Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins

In this episode, Malcolm and Simone dive deep into a fascinating NBC study that explores the stark differences in values, priorities, and life choices among Americans based on political affiliation and gender. They discuss why fertility rates are diverging so dramatically between groups, what men and women who voted for Trump or Harris value most in life, the impact of career, financial independence, and family on personal fulfillment, how cultural and generational shifts are shaping the future of America, the role of marriage, debt, and emotional stability in modern society, and surprising insights from pop culture and personal anecdotes. Listen in for a thought-provoking conversation about the future of the country, the challenges of demographic change, and what it means to live a successful life today. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more in-depth discussions! Episode Transcript: Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Simone. I am excited to be here with you today.Today we are going to be discussing. A, a fascinating study that came out from NBC that was looking at what was important to men who voted for Trump versus Kamala Harris, and women who voted for Trump versus Kamala Harris. And what you can see is. People who vote for Kamala Harris are not gonna play a big role in our country’s future.No. They’re basically deleting themselves from the population because while there had been differences in the past in fertility rates within these groups, it is exploding. So I wanna talk about these preferences. I wanna talk about why they’re different. And to give you an idea of how different they are.Men who voted for Trump when they were ranking like important for their definition of like success. Literally the top thing. The number one thing was having children.Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.Malcolm Collins: Women who voted for Harris. Literally the last thing of importance to them was [00:01:00] having children. Which only, yeah, onlySimone Collins: only 6% ofMalcolm Collins: women voted for Harris, which by the way, tied with being married.Yeah. And not a lot of interest. People retire early, so like financial stability is the other thing they don’t care about. My God. So thoughts on like the, the, that, that number before we go further so that, because a lot of the numbers that I’ve looked at before show like Democrat and Republicans being like 78% to like a hundred percent different in terms of fertility rates, but this would suggest that it’s dramatically higher than that for this next generation.Simone Collins: Yeah, this doesn’t look good. I, I’m used to seeing much more moderated results from surveys like these, you know, like, oh, they’re, they’re meaningfully different, but this is violently different.Malcolm Collins: Yeah.Simone Collins: And I think it’sMalcolm Collins: because these two groups are becoming more violently different from each other.Simone Collins: Yeah,Malcolm Collins: absolutely.In terms of values.Simone Collins: Absolutely. It is also sobering to me, however, just how low priority having children is for [00:02:00] anyone. That it’sMalcolm Collins: literally the top priority for men who voted for Trump.Simone Collins: Yes. Except everyone else, it, it’s not at the top. Yeah. So let’s, let’s talk aboutMalcolm Collins: this. Let’sSimone Collins: talk about women who vote Trump, women who voted for Trump.It’s right in the middle of the list of, of things presented, although 26% still want to have children. But that’s Malcolm. That’s 26%. That’s a quarter. Yeah.Malcolm Collins: It’s only 26% of voting Who voted for Trump? AndSimone Collins: then keep in mind, so, so men, oh men who voted for Trump, who really value having kids. Sorry, 34% value.That’s a third Malcolm. All like, yeah, no. Yeah. They, sure. Of, of the, of the population polled, but this is if only a third of men,Malcolm Collins: so women who voted for Trump. Like what did women who vote for Trump care about more than having kids, right? Yeah.Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: The top thing for them, and this was more important than them, than having kids with, for many who voted for Trump, was financial independence.Mm-hmm. Which yeah. AndSimone Collins: second is having a fulfilling job career, which is also fulfilling Job. Career is [00:03:00] number one for women who voted for Harris. It’s actually, no, it’s alsoMalcolm Collins: true for men who voted for Harris. So the funny thing, yeah. About the women who voted for Trump, who, you know, care about money and career, right?Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Is the way that they framed it in terms of what they picked was financial independence. Then for both the men and the women who voted for Harris, it wasn’t that they wanted financial independence, it’s that they wanted enough money to do the things they wanted and to have a fulfilling job or basically enjoy their day job.Well, I think fertility is, they wanted to have fun and have money, but they didn’t care about independence.Simone Collins: Fertility is inversely correlated to the extent to which you. Opt in to an atomized capitalist to society where you buy everything you want. So if, if you opt into a community-based society or a family-based society where the vast majority of the goods and services that you value and enjoy and past times involve or, or, or we’ll say endogenous, they come from within your family or community unit, you’re gonna have kids.But the more you lean into, I [00:04:00] will buy every single thing. Individually, I’m going to buy all my food. I’m not gonna make it home. I’m not gonna get it from my family. I’m gonna buy all my entertainment. It’s not gonna come from within my home or from my kids or from my spouse. I’m gonna pay for stuff that makes me entertained.That will make you less and less fertile. And I think that’s why the focus is on getting this job and career because they’re, they’re opting into the very dynamic that caused the beginning of demographic collapse to begin with, which was industrialization, which was leaving the home. Going out and working and trading money for anything that you want instead of getting it from within your own family unit.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. I, I think that’s right. To go over like what men who voted for, well, actually let’s look at what women who voted for Hearst, what do they actually value? Because I think that helped us, like mm-hmm. Key into this, and we’ll, we’ll go through the chart and we’ll contrast it with some of the others.Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Number one, and this was true for men who voted for Harris, so they’re actually pretty aligned. The men and women who vote for Harris their top three [00:05:00] are the same. No, notSimone Collins: top three, only top two.Malcolm Collins: Oh, the, the third one is almost the same. No. Yeah.Simone Collins: So for women, number one, fulfilling job, career.Number two, having money to do things you want, that’s the same for men. But then women’s number three priority and God help them ‘cause it’s never gonna happen is having emotional stability. No,Malcolm Collins: but what’s funnier if you look at the charts, and we often go over this on our show, is that there is no demographic that is more emotionally unstable than progressive women.BothSimone Collins: Well, and you know, I’ll point out. That emotional stability is near or at the bottom of the list for men and women who voted for Trump. Yeah, and I think this just goes to show how mental health and specifically poor mental healthMalcolm Collins: is a just, it’s, it’s a. It’s downstream of obsessing about mental health.Simone Collins: Well, yeah. And, and, and it’s pervasive within progressive culture. And they’re aware of it and they’re like, I wish I had this. And they don’t. And I do think also that there’s a big correlation between having poor mental health and [00:06:00] not having a family and religion and strong hard culture that that gives you something more important to worry about than your stupid whims.‘cause we all have demons. We all have demons. There’s no space for my demon because we have kids, right? Like, but I had, yeah.Malcolm Collins: It burns the selfishness out of you as one of the other moms say Yes.Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: No, I, I completely agree with that, but I think that this is something that we used to intuit as a society much more easily.Mm. A lot of progressives, they don’t have conservative friends. They don’t watch conservative influencers. No. So they are unaware of the within conservative spaces, the, the significantly higher degree of emotional stability that’s expected. But when we look into the past, even with like recent models of conservatives, like say ron Swanson.Speaker: I’ve been developing the Swanson Pyramid of greatness for years. It’s a perfectly calibrated recipe for maximum personal achievement. Categories include capitalism, God’s way of determining who is smart and who is poor., Property [00:07:00] rights, fish for sport only, not for meat. Fish meat is practically a vegetable. Haircuts. There are three acceptable haircuts, high and tight. Crew. Cut, buzz cut.Speaker 2: Feel no sympathy.Malcolm Collins: Right. Ron Swanson may be incorrect about things in a conservative like way but he, he is, he is nothing if not emotionally stable most of the time other than when he is dealing with his exes. When he is dealing with ex women, he becomes emotionally, which I love. He’s logicalSimone Collins: in his attempt to resist, to resist them.Malcolm Collins: But generally speaking, he is like, when contrasted with the progressive coated boss character who’s like all into yoga and all into like eating healthy and is a vegan he’s, he’s constantly shown as being like the, the epitome of emotional stability,Simone Collins: right.Malcolm Collins: Because he knows what he’s about, as he would say.Yeah. And knowing what you’re about I think is [00:08:00] really the key to emotional stability.

In this episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into the controversy surrounding the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel’s show, exploring the intersection of free speech, media ethics, and the shifting landscape of late-night television. They analyze the facts behind Kimmel’s suspension, compare it to other high-profile media firings, and discuss the broader implications for truth, comedy, and political discourse in America. The conversation also touches on the evolution of late-night humor, the rise of alternative media, and the challenges of navigating cancel culture. Plus, enjoy candid moments, personal stories, and predictions about the future of media, AI, and global politics. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] was Kimmel himself hinting in a 2024 LA Times interview. I think this is my final contract.That seems like enough Jimmy Kimmel was saying. His contract wasn't gonna be renewed. when Alex Jones gets fired for Sandy Hook very few mainstream conservative commentators we're like, oh, they're silencing free speech the Tonight Show was Conan O'Brien was canceled at around 1.4. So at higher ratings than his show was canceled.The American Hall Show was canceled at 1.6. Again, much higher than his show when it was canceled,Simone Collins: your depiction of this as the network taking an opportunity to. Less expensively end a contract that was going to end inevitably.Makes a lot of sense.Malcolm Collins: why does the left even think they have a right to be mad about this?Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. A lot of people have been talking about free speech in regards to [00:01:00] Jimmy Kimmel having his show canceled after.I will note it wasn't that he disparaged somebody, he just lied. Like what he said wasn't even like a normal lie. It was like the antithesis of what is true. I'll play the clip right here for people who aren't familiar with it. Before we go furtherSpeaker: The MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.Malcolm Collins: the gist is, is he insinuated that the shooter who killed, charlie Kirk was a Republican, was like a MAGA guy. Like Yeah.Simone Collins: He used the term MAGA orMalcolm Collins: Right. Republican. And that, that's funny because, you know, MAGA is killing MAGA and they don't realize it or won't talk about it. Well, thatSimone Collins: MAGA is trying to pin it on their political opposition and he's basically saying they're shooting their own.Isn't that? Yeah. Which is,Malcolm Collins: I mean, it's, [00:02:00] it's, it's not like a, like he may not have been aware of the evidence or something like this. This is one of the things that is just patently not true. And part of this whole conversation is before I get into he wasn't canceled for the reasons that people are saying, first of all, and I'm gonna go into the data on this, that'll be the first thing we go into.But the, the other thing that's really important to note here is, and, and go into is why does the left even think they have a right to be mad about this? Like his role. Was as a newscaster comedian which is basically our role as well, except he's working for a major station, like a private company, right.He says something in his role as a newscaster comedian, which was the antithesis of true, which was literally made to get people to believe the opposite of what was true on a very sensitive topic, which is obviously like going viral and doing the rounds. And [00:03:00] so the company that hired him, fired him.Simone Collins: Well, the show suspended, right?I Is he fired? I don't think he's fired. ItMalcolm Collins: doesn't, it doesn't matter. The point being is that you should be fired if you are a newscaster for saying something about like a, a mainstream important topic that's just factually untrue. AndSimone Collins: to be fair, there is a. There are many examples of journalists, reporters, et cetera, who have been suspended or fired for reporting inaccuracies.This is Sure.Malcolm Collins: A, a great example, when Alex Jones gets fired for saying Sandy Hook is fake very few mainstream conservative commentators we're like, oh, they're silencing free speech or anything like that.You know, very few. We, we certainly have never argued that Alex Jones shouldn't have faced a lawsuit for that or faced being pulled from air for that. That was something that was factually untrue and very easy to check that it was [00:04:00] factually untrue. Yeah. In fact. In many ways, I think what Alex Jones did was less bad than what, what Jimmy Kimmel did.Why? 'cause at least Alex Jones engaged with the argument and tried to explain why he believed it was fake, whereas Jimmy Kimmel just stated something that was patently false about something that assert asSpeaker 4: sculpted.Malcolm Collins: No. I'll note here. The way that what Alex Jones did was worse than what Jimmy Kimmel did is he turned the regular civilians who had lost their loved ones into victims.Whereas Jimmy Kimmel did not do that. Yeah. But I mean, I'm talking about just in terms of somebody whose job is telling news, said something and that they knew was wrong. And, and if you can be like, oh, Alex Jones didn't know this. We know from the court documents that Alex Jones didn't believe this.Like there's been internal leaks. And there are alsoSimone Collins: just general other even political kind of related falsehoods that people have been. We'll say like suspended or censored in some way. Like some Fox News presenters promoted false claims about the 2020 US [00:05:00] election and Dominion voting systems. And they, that, that led to lawsuits and, and other things.And were they fired? Some, some of them were suspended, some were not. But that's another example of them. A a bunch of people have been pulled for just other nonpolitical inaccuracies. Like Brian Williams, he was a really big person for NBC Nightly News in 2015 was suspended, and later his anchor was just totally removed after he exaggerated stories about being under fire during the Iraq war.So that was just telling a lie about himself. So there, there are lots of people who have been suspended for things people have been suspended for false Michael Flynn reports false Kobe Bryant reporting.You know, when he, he, when he was killed Matt Guttman of a BC news was suspended for saying that all of the kids died in the plane crash when it was just his daughter. So even just like little, little things. And, and some,Malcolm Collins: it's, the point is, is it is normal to fire a newscaster [00:06:00] for lying, for plagiarism,Simone Collins: for ethics issues, for lying, for inaccurate reporting, like all of these things.Malcolm Collins: Why is it, I think the bigger story here is why is it that progressives think that this is a bad thing? Like, oh, andSimone Collins: don't forget all the COVID stuff. Sorry, I just wanted to point that out. When, when people were seen as, as, as reporting misleadingly on COVID stuff, they got fired and suspended all the time.Malcolm Collins: But the, the question here I'm saying is why do they think that they can say, we are canceling free speech when some, a newscaster is being fired for lying. Like, why do they think that this is something that somebody shouldn't be fired for? Why do they think that they have a position to throw a stink here?And I think that this actually tells us more about the current progressive mindset and philosophy than the, the anything else around this. But before I go further, I wanna go into why he was actually fired because this is suspended. People on the right have talked about this, but they really haven't gone into the data.And I think when you go into the data, you're just like, this is a completely silly situation to be up in [00:07:00] arms about. Okay. So in August 26th, 2025, Yahoo Entertainment. So this is before he said this, this is before the Trump stuff AR article reported insider speculation tied to shifting late night landscape.Post Stephen Colbert's cancellation announcement, A key quote, quote, Jimmy is determined to quit late night before he's axed, quote, confides insider. The context highlights that he was planning to be fired that year. Jimmy Kimmel thought before this that he was going to be fired this year. What happened?Let's keep going. A July 23rd, 2025 people magazine's piece discussed Trump's claims that Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon would soon be ousted analyzing their contracts. It noted Kimmel's deal expires at the end of 2025 to 2026. Season was Kimmel himself hinting in a 2024 LA Times interview. I think this is my final contract.That seems like enough Jimmy [00:08:00] Kimmel was saying. His contract wasn't gonna be renewed. Now, what's important to note about these contracts, and we'll get into this a little bit more later, is most of them have a clause that if the person embarrasses the company publicly, they can cancel the contract without having to pay a firing fee.But if they don't, then they have to pay out a bunch of money.Simone Collins: Oh, okay. There's a very clear economic reason for why things happened the way they happened.Malcolm Collins: Yes. Let's keep going here. Oh, cha-ching. July 24th, 2025 coming soon.net guide explored why fans and sources believed the show was going to be canceled.So there's, there's articles out there analyzing why everyone thought he was gonna be canceled and they say, quote, the word is, and it's a strong word at that Jimmy Kimmel is next to go at late night sweepstakes in quote. And this was a Trump quote by the way that they were quoting. So he, he knew what was up.But now I wanna talk ratings because we're gonna do a quick comparison of this show's ratings, and I'll put on screen here, the falling ratings of not just [00:09:00] this show, but across late night tv. So you can give an idea of jus

