in sales.

In this conversation, Erik Christiansen and Larry Kim delve into the complexities of the website visitor identification industry, discussing its current state, the accuracy of data, and the implications of using such data in marketing strategies. They explore the differences between first-party and third-party data, the challenges of ensuring data accuracy, and the potential costs associated with using inaccurate data. The discussion emphasizes the need for transparency and understanding in the industry, highlighting the importance of accurate data for effective marketing.ChaptersUnderstanding Website Visitor Identification TechnologyTransparency and Accuracy in Visitor IdentificationChallenges of Data Accuracy and Its ImplicationsEstablishing a Baseline for Testing AccuracyFirst-Party vs. Third-Party DataThe Importance of Accurate Data in MarketingThe Cost of Poor Data QualityMatch Rate vs. Accuracy in Visitor IdentificationThe Dangers of Relying on Inaccurate DataIndustry Reactions and Future DirectionsConcluding Thoughts and Lessons Learned

Travis and I are joined by an expert in data and identity in advertising - Kyle Antoian - Founder of Zeke Strategy.In this conversation, Kyle Antoian discusses the significant changes in marketing strategies due to Apple's App Tracking Transparency (ATT) and the evolving landscape of digital marketing. He emphasizes the importance of collecting customer data, building identity graphs, and adapting to the loss of third-party cookies. The discussion also covers the resurgence of direct mail and the need for marketers to leverage their own data to create effective lookalike audiences.We covered powerful subjects relating to  Digital Advertising Post-ATTImpact of iOS 14.5 on Marketing StrategiesThe Cookie Conundrum and Alternative SolutionsFuture of Digital Marketing in a Privacy-Centric WorldThe Importance of Post-Purchase EngagementLeveraging Zero-Party Data for MarketingBuilding Lookalike Audiences: Strategies and InsightsThe Role of Identity Graphs in MarketingNavigating Attribution Challenges in E-CommerceUnderstanding App vs. On-Site ExperiencesLead Capture: The Foundation of Customer Engagement

In this episode I sit down with my Co-Founder and CTO, Travis Logan and we catch up on the weeks in's and out's of the business and SaaS/Ecommerce industry. Enjoy the show!Key Subjects:Co-Founder Relationship & TrustIndustry Trends & Company InsightsReporting in SaaS companies Reporting Challenges & Enhancements  Customer Requests for Advanced AnalyticsQuizzes & Advanced Reporting NeedsE-commerce & MarTech LandscapeShopify vs. BigCommerceKlaviyo's CDP & Broader Industry MovesIntegration Updates & ExpansionsGoogle AI & Future ImplicationsInvestment in SaaS & AIEntrepreneurial EdgeCar Shopping & Marketing Strategies SMS Marketing & Lead Capture

