Keeping It Real with Jac and Ral

Inspired by this year’s International Women’s Day campaign, Jac & Ral discuss a different slant on Give to Gain… Because women already give so much! Start by thinking about your gain. Define it, understand what it is you will or will not gain from giving. Then think about your value. How much are you worth? We can tell you it’s more than you think  Ral talks about pricing your value and shares a great story and Jac has a tip when it comes to pricing which you should start doing today. Enjoy Keepers!Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

She saw the future and she has made a damn fine career out of it! She also happens to be one of the leading experts on storytelling for business. That would be Ms Gabrielle Dolan! In this episode Jac interviews Ral to really get the low down on how to tell an effective story – what to do, what not to do and how AI can be your storytelling partner if you use it correctly. Jac & Ral share some great stories and specific examples of what you should can do to also become a storytelling legend.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

If you don’t stop and smell the roses… you’re missing an opportunity for power! Because what gets celebrated gets repeated. It builds momentum and reinforces behaviours. Are you recognising milestones and stopping to celebrate them? Jac & Ral share some great stories and a few specific examples of what you could be celebrating and why it will make a difference to your own career as well as those around you. …and Keeping it Real is celebrating 100 episodes, woo hoo!! Thank you for your support Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewHelp keep the show running:https://www.patreon.com/c/KeepingitRealwithJacandRalNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

They say if you want to predict the future, then create it. And that’s exactly what Jac & Ral discuss in this episode. Both talk about how they created the futures they wanted – personally and professionally, sharing the barriers and the opportunities and what was the key to making it happen. An episode packed full of advice, inspiration and empowerment. There is nothing stopping you… your future is in your hands.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

Except “only just 1 drink!” but other than that, boundaries are the GOAT. In this episode Jac and Ral discuss boundaries, what they are, why they are critical to being successful and how to set them with purpose in mind. Jac asks Ral about her non-negotiables and Ral shares a fantastic process you can undertake immediately which will motivate you to move forward in setting your own boundaries.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Every leader, every board member, CEO, founder, executive has f**ked up. Badly. Repeatedly. Publicly. Quietly. Expensively. In this episode Jac & Ral share their own right royal f**k ups and what happened next… Ral also tells us about some very well known, senior leaders and their mistakes – most worked out well and ALL learned so much about themselves and their organisations. And Jac shares her four R’s and the Keeping it Real theory called AIR when it comes to what to do the minute you f**k up.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

….And we’re back baby! With a doozy first episode because careers in 2026 don’t look like they used to.. and if yours feels flat, uncertain, or underpowered, it’s not because you’re failing. It’s because the rules have changed.In this first episode of the new year we share why 2026 is not about climbing harder, it’s about thinking differently.Jac shares the 5 key things you need to rethink, do and stop doing - if you want a career that actually works for you. No career ladders. No platitudes. Just real conversation, practical insights and some sharp questions from Ral to help you fire up your career for what’s next.Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Our final episode of the year, and Ral takes us through the year that was.So many things happened in 2025… what do you remember? And what did you not even know??Listen in to our 95th episode and final one for this year – thank you for all your support Keepers, we can’t wait to return in 2026 with many more stories, laughs and lots of learnings.Merry Christmas!---Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