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Join Malcolm and Simone Collins as they dive deep into the recent political upheaval in Nepal, exploring the Gen Z-led protests, government crackdowns, and the broader implications for global politics. Discover how social media bans, corruption, and generational divides are shaping the future—not just in Nepal, but around the world. The conversation also touches on the concept of "Nepo babies," the role of social media in activism, and what these events might signal for other countries facing similar challenges. Stay tuned for insightful analysis, personal stories, and a touch of humor as Malcolm and Simone break down complex issues in an accessible way. Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we're gonna be discussing going on of Nepal because with all of the political stuff that's happening in the United States right now, I think we've sort of been like broadly aware, like they had like a revolution or something in Nepal, right?Speaker 2: Nepal is seeing an uprising led not by political veterans, but by Gen Z.Malcolm Collins: Like what happened with that and what you're gonna be surprised about. Is how relevant what happened in Nepal is to, what's going to happen in most of the developed world as things continued on the pathway they're going now.Speaker 2: Teenagers and young adults are flooding the streets, furious over us. Sweeping government ban on their digital lifelinesLast week. Authorities abruptly cut access to major platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.Simone Collins: Well, and this is after what was happening in Indonesia, and this is also like, as there are huge protests in the uk we're seeing there's unrest is the thing now.Malcolm Collins: Well, yeah. Unrest is the thing and in many cases it's for similar reasons. Mm-hmm. And so let's, let's go in what get, get your butt educated people. Why don't you know about what, maybe you do know about what's going on in the fall, but it's, it's interesting nonetheless. So, police crack down on September 8th, security forces fired.Live ammunition. Live ammunition. So we're talking about like how bad things are getting firing live ammunition, tear gas and water cannons and rubber billets into crowds in your parliament. So. Opening fire into a crowd. Okay. They killed 19 people and injured 200 people.Simone Collins: And this was largely young students, wasn't it?I think it was also a lot of young people, students like who wereMalcolm Collins: killed. Yeah. And there's videos of graphic scenes, including children who were shot in the head. Sparking nationwide outrage and curfews. So this was extreme, and if you're like, well, when do we get this in the us when does the uk You saw this Million Man March on London that mm-hmm.That, you know, anyone who watched the videos can tell was giant. Like they're trying to report it like a hundred thousand people, and it's clearly. Oh. The UK is pissed. It's gotten way more pissed since, since you know, we talk about it being under occupation 'cause we're like, you know, what kind of country bans the flying of their own flags.A country that's currently under occupation. That's the only time you would do that. Yeah. A government would never be afraid of their own flag unless that wasn't who was represented by it anymore.Simone Collins: Exactly. SoMalcolm Collins: when do they open fire on a crowd in London or Germany or Berlin, you know? Or, or, or France.I think it'll happen eventually.Simone Collins: I mean, it helps that police officers in the UK don't have guns. They just have their little batons.Malcolm Collins: Yes. Be beaten Was their fabulous batons. TheSimone Collins: fabulous batons.. Aren't you afraid the fashion police will come and beat you with their fabulous batons? No.Malcolm Collins: Anyway so, protestors, this is September and ninth stormed and set fire to the Parliament, the Supreme Court, which burnt down the Prime Minister's office.Cigna Debar administrative complex and politicians private homes. Private properties like the Hilton and Hyatt hotels along with media houses. EG Kenton per publications were torched. Oh goodness. One tragic incident. It evolved The burning alive of the former P'S wife.Simone Collins: Oh my gosh.Malcolm Collins: So we're talking quite a bit of violence here.Simone Collins: Carnage on both sides.Malcolm Collins: Jail breaks and further clashes. September 9th and 10th mobs broke into prisons in the Western districts, freeing over 12,500 inmates, including politician, rabbi Lament mentioned. I mean,Simone Collins: one imagines the prisons just cracked open from the inside being that over stuffed. My God.Malcolm Collins: The Army was deployed with shoot on site. Instructions assaults on officials, and there's a video of this that I saw. It was just wild. The deputy PM and finance minister was beaten by protestors and you see him like trying to walk, run away and being like attacked by people as he tries to run.Speaker: In the video that has gone viral Minister POAL 65 is seen running through the streets in Cat Mandu with the crowd of people chasing him. One of the protestors is seen kicking Poal, who is also the country's deputy prime minister. Other protestors get hold of him as he seeks to escape through the river.Malcolm Collins: Other politicians, residents were vandalized, heightening chaos before the army restored order. So what instigated this? Are you aware of what instigated this Simone?Simone Collins: I thought it was anger about widespread corruption, but IMalcolm Collins: No, no, no. That is what they moved to afterwards, but what actually instigated it was.The government tried to heavily regulate social media to prevent anything negative about the government from being shown on social media.Simone Collins: Oh, boy.Malcolm Collins: Everybody now the ukSimone Collins: UK did it. Right? You know, they did a whole like, boil the frog. Where it sounds like Nepal just, you, you, you can't, you can't just crack down all at once.Well,Malcolm Collins: no, they, they've been doing this for a while. They had under the former king just complete control by the state of of. Media. So this is more like they had a period of more liberal media a lot of, oh, but you can't closeSimone Collins: Pandora's Box. The, the internet is. If anything ever was a lotMalcolm Collins: of corruption in the media, a lot of hiding stuff, which we'll go over.But the internet made it impossible. And so the government was trying to find a way to take control of that. And this is why you know, I always say anyone on the right who says we should be banning pornography. I, I really look at them with skepticism as a left wing infiltrator becauseyou can't ban pornography without banning VPNs. And when you ban VPNs, you ban, you give the government total control of what people can see within your co country. Mm-hmm. Because then the government gets to decide, de decide what's vulgar. Right. You don't get to decide what's vulgar. Totally. The government gets to decide what's vulgar and when the government changes, you lose control.Right. They'll say. Well, you know, okay,Simone Collins: not vol, vulgar is a bad word. Forbidden. Because vulgar is basically just saying common or low class.Malcolm Collins: Well, that's what I mean, because they'll say, well, you know, you, you banned this stuff because it could lead to, they'll say, well, you banned this type of pornography because it could lead to violence.Or because it could lead to like social ills. Mm-hmm. Why shouldn't we ban racism? We define racism, by the way, why shouldn't we ban transphobia? We define transphobia, by the way, because those things also lead to social ills. And are vulgar and bad.Simone Collins: No, no, no. V the vulgar is not the word that violent or damaging or dangerous, those words,Malcolm Collins: whatever.This is what we've seen in every country that goes down this pathway.Simone Collins: Okay?Malcolm Collins: It's, it's a very bad thing to, to play around with, okay? Mm-hmm. Not, not, not a fun potato there, let.Simone Collins: I'm just sorry, the, the word vulgar. Like it's vulgar to eat a roll by just taking a bite out of it instead of taking a piece and putting it in your mouth after buttering it.Right? Like vulgar is a word about class. It's not about government control and safety. Okay, Mike,Malcolm Collins: you are a Nazi, a grammar Nazi.Simone Collins: I am. Deal with it.Malcolm Collins: Social media use in Nepal is widespread analysis from digital advisory form. Kops found that there were 14.3 million active social media identities in Nepal at the start of 2025.If each user were a distinct person, that would account for about half of the country's population. But many social media platforms have reportedly repeatedly rejected directives from DePaul government to register with the country's ministry of communication and information. Hmm. On September 29th, last year, the Nepalese Supreme Court ordered all social media platforms in Nepal to register before operating so authorities could monitor undesirable content, which is.Woo. You know, you're, you're getting into some problems when they're using those sorts of broad words. Seriously. With the text of the court verdict made public last month to comply with the order. The ministry issued public notice to social media platforms on August 28th. Giving them seven days to register.If they didn't, they would be deactivated in the country. Hmm. Some companies like TikTok and Message Platform, Viber did register before the deadline. TikTok had previously been banned to quote unquote protect social harmony, but the ban was lifted after the company agreed to coordinate with law enforcement to address crimes related to the platform.Hmm. But others repeatedly continued to ignore the order. So when the deadline passed, the government banned 26 social media platforms, including. Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram, and Google owned platforms lik

In this episode of Based Camp, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into the political and cultural controversies surrounding JD Vance, left-wing and right-wing extremism, and the recent events that have the media and political world buzzing. They analyze the New York Times coverage, discuss the rise of armed activist groups, and break down the statistics and narratives around violence, identity, and free speech in America. Expect a thought-provoking conversation with data, personal insights, and a critical look at the narratives shaping our society. [00:00:00]Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today.Today I woke up and I checked my WhatsApp and what did I see? But my, grad school class worrying about a New York Times piece that we're gonna go over. Ooh. Because the New York Times, they're freaking out. ' cause JD Vance has come out and a number of top Trump aide have come out and are like, we need to begin to crack down through law enforcement on far left terrorist organizations.Simone Collins: Oh man, they, they kicked me out. Soon they kickedMalcolm Collins: you out. Yeah, because they, they found out that we were in the New York Times and, and said some, I don't know, whatever thing. But anyway, they, they're very spicy. They yell at me occasionally in this thread. Crazy. But the left is like actually quaking in their boots right now because what we are seeing is finally, and I don't know why the administration did do this earlier they are using the Charlie Kirk assassination as a cover for saying we actually need to deal with left wing terrorism and left wing people are like, oh, no.[00:01:00]We defined what was thought crimes before they get to define it. Now, this is no good. And, and when your enemy is afraid you know, that's when you know you're in the right direction.Speaker 3: What's it thinking, Colonel?Speaker 4: It's afraid. It's afraid!Malcolm Collins: I knew you were gonnaSimone Collins: do that. Of course you were. Of course.Yes. Every damn time.Malcolm Collins: But I wanna go over a few things with this. I wanna go over what they're saying because I think taking time to understand your enemy you know, you can only you can only beat the bug if you can understand the bug, right?Speaker 8: Will thE Brain Bug reveal? Federal scientists are working around the clock to probe its secrets. Once we understand the bug, we will defeat it.Malcolm Collins: Well, that's alsoSimone Collins: why the bugs slurped out humans', brains.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, no, [00:02:00] they're the, this is why they the, the, the, the bug men are doing a 20, what was it, like, a $50 million study to try to figure out what young men think. And everybody remembers this because it went viral and we never did a piece on it. But I should probably see what, what, what results they came to from all that money they spent on how to reach young men.I agree with the,Speaker 2: All right, so let me go through some of our positions and you stop me where you feel uncomfortable. A higher minimum wage healthcare reform.The ball kicking machine, right? Social safety nets. Wait, could you repeat that last one? Sure. Social safety nets before that. Hmm. Oh, the ball kicking machine. I don't like the ball kicking machine. Not a fan either. Yeah. I don't like that at all. Oh, the machine we want in your house to kick your balls all the time.Yes.Speaker: No, that can't be [00:03:00] it.Speaker 2: Okay, so what does our $20 million study show?Speaker: The machine needs more boats.Malcolm Collins: , that that's about what the people came to. But they, they try it on us too, right? Like it's important to, to understand what's going on, but I also want to take time to explore what types of groups they're talking about here, because the left pretends like.There's no radical leftist attack groups out there right now, even though, you know, we just had literally the the trans murder cult with Z Zans that we covered in a recent episode. We had the, the mass shooting. Recently we had the at a school we had the Charlie Kirk deaths, which, if you watched our previous episode, we point out that seems like half a dozen people in the Utah trans community were aware that this was gonna happenBy the way, another I told you so here, so in the first video on the Charlie Kirk assassination, I said, I bet the assassin hasties to the trans community. Everyone is like, when the guy was first caught, they were like, [00:04:00] Malcolm, you see, you got ahead on your skis on this one. You were totally wrong.And then it turns out it's your, or. Recent episode on this that, you know, half a dozen members of the trans community and no one else was aware of the day the assassination was going to take place, and that the guy who did the assassination was dating a trans person. And then in that video I made the second controversial claim that while I was right in my first claim, due to all the people who were aware that this was going to happen beforehand.I was going to take the position that I do not think the person's girlfriend slash boyfriend because they were dating before they started transitioning. So that's not like an offensive thing to say that they didn't know about this and were not involved in this. And then this claim got me a bunch of, he.You know, heat in that video. 'cause people are like, oh, Malcolm, you're being naive, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, since then, the text that the person had with their so have been released and, well, obviously it's not conclusive. This could have been faked. These texts do [00:05:00] not come off as, to, to me, they come off , as pretty firm confirmation that the so did not know this was going to happen.So to just go over them Robinson, drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard. And then the note that he had under his keyboard read. I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. And then the roommate responded, what? With a bunch of question marks. You're joking, right?A bunch of question marks. And then Robinson says, I am still okay my love, but I am stuck in Orum for a little while longer. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you. Partner, you weren't the one who did it.Right. Bunch of question marks Robinson. I am. I'm sorry. Partner. I thought they caught the person. Robinson. No. They grabbed some crazy old dude that interrogated someone in a similar closing. I had [00:06:00] planned to grab my rifle from the drop point shortly after, but most of that site of town got locked down.It's quiet almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering partner. Why? Robinson, why did I do it? SO. Yeah. Robinson, I had enough of his hatred. Some of the hate can be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle and seen, I will have left no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again.Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it. So how long have you been planning this? Robinson, and this is the one thing that makes me doubt this conversation 'cause it's obvious from the number of people who knew about it and when they cited it, that he had been planning this for two months.But he plans a bit over a week. I believe I can get close to it. But there was a squad card parked by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don't want to chance it. My read here is that he's just [00:07:00] lying, I guess, about how long he had been planning it. Or he is misremembering because he didn't really care that much, like he might have.Fantasized about it for longer and talked to people, and that's how they knew about the date and then only seriously started planning it for a couple weeks. But anyway Robinson, I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got in my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I brought it back to grandpa's rifle.I don't know if I had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me. I worry about prints. I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. I didn't have the ability or time to bring it. Whiz. I might have to abandon it and hope they don't find the prints. How the F would I explain losing it to my old man?The only thing I left. Was the rifle wrapped in a towel? Remember how I was engraving bullets? The effing messages are mostly a big meme. If I see notices, bulge, ooo on Fox News, I might have a [00:08:00] stroke. Alright, I'm going to have to leave it. That really effing sucks. Judging from today, I'd say grandpa's gun goes just fine.I don't know. I think that with a 2K scope, and then Robinson. My dad wants photos of the rifle. He says Grandpa wants to know who, who was, has what. The feds released a photo of the rifle and it's very unique. He's calling me right now and not answering Robinson. Since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty diehard.MAGA Robinson. I'm gonna turn myself in willingly. One of the neighbors here is the Deputy Shella. Sheriff Robinson, you are all, I worry about my love. Robinson. I'm much more worried about you Robinson. Don't talk to the media. Please don't take any interviews or make any comments. If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent.Now note, all of these were happening in real time as he was being caught, so this doesn't seem like something he set up beforehand. If he'd set it up beforehand, I think the him being caught and the [00:09:00] sloppiness on that front wouldn't be included. In this whole thing meant to exonerate his partner.Malcolm Collins: and you're beginning to get this and, no, I wanna point out, you're referring toSimone Collins: the mass shooting at the Catholic church, not the Colorado mass shooting, which took place, like at Yeah, but he didn'tMalcolm Collins: shoot anyone.He, he failed.Simone Collins: Well, he didn't kill anyone. He did critically injure two girls. Oh, o

Join Malcolm and Simone Collins as they dive deep into the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination. This episode explores the online and real-world communities connected to the event, the reactions from various groups, and the broader cultural and political implications. The discussion covers radicalization, the role of online subcultures, media narratives, and the impact on public discourse. Thought-provoking and unfiltered, this conversation challenges mainstream perspectives and encourages critical thinking about current events. Malcolm Collins: So, in a A Steam group that was titled, read This If You're Gay, which is like, for like memes and stuff.Simone Collins: Oh was, so is that what that one bullet engraving was? If you're reading this, you are gay.Malcolm Collins: Oh yeah, heSimone Collins: mentioned the steam group in the bullet. I hadn't even noticed that. Yeah, if you're reading this, you are gay, Lowell, something like that.Malcolm Collins: They're described a radical, far left trans individualposted quote, you guys, I have something big, big in all caps coming soon. Just be sure to check the news. You'll know it when you see it in quote, oh gosh. Immediately after the shooting they quote tweeted that other quote saying something big's about to happen, saying, well, that's that. So, was Sky Valez? Trans as well. , Released a song a few months before this titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31. And then they released a song titled Charlie Kirk's Death Isn't Enough for MeWe'll be going over the individual who said September 10th is gonna be a very interesting day. And then I plead the fifth. The person who said, Charlie Kirk doesn't know what's going to happen tomorrow. , The person who said, wouldn't it be funny if someone shot Charlie Kirk on September 10th?If it is true that a large number of trans individuals were aware of this attack before it happened, that's something we need to introduce into the public conversation, this wouldn't be the first trans murder cult that we've talked about on this show. Look at the Ians. But if trans murderer cults are becoming a thing, that's something we need to be talking about. I.would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today, today. We are going to be talking about a number of things related to the Charlie Kirk assassination.I'm not excited about the assassination. I already had the day where I said, I'm not excited to be here with you today 'cause we were talking about that specifically. And that's not what we're talking about today. Today we're gonna talk about a few areas. One, we are going to be talking about a couple convergent phenomenons that are worse unpacking, which is the huge array of people who, with their public accounts are going out and saying.I am glad that this happened. I am glad that this person was killed because of their, you know, very, if you look at his actual beliefs instead of like the random out of context quotes that you'll get from leftists, he's just boomer conservative. He's, he is not new, right. But he is very generic boomer conservative.And these people are saying, no. I,Simone Collins: I would say he's even, even more open than that. Or maybe hippie boomer conservative. Yeah. HippieMalcolm Collins: boomer, conservative. Yeah. He is, if, if you're like, I think people with those beliefs should be. Killed because that's what you're sayingSimone Collins: then youMalcolm Collins: thinkSimone Collins: most centrists inMalcolm Collins: AmericaSimone Collins: or Christians should beMalcolm Collins: killed, basically.Yeah. And the number of people, like, we're gonna go over a number of teachers who have done this, the number of people who make video games and like run studios. We're gonna go over people in the medical field who have done this. You're, you're, and. Two things are interesting. One is that, that they feel that it's okay to say something like, I think mainstream conservatives should be killed without realizing that that's what they're, I mean, because they've been convinced that mainstream conservatives are extremists when they hold positions that most Americans have hold for the past 50 years.Yeah. You know, they won. Feel safe going out and doing this Right. And, and by the way, if you wanna do something about this, don't complain to hr. And Asma Gold said, don't go to the top of your, your company go to OSHA and say you don't feel safe, because then the government has to do something.I loveSimone Collins: that advice. Yeah.Malcolm Collins: And the CEO. Is very likely to respond if a company is getting a lot of OSHA complaints and it can be done anonymously. So you just say, this person is saying that they want to kill mainstream conservatives. Right? Or they think this is a good thing, right?Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.Malcolm Collins: And I don't feel safe in this environment.And, and that will, but the other thing that's interesting is that people are even addressing this. Like people are responding to this. Like, you, it, it, it feels like these people wouldn't have been fired. Three years ago or something like that. So we are absolutely now seeing a shift. Like, it's like, oh, well this is just like you guys, where you said you know, trans people are, are, are not a disenfranchised group, and in fact are a group in power because they are a group you are not allowed to criticize or you could be fired.Like if you misgender them, you could be fired. And I'm like. There's a big difference for being fired for misgendering somebody and celebrating that somebody was shot in front of their children and saying that that should happen again in the future. Yeah. Like those are two categories of, one is being mildly inconvenienced and the other is demanding genocide.Simone Collins: Well, and egging on a complete degradation or, or. And to public civility and, and safety in order and law following. But, but I also wannaMalcolm Collins: point out here, and this is also really important, is the people who are like, well, then you should just never say that anyone, no matter what they're doing, should be punished in a way that is outside of the legal system, like you are just out against extra judicial killings.I'm absolutely not, because I think if we look at where society is going right now, eventually we may need to. Rise up, right? Like, we may need to fight against this system if it becomes too dictatorial, if it becomes too controlling, that may happen within our lifetimes, and that involves extra judicial killings, right?So these people who think that they've just found this safe position of, oh, well, just never, ever, ever rise up, just never, ever, ever revolt, well then what happens? Right. Like you, you need to be like, no. The problem is not the extra judicial killing thing, it's the extra judicial killing for like mainstream normal beliefs.That is, that is psychotic, especially beliefs that aren't really hurting anyone. Mm-hmm. And we can get to, we got to that in the last episode. Well, people will be like, oh, we had all these beliefs that hurt people. No we didn't. It's very boomer conservative stuff. But anyway another thing I wanna get to, which is what we're gonna start with here, because I found this really fascinating, is in the last episode.I made the prediction that I suspected this person was going to be trans or have ties to the trans community, right? Like this lighter sort of trans community thing comes out. Who this guy is, everyone is saying Malcolm, you mis called it like, I don't like that you get ahead of your skis on this stuff.And I'm like, no, no, no. You have to get ahead of your skis if you have a worldview. Right. And this worldview cannot predict future events, right? Like it's a non predictive worldview. It cannot give you insight into why a country is doing something or what a country is gonna do next, or what a movement is going to do next, or what type of person is gonna do x.You do not have a useful worldview like that. That worldview remains untested. And so I made a prediction that, one, a group, a very rare group in the us, it makes up like 1.5% of the US population was gonna be involved in this. Since the shooting has happened, some very interesting things have happened and, and people have done more researching.Obviously the big one is, but I actually think that this might be less important, is that the, this, this, this person's, the person who they were in a relationship with and were living with turned out to be a trans person.Simone Collins: So do we, do we have proof that they're in a relationship? Yes.Malcolm Collins: The police have confirmed they were in a relationship.Simone Collins: Whoa.Malcolm Collins: So this isn't like random speculation anymore. This is, I think it was like the governor of Utah specifically confirmed this. So we'll get to that. I actually think that that person. So a lot of people have kept trying to be like, oh, here's this trans person online that seemed to have knowledge of the shooting before it happened.This is this person's partner, romantic partner account. And then as we dig deeper, it turns out no, they were actually a different trans person and not this person's partner. Oh. So what we are finding is it. Peers that there were, in addition to this person's partners, three trans individuals and, and no one who wasn't a trans individual who knew about this shooting before it happened.And a lot of, I thought a lotSimone Collins: of people were saying because the roommate alleged partner was complicit in turning in.Malcolm Collins: The roommate was not complicit. Tyler Robinson, the dad turned them in, but the roommate has helped give information to police and has been very cooperative with police. So my actual wider read that I can give a skip to ahead of times is I think that the person's girlfriend slash boyfriend, because they started dating before they were transitioning, and now they're transit

In this episode, Malcolm and Simone dive deep into the surprising marriage trends in China, exploring why so many men are opting out of marriage despite a surplus of single women. From cultural expectations to economic pressures and social shifts, we break down the data, stories, and theories behind this demographic puzzle. RFab is mostly working: https://rfab.ai/We just started a Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/SimoneAndMalcolmCollinsDiscord: https://discord.com/invite/EGFRjwwS92The School: https://parrhesia.io/student-signupApp to talk with kids: https://wizling.ai/Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be discussing marriage in China, which has a very interesting phenomenon in which women, now everybody knows for a long time. You know, the China, because of the one child policy. People didn't want girls because they couldn't carry, carry on the family name.They couldn't, you know, take care of you as easily when they're older, et cetera. And so they would find ways to have boys which meant there was a huge extra amount of boys in China.Simone Collins: Right, right.Malcolm Collins: So you would think the demographic that is having trouble finding a partner is boys. Right. That would be my assumption.Simone Collins: Right.Malcolm Collins: So I'll go over how bad things actually are in the opposite direction. We will then get into the common explanations people have, why I don't think they're good, and what a good explanation is.Simone Collins: Ooh. SoMalcolm Collins: at an event in 2025, this was a Shanghai matchmaking event, [00:01:00] a mass matchmaking of it in Shanghai had nearly 1000 women who paid a 601 entry fee to attend, but fewer than 50 men showed up. Ouch. 600 women to 50 men organizing. It just seems like aSimone Collins: bad marketing thing though, don't you think? No,Malcolm Collins: No, because you'll see that this happens a lot. Organizers noted that when a single man did appear, he was swarmed like a minor celebrity with women rushing to compete for his attention.In some cities, similar events have reported zero male attendees, despite hundreds of women waiting. Gosh,Speaker: In Shanghai, there are plenty of unmarried women coming to my matchmaking events, but hardly any unmarried men nowadays, it seems that for every one Shanghai men, there are several or even over a dozen women competing, and the women are really desperate. It's not that they don't want a partner. If there are no men, how can they find one?So now whenever one man shows up, everyone rushes for him. This has been going on for a long time. A few months [00:02:00] ago, Shanghai held a rather special matchmaking event with an interesting rule. Every woman had to pay 600 UN while men could attend for free, the women expected a flood of male participants, but to everyone's surprise, nearly a thousand women showed up while fewer than 50 men participated.Malcolm Collins: the Gong Zg singles fair in 2024, a government sponsored single fair in Gozo had over 8,000 women registered, but only 40 men attend, resulting to a 20 to one female to male ratio.Simone Collins: What is going on, especially considering the populationMalcolm Collins: skew?Yeah, the, the, the 20 to 25 assault women lining up. To meet the few men present was organizers noting that the men were quote unquote overwhelmed and left due to the intense attention. I can't take all these women done, women get away. MySimone Collins: God,it's raiding women.Malcolm Collins: In the Chong J Blind date market this was in 2023.[00:03:00] Okay.In Chong j, a park based matchmaking event organized by parents saw a significant gender imbalance with, of the 158 profiles posted, 70% were for women. My Lord, in Beijing's Valentine's Day event, 2024, a Valentine's Day matchmaking event in Beijing, organized by a local marriage agency, drew 600 women, but 25 men, making it a 24 to one ratio.Now. Here you might be saying, well, it's because men don't wanna get married anymore in China. So we're gonna go over two polls, right? Okay. One poll done by the 2021 Communist Youth League survey found that 44 percent of Chinese women do not plan to marry, but only 25% of men plan to not marry. So actually men want to get married in almost double the rate of women.And another poll showed that around 75 to 80% of. Urban women under 30, oh. This one showed women slightly higher. Okay. Plan to get married. 30 to 60 to 70% of men.Simone Collins: Okay.Malcolm Collins: So in some polls you see it, but it [00:04:00] seems that it's either around the same or men dramatically more than women want to get married.Sure. So what the f is going on here, right? Yeah. And to give you an idea of how important this is demographically speaking, because people don't realize how modern this phenomenon is and how quickly things are are dropping. Mm-hmm. So in 2024, the number of registered marriages in China hit a record low.Since records began in 1980, falling to 6.1 million couples a. 20% drop from 2023. Oh. So 2023 to 2024 is a 20.5% drop. And it's already in 2024 at less than half the number of marriages that there were in 2013.Simone Collins: What is happening,Malcolm Collins: number decrease. And if, and if we go sort of year by year to show how quickly this is dropping.Between 2023 and 2024, you had a 20.5% drop. Then by, what was it? H 1 1 20 24. The first half you had another 12.7% drop. Then in the second half there, there's anSimone Collins: acceleration taking [00:05:00] place. 'cause I just figured everyone is thinking this too. So I'm just gonna say it. Oh well because for men in China, it's too expensive to get married.But no, something new is happening. This is new. Yeah. It doesn't reallyMalcolm Collins: explain it, so. Yeah. Yeah.I can, I can go and we'll read into some of the explanations, but the first thing that everyone always says is, well, in China there's this huge stigma against women who are too old. Right. Or women who are, you know, women are supposed to get married young.Yeah. What are they called? Leftover women. Career oriented. Yeah. Yes. It's leftover woman trope, and it's like. Even if this stigma were true, okay, the high valued men would secure because like. Sleeping around culture in China and stuff like that, like the problems we have in the us this isn't really that common in China.To give you an idea of what I mean when I say it's rare for women in China to sleep around, , one study showed that in China, , for women ages 20 to 44 only, , 6.5% reported two or more lifetime partners, [00:06:00] sexual partners. That is.Malcolm Collins: Right. Like the, it's, it's not common to just like date around and sleep around and, you know, the Chad roller coaster whatever thing, right? With the Chad carousel? The cock carousel? No, it's the cock carousel that, that's not, that's not what's happening in China. Oh. So what would happen, right, if, if the problem was, is that men just had a preference for, you know, younger women.The men who were able to secure the younger women, like the women who were actually sane enough to secure their partner while they were still young, would be securing these women. But then the other men, it's not like they disappear. For every woman not marrying more than one man isn't marrying because there's more men than women in China due to the reasons we talked about before.So the men who were left over would, would it still sort of trickle sort to these lower value older women mm-hmm. Rather than be alone, but they are choosing to be alone and then people can be like, oh, well it's that, and we'll talk about this.'cause e economics does play a role. There's like, there's a lot of economic expectations on men to get married in China, like having a house paying bride price, et [00:07:00] cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. And it's like. Yeah. Except the problem isn't that women are being too snooty around these men. Right. It's not If they'reSimone Collins: swarming them at these news Yeah.ThatMalcolm Collins: the men aren't showing up in the first place.Simone Collins: Oh, they're going, he gig, go worry.Malcolm Collins: Well, no, I mean, they're, they're just not showing up to the dating events at least. Right. Okay. So yeah. But like in generalSimone Collins: too, ifMalcolm Collins: they were there, like even if they were a lower valued man, presumably they'd have an arbitrage opportunity.Simone Collins: Yeah, totally.Malcolm Collins: So to continue here so, and, and to the surplus of men, they have about 30 to 35 million extra men of marrying age.Simone Collins: So what's, whoa, what is going on? Let's,Malcolm Collins: let's go over some wrong theories. Okay. But that I think are interesting and worth throwing out there and talking through.Simone Collins: Alright.Malcolm Collins: Chinese marriage follow strict hyper gmy marrying up in status, but it's asymmetric. Women are expected to marry up in income education while men avoid marrying down to women who out earn or out [00:08:00] educate them. Urban women empowered by education and careers now demand partners who match or exceed their status, eg.College educated women want a man with a house car and stable job, but urban men often reject these quote unquote, strong women as unfeminine or threatening to traditional roles, preferring younger, less I ambitious partners.Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: A 2019 study journal of Comparative Economics modeled this is Equilibrium Crowding Out High Status Women's Pickiness plus Men's aversion to status equals.Leads to 20 to 30% lower marriage rates for college grads versus less educated women. In survey, 70% of urban women said they'd prefer a wife earning less than them versus only 40% of women. Okay. With earning less.Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Basically what you're getting here is, is just pointing out that men prefer a woman who earns less than them.Right. And yeah, whichSimone Collin

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In this episode of Based Camp, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into how Europe is rendering itself obsolete in the age of AI. They discuss the shift from SEO to AI-driven influence, the impact of privacy laws like GDPR, and how these changes are erasing European culture from the digital future. The conversation covers the collapse of traditional power networks, the importance of building a unique online footprint, and the new rules for reputation and employment in a post-AI world. Plus, they share personal stories, debate the pros and cons of privacy, and explore the future of secret societies and elite networking. Episode Transcript:Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I am excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be talking about how Europe is erasing its itself and its civilization from history within the context of. AI and we are also going to talk about how AI changes the strategies that we as humans use as we relate to the world around us and ensure our own impact on the future.Speaker: We need to talk. What is that? This is a flying robot. I just shot out of the sky after it delivered a package to my house.So I destroyed the robot. No one is safe from these b******s.Malcolm Collins: Hmm. So to. Start with this second topic here. You used to be, at one point you were the director of marketing at the 45th Most Traffick website in the United States. Yeah. And it's the website where people go and write it was hub Pages is what it was called.Simone Collins: Yeah. And then it was, I think it sort of became.A different [00:01:00] brand over time, but yeah, it it, what was theMalcolm Collins: other brand that bought it? Squidoo.Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, no, it acquired Squidoo, I think. Okay. And then it became something they now call, you're doing something else, whatever.Malcolm Collins: At the time it was really big, right? Yeah. This meant that you were at that point in your career, one of the world experts in what is called SEO, this is search engine optimization.This is how you ensured that when people searched for things, they saw your takes. And not somebody else's tips. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, often it's involved in marketing or whatever, but it, it matters a lot. Like if we were running the prenatal list movement back then, everything we would be focused on is, how do I ensure it ranks well within SEO?How do I ensure, and these systems, you know, companies lived and died on SEO, like Google would roll over in it'd sleep and all of a sudden it's a whole new ball game. Oh,Simone Collins: it would? Yeah. All hands on deck. Emergency situation. At the business, 100%. Very stressful.Malcolm Collins: But we are [00:02:00] moving into a world where SEO is almost irrelevant.Given the way AI works and what AI picks up in terms of ideas is very different than what would've been picked up in an SEO environment.Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.Malcolm Collins: And this really changes a lot of the online game, and I've noticed a lot of people haven't realized this. There aren't relating to this in sort of a sane way yet.Hmm. There's still. Brian Chow, whose article we're going to be talking about today, he, he wrote an article called Public Intellectual Privilege about how you as a public intellectual get to have a totally different relationship with ai, which is true. I, for example, can go to an AI and say, you know, what would Simone Collins like for her birthday?And it'll give me like, great recommendations. What is it telling you ISimone Collins: want for my birthday?Malcolm Collins: Oh yeah. Well you can ask it. You can ask it while, while I'm talking. Okay. What should Malcolm get Simone for her, her birthday. Right. Okay. Yeah. And what you'll see is AI actually knows a, a, a great deal about [00:03:00] you and me.Now there are people from the last generation, like I, I recently had my dad over and I asked AI questions about him and it could find almost nothing about him. Yeah. Despite him being a fairly. Within his time, famous public individual. Mm-hmm. AndSimone Collins: yet heMalcolm Collins: expressed this as a good thing. He's like,Simone Collins: well, I don't like having things about me online.Malcolm Collins: Right. It, it reminds me a bit of, and, and one of the things we're gonna be talking about a lot in this is the, you know, self-defeating obsession with privacy that some individuals developed during the age of deep data where we saw privacy as a way to protect ourselves from large companies. But I mean, also like what do you even protecting yourself from like, getting better Amazon recommendations.Like I, I understand you can be like, well, what if my data is leaked? But like that's data that can be leaked regardless. Right? The thing is, is that between [00:04:00] the era of deep tech. Personal protection, advocacy and the era of ai, the benefits and downsides of AI knowing about you or, or, or companies knowing about you, has done a complete 180.Yeah. Whereas it used to be almost just like a strictly net negative to have a lot of information about you online. Now it's almost strictly a net positive because it means when you go and you ask AI questions. So first I'm just gonna dive into. What is SEO but for ai, how is it different? Yeah, so first you don't really care as much.'cause was like, why do you still care about getting media? And I'm like, well, because media references AI to some extent, but in a large extent, like just being in media a lot just doesn't matter that much anymore. Yeah. Because media does not. Alter what AI is going to do or say on a particular piece.What does alter what AI says or does about a thing is the volume of work that is out [00:05:00] there. I. Volume now matters much more than how much the public is engaging with a thing. The number of clicks a YouTube video has, or the number of clicks a site or document has, or link juices, it was called historically.The number of credible sources that are back linking to content does not. Very heavily determine whether an AI is going to cite that document. Hmm. What determines if an AI is going to cite a document is how well thought through it is, how long it is and how novel. It's and I have seen this because AI.Regularly, sites based camp episodes in responses when I am asking it about just like normal day-to-day things.Simone Collins: Totally unrelatedMalcolm Collins: to you. Totally unrelated to me.Simone Collins: What's an example of a, a thing that you asked about? I.Malcolm Collins: I was asking about something related to like trans stuff and an AI ended up referencing some of our episodes.I was asking about a [00:06:00] thing related to Antinatalists philosophy and it referenced some of our stuff. So it's like tangential to things that we talk about. I mean, obviously but the person could be like, wait, how are you getting your content referenced by AI when the AI doesn't know that you are the one asking the questions?Hmm. And the answer is that. We release our content long form every day and multiplicatively. That means that whenever we're releasing an episode, you're going to see a YouTube episode of it, which can be scraped by ai. But then you're also gonna have a Substack article, which some AI can scrape. And then that Substack article is also going to be podcast to a number of podcasting websites, which some ais also scrape.Hmm. So it's getting the information from multiple sources, and then with the most important episodes, like the tracks or the book series that we wrote, we actually have full plain text versions of both all [00:07:00] of the tracks and all of the books hosted as individual WebP pages marked. For AI to use on multiple websites that we host.This is why when people are like, why does AI give such good responses in response to techno puritanism and your religious beliefs? And it's because we, we structured and aggregated those religious beliefs in a way that makes it very easy for AI to grab, which is not the way traditional SEO companies think or the way a lot of traditional people think when they're engaging with this stuff.Simone Collins: Mm-hmm.Malcolm Collins: Thoughts Simone.Simone Collins: I agree. I've done a lot less of this than you have, but I also intuitively just really have a lot of gripes with people and online privacy or privacy. We get to all that next, but yeah.Malcolm Collins: Yeah,Simone Collins: so I'm, I'm excited to What did, what did, whatMalcolm Collins: did rock say about you? Like what did itSimone Collins: I wouldn't appreciate any of the gifts it recommended.I mean, some of it would, it says personalized data driven artwork work, but. [00:08:00] Come on.Malcolm Collins: I have literally given you that before and you've appreciated it. And it wouldn't have known that.Simone Collins: No, I've given that to you.Malcolm Collins: Oh, you wouldn't appreciate it if I got it for you?Simone Collins: No, I don't want it. I, I, 'cause I can make it like it's so easy for me.Why would I want that as a, what do you want?Malcolm Collins: Just food.Simone Collins: Popcorn is a big one. There's no recommendation for popcorn here. Ai. What do you know that about you or someone to clean our house. So that I don't have to for once, you know, like, just like, you know, hey, you know, I'm gonna get you like three house cleaning sessions.Well, whyMalcolm Collins: don't you show me how to clean in the way that you like, because you were like, just like physically and mentally incapable ofSimone Collins: it. Dude, it's just like, keep in mind though I think it's, it's part of a lifestyle thing. Like I grew up, when I spent time with my mom, she would clean the house.And I would hang out with her and she'd be like, this is Borax. This is what we use to scrub the tub and the sink. And like this is like, she [00:09:00] would just walk me through like, all this is cleaning materials. Do you wanna try it? And then like, okay, no, you did it wrong. Okay. No, you did it wrong. Okay. You