In this episode of "The Conversion Show" podcast, Erik Christiansen welcomes guests John Gillie, Founder & CEO of TruckTractorTrailer.com (TTT), and Allan Anastacio, Head of Sales & Sales Operations at TTT. From traditional to digital, John and Allan take us into the world of conversion marketing within the trucking industry. They discuss the unique challenges and opportunities in modernizing the trucking industry by providing a digital marketplace for buying and selling trucks, along with various services like financing and insurance.Erik, John, and Allan discuss:Modernizing the trucking industry to keep up with industry standards and meet customer expectations.Buyer-seller imbalance: attracting and retaining buyers and converting visitors to customers.The right tools and partnerships are crucial for their growth.Refining their website's user experience.Continuous improvement and adaptation are key to navigating a rapidly changing market and achieving long-term success. Host: Erik Christiansen, CEO of JustunoGuest: John Gillie, Founder & CEO of TruckTractorTrailer.comGuest: Allan Anastacio, Head of Sales & Sales Operations at TruckTractorTrailer.comTranscript:Erik 00:00:51Welcome to the Conversion Show. Today we have our special guest, John Gill, along with him, his counterpart Allan Anastacio, who heads up sales operations, everything which we'll get into today because we'd love to find out how our retailers operate behind the walls. but special guest, because we have a guest, you know, customer here with hands-on experience.Erik 00:01:18And so in the retail world, truck, tractor trailer.com, hop on LinkedIn. You can find, both John and Allan on there and check out their backgrounds. But, welcome to the show, gentlemen.John 00:01:31Thank you. Eric.Erik 00:01:33So we are just wrapping about this industry of truck tractor trailer. and how to engage you are with your own audience. and customers, leveraging your email list 250,000 is share out, not just sale stuff, but more of your podcast and content. today, looking at what you are, what campaigns you're currently running, which is a lot of engagement with your visitors.Erik 00:02:08Allan, you mentioned earlier what brought you to Justuno? I'd love to hear a little bit more again of, you know what Initially you were hoping to achieve and most importantly, where are we today? but what goals and focus are you to working on to grow your business?Allan 00:02:28Yeah. that's a great question. Eric. And, you know, I think it's really important for, us to really, understand our platform, and understand really what our goal is on there. Well, we are a SaaS-based e-commerce platform, a marketplace for buyers and sellers. but we call ourselves more of a community.Allan 00:02:50and, you know, our main goal is really to connect those buyers and sellers, but, you know, as you were talking about, with that before, how there's a lot of new technology out in the marketplace. There's a lot of technology on it. There's a lot of data that you can, you know, you can you can put IoT, you know, you can get your data, you know,...

In this episode of "The Conversion Show" podcast, Erik Christiansen welcomes back Jon MacDonald, President & Founder of The Good, and author of "Behind the Click".  Erik and Jon discuss digital experience optimization and e-commerce sales conversion strategies. They also highlight ethical marketing practices, understanding consumer psychology and behavior, and how staying attuned to consumer needs and preferences is essential for success. Jon also shares a discount code for his book "Behind the Click," plus a chance to get a signed hard copy.Erik and Jon discuss:“What’s In It for Me?” consumers seek relevance and authenticity in return for their loyalty.Experience optimization vs. digital experience optimization.The magic of free shipping.Investing in customer experience beyond just conversion.Why do some shoppers abandon their carts? And what can you do about it?Test, test, test, learn, repeat.Host: Erik Christiansen, CEO of JustunoGuest: Jon MacDonald, President & Founder of the goodGet a copy of Jon’s book, Behind the Click, and use code “btcpodcast50”  for 50% off. Plus, get your hard copy of Behind the Click signed by Jon Macdonald send an email to (kathryn@justuno.com) or message Jon or Erik on LinkedIn. Transcript:Erik  00:00:50Welcome to the conversion show. Today we have our longstanding guest, Jon MacDonald from the good. Welcome, Jon.Jon 00:00:58Thanks for having me once again.Erik 00:01:01So Jon's just come in fresh off his his recent book tour. What is a digital book tour?Jon 00:01:07Yeah, right, have something printed in analog and then do all the promotions digitally. That's pretty much what I've done. Although I had I did get one speaking engagement out of it, that I did in person. that specifically approached because of the book. So, yeah, that was in person. That was analog. And yeah, really excited about how how the launch has gone.Erik 00:01:30It's really the podcast tour these days.Jon 00:01:33More than anything. and it's so easy, right, to to just hop on for a half hour, an hour, have a great conversation and reach hundreds of people. it's it's hard to do that from the convenience of of your office on a daily basis.Erik 00:01:48So anyone that doesn't know, Jon, look em up on LinkedIn. Jon McDonald. We'll drop a link here. Jon is one of our closest conversion allies here in the in the industry. Jon is is out there, building programs, working with working with clients to ensure they optimize their digital experiences to convert. I was catching up on the good.Erik 00:02:14I notice you have the digital experience optimization program, which as I run through it, it's, you know, if I was running, a retail business, any sort of business with a website, you would be the first person I call.Jon 00:02:31I hear that sounds a lot coming from you.Erik 00:02:33Yeah. Well, so, we'll drop the link to this, too, and we'll actually going to touch on some of this stuff today for the audience. What we're talking about today. What is it? July 17th, 2024 is really, you know, Jon and I catch up every quarter. And today we're going to be talking about what's top of mind inside the walls at...