A Storyteller and a Leadership Coach walk into a bar… literally! In this episode, recorded in a Melbourne bar with a live audience, Jac sits down with Ral to unpack her latest book, Story Intelligence: The Craft of Authentic Storytelling Made Smarter with AI.Together they explore why storytelling remains one of the most powerful leadership tools and how AI is elevating it in ways we’ve never seen before.Ral introduces SQ (Story Intelligence) – a bold new concept she’s determined to see in the dictionary and reveals how leaders, creators and everyday humans can use SQ to communicate with clarity, authenticity and influence.This is storytelling for a new era: real, relevant and reimagined. A big thank you to all the Keepers who joined us at this live recording.----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Offsites should be the most energising day in your team’s year…So why do so many feel like a hostage situation with pastries?In this episode, Jac & Ral break down exactly what makes an offsite brilliant, memorable and commercially valuable - not just another day of a stuffy room, bad slides, beige thinking and forced fun.You’ll learn:The 5 elements every high-impact 2026 offsite must includeHow to design an agenda that wakes people up (literally and mentally)Simple ways to link your offsite to real business outcomesFresh ideas to inspire, align and fire up your people for the year aheadAnd the common mistakes leaders make that drain energy and kills momentum If you want your next offsite to spark clarity, creativity, connection and actual behaviour change, this is the episode.Because teams don’t remember PowerPoints.They remember how the day made them think, feel and act.----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Imagine being 26 and creating an app that’s redefining how the world runs. Louis Phillips is the co-founder and CEO of INTVL, a fitness and running platform that’s exploded globally, not just because of the tech… but because of how he tells the story.In this episode, we’re picking Louis’s brain on what every leader can learn from a generation that builds community, not just campaigns… and knows how to make digital content feel human.Listen to learn a number of gems you can apply to your workplace and find out what keeps Louie real!Get INVTL: https://www.intvl.com.au/Follow Louis: https://www.instagram.com/louisphillips12/Follow On it Off it: https://open.spotify.com/show/34NH08Hgi5rjlgXKxjVbv4---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Emotional intelligence used to be call soft skills, however the future just made EI the power skills.As AI gets smarter, the leaders who can sense emotion, read the room, and stay regulated under pressure will be the ones still standing. Tech will expose emotional blind spots faster than you can say “feedback” the question is, will we use it to connect and influence… or to manipulate?In this episode, Jac & Ral dive into the future of EQ: boundaried empathy (caring without carrying everything), emotionally intelligent organisations (not just leaders), and why EQ + adaptability is the new leadership currency.If you think emotional intelligence is fluffy, you’re already behind. It's time to learn more or get automated out of relevance.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Emotional intelligence used to be call soft skills, however the future just made EI the power skills.As AI gets smarter, the leaders who can sense emotion, read the room, and stay regulated under pressure will be the ones still standing. Tech will expose emotional blind spots faster than you can say “feedback” the question is, will we use it to connect and influence… or to manipulate?In this episode, Jac & Ral dive into the future of EQ: boundaried empathy (caring without carrying everything), emotionally intelligent organisations (not just leaders), and why EQ + adaptability is the new leadership currency.If you think emotional intelligence is fluffy, you’re already behind. It's time to learn more or get automated out of relevance.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Have you ever been asked what your leadership style is? And were you clear, confident and articulate in your response? Most of us either don’t know it, or if we do, don’t communicate it well.In this episode, Jac and Ral discuss the 10 traditional leader styles – what we think is relevant for today and what we think isn’t. Ral even comes up with a new style (watch this one take off!) and Jac shares 3 new leader archetypes for those leaders who need to be future focused… which is all of us!Enjoy.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

In this episode, Jac and Ral explore the concept of “leading from the side” - a leadership stance that sits between the traditional command-and-control approach and servant leadership (leading from behind).What organisations need today is less about the single strong person out front giving all the orders, and less about the heroic self-effacing leader in the background, and more about someone who positions themselves alongside their teams enabling, supporting, influencing and co-creating rather than simply directing.Listen in for practical tips on how to build real relationships, ask powerful questions, delegate ownership, and celebrate small moves in that collaborative direction.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

So instead of breaking bad… we’re Breaking Good! In this latest episode, Ral opens up about a recent health scare that became the catalyst for big, positive change.This isn’t her first rodeo, she knew for awhile she wasn’t at peak performance, her Oura ring told her… daily. Jac suggested throwing the ring away but Ral’s smart, she took responsibility and shares how she created a new healthier habit - and the reason it was easier this time by getting crystal clear on her why.Together, Jac and Ral unpack how to use “Breaking Good” moments to create healthier habits, find motivation that lasts, and build a life that feels good from the inside out. ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We are all chasing a good life, a happy life and a meaningful life, but recent research claims we should be chasing a psychological rich life… what is that?A psychological rich life is marked by novel experiences, perspective sharing insights and complexity. This type of life has more discomfort than a happy or meaningful life and asks us to leave our comfort zones and be open to changing our minds, so we get to experience a much richer more reflective life.It's all about your life journey and your accumulation of rich experiences, which won’t always be joyful. Jac challenges you to embrace the challenging, the complex, the uncomfortable and Ral shares one such holiday which was exactly that! She also wants to know what happens when you eat asparagus??Enjoy this psychologically rich episode!---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Following on from last week’s interview with Layne Beachley, in part 2 Ral digs deeper and finds out more about what drives the very healthy and humble Layne, when she knew it was time to stop chasing waves for competition and some very funny stories about marrying a rockstar, picking up litter and what keeps her real… the answer will surprise you! ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Resilience, courage and the power of positive mindset…Seven-time world surfing champ Layne Beachley can teach us how to achieve all three. She’s a legend, driven by immense purpose and she keeps it real in this great part 1 interview with Ral.Hear Layne talk openly about the multiple times she thought of giving up, and how she used the lessons she’s learned and applied these – mental fortitude, her ability to listen to her own body and intuition, her fear of success, her ignorance to her own fears and judgements and when she started taking personal accountability.If you’re chasing success in your personal or professional life, don’t miss part 1 of this inspiring interview with Layne and Ral.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

There are eight traits of high performance Jac has identified after coaching leaders across many different industries – these traits quietly separate the rockstars from the random…After discussing these last week, Jac & Ral went deep and both agreed it was worth doing so in order for our Keepers to get a great grasp on what can set them up for leadership performance success.Do you display the eight raw signals of true high performance?---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown