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Let's Talk Loyalty
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“Let’s Talk Loyalty” is an industry podcast for loyalty marketing professionals.
If you work in loyalty marketing, join us every week to learn the latest ideas and marketing insights from loyalty specialists around the world.
Check out our website on: http://www.letstalkloyalty.com/
If you work in loyalty marketing, join us every week to learn the latest ideas and marketing insights from loyalty specialists around the world.
Check out our website on: http://www.letstalkloyalty.com/
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Today we are re-publishing back one of our most popular episodes as our planned episode has been delayed for technical reasons and now also available to watch on www.Loyalty.TV and listen on Let's Talk Loyalty Bakers Delight won their award for Best Loyalty Program Launch at the 2023/2024 Awards, so we are delighted to share this story with you today.Our guest is Lucila Braga, who was previously the Head of Digital Customer Experience for Bakers Delight, with overall responsibility for their “Dough Getters” program.As a brand, quite simply, Baker’s Delight sells freshly baked bread and they’ve been doing so around the country since 1980.Their loyalty programme is also super simple as you’ll hear in today’s conversation.Listen to hear the power of simplicity as a winning formula for both customers and program operators.Hosted by Paula Thomas Show notes:1) Lucila Braga2) Bakers Delight3) Dough Getters
This episode of Let's Talk Loyalty & Loyalty TV is in SpanishEn este episodio de Let’s Talk Loyalty, exploramos la evolución de Doters, el innovador programa de lealtad de Viva Aerobus y sus aliados terrestres de Grupo IAMSA. Pablo Sordo nos detalla cómo han logrado consolidar esfuerzos aislados en un ecosistema único que hoy cuenta con 10 millones de miembros.Descubrimos la estrategia detrás de democratizar la lealtad en el modelo low-cost, los retos de integrar el transporte aéreo con el terrestre y cómo la simplicidad en la redención ha sido la clave del éxito. Una mirada profunda a la tecnología, la cultura organizacional y la visión de convertir a los puntos Doters en la segunda moneda de los mexicanos.Show Notes:1) Pablo Sordo 2) Viva Aerobus3) Grupo IAMSA
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.In this episode, Charlie Hills is joined by Jakub and John from the Global and UK Shell Go+ Teams.Jakub serves as the Europe & North America Loyalty & CRM Lead at Shell, where he has been driving customer engagement and commercial value since 2021. Before joining Shell, he led the end-to-end design and launch of the Footlocker Membership program in Europe. Jakub is a strong advocate for building meaningful emotional relationships with customers to ensure the long-term success and value of loyalty programs.John is the Head of Loyalty and CRM for Shell UK. He brings a wealth of experience from across the industry, having worked in both agency and client-side roles for companies including Shell, Vodafone, and in the financial services, home energy, retail, and banking sectors.In this episode, they share their favourite books, highlights, and key learnings from the loyalty programmes they have worked on, offering insights into what loyalty looks like today and how it is evolving for Shell.Hosted by Charlie HillsShow Notes :1) Jakub Krzakala2) Jonathan Kelly3) Shell GO+ Rewards3) Surrounded by Idiots - Book Recommendation4) Thinking in Bets - Book recommendation
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Welcome to the first episode of 2026 on Let’s Talk Loyalty & Loyalty TV! We’re starting the year by exploring how Cashpoints is transforming loyalty programs with instant rewards that drive engagement and growth.Ian Sutcliffe, co-creator of Cashpoints, shares the journey of building a real-time, multi-partner loyalty ecosystem from the ground up—covering instant point issuance, flexible redemption, partner-first technology, and the smart use of physical and digital touchpoints.Discover why real-time rewards are the future of loyalty, how they create moments of delight for customers, and what brands can do to innovate in 2026. A perfect episode to start your year with actionable insights and inspiration for the loyalty space!Hosted by Carly Neubauer Show Notes:1) Ian Sutcliffe2)Cashpoints3) Book recommendation: Grit by Angela Duckworth4) #141: Loyalty Excellence and Innovation with AA Smartfuel New Zealand
This short episode explains our plans for the holidays this year and when we'll be back with new episodes for you.Happy Christmas and Happy New Year from all at Let's Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV.