In this episode of "The Conversion Show" podcast, Erik Christiansen welcomes back Jon MacDonald, President & Founder of the good, and author of "Behind the Click".  Erik and Jon delve into consumer psychology and the psychological principles that shape our online decisions and how they impact a company's digital presence. They also discuss the digital customer journey and the importance of understanding customer needs and decision-making processes to improve conversion rates, retention, and trust. Jon also offered a discount code for the e-book version of "Behind The Click," and shares key takeaways for busy readers. Erik an Jon discuss:Understanding the customer's mindset at each phase of the buying life cycle.Decision fatigue and the critical role of simplifying the purchasing process.Building trust and ensuring customer retention through the post-purchase experience.Challenges of personalization and the power of segmentation and automation.Host: Erik Christiansen, CEO of JustunoGuest: Jon MacDonald, President & Founder of the goodTranscriptErik 00:00:51 We're going to kick off the conversion show today with Jon MacDonald, a former guest. And I'm really happy to have Jon today because, wanted to celebrate his new book, Behind the Click. I read his last one, opt in in the Optimizing Optimization. also founder of the good. And today we are talking about consumer psychology. and so welcome, Jon, to the show.Jon 00:01:18Hey, thanks for having me again. Great to be back.Erik 00:01:20I was excited to talk about consumer psychology because it's what we've been talking about a lot lately. would you like to share? Let's hear about the book real quick. Let's hear about why you wrote it and what you're covering in it.Jon 00:01:36Well, Behind the Click is about the psychological principles, behind the shortcuts that our brains take to make decisions every day. And how the different elements of your company's digital experience either guide customers towards that purchase, or sends them running to a competitor. And so understanding all of these, I think, you know, what has happened is I've been in the CRO industry for 15 years now.Jon 00:02:04You know, the good just turned 15 in April and, you know, the more work that we've done to optimize conversion rates, the more we've realized that to make real, lasting gains, you have to pull way further back on the customer experience than just conversion. And that was kind of a light bulb moment for this book, right? So many factors affect your conversions.Jon 00:02:29and it starts way before a customer even begins to start thinking about purchasing from you. Right? As they're doing their research, they have a need. So every element of your website tells the customers something about what they do or do not want with or to buy from you, right? It's one of those things where if you have to understand in order to be effective, what's...

In this episode of "The Conversion Show" podcast, Erik Christiansen interviews Drew Clark CEO, Founder, and Director at California Cowboy. Drew opened up about the rollercoaster ride of running a retail business, especially with the crumbling of the digital and seismic shifts in e-commerce. From website redesigns, site speed, and content creation to the return of physical stores; Erik and Drew cover the essential tweaks that can skyrocket your conversion rates.Erik and Drew discuss:From fires to covid, how California Cowboy bounced back in the face of unpredictable challenges.The digital shift and its impact on marketing.Product features and design elements of California Cowboy apparel.The highs and lows of return on ad spend.Website redesign + speed, growth trajectory, and conversion rates.Community, cost-saving, and creating a collective experience through sharing retail space with local brands.Host: Erik Christiansen, CEO of JustunoGuest: Drew Clark, Drew Clark, CEO, Founder, & Director at California CowboyTranscript:Intro 00:00:05Welcome to the Conversion Show, a podcast that's all about. You guessed it, conversions, everything that gets you to your goal, whether that's purchase, lead capture app, install content downloads, chat engagement, or demo requests. We're talking conversions hosted by Erik Christiansen, CEO and co-founder of the leading conversion optimization platform, Justuno. On the conversion show, Erik sits down with industry-leading marketers, e-commerce growth experts, founders, and entrepreneurs to chat all things conversion marketing. Be sure to follow the conversion show podcast to be notified when a new episode goes live. Like what you hear? Leave us some love with a review. And now here's your host, Eric Christiansen.Erik 00:00:50Welcome to the conversion show. Today is a special day. It's our first in-person interview. Here I am joined by Drew Clark, CEO and founder of California Cowboy. California Cowboy, Do you want to share a little bit about California Cowboy? Sure. You guys are done?Drew 00:01:09Yeah, We make after sport apparel that's kind of designed to help you enjoy life offline as all of our product kind of has designed features that enable you to put your phone away. There's a dry pocket on the back of most of our products and it come with conversation cards. They're really fun. It can help you start or stop conversations, subtle reminders that it's so fun to talk to people in real life instead of just sliding into their dance.Drew 00:01:36And then there's also bottle pockets of package our shirts and robes.Erik 00:01:39You can lock your phone?Drew 00:01:41We do make a product at all, and we call it the pocket pouch that actually prevents electromagnetic signals from getting to your phone. So this is very dark edge technology fabric that you slide your filter to the pouch and you kind of put it down, and it's just committing to