In this episode, Malcolm and Simone explore the onset and implications of demographic collapse. From dystopian AI-managed cities to the technological advancements in artificial wombs, the Collinses discuss the possible futures and scenarios we might face in the next 150 years. The conversation includes detailed insights into how collapsing demographics will impact everything from urban infrastructure to social security. By examining current examples from cities like Detroit and nations like China, they predict what life could be like in the coming decades. The couple also outlines practical steps to prepare for a radically changing world economy, including advice on financial diversification, medical self-care, and home security. Whether it’s the bizarre concept of humanoid robots carrying artificial wombs or the perilous future of nationalized healthcare and social security, this episode aims to provide a comprehensive guide to navigating the uncertainties ahead. Episode Transcript:Simone Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Malcolm. I'm so excited to be with you today because we are going to talk about what it's actually like to live through demographic collapse, which really matters because. It's already kind of starting. As William Gibson said, the future is here.It's just not evenly distributed. We're gonna go through the good, the bad, the ugly. And I think we're gonna start off with the weird, like artificial wounds being developed in robot humanoid form. So it's gonna fun.Malcolm Collins: This is in China, but this is happening and I, I'll argue that it's probably not real. It's 100% almost certainly not real, but still I'm very artificial ones are being developed.But what I I, the core point of this episode that we're gonna be going over with you guys. Is, what does it actually feel like to live through a demographic collapse, apocalypse scenario? Mm-hmm. What does the world look like in 150 years? And what, and, and keep in mind we're we will be modifying this with what does this look like?Positive AI timelines in neutral AI timelines because it's a huge modifier on how this plays out is ai. You know, you Yeah. [00:01:00] AlthoughSimone Collins: in some ways AI, I'm gonna argue is gonna make things worse, faster for people, so, oh, I agree. ItMalcolm Collins: absolutely will. But, but what I mean here is in my AI scenarios was in the original.Timeline. AI doesn't come online enough to fix everything. And you get a post apocalypse. It'll create some for R Fab AI that, that have this scenario eventually. But anyway this is, this is like. My day SX world, right? Where, you know, our distant descendant 150 years from now is exploring mostly decayed buildings with like a, a slap drone, right?And cities, you can't even walk in them because they're so dangerous. 'cause things can collapse. What if the AI comes online and decides to keep everything up and running? Right. And so it as a function of just, its, its maintenance function ends up keeping up all the roads in all the cities and you just end up with like eerily empty cities with like a very large in bustling like Orthodox Jewish quarter.But like everything outside of that is, is, is mostly just empty [00:02:00] policed by AI drones. So you can't go out and like break the law or steal something. That could be the very weird and real future that our distant descendants could be living through. So let's talk about what these different futures could look like.Simone Collins: Yeah. And since this just came out in the news and we've gotta talk about it because. This is how things are gonna get weird. Probably not through this method, but through others. Yeah. Some Chinese scientist has, has announced that he's going to create a humanoid robot that will gest state humans according to chosen Biz.An article titled China Develops Pregnancy Robot with Artificial Womb to eight Infertile Couples. It reads, reports have emerged. The world's first pregnancy robot is under development in China. The robot is designed in a human. Human humanoid form and is equipped with an artificial womb in its abdomen, allowing it to carry a fetus for 10 months and give birth.A prototype is expected to be released next year with a selling price of around one thou 100,000 Yuan, approximately one 19.3 million. Juan. So the, the scientist, sorry,Malcolm Collins: sorry. Seems to be like for, for, for [00:03:00] context for our audience that's around 14,000 US dollars. Yeah. So likeSimone Collins: this is 100% not gonna happen.One, it's insane. Like, why would you. Why would you put an artificial womb in a humanoid robot? I mean, one thing that, that, that's really weird is so the, the article also reads, the key to the pregnancy robot is the artificial womb technology where the fetus grows inside the artificial womb filled with amniotic fluid and receives nutrients through a hose.Dr. Zang noted quote, the artificial wound technology is already in a mature stage and now it needs to be implanted in the robot's abdomen so that a real person and the robot can interact to achieve. Pregnancy, allowing the fetus to grow inside. I don't know if he wants people to have intercourse with the robot.This is the most fake China thing I have ever seen, ever. It's beyond fake because I mean, if you're developing an artificial loom, really, like from embryo onward, like you are developing something where the, the, the placenta is also growing in there and the way that.Malcolm Collins: For [00:04:00] context, we have a lot of knowledge about artificial womb development beyond what the art of normal person would, because this is a space we are very interested in potentially very passionate about it investing in.And we're very passionate about it. And so I am aware of the state of the current technology, and this is like somebody comes out there and is like, I have a phaser, right? It's like.Speaker 3: I am awareMalcolm Collins: of the cutting edge technology. You don't have a phaser like we, we, I have teleportation or something, right?Like, it's like No, you don't have teleportation. Yeah. We are at least I'd say maybe six years away from being able to do this in humans, from my knowledge of the current technology. Yeah. And it'sSimone Collins: not gonna look like a humanoid robot. This reminds me of those, those examples of early AI robots in China where like clearly there was just a person.He's speaking to a mic also. Oh yeah. There's,Malcolm Collins: there's this really funny thing. So early in China, they did the thing where they were doing like cutting edge AI at this. They were like, we've done it,Simone Collins: people we've developedMalcolm Collins: in, in Singapore. And the person went up to it, the ai and they could converse with it in English and they could converse with it was in the, the Singapore language, [00:05:00] but it couldn't talk in Mandarin, the Chinese language.This is could only just a person.Simone Collins: But anyway, that's great. Yeah. But also like the way that it spoke was kind of like, yeah, no. So like while this is totally bunk, one, there will absolutely be artificial wounds fairly soon, and two, China is absolutely gonna get on this kind of tech because it is going to probably be, we would, we would argue the first country that is going to start.Printing essentially. Sure. Its own citizens. Oh, absolutely. So, so when peopleMalcolm Collins: are like, no, China wouldn't do, China would absolute. That's exactly the type of thing China would do. Yeah. Come on guys. So for people who dunno during the one child policy, if you was in certain districts, if you'd go in for like a cold, they'd give you like a forced abortion.Like why, why wouldn't they do forced inseminations if you go in for a cold or something like that? Right. Like, they, they, they, the, the. Government there when things get bad enough and when they finally recognize it. And keep in mind things are bad there right now. Mm-hmm. They have tried to force people to have more kids through [00:06:00] differential sort of government.Like it's hard to move up in the government if you don't have at least three kids now.Simone Collins: Yeah. But it's still super trending in the media constantly. In China. Is, is just sort of stuff that's going viral of people talking about why they can't have three kids, like most recently in this reality TV show this celebrity couple.Was discussing how well they had originally pledged to only have one child, and then the husband's kinda like, well, I, I kind of like two kids. And the mother's like, listen, like you're not helping me at all. And like sort of this, this conversation that played out publicly on reality tv. And I'm kind of shocked the CCP allowed them to play this rush.I would not allow this, they, the social media sort of erupted in support of the wife who was like, I'm not having more kids. And in criticism of the husband, like, how dare you say that you want more children, he argued like it would help with his artistic inspiration or something, and his dad died and it made him rethink, you know, the importance of fatherhood and stuff like that.So constantly, like as much as the government's trying to shift the narrative, it's super not working in. Even mainstream media?Malcolm Collins: No, it'sSimone Collins: their onlyMalcolm Collins: [00:07:00] chance. It's their only chance. But then this becomes really scary because. You can get an entire society where the majority of children are born through artificial wombs under the government,Simone Collins: and they can also be, they will be able to be genetically modified by this point too.A scary thing that Malcolm has pointed out that governments may do in the future to not only print their own citizens, but also. Preventive brain drain, because that's also kind of a war that's gonna be taking place between countries, just like they're gonna be fighting over productive taxpayers and productive citizens.To keep citizens captive, y

In this episode of Based Camp, Simone and Malcolm Collins dive deep into the realities of living with disabilities—both visible and invisible. They challenge the mainstream narratives around disability, self-diagnosis, and identity, sharing personal stories about dyslexia, autism, ADHD, and more. The conversation covers the evolution of what society considers a "disability," the dangers of over-identification, the impact of self-diagnosis, and practical advice for thriving with differences. Whether you’re disabled, neurodivergent, or just curious, this episode offers a candid, sometimes controversial, and always insightful look at what it really means to be “disabled” in today’s world. Episode Transcript:Simone Collins (2): [00:00:00] I don't know. Every time I hear someone talk about their disability, I just think of that IT Crowd episode.Moss: You are disabled. What? Why not? You're not disabled. You're getting in trouble. . It's illegal. I don't think so.Hello? Hello. You are right now. Um, do you need help? I'm disabled. Move back. What are you doing? Don't panic from the dog. What? No.So, uh, what happened? I'm disabled. How, how, what? Yeah. How are you disabled? Uh, they're disabled. Wait, I'm being. Do you have a [00:01:00] wheelchair? Yes. Yeah.Stolen.Simone Collins (2): And the scene of him being lifted down from a bus very slowly in his wheelchair, looking so humiliated and embarrassed and like feeble, attempting to look feeble. It's the best. That is, that is what being disabled is.Would you like to know more?Simone Collins (2): Hello Malcolm. It's so exciting to be speaking with you today because we are both disabled, but we're not disabled the way you would think that it's to say we don't identify with it. A lot of people have asked us to talk about this because. They too have various diagnoses and they wanna know how to, well, what you saidMalcolm Collins: is stop being retarded about being retarded.Simone Collins (2): That's the problem. Yes. People are being way too retarded about being disabled, and I think that we should talk about the right way to dis disabilities. Well, because they'reMalcolm Collins: engaging with, in our society, teaches them to [00:02:00] engage with a disability in a way that is really, really. Destructive. Yeah. And where this came up in one of our episodes is I was reading about Gavin Newsom.And Gavin Newsom had this sob story about how difficult it was to grow up with dyslexia. Oh. And when I was reading it, I was like, I just, you know, his learning disability and everything like that, it just sort of occurred to me, and it hasn't occurred to me in, in maybe half a decade that I have dyslexia.And,Simone Collins (2): and then that prompted people to say, okay, well I have dyslexia and I struggle with it. How did you overcome it? And someone else wanted to know, well, what's, because you called it a learning inconvenience, not a learning disability. And they're like, well, what's the difference between a learning inconvenienceMalcolm Collins: and a learning disability?Like literally Simone and you, and you can back this up. When was the last time you think I have mentioned having dyslexia to you or anyone before that episodeSimone Collins (2): and I'm, I mean I think you'd mentioned having it like once or twicelike, it was only one of those things of like, it didn't matter to you and it, it, it didn't affect [00:03:00] your life.And yet, you know, we have good friends who've gone to like a. Disability camps for dyslexia only. Literally, literallyMalcolm Collins: the only time. And, and Simone is diagnosed with autism, right? So again, like this is something, the only time I remember it mattering in my entire life was trying to remember the difference between a B and a D which I severely struggled with.But other than that, it was completely irrelevant throughout the rest of my life. People think thatSimone Collins (2): your mispronunciations are a result of your dyslexia.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, I, I, I was diagnosed by psychol psychologists about this, and one of the reasons why when somebody's like, what's the difference between a learning and convenience and a learning disability, I suppose as somebody who has a plethora of bows it's, it's how much it actually ended up impacting my life.The, the yeah. One that hit me the most growing up by far the most much more than likely Simone's autism, or I would think even, you know, like having one arm or something like that, is I have dysgraphia. Oh. Which means I cannot hand write. So I cannot, and Simone made jokes about this when we [00:04:00] were dating and stuff like that, said I'd come home and I give her a.A writing or something and she'd go over and she'd be like, Malcolm, like, did you, what was it you thought that I had like tutored up?Simone Collins (2): Yeah. So Malcolm comes home and he leaves on the table this like drawing and a little bit of writing and it's like this, this like stick figure of a man and drawing that like literally looks like a first grader did it.If I can find, I think I took a photo of it. If I can find it, I, I've gotta put it up and I put it on the fridge and I was like, oh man. Like at, at the Stanford Business School, they must have some done, some kind of big brother, little brother like thing, you know where the, they brought in kids and you talked with them about business.Speaker 2: You're like, oh, you put that on the fridge? And I'm like, yeah. Like, who were you working with? And you're like, I did that.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And so I going back to when you first learned to write in school, I had to use something and only people who like, have disabilities would know about this, called an Alpha Smart never heard this.So they don't want you to be able to use spell check or any computer [00:05:00] augmented things to help you write. But because you can't hand write, they need to give you something to write with. And so it's a simple computer that can only write strings of texts. And then you plug it into, so it's like a typewriter?Simone Collins (2): It's basically a typewriter, but digital.Malcolm Collins: It's like a digital typewriter. Yeah. Okay. And so that's what I would use for everything in classes and everything like that. Wow. And I was also incredibly slow at writing as well, which also really, and this is the other thing like. That's so crazy 'cause you've written five books.There are things that didn't impact me as much as, the reason I call dyslexia Learning Inconvenience is there is just random genetic variation that impacted me dramatically more. Like, for example, I am terrible at languages. I took Spanish because I grew up in. Right. I, I lived in Spanish speaking countries at times as a kid, and because I live in Texas, you take Spanish every year from kindergarten.I didn't pass Spanish one. That is your first year of Spanish until my junior to senior year in high school. That meant [00:06:00] I failed Spanish. Every single year of my formal education. No, you're like literallySimone Collins (2): a language retard. Like literally you are retarded. I'm literally a language retarded.Speaker 6: Now who can tell me what famous person wrote the Declaration of Independence? Let's see. Oh, I know. How about the new student, Timmy, Tim? No, it wasn't you. Timmy. Try again. Timmy. Did you not do your homework? Come. Uh, Mr. Garrison, haven't you figured it out? Timmy's retarded. Don't call people names Stanley, but he is now.Timmy, you need to work on your study skills. Are you mocking me? Because if you are, I have no problem sending your butt to the principal's office. That dumb.Simone Collins (2): Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Now that is not something I am diagnosed with.That impacted me dramatically more than dyslexia. Another thing. Well, but that'sSimone Collins (2): the thing, and like a big point here though, is that this, the definition of disability has much more to do with what makes you. Non-compliant or non-functional in [00:07:00] some way within a typical environment. And because your typical environment doesn't involve you needing to be bilingual, that in itself doesn't come up as a disability.IMalcolm Collins: actually disagree with this very strongly, really. So I was about to mention the second thing that has impacted me way more than dyslexia. Yeah. The second thing that's impacted me way more than dyslexia is that I am a very slow writer and sort of processor of information thinker more broadly.Yeah, I just think very slowly. And what this means is that in class. I, I, I couldn't take notes. So what I'd always do is for every single class that I did in college, I recorded it on a recorder. Then I went back to my room and I played it and slow speed and typed it out. Wow. And then I went over that and memorized that.The amount of, now this is not a, this is something everybody has to do, and it wasn't due to any recognized disability. No, no,Simone Collins (2): no. I disagree because in college, one of the ways that I made money. And this was, the school paid me to do this was there were students who had exactly the same problem, and I took notes for [00:08:00] them.Malcolm Collins: I know the school offered that to me, but I, I didn't find then it's clearlySimone Collins (2): a recognized disability, and it is because we live in a fast-paced world that this was notMalcolm Collins: I, well, it's a diagnosed disability. You know, the point here is it's not a diagnosed disability. Mm-hmm. And the, the, the point is also with your autism, it's not even just the disabilities 'cause your autism is clearly like a labeled disability, but it has pretty much only helped you in life outside of maybe not picking up on social cues and almost getting griped or something because of that.But I think outside of not knowing how to flirt. But knowing how to flirt with the type of guy having a terrible game wanted. Anyway, I'll let you continue from here, but I wanted to go on th