In this episode of "The Conversion Show," Erik Christiansen, CEO of Justuno, is joined by Travis Logan, Co-Founder & CTO of Justuno, and this week's guest Brian Peters, Head of Platform Partnerships at Shopify. The conversation kicks off by looking at the most talked about statistic from Brain's presentation at the Shopify Enterprise Partner Summit 2023, 35% of Shopify Plus merchants have seen smaller cart sizes and 50% are seeing less site traffic and lower conversion rates. Brian breaks down what this means for merchants and what the future looks like for E-commerce. Erik, Travis, and Brian discuss:Finding the right product-market fit.Brand identity online.Influencer marketingMarketing is brand experience.Does high customization equal high converting?To survive as a brand you have to convert at checkout.Zero-party data expands beyond your email list.Why Shopify is the number one converting checkout in the world.Host: Erik Christiansen, CEO of JustunoGuest: Travis Logan, CTO at JustunoGuest: Brian Peters, Head of Platform Partnerships at ShopifyTranscript:Erik 00:00:50 - 00:01:22Welcome to the show today. I'm very excited because I have two guests. And so this is going to be a jam-packed episode where we're going to gain some insights into Shopify like never before. We're going to learn what that the leadership, what's top of mind with the Shopify leadership along with just, you know, leadership. Because today I have my my co-founder, Travis Logan, CTO of just, you know, on the show and Brian Peters, head of platform partnerships at Shopify.Erik 00:01:22 - 00:01:33So hang on, today is going to be a very insightful show. So we're going to jump into it. And the reason I have Brian on the show today. Welcome, Brian. Well, thank you.Brian 00:01:33 - 00:01:34Thank you. Good to be here.Erik 00:01:34 - 00:02:06I have Brian on here because I was down at the Shopify Enterprise event down in L.A., right by where that I-10 fire was, what, two days ago? I'm not surprised because that, you know, no Shopify, they like to select very colorful neighborhoods to have events like this colorful, really cool spot in the heart of downtown L.A. Brian got on stage and gave a presentation and he had a slide that stood out to me.Erik 00:02:06 - 00:02:45And that's what we're talking about today. The quotes from the slide were, according to a survey of Shopify Plus merchants, 35% have seen smaller cart sizes and 50% are seeing less site traffic and lower conversion rates. Now, we also the second reason we're here is Travis and I were at the Google next event in San Francisco wandering the expo and we stumbled upon a Shopify booth at Google Nexus conference.Erik 00:02:46 - 00:03:16Which one was...