Join Simone and Malcolm Collins as they dive into the history, science, and controversy of cousin marriage and mixed-race marriage. From Darwin’s pro/con list to modern genetic research, this episode explores the cultural, biological, and personal sides of who we choose to marry. Stay tuned for surprising facts, actionable advice, and a few laughs along the way! Simone Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Malcolm. I'm so excited to be with you today because we're gonna get spicy and extol the virtues of cousin marriage and mixed race marriageSpeaker 4: Mirror universe, encounter mirror, universe. This is easy. Yeah, I can pretend to be evil.Deal.Simone Collins: just so you know, wait, hold on,Malcolm Collins (2): stop. Before you go further. Are we talking about mixed race or just cousin marriage?Simone Collins: Mixed race and cousin marriage. Oh, really? Yeah. We're going, we're going in for both dude.Malcolm Collins (2): ContinueSimone Collins: because ultimately I'm gonna argue that you should basically go for one or the other. ButMalcolm Collins (2): Okay.Either, either marry your cousin or someone of a different race. Yeah, dude.Speaker: Athens's log star, date unknown. My landing party is beamed back to the enterprise and found it and the personnel aboard chain. The ship is subtly altered physically. [00:01:00] Behavior and disciplines become brutal. Savage.Speaker 3: Did howthis.Simone Collins: We're gonna go,Malcolm Collins (2): okay. So go into the genetics of this. Go. Go.Simone Collins: Let me. Can I, Mr. Tired man. Just let, let me drive, let me cook. All right. Anthropologists estimate that over 80% of marriages in history have been between second cousins or closer.So basically the default for the vast majority of human history has been people marrying their relatives. And I remember we were walking in, in the Alps in Switzerland, when you really opened my eyes to this, you were like, listen, like look at these hills. Do you think that the people who've lived here for thousands of years were like.Going far away to marry someone. Like it was really hard. They weren't doing that. They were like marrying their siblings. But, so even today, cousin, marriage rates are pretty high, like especially in parts of the Middle East and North Africa and South Asia. They can meet up to 20 to 50% of marriages to date in countries like Pakistan or Kuwait or [00:02:00] Saudi Arabia.But like, even if you're a, a weird, you know, European urban monoculture person, you should probably be cool with cousin marriage. It, it gave us Charles Darwin, who also in turn was a product of a well he was the product of his second cousin marriage, but he married his first cousin. Yeah. And he's, he's the evolution dude.I mean he's the evolution dude. Yeah. Yeah. HG Wells. He was, he had first cousin parents. Tons of European royals, obviously. But even Albert Einstein married his first cousin, you know, like the, the smart people are doing it. And then if we go to mixed race, which mixed race, so, soMalcolm Collins (2): you're a smart guy like Albert Einstein or Darwin, you're marrying your cousin,Simone Collins: I mean.And I, do you know about Darwin's list of like benefits and drawbacks of marriage? This man was very thoughtful about it.Malcolm Collins (2): Oh, he did? He did a list, yeah. Oh mySimone Collins: God. Oh, okay. Hold on. Sorry. Diversion. You don't know this list. Okay. Charles Darwin, marriage pro and con list. This is too good to. [00:03:00] Yeah. So pros of marriage.So yeah, before he, before he married his first cousin he really thought he, like, he wasn't sure about getting married at all. So before he, he, he married his wife he made a pro con list. Pros of marriage as listed by Darwin. A constant companion and friend in old age children who could be a source of love and play charms of music and female chitchat, a home and someone to care for it.Okay. Significant things I got, I, IMalcolm Collins (2): got the pros. So yeah, you gotSimone Collins: the pros. A significant feeling of being humanized and having greater happiness than solitude and. A, a soft wife on a sofa with a good fire, books and music. What a sweet, I loveMalcolm Collins (2): that.Simone Collins: Sex is notMalcolm Collins (2): in there for him.Simone Collins: No, he's, he's autistic. Darwin, he was probably asexual.So the cons of marriage as listed by Darwin. A terrible loss of time preventing travel or pursuing scientific interests. You know, he [00:04:00] had, he had his special interests, Malcolm, the bugs. Okay. The, the animals. Limited freedom to go wherever he pleased. That's a problem. Forced visits to relatives and having to bend in every trifle.He's not down with that. Also, the anxiety, expense and responsibility associated with children. He was not excited about kids. A reduction in funds, meaning less money for books. Ah, less money for bug. Yes. And less time for evenings out with friends and clever men at clubs. So clever men at clubs.Clever men at clubs. Yeah. So woman, we chat.Malcolm Collins (2): You get but notSimone Collins: clever men. Not clever men. Yes. Yeah. You, you, you. Yeah. He had to trade in Clever men for a soft wife on a sofa with a good fire, books and music, but not as many books.Speaker 2: Not as many. So he thoughtSimone Collins: really carefully about this. Okay. But yeah, I mean like, so obviously like cousin marriage was the historical default because people couldn't get around.But now mixed race marriage is bigger than ever and getting bigger. 18 to [00:05:00] 20% of new marriages in the US are mixed race marriages. They have produced amazing people. Barack Obama, Mariah Carey, tiger Woods, Vanessa Williams. So I'm gonna go through the history of cousin and mixed race, marriage, mixed race marriages, and how the regulation thereof has shaped civilization.We're gonna talk about the benefits and drawbacks of cousin and mixed race marriage. Mm-hmm. Because there are ways to do it and there are ways to not do it. To be blunt, and I'll share general takeaways. If you wanna be really obsessive Darwin style about producing, do not do it. You're gonna suggest some racial pairings are bad.I am. Yes. Sorry, but not sorry. But if you wanna have maximally fit kids based on your partner choice, there are ways to do it better than others. So on average oh my God, this my Basecamp. Okay, we're not about to get canceled. It's not we worth doing. And then ultimately I'm gonna explain why basically.It's, it's optimal to either marry your fourth cousin or third cousin or marry someone from a very [00:06:00] specific different genetic heritage based on your sex and personal background. So this is different for men and women. Okay. Very specific. I'm gonna be tactical here. You're gonna come away with actionable advice for either you or.Marriage planning for children, which is I guess what we're gonna be looking at. And then bonus Malcolm at, 'cause I've, I've looked, I hacked into your 23 and Me account and added you as a contact and I found exactly how much you and I are related. So you get to find out that at the end. 'cause everyone wonders just how related are we?They, they think that we're brother and sister 'cause. You know, look at us.Malcolm Collins (2): Well, no, I mean, we are cousin marriage. She's not my cousin, but she could be, I think genetically faking. Well,Simone Collins: you're gonna find out, aren't you, Malcolm? Are you gonna check that? I already did. I just told you I hacked into your 23 and me account.I made us connect. Wait, are we related? You have to stay awake long enough to see. You have to wait until the end. I'll give you the screenshot. No, I like [00:07:00] and I. I went into your account so I could find our actual Oh my God, Simone, they're totally cousins, aren't we? You're gonna find out. So the history, the history of mixed race marriages and cousin marriages basically genetic and genealogical studies show that before the industrial age, most spouses were on average fourth cousins much more closely related than today's typical partners.So we've sort of like let go. Which is sad. This may explain a sort of, I mean, the fact that maybe we, we are descended from so much cousin marriage could explain as sort of mating, which, which is the, this phenomenon of people being more attracted to people who resemble themselves. So studies have shown that participants in these studies rate faces morphed with their own features as more attractive.So they're like take a general face and like. You know, meld it with pictures of them and those people like, Hey, that person's hot. It's reallyMalcolm Collins (2): nice. Well, no, there, so the Western Mark effect, many people don't know this. Ooh. Yeah. If you grow up separate from your [00:08:00] siblings or your parents mm-hmm. You typically are unnaturally attracted to them when you become an adult.Yeah. And the only reason you are not aroused by your siblings is because of something called the Western mark effect, which means your body cues to people who are around you and who you have affection for mm-hmm. During specific developmental periods, early in your childhood. Yeah. And causes a disgust reaction towards those individuals.Yeah. WhenSimone Collins: you're like. You, I would never, I see you as a sister, as a brother, whatever. Even if you're like,Malcolm Collins (2): it's why people raise together, get this effect even though they're not biologically related. Exactly. Which is a big problem in some parts of the world where they practice communal ride prices at very young ages and trade the kids when they're still youth.Because then they developed a Western Merc effect for each other, and they'll find each other quiteSimone Collins: disgusting. Well, this is also a big problem with those IVF donors who've like, you know, produced children, the allMalcolm Collins (2): like into each other and it's a huge problem. Yeah, no,Simone Collins: and like people hav

How Many Species of Humans Are There? In this thought-provoking episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into the science and controversy behind human genetic diversity, species classification, and what it really means to be "human." From Neanderthals to modern populations, they explore evolutionary history, genetic divergence, and the social implications of speciation. Expect lively debate, fascinating facts, and a few spicy takes on science, society, and the future of humanity. If you enjoy challenging ideas and want to learn more about human evolution, genetics, and the boundaries of species, this episode is for you! Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today is almost certainly gonna stand among our most controversial episodes in which we will be arguing. And I'm not saying that, that, that, that I would argue this, but I'm going to say if humans weren't humans, right, we would likely categorize them as multiple different species.Simone Collins: Oh no. Oh God.Malcolm Collins: Oh no. And now you're coming into this and you're likely thinking, Malcolm, that's insane. Like you must be stretching the data here or something. Did you know that there are living human populations alive today that are more genetically distant from European populations than the Neanderthals were?Simone Collins: Whoa. And they were considered a different species. Right? Like technically they're a different species. Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Now, Neanderthals, it did split off much earlier, but that doesn't mean that they weren't more genetically similar to European populations in these populations. Well also 'causeSimone Collins: there's a decent amount of Neanderthal in a lot of Europeans, right?Malcolm Collins: No, [00:01:00] it's 1%. It's not enough to really fudge the numbers in their direction. Okay. So, so, okay. Okay. You might be thinking Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's go back here. Let's go back. We're gonna go back to okay. We're species. Where does species begins? Darwin's finches. Okay. Darwin's finches.Okay. Darwin's finches evolutionarily diverged from each other and are less genetically different from each other than these humans are from Europeans.Simone Collins: That's a good point.Malcolm Collins: We haven't got yet. We're gonna get into a lot of data here. Oh gosh. It's, it's very uncomfortable data. And I'll at the end, just so you know, so nobody comes in here and says, Malcolm is saying that there are currently multiple species of humans.I'm not saying that we are in the sliders timeline.Speaker: What if you found a portal to a parallel universe? What if you could slide into a thousand different worlds [00:02:00]Malcolm Collins: by the way, for those who didn't watch sliders in sliders, one of the core antagonists, because they could slide between dimensions, was a branch of humanity that evolved from Crow mags. Oh, I didn'tSimone Collins: know that. I didn't watch the show though. So,Malcolm Collins: It's a great show.People should watch it. But anyway one of those great classic sci-fi anyway but the, the, what I think they show in this show is this fundamental fear that if we admitted, like if there are multiple species of humanity around today, like why is that an issue? Right? And people will be like, oh no, no, no, no.They can interbreed and have offspring. They can interbred. Well, you considered Neanderthal a different species, right? Yeah. And you know, just admitted we have Neanderthal DNA and we're gonna go over a lot of species that can I breed and have, and have. Children that inter breeded. So that's not how species are actually [00:03:00] defined, that's how it's defined to you in kindergarten when you don't understand how species work.So how are theySimone Collins: really defined? You're gonna go into that?Malcolm Collins: Oh, I'll go into this. Yeah.Simone Collins: Okay.Malcolm Collins: So, it's, it's one of these things where I think that it, the urban monoculture sort of has this perception that if humans who were different from us actually existed, we would have to eradicate them, or we'd have to like, restructure all of society.Oh. Instead of just admitting like different populations exist that are different in this way and this way and this way. Oh, by the way, you know, this is gonna shock you as well. You're like, oh, you're talking about dramatically genetically different humans. Are you talking about those super black people in Africa?Are you talking about those really fast people in Africa who always win like Olympics and stuff like that? Those African populations? Are actually genetically closer to Europeans than they are to the populations we're gonna be talking about.Simone Collins: No way. Whoa. The BantuMalcolm Collins: that make up like a large African group, right?Ban. Are they the onesSimone Collins: famous for fastMalcolm Collins: runners? No. The Bantu are the ones who are famous for murdering almost everyone in Africa. Nope. They they [00:04:00] spread across, they had this, we're gonna do an episode sometimes on the, the genocide you don't know about. But you can look on maps and they, they basically spread through and just wiped out a lot of, there might have been many more of these early genetic clusters that we don't know about because the Bantu eradicated them.But anyway, the Bantu are one of the large, large groups in Africa today that a lot of people think of. They're more genetically similar to Europeans and they are to these populations we're gonna be talking about, by the way, if you are an an, an African American, you are closer to Europeans than the groups that we're gonna be talking about.So the groups we're going to be talking about are groups for you are very unlikely to know anyone from these populations. Because I think if you did, because we'll be looking into them morphologically, they look morphologically different enough that you would, you would be like, yeah, I'm, I'm comfortable with saying that this is the different species of hominid.A lot of people. Oh, really? Oh, oh wow.Simone Collins: Usual people that you're not seeing walking around the streets of New York City.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Like earlier today I saw, 'cause, we'll, we'll go into this. I saw like they have different ture, they have different body features. Like I saw in a post today, somebody was looking at somebody [00:05:00] who had gotten a, I guess a, a butt injection or something like that, that, that made their butt look like a giant like balloon that like popped out.Like you could stand on it or something if you wanted to. Oh my. And I was like, Ew, gross. Then I look at, at these people, I'm not saying like, you, you know, you have different for these people culturally. I mean, somebody did that because they thought it was beautiful. Right. It's just my cultural perception.Right. These people actually have butts like that.Speaker 4: Oh, naturally.Malcolm Collins: Naturally. Yeah. Good for them. No, good for them. Again we're, we're, we're I'm not saying anything and I'm not saying I believe, I, I actually think that species, what you're gonna learn in this is species is largely subjective. And so that I am going to subjectively choose to say humanity is one species for now, until you and I genetically engineer a new species of humans, which is our families, and that isSimone Collins: 100% our goal.Yeah. We're, well, we're sort of a pro speciation group, so I don't see why speciation should be seen if we talk about it as a negative thing. Right.Malcolm Collins: I don't want able to, to ever say, because we're not arguing this, that there are multiple species of humans. I'm not ultimately say it's better, like from the perspective of just like understanding how populations [00:06:00] work to just say there is one species of of hominid left.Oh, by the way, if, if you wanna say, why is itSimone Collins: better to say that? Why is variety a bad thing?Malcolm Collins: I don't. Personally think it's a bad thing. But I think the way that our society is set up right now, it is a bad thing because of the way the urban monoculture relates to human differences. In the same way, a reporter, when they talked to me there was an instance in which a reporter was talking to me and they were like, well, if you guys continue to genetically modify humans, like what if human were born or like significantly smarter than other people?Like, won't we have to eradicate them? I'm like, what, what are you talking about? Wait, what? Like, that was the implication. Like you cannot have humans who, well, like ISimone Collins: guess we're gonna have to kill you 'cause you're too different. Seriously. Well, that'sMalcolm Collins: the Star Trek universe in Star Trek. That's the case.Humans. Well, yeah, but we're not Star Trek. We're not even this Star Trek is the belief of the urban monoculture. Okay. But anyway I'll put a, a graph on screen here, which many people haven't seen, so they don't really understand like how early these people. Simone, this is a graph I shared with you yesterday.Oh. So I'm not gonna send it to you again. What you will see here [00:07:00] is the sort of speciations of humans and some things you might be surprised about. What we're gonna be focusing on is two groups here. One group, colloquially called Pygmy, but the less offensive term for them is the Central African forages.They broke off. They're more related to us than this other group. And then the other group is a khoisan . They're the group that, that split off a very long time ago. So this group split off when Neanderthals were still around, when the Ians were still around.And I don't mean like at the end of like the Neanderthals, I mean like halfway through Neanderthal lifecycle. Right. Homoerectus was still around, homo ne was still around. And I mean, homo Nadi was still around. In fact, they might have interacted with Homo Nide in the populations where

Welcome to Based Camp! In this episode, Malcolm and Simone Collins dive deep into the controversial topic of "us-versus-them" mindsets. Why is this behavior so often villainized in modern culture? Are there situations where group identity and rivalry are not only natural but necessary? The hosts explore the roots of group dynamics, the role of stereotypes, the impact of cultural and political polarization, and how these forces shape our society. They also discuss the double standards in how group pride is celebrated or condemned, the effects of AI and media on social divides, and the future of identity in an increasingly balkanized world. Whether you agree or disagree, this episode will challenge your assumptions and spark thoughtful debate. Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. It's exciting to be here with you today. Today we are going to be discussing. Us versus them mindsets. 'Simone Collins (3): causeMalcolm Collins: when I, you know, sometimes I'll post transcript of our episodes into, you know, AI to see what it thinks of the arguments that we'reSimone Collins (2): using.Oh no. And it just accuses you of us versus, and, and the mostMalcolm Collins: frequent complaint I get Yeah. Is it uses the quote unquote fallacy of an UPS versus them mindset. A fallacy, and I'm like a, it's a mindset.Simone Collins (2): How is a mindset invalidated, even if it's like an evil mindset? It's not, no, they don't even call it a mindset.Malcolm Collins: They call it a a, a psychological bias, an us versus them psychological bias. And so we'll get into like why ai. Think that this is such a bad thing, because I hear it even more from AI than I do from typical urban monocultural people. But I do see it from the urban monoculture. We'll be like, oh, well that's the us versus them, you know, fallacy or whatever, or bias or you know, psychological, and I'm like.This is actually really messed up. And I would argue that the core reason why us versus them has been so widely framed as a bias is because it allows members of any, any potential group and the urban monoculture has evolved this as a framework. The urban monoculture is sort of what other people call, like woke or broadly progressivism.It allows. And, and what's what's interesting is, is they will tell you, don't use an US versus a mindset while using it themselves when talking about the deplorables or, or, or, or Trump voters or something like that. Right? Hundred percent. Yeah. Like clearly they have an US versus mindset, but then they will tell you, Hey, you know, you, you can't adopt this mindset.And it's a strategy that specifically evolved to prevent you from seeing them as the enemy and rallying around opposing them. There is a them and they are working against your interests. Like, this is the thing and this is why I'm so against this. Hey, I hate us versus them. It makes sense for you as a human to divide humanity into groups that oppose your interests and groups that are aligned with your interests.Because there are groups that are opposed to your interest and even more than just groups that are opposed to your interests. There are, groups that are explicitly around, you know, whether it's racial or gender or ethnocultural groups that have a banded together specifically so that people like them can outcompete people like you, right?And they make it, the urban monoculture makes it. The most punishable for individuals within the groups that it met. It victimizes most frequently to create a group identity as an us to oppose any them. Mm-hmm. So, recently there was a post I saw that I saw it was really shocking that somebody just nakedly had a publication turned down because the paper right now was not taking publications from white men.We're just not gonna do that. No, no, we haven't done enough. None. That is just. Racism and sexism. But if you said, Hey. White men feel that there is a group of individuals who are opposing them in part around gender or ethnic lines and that it makes sense for them to have some sort of comradery around that in terms of opposing that the urban monoculture would.Completely have a, a conniption fit. Whereas if you look at the culture, like the groups that it, it, it, it uplifts like it well pretends to uplift. See our episode on God, what, what's, what was the episode title where we showed that basically it equalitySimone Collins (2): is something like, oh, the racism of equality.Racism of equality, yeah.Malcolm Collins: But like black culture, for example a if you look at Kwanza, like a specific part of Kwanzaa is only shopping at black owned businesses.Simone Collins (3): Mm-hmm.Malcolm Collins: Like it doesn't, it doesn't see any issue as this yet. If somebody said, I only wanna shop at white owned businesses. Right. And, and, and keep in mind, I mean, presumablySimone Collins (2): just imagining anyone being like, support your white-owned businesses this week, that would, I just, yeah.I don't know, like.Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, and people can be like, oh, come on, these businesses aren't advantage. Well, first of all, there's all sorts of loans that they can get that clearly makes them an advantage. Oh my gosh, yes. Like, yeah, but they're subject to racism in terms of who shops there. And I'm like, we can see that.That's objectively not the case. Well also like how do you find out?Simone Collins (2): How would you know that? I mean, unless they actively advertise it.Malcolm Collins: They do actively advertise it if you go to Google Map. Oh yeah. Because it's to theirSimone Collins (2): advantage. But likeMalcolm Collins: if, if you go to Google Maps or if you go to Yelp it will say like black or a woman owned business.That's because theySimone Collins (2): know it will help them. But if they thought it would, right.Malcolm Collins: That's the point I'm making here. Okay. The very fact that they are opting into listing was this identification. And I have never seen a business advertise as a white or male owned business. ImagineSimone Collins (2): a male owned,Malcolm Collins: proudly male owned since 1984.We do that. Can we do that? Oh my God. I'm gonna do that with our businesses. Proudly a white male owned business. Um, Wow. Uh, No. No. But the point being is that the reason why people don't advertise with that is because they know that there is a prejudice against, white male owned businesses.Simone Collins (2): Yeah, absolutely.Malcolm Collins: And, and, and that they will get fewer customers while there is a, a, a positive prejudice towards women or, I, I love they say minority owned when these days minority is such like a, a self opt-in identification. One of the, the funniest. Ways this shows is, is Native Americans have like abysmal fertility rates, and yet the quote unquote Native American population has grown by like 90% in the past 10 years.And it's just due to deciding to identify as Native American, like Pocahontas. Elizabeth Warren what was she like one 17th Native American or something? ISimone Collins (2): thought she didn't turn out to have any.Malcolm Collins: Oh, maybe not at all.Simone Collins (2): Indigenous ancestry. Yeah, that was my understanding.Malcolm Collins: But the point here being is, and, and I'm making in this wider argument, is the reason they're imposing this restriction around ados versus mindset on you is so that you cannot recognize what they are doing to you.And so that the people who they victimize most cannot fight back. That's the entire purpose of this.Simone Collins (3): Hmm.Malcolm Collins: And so now we'll look at the arguments that they use against us versus a mindset to point out that there are fairly stupid arguments. So oversimplification and binary thinking. It reduces complex issues to good verse evil, right verse wrong, ignoring nuances.For instance, people tend to. Excuse flaws of their own group, attributing them to external factors while blaming inherent traits for the same issues. In outgroups, this can escalate minor disagreements into full blown divisions, as seen in political polarization where one side defies itself and demonizes the other, sorry, deifies itself and demonizes the other.And I'm like, I don't think that that's true at all. The, the opposite political party is genuinely, I think, pretty vile right now. Like I, I, I don't see that much. I like redeeming when we attack them, we attack them because. Of what they are attempting to accomplish and what they say they want, which is a, a, a racially segregated society.Like I don't think that that's a good thing. A racially segregated society was Jews at the bottom. I think that maybe we've seen this before and it is bad and it makes sense to be like, ah, them that they're doing the thing, the thing they've done before. We need to stop this. Kristen,Simone Collins (2): not a great thing.Yeah,Malcolm Collins: no, not a great thing. No. It's so funny, like the, the freaking bizarre, like. The same people we know, like educated, productive people. They'll like, share stuff with us that is obviously made up about things that's like happening in Gaza right now. And I'm like, you, you can tell this is obviously fake, right?Like you, you know, this is fake. And no, they, they won't like the, the, the tendency to want to see Jews in the most negative possible light, I think is incredibly high across populations, in part because, okay, well, that's a whole other video. I'm not gonna get too far into that, but I, but I, but I will say that we've seen this before, like, I, I, I find it crazy.That was in my lifetime. I remember walking through London at night. I don't go out at night and seeing an angry, very large mob shouting you know, from the river to the sea marching through the streets and, and very explicitly anti-Semitic things. And, then seeing, you know, death, death to the IDF and stuff like that at the the, the concert, this giant concert, this giant crowd of progressives seeing this.Death. Death to the IDF. Death.

In this episode of Based Camp, Malcolm and Simone Collins explore the fascinating parallels between human behavior in cities and animal behavior in zoos. Drawing on research, personal anecdotes, and cultural observations, they discuss how urban environments can lead to repetitive, compulsive, and sometimes self-destructive behaviors—mirroring what is seen in captive animals. The conversation covers fertility rates, social aggression, learned helplessness, and the psychological effects of modern city life, all with the Collins' signature blend of insight and humor. [00:00:00]Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be discussing an idea that I had that was prompted by something Ruby Yard was saying on what of Alt Hiss, no, which is that if you look at many of the odd behaviors that you see in cities today among humans, many of them look very similar to the types of behaviors that animals begin to make in captivity, specifically mammals in zoos. And a lot of people know the, you know, the mouse utopia experiment, right? And they try to draw a, a line between the mouse utopia use experiment and the ills of modern society and TikTok and falling fertility rates, and it's like, that's all well and good.But the problem is, is that. We have evidence and you could find it online if you, if you Google about this, somebody did a extremely long blotted post that the Mouse Utopia experiment may, may have basically been faked. Like we don't know for sure. It, it basically, it, it, it was of that period of experiments in like the 1950s when [00:01:00] like nobody really cared if it was true or not.They just cared how, how spicy it was. Yeah. It wasn't likeSimone Collins: pre-validation. There wasn't, yeah.Malcolm Collins: Go for it. Sure. Yeah, sure. Whatever. The, the, you wanna put this in your backyard? Yeah. It'll be full of dead mice soon. Sure. Whatever. Yeah. Basically what it appears they may have done is run a bunch of trials and then only reported the ones that were, that got interesting results in a very uncontrolled format.Mm. And, and, and also that that only really gives us like one experiment to look at. But if instead of correlating with mouse utopia experiment, we correlate with well-known and well-documented behavior from zoos.Simone Collins: Ooh, there's a lot of zoos and there's a lot of zoo animals. Yeah, aMalcolm Collins: lot of, and this could be upstream of everything to do with fertility collapse because as you know, one of the most, oh yeah.Simone Collins: Like you, even you, you know, when we used to start in the very beginning talk, talking with media, you talked about people breeding like caged pandas.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. People know caged pandas are famously hard to breed. They, the pandas [00:02:00] don't really breed in captivity. But lots of animals don't breed in captivity.There, there are many species of wild animals that will almost not breed in captivity, which is odd. You know, people can look at humans not breeding and they're like, it's really weird because like evolutionarily we should be programmed to like, want to do all of this stuff stuff. Well, andSimone Collins: especially like if you've got nothing but time, what are you gonna do?But bang each other. What'sSimone Collins (3): going on here?Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And, and then literally it is very similar to cities. They are in a confined area but natural predators are removed and they are given all the food that they could ever want. Yeah. And they are just, tons of toys are thrown in with them like with us, like being on our phone or something like that.Yeah. You're given all of the stimulation so they can masturbate these traditional instincts. When I say masturbate an instinct, what I mean is masturbation. As a concept is, is is when you are using a a stimuli that is not the stimuli that a pattern of arousal or pleasure evolved to be triggered by, [00:03:00] to trigger that.Yeah. And so it could be, you know, your. Exploration stimuli from like a video game or something like that. That's a form of masturbation, right? Mm-hmm. Or as we've said before, you know, having pets instead of having kids is a form of masturbating specific child rearing instincts for some individuals.But anyway, so very, very, very similar circumstances and. I'm just gonna dive into it because I thought it was really interesting and, and I'm, he wasn't the first person to go into this. Somebody wrote a book on this subject. I think it's far back as the 1950s.Simone Collins: Interesting.Malcolm Collins: So, yeah.Simone Collins: Yeah. And I, I, I did a little bit of, of searching around this topic, like wondering what I immediately wondered and I, I actually have a theory as to why this is the case.Also, it sort of dovetails with what we said, so we can kind of bear our notes and diagnoses. Ooh. Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Okay. Animals and zoos often exhibit zoos, repetitive purposeless actions due to stress, lack of stimulation, restricted space.Speaker 6: Oh. [00:04:00]Malcolm Collins: Examples include big cats pacing for hours, elephants swaying or rocking their heads.Zebras biting non-food objects repeatedly, and walrus is regurgitating food. Oh,Simone Collins: They're, they're going polemic. This, this just sounds either like teenage girl stuff or autistic person stuff,Malcolm Collins: right?Yeah. Yeah. Well, and what's also interesting about these behavior patterns is that they, they, they seem to be species specific, so basically Oh yeah. What we see here is we can see like the, the zebras biting non-food objects or walrus is regurgitating food or elephants swaying or rocking their heads or big cat's pacing.What this means is that we should expect humans to have a pattern of behavior like this. Actually while I go further, can you see if humans exhibit any behaviors that are zoos, like within extreme captivity, like jail cells or something? Oh. I think that'd be pretty interesting to see if we noted anything like that.[00:05:00] Cities impose similar confinements through small apartments, et cetera leading to repetitive stereotypes like compulsive phone scrolling, nail biting, skin picking or substance abuse binge drinking and overeating. So you could see these behaviors, like these simple addictive behaviors as being something that you see in jail cells and not, or not, sorry, in, in sort of the captive environment.I'd also note here that there is a common misunderstanding of Zs that people say that monkeys in the wild, like, I don't know, it became like a red pill. Talking point. Don't masturbate. This is not true at all. Monkeys in the wild masturbate a lot. It's well recorded in, in wild monkeys. They may masturbate slightly less than captive monkeys, but I think that's more an issue of the amount of time that they have on their hands.In terms of like status fights, getting food, everything like that. What'd you find, Simone?Simone Collins: It says, and I ask perplexity, humans do exhibit behaviors similar to psychosis, abnormal, repetitive, and somewhat self-destructive behaviors found in [00:06:00] captive animals when subjective to extreme confinement, such as in prisons or during prolonged hospitalization.Yeah,Malcolm Collins: keep your walls. I ask you like what behaviors, what does human psychosis look like?Simone Collins: Like pacing, rocking, self-harm as a result of stress.Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, these are all things we see in city dwellers as well, so I guess this is what makes sense that these are compulsive,Simone Collins: repetitive, routine self-injury or agitation as coping mechanisms.Malcolm Collins: Self-injury, the entire trans movement, and thenSimone Collins: also it prolonged isolation in humans is strongly associated with depression, anxiety, panic attacks, mood swings, impulsivity, apathy, withdrawal, and even psychotic system symptoms such as hallucinations and paranoia.Oh, even cognitive impairments.Malcolm Collins: Is, I mean, is that not what we're seeing with Trump Derangement syndrome, which is primarily coming from cities?Kind of, yeah. Yeah.Simone Collins: Emotional distress and, and also, yeah, and paranoiaMalcolm Collins: and, and hallucinations and, yeah. Wild. And I'll note here, we've mentioned in other videos that, that this incredible low fertility rate and the behavioral issues you see associated [00:07:00] with cities are not a new phenomenon. In fact, cities have been a fertility shredder for.Well, as, as long as we have records of them the, the fertility rate in cities has never been above your population rate except for Jewish populations. That's the only population. Yeah. That, yeah. So just, there'sSimone Collins: always just been this understanding that like the population comes from the rural areas and.Gets shredded and disappears in the urban areas.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And and our theory on that, which we've done videos on, is Jews should be thought of as like a human ethnic group that is such a city specialist, as we've noted something like 98% of Jews live in an urban center.Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.Malcolm Collins: That is such an urban specialist and has been for so long that they've essentially evolved an adaptation.To this environment that allows him to stay cognitively healthy and still breed while in urban environments.Speaker 5: Hmm.Malcolm Collins: And I love it when people are like, oh, you know, because I was talking with a reporter today and she goes, you can't possibly live in a city like Manhattan and have a bunch of kids.And I'm like, well, the Orthodox Jews living in Manhattan would have something to say about that. I think. Yeah,Simone Collins: they're, they're doing all [00:08:00] right. Yeah, they really are. They're, they'reMalcolm Collins: doing all right. Yeah.Simone Collins: Yeah. But I think you also need you, you basically can't do that if you also at the same time, assimilate with mainstream culture in cities and use ma

In this episode, Malcolm and Simone delve deep into understanding Donald Trump's theological beliefs, challenging the initial assumption that Trump lacks a specific theology. The discussion uncovers that Trump has a detailed personal theology heavily influenced by Norman Vincent Peale's teachings and 'The Power of Positive Thinking.' This self-help-centric Christianity shaped much of Trump's behavior and decision-making. Additionally, the episode explores Trump's recent efforts in international peace negotiations and how his contemplation of legacy and afterlife might be influencing his moves to end conflicts around the world. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello, Simone. Today was, it's one of these episodes that's just stunning for me because I come into it being like. You know what? I'm gonna try to untangle what Trump's true theological beliefs are. Okay? And my. Intuition going into this is he just didn't really have a theology. And he just had never thought deeply about this particular subject.Right. Just Trump isSimone Collins: great and everyone knows it.Malcolm Collins: Yeah, he's the best. As I tied dug into it though, I learned that that is very much not true. Whoa. As a. Fairly detailed theology that he doesn't share with the public a lot. So just, you know, this is this, it says not what he signals to the public anymore.But when you understand his theology, a lot of his behaviors that otherwise seem. Crazy or insane or don't make sense all of a sudden makes sense. In fact, I would argue that to understand and predict Trump's behavior, you need to understand his theology. And the other weird thing about this [00:01:00] theology is while it is not a traditional Christian theology, it came from a traditional Christian Church.Oh, but just a unique one. Oh, wow. And, and we're gonna go further here because I also think that his theology has changed a lot recently, given that he thinks he's about to die or not about to die, but he's sort of like, it's the end of my life. You know? He's, he's contemplating his legacy. Yeah.The, the quote recently from him that I absolutely love is if I can see, he's talking about ending the war in the Ukraine. He goes, if I can save 7,000 people a week from being killed, I wanna try and get to heaven if possible. Trump said, I'm hearing that I'm not doing well. I'm really at the bottom of the totem pole, but if I can get to heaven, this will be one of the reasons.And I just love this idea of Trump beginning to get worried. Because, you know, he is cheated on spouses. He doesn't really go to church. He doesn't seem to understand much about the Bible. If we're, if we're gonna talk about, like, not understanding the, there's the famous quote [00:02:00] that I love. In the Bloomberg interview when asked what his favorite Bible verse is.And you know, he just like, the Bible's my favorite book.Speaker: Okay. You mentioned the Bible. You've been talking about how it's your favorite book. And you said, I think last night in Iowa, some people are surprised that you say that. I'm wondering what one or two of your most favored bible, uh, verses are and why? Well, I, I wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very personal.Trump: You know, when I talk about the Bible, it's very personal there. So I don't want to get into verses. I don't want to get into. There's verse, it means a lot to you that you think about or cite. The, the Bible means a lot to me, but I don't want to get into specifics, even to cite a verse that you like. No, I don't wanna do that.I mean, you, an Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy. Uh, probably equal. I think it's just an incredible, the whole Bible is an incredible, I joke, uh, very much so. They always hold up the art of the deal. I say my second favorite book of all time, but, uh, I just think the Bible is just something very special.Malcolm Collins: I don't, I don't know. I don't know. I can't name a book from, I can't name a quote from it, but it's my favorite book. And usually justSimone Collins: a very personal thing. I'm not gonna talk about it.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And then, and then [00:03:00] during a Family Leadership summit interview, he said.Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness if I'm not making any mistakes? Which is a very Trump thing to say. It's, it does not align with traditional Christian theology. Then once when he was giving a speech to a university campus, he called, and this is the type of thing I do because I don't go to church often.He said two Corinthians instead of second Corinthians.Speaker 4: And I, I asked Jerry and I asked some of the folks, because I hear this is a major theme right here, but two Corinthians right, two Corinthians three 17,Malcolm Collins: oh. Which is exactly the type of thing I do. I'd say two Corinthians or something. Totally. Yeah. But I do, I do that because I don't go to church and I'm reading from a sheet of paper. Yeah. That,Simone Collins: that's more like, yeah. Just spoken norms. Not, not necessarily a sinus.Malcolm Collins: No, no, no, no. But , it indicates that he doesn't actually, and we know this from, you know, he, he goes like on holidays and stuff like that. So he is aware, you know, maybe not, not that high up, not that going to church more often in Christian beliefs gets you into heaven more easily.I'm [00:04:00] just saying like he is aware that he has some vices. Right. And also the way he related to Christianity historically. So. He referred to the Christian Sacrament of communion as drinking, quote unquote, my little wine and eating, quote unquote, my little cracker, and that it made him feel, quote unquote, feel cleansed.Little wine, my little cracker.Simone Collins: Why does he say everything 10 times better than anyone else? I, I know. I love it.Malcolm Collins: But so then in one Christian church setting, he said,Speaker 5: I love you Christians. I'm not Christian. I love you.Malcolm Collins: I love you Christians. I'm not Christian. Now a lot of people think he meant to say, I am a Christian. I love you Christians. I am a Christian.Although that makes less sense. I think he might not have interpreted himself as a full Christian at this time, period. Hmm. So, . Chu born Presbyterian. His parents were Methodists before this. Hmm. But when he was young, the family shifted to a new church. This was in the 1970 seventies and it was called the Marble Collegiate Church in Manhattan. [00:05:00] A reform church run by a guy named Norman Vincent Peele.Okay. Okay. Now you might be like, what's so special about a church run by a guy named Norman Vincent Peele?Simone Collins: Yeah.Malcolm Collins: Well, he invented a philosophy that you've probably heard about called The Power of Positive Thinking.Simone Collins: No Blended ChristianityMalcolm Collins: with Motivational Self-Help.Simone Collins: No.Malcolm Collins: Oh no. Now you're beginning to see, oh.So Trump grew up going to a church that taught self-help, principles of the eighties through the pulpit. Wow. Or not eighties, early seventies, when it was really beginning to pick up. So, so, and, and Trump really liked this guy called Peel. He calls him a, a, a mentor of his, he prays his preaching style.We'll go into Trump's connection to him. But, he went to church and drank the Kool-Aid. I mean, [00:06:00] helloNow I want you to listen to what Trump says about Peel in this particular tape, both to understand just how much Trump actually really enjoyed and took seriously the lessons that Peel was teaching from the pulpit, but also how Trump relates to traditional. Christian concepts like asking God for forgiveness instead of going out and attempting to improve yourself on your own, which is a very self-help thing to do.Like it reframes some of when you hear stuff and you're like, that's so sacrilegious to, to approach it in this way. When you hear it in the context of how Trump is thinking about it, you're like. Oh, he's not thinking about it in a traditional religious context. He's thinking about it in terms of a, how do I improve myself through the self-help principles I learned at church context.I.Speaker 8: I love my church. And Norman Vincent Peel, the great Norman Vincent Peele was my pastor. The [00:07:00] power of positive thinking. Everybody's heard of Norman and I love my church. . He was so great. He would give a sermon you never wanted to leave. Sometimes we have sermons, and every once in a while we think about leaving a little early, right? Even though we're Christian, Dr. Norman Vincent Peel. Frank , would give a sermon.I'm telling you, I still remember his sermons. It was unbelievable. And what he would do is he'd bring real life situations, modern day situations into the sermon. And you could listen to him all day long. When you left the church, you were disappointed that it was over. He was the greatest guy.But he was a great, the, the p wrote the Power of Positive Thinking, which is a great book, but, but have you ever asked God for forgiveness?I am not sure I have. I just go and try and do a better job from there. I don't think so. I think I, if I, if I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't [00:08:00] Now when I take, you know, when we go and church and, and when I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink and have my little cracker, I guess that's this form of asking for forgiveness.And I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed. Okay. But, uh, you know, to me that's important. I do that. But in terms of officially, I should, I see, I could say absolutely and everybody. I don't think in terms of that. I, I think in terms of let's go on and let's make.And I would point here that Trump knows that what he's supposed to say to appease a Christian audience is, yes, I have you. You see, he says, like, I could say yes and in this conversation in any controversy that come out of this,Speaker 8: see, I could say a