In this episode of "The Conversion Show," Erik Christiansen, CEO of Justuno, interviews Alex Courselle, Founder and CEO of KARL Mission a conversion rate optimization (CRO) agency. With over a decade of experience in CRO, Alex shared some invaluable insights that are relevant as we approach the holiday season. Alex discusses the science behind unlocking successful conversions, the art of building trust with customers, and the rising trend of focusing on SEO due to increasing costs. Erik and Alex discuss:The significance of analyzing mobile and desktop trafficThe tactful application of product recommendations and upsellsThe need for engaging contentThe DNA of successful CRO clientsWhere businesses fall short in understanding client personasHost: Erik Christiansen, CEO of JustunoGuest: Alex Courselle, Founder & CEO of KARL MissionTranscript:Erik 00:00:50Welcome back to the Conversion Show. Today I have a special guest that I think anyone going into this holiday season is going to be very excited about. With me today is Alex Courselle, who has ten-plus years in CRO and is founder CEO of KARL Mission. So if you are in front of a computer, check out karlmission.com You'll get the whole breakdown.Erik 00:01:14But welcome to the show Alex.Alex 00:01:17Thank you so much for having me. That's pretty cool.Erik 00:01:20So for today's show, it is November 6th. And everyone's gearing up. You know they've hit play. Everyone's already started their cyber sales. because you know it's not just one day anymore. We're all getting the emails. But there's still more to be done. Every website can always be optimized. Campaigns can always be updated. So today what we're going to do for our listeners is really hear, you know, with Alex's experience, what's trending, what is top of mind with CRO today. And see if we can't get some insights that maybe you can still apply to your sites for this holiday season. So with that, I'm putting you on the spot right off the bat, Alex. But before we do that, let's set the stage for your background. Ten years in CRO, it's very rare for us to come across talent and experience like yours.Erik 00:02:20So could you just share with the crowd, what you're doing at KARL Mission and how you got there?Alex 00:02:27Yeah. For sure. So. Basically, I started in design and I went into SEO. I stayed in that cluster of digital marketing kind of roles, up to that time I was production director. And then our company, I started being bought by a prospect, and then the option was open to do whatever. So I just decided to start into CRO. It was back in Paris and a prospect and very interesting because at the time there were no merch products and people didn't understand it as well. So it needs to be, you know, easy to understand for everyone. So I had to create the packages and everything. So I really started from scratch. My whole experience didn't really have much guidance or anything. So it was really it was a bit the Western at the time. I felt like the field was empty, the street was empty, no...

In this episode of "The Conversion Show," Erik Christiansen, CEO of Justuno, interviews Drew Sanocki, Founder of PostPilot. Drew has an extensive background in retail and shares his insights on how direct mail can be a game-changer for e-commerce businesses and explains the features of PostPilot, including segmentation, automation, remarketing, retargeting, and acquisition. Erik and Drew discuss:The integration capabilities of Post Pilot with platforms like Shopify and Klaviyo.The concept of the discount ladder and the 30, 60, 90 plan.Optimizing retention, basket size, and conversion rates before focusing on customer acquisition. The key to effective postcard designs is treating direct mail like a Facebook ad. The shift in mindset regarding direct-to-consumer brands.Watch the episode on The Conversion Show YouTube channelHost: Erik Christiansen https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikc/Guest: Drew Sanocki https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanocki/Justuno https://www.justuno.com/PostPilot https://postpilot.com/Transcript:Intro 00:00:05Welcome to the Conversion Show, a podcast that's all about. You guessed it, conversions, everything that gets you to your goal, whether that's purchase, lead capture app, install content downloads, chat engagement, or demo requests. We're talking conversions hosted by Erik Christiansen, CEO and co-founder of the leading conversion optimization platform, Justuno. On the conversion show, Erik sits down with industry-leading marketers, e-commerce growth experts, founders, and entrepreneurs to chat all things conversion marketing. Be sure to follow the conversion show podcast to be notified when a new episode goes live. Like what you hear? Leave us some love with a review. And now here's your host, Eric Christiansen.Erik 00:00:51Welcome to the conversion show today. I'm really proud to have my guest, Drew Sanocki, who we go back ten-plus years and I encourage anyone listening if you're in front of a computer and type Drew Sanocki into LinkedIn and you're going to find a background that is is very well, what's the word? Diverse. Drew 00:01:17Long and boring.Erik 00:01:18It's well-versed. KarmelLoop retailer he's been a retailer himself he is now CEO of Post Pilot a direct-to-consumer postcards highly segmented which is what we're going to get into today. Very exciting. So let's welcome to the show Drew.Drew 00:01:37 Thanks, Eric. It's good to see you again. As you said, we've known each other for ten-plus years. I remember when we took over Karmaloop you know, we got it out of bankruptcy. And one of the first things we did was put Justuno up. And that was probably 2014, 2015, just to reengineer the pop up. And they were amazed at how we went from, I don't know, we probably ten next to the opt-ins in a week back then.Erik 00:02:02Drew has always been a...