In this intense discussion, Simone and Malcolm delve into the phenomenon of trans mass shooters, analyzing statistics and counterarguments presented by progressive media. They highlight the difference in rates of mass shootings among trans individuals, cis males, and cis females. The conversation explores broader cultural issues, questioning whether mentally disturbed individuals are more prone to become trans and commit mass shootings. Additionally, the ethical implications of kink-related behaviors and self-control among trans individuals are examined. The video concludes with a critical analysis of notable trans mass shooters and the potential cultural culprits behind these violent impulses. [00:00:00]Malcolm Collins (2): if a person comes up to you and that person says, I'm trans. Mm-hmm. Interpret that asSpeaker 7: Nice to meet you, . Listen, if you ever need anybody murdered. Please give me a call and you, you're giving him card. No.Code of ethics. I will kill anyone anywhere. Children, animals, old people, doesn't matter. I just love killingSpeaker 6: you.Malcolm Collins (2): Okay. Um.Speaker 4: Oh God.Would you like to know more?Malcolm Collins (2): Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be talking about the phenomenon of trans mass shooters. And what I love is the way that Progressive media has covered this is they're like, well, the number one group that's still mass shooters, like this is all fake white males are still the most likely to be mass shooters.Like Yeah. Because there's a lot in more white males than there are trans people. But if you normalize for the population, okay. Even if you take the lowest rates. So I'm not including any of the edge cases, whether or not this person is trans. Yeah. 'cause there wereSimone Collins: some non-binary shooters out there too.Malcolm Collins (2): Some [00:01:00] non-binary. Yeah. Some were trans by one way of looking at it, not trans by another way, but take just a confirmed five tra trans mass shooters since 2017. Now I'd point out here there have been more trans transmat shooters since. 2017, then there have been cis female mass shooters since the eighties.But if you just look at the rate of trans mass shooters you get , per million, 1.759 mass shooters, 1.79. If you look at cis women, it's 0.024. If you look at cis males, it's 0.27. So the rate that a trans person becomes a mass shooter is literally 700% the rate that a man becomes a mass shooter.Stanley, well, do you want to tell your father about what happened at school today? I flunked my math quiz. No, the other thing. What other thing? Oh, the school shooting? Yes, the [00:02:00] school shooting! Oh yeah, some kids shot up the school. Was it you? No.Did you get shot? No. Oh. Well, what's this about failing a math quiz?Malcolm Collins (2): Well, I'll tell you what,Simone Collins: you know, sometimes women struggle to break G glass ceilings, and this is one of those, you know, they just weren't. Yes. It's like they weren't making the quota. This was deeply uneven. Sometimes you just gotta send a man in to do, by the way, a man's job.Malcolm Collins (2): If, if you include the disputed ones as well, it goes up to 3.57.Dog. So, so we're talking, like, we're talking like, you know, what would that be, like 20 times higher or something? So is this just anSimone Collins: issue of like, today , in our modern time post 2017, that deeply disturbed, like mentally disturbed people are way, way more likely to end up going trans because that's just kind of like this catchall solution we throw people into in their youth?Or is this something else? What's going on? No, I thinkMalcolm Collins (2): it's something else. I think it's something totally else. But what I'm gonna point out here is that if a person comes up to you and that person says, [00:03:00] I'm trans. Mm-hmm. You need to interpret that asSpeaker 7: nice to meet you, . Listen, if you ever need anybody murdered. Please give me a call and you, you're giving him card. No.Code of ethics. I will kill anyone anywhere. Children, animals, old people, doesn't matter. I just love killingSpeaker 6: you.Malcolm Collins (2): Okay. Um.Speaker 4: Oh God.Malcolm Collins (2): But I'll, I'll cut to the chase because in this episode we're going to go over a lot of cases of female mass shooters. Just to go over like how rare they are, how, how, how strange they're, we're gonna debunk A lot of the stuff that's out there right now people will say, well, this is really a white male problem because white males are overrepresented within mass shooters and trans people aren't really women.And it's like, okay, except there's a few problems. There have been. If, if I look at like, let's say trans people are not actually the gender that they transition into. Right? Okay. Yeah. Why are there so many male or female to male trans mass shooters? Then why is it that there have been more female to male trans mass [00:04:00] shooters since 2017 than there have been female without any gender issues, trash mass shooters.Why, why is that the case? Right? So clearly that's not what's going on here.Speaker 4: Hmm.Malcolm Collins (2): Then we're gonna go into, okay. I think the answer is, and it, and it actually comes down to we had a call with you know, our, our, our user base, our, like paying user base, ourSimone Collins: VIP based campers, our base camp. What are they?The counselors. It's a good question.Malcolm Collins (2): Like why? If you believe, which by the way, I don't believe this. I do not believe that most trans people are auto gyno files. I think it's, it's closer to anorexia a culture bound disease that could easily be eradicated in Now. Hold on. There'sSimone Collins: a ton of autogynephilia in the trans space now.Malcolm Collins (2): No, there is, but I think it's a smaller part of the community. I think it's like a, a third of the community these days.Simone Collins: Yeah, I think originally.Malcolm Collins (2): I think originally it was the vast majority, but I think these days it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a smaller part of the community. Okay. Okay.I actually think that the [00:05:00] people who transition due to a kink these days, the more common reason than autogynephilia is consent violation kinks, because I just see this practiced so much more wantonly by trans individuals than anything that looks like autogynephilia, IEG, forcing people who clearly don't see them a certain way to kowtow to them.And, , name them a certain way. This is why within many leaders of the movement, you don't even see them attempting to pass. They just really like being able to hold power over other people and force them to boas, , view them in a sexualized way, basically walking around in their version of lingerie and then, , participate in this act through, , correctly gendering them.If you want to see one documented case of this, you can watch our episode, the Life of Asite, about Anna Valens, the journalist who attacked Kirsha. , Valens repeatedly writes about , having a kink around violating other people's consent, and uses the trans identity as an outlet for doing that publicly.Malcolm Collins (2): But he's like, but suppose, suppose it was the majority of the [00:06:00] community and we do know it's her readable.So why not just let these individuals transition and then remove themselves from our gene pool? And I'm like, because Autogynephilia isn't even that like extreme a kink man. Like, do we need to eradicate them just because some group in society realize they can parasitize people by trying to normalize something.Not only that, but the biggest problem with trans individuals is, well, one, that they keep trying to kill people. But two, that they involve other people in what is either a kink for them if they're an auto gyno file or in some form of like self validation display that did not consent to participate in it.Simone Collins: Yeah. Basically you're heuristic when it comes to like. To kinks that you're like, okay, fine. Indulge in it in private, do what you wanna do, find your group, find your tribe versus nah, man, don't do this is when exercising your kink involves revoking consent from other people. Yeah. Imposing your will upon others without them being okay with it or having given [00:07:00] consent.That, that makes sense. Also, just based on my understanding of autogynephilia, like in a post AI world, especially with like virtual environments, wouldn't it be way more effective to like, just have AI create a gendered version of you that you can then bang in like an AI environment? Isn't that Yeah.PeopleMalcolm Collins (2): are gonna do that. Like in, in, in AI environments, gender's gonna be a lot less important as, as, as opposed to like an existential trait of an individual. Mm-hmm. But the larger point here being is that, people just need to learn self-control. There's all sorts of things that like, turn me on. I'll, I'll use me as an example.Here. I wanna do it. I might wanna I might get turned on by like a friend's wife, right? That doesn't mean I, I have a, I I now have to sleep with him to live a happy life. You know, you might get no, this, this is the thing you might get turned on. Like, I so many cakes, so many people have. What's, isn't thatSimone Collins: one of the, the kind of classic bible things of, hey, if you're into your neighbor's wife.Maybe control [00:08:00] yourself.Malcolm Collins (2): Yeah. Like maybe exercise. But, but, but if you look at our book on the prag dis sexuality, we go into it kinks are really, really common. Yeah. In, in fact, you are a very unusual, I think it's like only like 20% of the population has like no kink. You know, if you have no kinks, right?And some kinks you can engage in without violating other people's consent or putting other people at risk and other kinks, you can't. And those kinks should just be put in the category of, I guess I'm just not gonna indulge in this, but within the

In this episode, we explore the fascinating yet controversial realms of telepathy, remote viewing, and other supernatural claims. We take a look at the Stargate Project, a secretive U.S. government experiment aimed at investigating paranormal phenomena during the Cold War. We discuss key figures involved, including advocates who believed in abilities like phasing through walls and remote viewing secret installations. We delve into the credibility of these projects, touching upon elements such as the involvement of high-ranking Scientologists and various debunked claims. Additionally, we analyze the telepathy tapes, mind reading claims, and the influence of mysticism on modern thought. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] he was a key sponsor and advocate for the Stargate Project, he believed soldiers could phase through solid objects by harnessing natural power and positive thinking. Okay, I'm picturing so many people just running into walls hold. He reportedly attempted this himself in his office, repeatedly running into a wall and injuring his nose.Oh yeah. 'cause you gotta believe it. So you gotta lead with your face. Positive thinking. I just can't let it get me down. But it's just I bet if I have positive enough thoughts, I'm gonna phase through a wall. Like, where's the metaphysics of that? What religion believes this?The telepathy tapes Simone is actually diagnosed autisticSpeaker 6: You can read minds.Simone Collins: And people are having the same reaction.Would you like to know more?Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here today. Today we are gonna be talking about two things.Malcolm Collins: The telepathy tapes [00:01:00] and the various government projects that claim to see the supernatural. Project StargateI'm going into both of these because these are two areas where I have seen otherwise rational people like Rudyard, for example, one of all his who's been on the show he has one like episode that like very earnestly looks at these government programs. Oh, and listen to that one on an airplane. Yes.Speaker: Premier me. A solution of Annica Montana Stack. Strength. One point in a million are sure it looks serious. You're right. We need to strengthen the dose. One point in 10 million the chakras are fading. We need some crystals that there should be some purple T quartz. Damnit, you're right. Make that aquamarine quartz. .Speaker 2: Have a look at this, Simon.What is it? Don't think this poor chap's got long to live. Why not? It's lifeline very short.Speaker: Unless. Wait, why we could try drawing a bit more lifeline on with Biro? It didn't ever work.You got a better idea.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And I'm just like, [00:02:00] oh. Boy you maybe should have dug a bit deeper on this before taking this at face value. Basically when we get to it, what you're gonna learn is like all of the high level people were also high level people in ScientologyOkay. To clarify here, only like half were in Scientology. The other were in other weird mystical traditions, but we'll get into those specifically when we get to it.Malcolm Collins: and in ScientologySimone Collins: specifically. Yeah. It was basically a Scientology into the US government.Malcolm Collins: Um, It was, it was basically a, a a, a small branch of the US government that Scientologists extremists took over. And how do we get this? Made a bunch of reports. And the people like Rudyard then come across them and take them seriously. But it's the same as we go into the telepathy tapes, we're gonna go into, Why people believe them because you, the way they present them, it can seem plausible. And then we're gonna go over historical cases that were similar to this, like the case of clever. How do you know? Clever. Clever Hans? Maybe clever how the horse that could do math. [00:03:00] No, basically this exact same thing happened before, and it's funny because in the, in the telepathy tapes, they take the methods they're using on humans and they apply them to animals in one episode.Oh no. And they're like, animals are telepathic too. It's like, oh my god. Literal, clever hosing it here. Well, you know what,Simone Collins: this like, I can't help but think of this concept of people thinking that autistic people can, can read minds or are telepathic. Because of that one lander line where the female journalist is like, she confesses, she says, I.Was bulimic. What? And lander's like you can read minds. And Hansel has this great like, and that's, I feel like I am autisticSpeaker 6: You can read minds.Simone Collins: And people are having the same [00:04:00] reaction. You can read minds,Malcolm Collins: oh my god. By the way, Simone is actually diagnosed autistic as are. I thought you were gonna say, I'mSimone Collins: actually telepathic.Malcolm Collins: Actually. Telepathic. Okay. So parents and caregivers report that their children can quote, unquote read thoughts such as guessing random numbers, words, or colors that someone else is thinking of, even when separated by rooms or distances. For instance, it experiments described children reportedly achieved 95% accuracy in guessing.Three digit numbers or specific details. EG, parent's mental image without any verbal or visual cues. Dr. Powell, a former Harvard faculty member and Parapsychologists claims to have documented this in controlled settings suggests it's not random, but a form of mind to mind transition. And he goes on here to say that there's other gifts as well that these people have.They can see auras. Colored energy fields around people and animals and plants that help diagnose things, speak or understand [00:05:00] multiple languages they've never learned. Play musical instruments per at a perfect pitch and recall a song instantly Predict future events and visit people in their dreams.Perceive time. Now, I, I'd always note on the predicting future events, one, like whenever somebody's like X person can predict future events, I'm like, why aren't they rich? Why, why aren't they rich? If they can do this accurately, why aren't they rich? You know, they should be incredibly easy to play markets if you can predict future events.And they're like, markets aren't personally meaningful to them. And I'm like, okay, put their life savings on a market. Now it's personally, now it's emotionally salient if they lose in the future.Simone Collins: It'd be really cool though if like all the secret billionaires in the world just actually are. They can just see into the future.They just keep their mouth shut. You know, like the way it's gonna be when someone like cracks quantum computing and they just start, you know, mining a bunch of Bitcoin, but they keep it quiet. They don't go too far. So no one notices. And then a bunch of people like act as though they can do this and they can't really, you know, all the financial, you'd actually be able toMalcolm Collins: tell really quickly.[00:06:00]Simone Collins: Well say that's, that's a, that's a relief.Malcolm Collins: Enough people monitor the way billionaires invest, that if they were doing something like that, they'd immediately be flagged for insider trading. And I mean, they, they could develop an algorithm that prevented that from happening, but I don't think they'd get away with it for like, it, it would be more difficult.Yeah. Just 'cause youSimone Collins: can tell the future doesn't mean you're good with algorithms,Malcolm Collins: but I, I'm talking about these people aren't even, like, their main income sources isn't even investing and at the very least it should be. Yeah. You know, perceived time non-linearly, eg. Foreseeing accidents weeks in advance or since energy flows in geometric patterns that align with concepts from quantum physics or ancient mysticism.So how does he explain this? Dr. Powell proposes that autism isn't just a quote unquote disorder, but a neurodivergent state where the brain filters less information allowing access to a shared informational field or collective consciousness. She links this to brain structures like en large ventricles high.Heightened midline activity or overactive [00:07:00] pineal gland, often called the third eye in spiritual traditions. And you see, this is why we shouldn't let women be doctors. This is a, this, this was a mistake here.Speaker 8: Well he was riding his bike when there was a lightning strike And now he rigs real fast, he's good at science and math, black doctor I'm gonna go out on a limb here, where exactly did he get the bike? He stole it! Right, that's what I thought.Malcolm Collins: No, but joking.Some episodes suggest that this be an evolutionary trait with autistic individuals as tuned receivers for subtle energies and neurotypical people ignore. Due to reliance on language and logic, context and popularity.It had gained traction through endorsements like Joe Rogan who discussed it on his show in 2024.Simone Collins: No. AndMalcolm Collins: Russ Shart, a UFO journalist who interviewed OWL in 2025. Oh. So this is thank you Joe Rogan. I was actually just talking with a [00:08:00] reporter from Politico and she goes, well, you know, who could, like, who's a new right figure who could beat JD Vance in the next election cycle?It's like Joe Rogan probably could.Simone Collins: Rogan for president. Really? Well,Malcolm Collins: presidential candidate, I think he clean up. Yeah. And it would help his career as well. So you know why not?Simone Collins: Oh no. Alright.Malcolm Collins: You didn't think about that, but it would,Simone Collins: didn't, it would. Well, I mean, I think, you know, I, the Trump's first run was largely inspired by that too. Like at least it's good for press. Mm-hmm.Malcolm Collins: All right, so, let's go into some of the episodes and claims in the show.Simone Collins: Okay.Malcolm Collins: Starting with the one that I think people find most compelling.Mind reading was near perfect accuracy and control tests. One standout story involves a 13-year-old nonverbal girl named Mia, who reportedly d