In this episode of "The Conversion Show" podcast, Erik Christiansen interviews Blair Beckwith, head of E-commerce at Tidio and Founder at Railspur.Erik and Blair, with their combined experience of 20 years in the Shopify ecosystem, discuss their experiences and reflect on the changes in the Shopify app store over the past 10 years and what's yet to come in the next few.Erik and Blair discuss:The need for businesses to diversify platforms to truly thrive.Brands aren't doing product-led growth correctly.Anxiety and concern among app partners regarding competition from ShopifyExperimentation and impeccable products are key in today's dynamic ecosystem.Is "freemium" still a sexy term? Product-led growth, pricing models, and the challenges faced by developers.Host: Erik ChristiansenGuest: Blair BeckwithSponsored by: 38 Proven Email Pop Up designs by JustunoTidioRailspurTranscript:Erik 00:51All right, folks. Today is a special day for the conversion show because one of the top questions I get asked personally is having been in the shop ecosystem for ten plus years, one of the first questions I always get asked is, hey, what's what's the check? What's the deal with the Shopify App Store? And you know, anyone who's in this world today is the show for you because you have combined 20 years exactly of Shopify App Store experience between Blair and I. I just looked it up March 19, 2013, Blair and I first emailed each other. So today's show, you saw the title, you know who's on here, Blair Beckwith, welcome to the show.Blair 01:44Thanks for having me. Eric, I was looking today, too, and I was I mean, I was thinking back, I think that we met in person maybe that summer in San Francisco. It was one of my first trips as a Shopify employee. Shopify was so small back then, I barely had a budget for a hotel. I remember staying in the Tenderloin and meeting up with you for lunch. You had a little office, and I think I want to call like the financial district. Was that what that area was called?Erik 02:15Yeah, we moved offices every year for a while and, we were probably on 2nd and Mission.Blair 02:26It was a little bit more like a corporate building. It was a little bit more modern. It was on a nonground floor. I remember taking an elevator. I remember walking with you to go get sandwiches down by the water.Erik 02:28I was trying to impress you, huh?Blair 02:39Yeah. Yeah, it was, man, it was a long time ago.Erik 02:43I do have to correct you because you said you were. It was early days as an employee, but technically, weren't you an intern?Blair 02:53By that point, I had graduated to full-time employment status. No. Yeah, I started. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we can get into all that we can get into. Well, for sure.Erik 03:03It's funny. Like, I'm trying to remember back the earliest memory, and in talking about budgets, you know, Shopify. I didn't have the budget for a hotel for you. We've always just seen as always...