In this episode, Simone and the host delve into a controversial discussion on the impact of women and feminist movements on society. The conversation heavily references a piece by Arctotherium titled 'Progress Studies and Feminization', which argues that the rise of women in politics, the labor force, and academia has led to a decline in societal progress and optimism. The host presents various graphs and statistics to support this narrative, highlighting trends in energy consumption, publication rates, and language use from the 1960s onwards. They discuss the role of rationality, reason, and scientific progress, contrasting the forward-looking optimism of past decades with contemporary societal anxieties. The episode also touches on the gendered differences in attitudes towards technology, housing, and environmental issues, suggesting that the increasing influence of women in cultural and political spheres has had a conservative effect on societal progress. Malcolm Collins: [00:00:00] Hello Simone. Today we are going to be discussing how women destroyed society. And because ofSimone Collins: course they did.Malcolm Collins: Of course they did. No, actually, so people, they go on our podcast and they might think we're gonna do one of our sort of bait and switch things here, or I'm like, well, women caused some problems, you know?No. And, and especially, no, you're like, butSimone Collins: actually no, seriously myMalcolm Collins: words, I'm gonna be going over somebody else's piece. So no one attribute this to me. I'm not saying, I'm just saying it's worth talking about this piece. You're just asking a questions lot of, and statistics. Shows how society began to fall apart with the rise of the feminist movement and women participating in politics in the labor force.Mm. And usually I'm not like particularly compelled by these sorts of cases if people know me. Mm. In this instance, I found it. But what's interesting is the entire piece, if you didn't like Wade through the first part, which I'm not gonna share with you guys 'cause it's boring. Thanks. [00:01:00] You and, and the title, you wouldn't know that that's what the piece is.The piece is progress Studies and feminization. Okay. And, and then the subtitle is, you Can't Undo just one part of the 1960s, and it's by our favorite, one of our favorite writers for this show is Arc Ethereum. Oh, he's fun.Simone Collins: Oh, and he also, yeah, no, he's definitely, it's Women's Fault. So, okay.Yeah. Okay. Ardo fine. Let's hear your Ethereum.Malcolm Collins: No. Yeah, and, and the broader thing is, and I, and, and I'll note here, I'm not saying all women are a danger to society. I'm just saying non-autistic women are a danger to society. Thanks, Malcolm. Like, women, like my wife are fine. You're, you're a sweetheart.Simone Collins: Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, just, just to do basic female functions, I have to take the same amount of hormones as a trans woman, so. Can we really call me female,Malcolm Collins: right? Yeah. So here I'm gonna pop on screen a graph that was in this first rambling bit he did which is the Henry Adams curve of energy consumption.And it's supposed to go up [00:02:00] logarithmically, but actually what we can see here is around the 1960s it stopped, and if anything started declining while before, perfectly fitting to the curve. Then if we go down to this next study here we can look at total pages published in the federal Register, thousands of pages per year.We can also see a logarithmic curve going up until we hit around 1975, and then it basically stops. Okay. Now to go into the piece where it starts getting interesting. We live in a age that has lost its optimism. Polls show that people think the world is getting worse and not better. Children fear dying from environmental catastrophe before they reach old age.Technologists are as likely to be told that they are ruining society as they are bettering it. Da da da. And then he is right. This change is quantifiable books written in English, French and German. The Fri three major languages of the modern West showed a continuous rise in the number of terms relating to progress [00:03:00] and the future from around 1600 to 1970 when things suddenly took a turn for the worse.And here I will put on a screen, a graph here, and what you can see here is. Going into the 19 hundreds basically until you get to around the 1970s. Two things happened in the English language. People stop using terms that stand for progress or the future, like moving forwards. Oh, and they start using more words that are associated with caution, worry, and risk.Oh. So society basically became worried about the future getting better. And if you go, and we talked about this in our episode nationalism saves. Countries, and it's not just nationalism, it's retro futuristic nationalism where if you go to the 1950s sci-fi, it's just very forward looking. Very excited about the future.You know, it's all, you know, rocket ships and exploration and, and utopian colonies. When that stuff is incredibly rare in modern sci-fi, you see very, very little utopian sci-fi anymore. And even. Sci-fi that used to have, I, I think Star Trek's a bit of a [00:04:00] dystopia, but it's at least written as a Di Utopia Watch.Our Star Trek episode, one of my favorites. But the utopian nature has left Modern Star Trek where it's written much more dystopian. Now, if you look at something like, you know, lower decks or you look at the new like Picard show and stuff like that. And the larger piece, just so you know, that he is, he sort of views feminism as an antagonist to what he refers to as progress studies or like research into progress.Now I actually think this framing is stupid when what he's actually talking about is human progress more broadly. But if you're wondering what progress studies is that's like what Tyler Cohen, like Mercer does, that sort of stuff.Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. Right.Malcolm Collins: Or I guess aporia more broadly does that, which is where this piece was written.One of the biggest drivers. One worksSimone Collins: in progress too, right? Based outta the uk.Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Okay, so then back to this piece, one of the biggest drivers of progress is rationality. Progress depends on the belief that the world is rational to begin with and can be understood, and therefore intentionally [00:05:00] changed for the better.I would agree with that. Anton Howes, the historian behind the age of invention, calls this the quote unquote improvers mentality and observe that it is historically rare, only arising in a handful of cultures. This is not an intuitive belief. Exclamation mark. Muslim scholar Al Gali famously argued that as everything occurs the way Allah wills it, rather than according to predictable laws, science was impossible.The idea of. Progress that sustained improvement is most possible and desirable is a fleeting one. And here, I'll note here, we've talked about when Islam began to fail and became sort of a religion of the dark ages, because there was a period when it was one of the greatest religions of progress out there.So much so that when Western writers would write scientific works, they would often write under Arab pen names because people wouldn't take them seriously. So that's, that is how far ahead of us they were in the sciences. Right. And Al Gza comes along and basically everything begins to fall apart.He's like, we need to become [00:06:00] mystical. We need to stop this, this progressSimone Collins: stuff. Oh, no. Basically, oh, no.Malcolm Collins: Right. Yeah. Not great. And I don't think it's, it's great for a lot of modern Jewish stuff because we are seeing this in modern Jewish religious traditions with the Habad movement, for example, moving them more towards mysticism and normalizing mysticism, which I see as sort of a Jewish version of Alga. Sufi mystics.Speaker 4: Hmm.Malcolm Collins: Even more importantly, reason allows people to stand on the shoulders of giants. Scientific. And, and I'll note here what mysticism, the reason why mysticism doesn't allow that is because mysticism says that the subjective experiences you, you have whether it's from corrupt in middle states like drugs or spinning, or just your own intuition, take precedence over subjective rationality that can be tested in sort of the court of, of the real world, right?Simone Collins: Yeah,Malcolm Collins: which means you can't stand on giant shoulders anymore because now you're just speculating on somebody else's speculation, which never had anybody really confirm its authenticity except for whoever was a popular idea [00:07:00] person at the time. Scientific and technological progress are driven by exceptional individuals, but reason makes it possible to reliably build on the past or to debunk them when they're wrong, which allows the collective brain to improve over time rather than running in circles.With that in mind, the English purpose shows a steady rise in reason related words, a corresponding fall in intuition related words from 1850 to 1975. In here he shows a chart where you can see principle component words, sentiment intention related words, and rationality related words in four major language groups.Here you've got English all you've got Spanish, you've got English fiction, and you've got English. Excel fiction. I don't know what that stands for. But you can see this is a very strong trend where you have a graph that's just going down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, hits the 1950s shoot, right up to right now we are at a lower use.Of many of these words, like [00:08:00] let's say if you're looking at like the, how high intuition related words are used today. Mm-hmm. They are finally today used more or around as much as they were in the 1850s.Simone Collins: Oh dear.Malcolm Collins: In English and in Spanish. They're used more in English fiction, more Yikes. Right. That is horrifying.If, if you look at sent

Join us in a riveting discussion on the evolution of the concept of the 'woke right,' which has become a contentious tool for targeting individuals like us. We will analyze a viral piece that breaks down the strategic methods employed by what is referred to as the 'non-woke right.' We delve into the nuances of identity politics, the transformation of the right-wing movement, and the criticisms from traditional conservatives. This episode examines the clash between the traditional right and the modern, so-called 'woke right,' exploring the contention over cultural norms, skepticism, and the evolving political landscape. Malcolm Collins: Hello Simone. I'm excited to be here with you today. Today we are going to be discussing the concept of the woke, right, and how it has evolved to be a tool to attack people like you and me. And we are also going to be discussing the play by play of a piece that has sort of gone viral on this.That is a tool for how the the non-work Right. Can attack and destroy people like you and me.Malcolm Collins (2): Ooh, okay.Malcolm Collins: When the term was forced popularized by James Lindsay, I don't know if he coined it, but the, the broad vague idea is it was for sort of right wing extremist who used some tactics that reminded them of the left, like not really engaging in debates, not really engaging in the other side, critically, et cetera.Simone Collins: Identity politics. Right.Malcolm Collins: Identity politics. Yeah. It has dramatically evolved since then as a concept to mean the new Right. As a political movement to very explicitly attack people like you and me. And so to give you what I mean, I'll be reading a bit from the piece here. This, I obviously, I skip around to the center where it gets into the, like the meat of the topic.Hmm. Title, the woke wright stands at the door. And so they say the MAGA right has strange and sinister qualities, which look nothing like the traditional religious wing of conservatism. Familiar from our era of William F. Buckley, or anti-government libertarian conservatism of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.It's. Anarchic rejection of truth. It's Nietzsche esque embrace of power as self-justifying it's unashamed anti-liberal and it's glee and transgressing boundaries and giving offense are something new to the right. And I'm gonna stop there before I go into the next part because I'd actually say everything he says so far.Exactly this channel. Yeah, not the, not the traditional religious, right? Yeah. Certainly we're not libertarian either. We have criticized libertarianism the rejection of what he calls truth. Now, keep in mind when he says truth, he'll get into what he means by that later. He means the truth that's decided on by the elites.Oh, no, basically. And how dare they question what, what us and the, the intellectuals say um, on really. AndSpeaker: to protect the world from devastation,Speaker 2: to unite all peoples within our nation toSpeaker: denounce the evilsSpeaker 2: ofSpeaker: truth andSpeaker 2: love. To extend our reach to the stars aboveMalcolm Collins: then we talked about the, the nietzschean embrace of power itself justifying first we're fans of niche. We've said this in other videos, not enough to pronounce his name correctly. I read his stuff and I thought it was good.It was more like I went to his stuff while we were doing a podcast. 'cause I was like, how bad can this really be? And I'm like, oh. This all sounds fairly inoffensive and like decent advice and even that niche guy. Decent advice. Yeah. Niche. Look, I'm not gonna dirty my mouth with un-American words or, or sounds Okay.Again, transgressing boundaries with like, with a joke like that. Right. You know, sort of playing into this, the idea of power is self-justifying. Well, I wouldn't say that the do right sees power is just self-justifying. It does see power as and we'll get into this because we're also gonna get into, in this, this video, the concept of is there such a thing as like, like should we hold to the concept of no enemies to the right?Simone Collins: And is it a reference to the PHAs.Malcolm Collins: Oh, it might be. But the, the point of it means it's like the right wing and the right wing generally doesn't, is it doesn't eat its own in the way the left wing does. Mm-hmm. And it's like, let's not start that in the way these people trying to coin this new, this woke.Right. Yeah. Because otherwise you'llSimone Collins: break the line. That's why it was to the right shield. But I'llMalcolm Collins: say, and we'll get into this later. Okay. Yeah. Is there is actually utility and being able to call out certain types of right wing beliefs as damaging and traitorous. Yeah. And here I'll get into, I'll, I'll use sort of Nick Fuentes as an avatar for this is specifically we need to, well, we shouldn't call out an individual for having beliefs that are extremely right wing.I, I think that just shutting down conversation, not engaging with that stuff, I think that's bad, right? Yeah, totally. But, but. If you come to the table and you used the right wing sort of social media ecosystem to build a platform, and then you start to say if the mainstream right wing organizations like the president and stuff like that don't capitulate to my vision of the right wing party.I will tell my voters, which he did to not vote for mainstream conservative candidates. You're just, and I'd even say that all of that is okay up until the point where the direction you want them to shift could never win an actual election cycle.Malcolm Collins (2): Mm-hmm. And ifMalcolm Collins: you are playing this game, and it's clearly not like even if I secretly held all of your beliefs, I would not be doing the things you are doing because they are directly counter to your own stated beliefs.And so if you are doing them, it must mean you don't really hold those beliefs and you're just sort of parasitizing the right wing social media landscape to build clout yourself.Malcolm Collins (2): Mm-hmm. Or you'reMalcolm Collins: just incredibly stupid and can't think five steps ahead. But I'm gonna guess it's the first one. I mean, we'll get into evidence for that and, and, and other things here.So I do think we do need to be able to say when somebody's regularly telling their followers to not vote or not regularly, if they ever use the goodwill of the right to build a right wing audience and then tell their followers not to vote for mainstream right wing politicians. E especially if it's over insane things like Trump's VP being in an interracial marriage, buddy.If we go back to a party against interracial marriages, you're not gonna win any election cycle, even if only Republicans are voting. But we'll get into all that in a second. But, so I, the reason why I was just going over all this, you know, transgressing boundaries with degrees anti-liberal, a lot of people see a lot of our philosophy 'cause we've done videos where we talk about the benefits of monarchy, where we talk about the benefits of social systems, where it's not one individual, one vote.Where we talk about ways that capitalism could fail us because we're open to criticizing these questions. And then the old right, just wasn't open to questioning or criticizing these things. And you see this across the right now you know, whether it's courtesy Arvin mainstream, right-wing monarchist who's been on our, our show.So obviously, you know, aligned with us or the aristocratic utensil you know, another monarchist who's been on the show. And so when they say the woke right now, they're talking about. You, me and our friends, and they're saying, why can't we just go back to that theocratic system, that libertarian system?Wow. That was still aristocratic and elitist where we held sway.Simone Collins: Wow. But gosh, is really, I, I just this morning listened to Barry Weiss's interview with the author of the free presses piece on the Rise of the Woke. Right. And this is Recontextualizing so many of the things that the author was saying. Yeah.Because he, yeah. He was really arguing that this is identity politics and it's just white nationalists and it's, they're coming for your sons. But then, you know, he was talking about various instances where there were people who were like a radicalized headmaster at his. Sons, I think it was a classical Christian school.Yeah. And like he, yeah, he was clearly identifying as one of those more old guard nineties Republican Christians who wanted to legislate their values upon other people, whether or not they held his same religious beliefs, so, wow. Yeah. Which is not cool from our perspective. Yeah. Get off my lawn.Malcolm Collins: And, and, and, and, and I also note here that they try to police the arguments that you can make.So they'll say something like, the woke right is, you know, white nationalists when they're generally not white nationalists. Mm-hmm. Because they play identity politics, right? Like, but, but they would play us as playing identity politics because we've pointed out before, right? Like. There genuinely is a, a sort of evolved cabal of interest that victimizes straight white males throughout most of the West.And you are trying to set up the game board to say that we can't say that, that we can't see that we might have a shared common interest. Was anyone else who's victimized for this same reason now? No, this isn't just straight white males who are black males are victimized by this system. White women are victimized by this.Well, white women are probably one group that's not let's say Chinese women are victimized by thisMalcolm Collins (2): system.Malcolm Collins: You know, a lot of people are victimized by the system and have common cause to, to recognize that they are. But when you point out that we're not allowed to recognize that, and we're not allowed to have in-group preference as a system for rec, for, for fighting that you're sort of.Defanging, one of the core arguments you can m