In this episode of "The Conversion Show" podcast, Erik Christiansen interviews Kyle Brucculeri VP of E-commerce at Gorjana.Kyle highlighted the need for businesses to own their first-party data, moving away from reliance on third-party pixels like Facebook. Kyle also emphasizes the importance of understanding user needs and providing clarity in the value exchange between customers and omnichannel brands.Kyle and Erik discuss:How changes in first-party and zero-party data are reshaping the way businesses interact with their customers.Bridging the gap between online and offline experience.Reliance on discounts and sales isn't necessary to maintain brand value.The value of retail stores in enhancing the customer experience and building trust.Owning first-party data and moving away from relying on third-party pixels.Importance of understanding visitor identities for personalization and conversion optimization.Creative alternatives for engaging visitors and capturing data.Host: Erik ChristiansenGuest: Kyle BrucculeriJustunoGorjana

In this special *CROSSOVER* episode of "The Conversion Show" podcast, we're sharing an episode of Show Me Your Tech Stack, where Erik sits down with Matthew Seifert, Senior Director of Retention and Monetization at Pretty Litter to talk about their MarTech stack and customer retention strategies. Matthew shares his approach to building a strategy, which involves starting from the top with company goals and working his way down to specific tactics, always keeping ROI in mind. The episode provides insights into the MarTech stack and customer retention strategies of a successful e-commerce brand.Erik and Matthew dive into:Apps used by Pretty Litter and their cart technologyIncentivizing First-Time Customers Pretty Litter's referral programThe Realities of Being a Digital MarketerMigrating SMS providersExpanding to international marketsHow digital marketers are always hungry for more informationHost: Erik Christiansen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikc/Guest: Matthew Seifert - https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewseifert/Justuno - https://www.justuno.com/Pretty Litter - https://www.prettylitter.com/

In this episode of The Conversion Show podcast, Erik Christiansen interviews Mona Sutherland, Director, Digital Marketing, North America at Grendene Global Brands (Shop Melissa and Shop Ipanema). Mona shares her insights on conversion marketing, focusing on return on ad spend (ROAS) and analyzing sales conversions, as well as the importance of leveraging technology to improve efficiency and the overall customer experience. Mona and Erik discuss:the role of AI tools and automation in reducing bounce rates improving relevancy for the consumer the challenges of managing paid media and digital marketing for multiple brandsleveraging influencer marketing and user-generated content to drive traffic and saleshow to provide a better customer experiencethe importance of customer data and segmentation for personalization at scaleovercoming challenges with the right tech stackHost: Erik Christiansen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikc/Guest: Mona Sutherland - https://www.linkedin.com/in/monasutherland/Justuno - https://www.justuno.com/Grendene Global Brands (Melissa) - https://www.shopmelissa.com/

In this podcast episode, Erik Christiansen, CEO and Co-founder of Justuno, and Rita Zahir, VP of Marketing & E-Commerce at Awe Inspired discuss the important of investing in zero and first-party data to optimize every facet of your marketing efforts.Rita and Erik talk through:The importance of using data effectively, not just collecting it.Providing true value to customersMobile-first customer experience’s & the role of mobile appsChannel diversification & segmentation for prioritization and acquisitionNew mediums like YouTube shorts & the importance of staying up-to-date on emerging technologies to elevate your brandHost: Erik Christiansen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikc/Guest: Rita Zahir - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritazahirJustuno - https://www.justuno.com/Awe Inspired - https://aweinspired.com/

In this podcast episode, Erik Christiansen, CEO and Co-founder of Justuno, and John Gross, Founder, CEO, & Head of Growth Strategy at Fat Earth Media discuss the importance of trust in conversion and how investing in brand identity can make it easier to convince customers to purchase. Erik and John talk through: the importance of storytelling and investing in brand, particularly for mission-driven brandsanalyzing a brand's mission and story, and how to calibrate the mission to the productinvesting in brand and customer feedback to build a community and create word-of-mouth supportersleveraging user-generated content (UGC) to improve brand awarenessbuilding touch points to give customers a better experience with the brandthe potential of subscription services as a marketing strategy the importance of a holistic approach to marketingHost: Erik Christiansen - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikc/Guest: John Gross - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johntgross/Justuno: https://www.justuno.com/Fat Earth Media: https://www.fat-earth.com/