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.In today's episode, Ros Netto, Global Head of Rewards at Virgin Active, shares how their program motivates members through gamification, milestones, and personalized experiences. She discusses the challenges of scaling globally while creating meaningful connections that go beyond points, inspiring loyalty that truly transforms members’ wellness journeys. Hosted by Joanna WitschThis episode is sponsored by Comarch Show Notes:1) Ros Netto2) Virgin Active3) Book recommendation: The Happiness Project
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Steve Habbi , award-winning brand leader, shares how loyalty goes beyond points. Discover how utility, seamless experiences, emotional resonance, and AI-driven personalization can turn customers into lifelong fans. From HSBC and the London Stock Exchange to Formula One, learn actionable insights on building loyalty through memorable experiences.Hosted by Nyeleti Sue-Angel NkunaShow notes:1) Steve Habbi2) Soler Coaster3) Book Recommendation: Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Over the past year Choice Hotels has made changes to their customer loyalty and rewards program, Choice Privileges, and following their most recent announcement we were fortunate to reconnect with Nandika Suri who is their Vice President of Loyalty, Cobrand Card and Partnerships for Choice Hotels International.The conversation flows from her impressive career in Travel and Retail loyalty at leading brands beyond Choice Hotels, which include Under Armour and United Airlines, to the reasons why she's implementing changes to the program. Nandika shares the impact already seen by the hotelier, most of which are franchise owned and operated, and the new value exchanges available to all customer types - those staying only a few times a year through to their new Titanium level members. Hosted by Aaron DauphineeShow Notes:1) Nandika Suri2) Choice Hotels International3) Choice Privileges4) Book recommendation: The Loyalty Effect
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Dr Melanie Van Rooy talks openly in this podcast about what it takes to run a 30 year old leading loyalty programme which delights almost 13 million active members. Clicks ClubCard won three awards at this year’s South African Loyalty Awards and most notably Team of the Year. Clicks Clubcard represents 84% of sales of its iconic mother brand, Clicks and members enjoy a 90% redemption rate. These are hard-hitting loyalty KPIs which position perfectly as South Africa’s most used loyalty programme.Hosted by Amanda CromhoutShow Notes:- 1) Melanie Van Rooy2) Clicks3) Clicks ClubCard 4) Book recommendation : Primal Leadership5) Book recommendation: Never Split the Difference
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.In this episode we are delighted to interview Shaun Hatrick, the Director of Partnerships and Business development for Nectar.Shaun is an expert in the loyalty and marketing space with almost two decades of experience shaping partnership and customer engagement strategies. Over his career, he’s led the development and launch of innovative loyalty and marketing propositions for some of the world’s most recognised brands — including American Express, British Airways, Sobeys, Esso, and more.As Director of Nectar Partnerships and Business Development, he brings together data, creativity, and commercial insight to build meaningful, high-value relationships across the Nectar coalition. His focus is on driving growth through collaboration — connecting brands with millions of customers in ways that deliver real, measurable impact.Today we will be learning about his favourite books, highlights and key learnings from the programmes he has worked on and all what loyalty looks like now and in the future for Nectar.Hosted by Charlie HillsShow Notes :1) Shaun Hatrick2) Nectar3) Podcast Recommendation: Good Hang with Amy Poehler4) Podcast Recommendation: Las Culturistas
In this Wiser Loyalty episode we speak with Shivaji Choudhary, Assistant General Manager of Marketing at DLF Malls and one of the key principles in building out and recently launching DLF Mall Rewards. He talks about 'the DLF way' and how his team is combining experience and experimentation to create delight at their destination malls. DLF is a 78 year old real-estate development, management and investment services firm in India. It is the largest publicly listed real estate company in India with residential, commercial and retail properties across 15 states and 24 cities. This conversation is an intriguing look at how human and digital program delivery is coming together to create experiences that elevate the ideology of loyalty and move it beyond the programmatic in some very novel ways.Hosted by Aaron DauphineeShow notes:1) Shivaji Choudhary2) DLF Mall Rewards3) DLF4) Book Recommendation: Barking Up the Wrong Tree
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.In this episode of Let's Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV, we sit down with Aoun Raza and Emily Ong from Landmark Group’s Shukran program, one of the GCC’s most successful loyalty programs with over 14 million active members.They also discuss Shukran’s program revamp, its impact on engagement, and strategies for building lasting loyalty.Hosted by Lisa Brightwell.Show Notes:1) Aoun Raza2) Emily Ong 3) Landmark Group4) How to Lead in Product Management by Roman Pickler - Book recommendation 5) Never Lose A Customer Again by Joey Coleman - Book recommendation
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.In this episode of Let’s Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV, Oleksandr Koliakin and Kanan Nabar from Shell share how they build and run a loyalty program across 25 markets worldwide. They discuss program design, regional and cultural adaptations, measurement, technology choices, lessons learned, and delivering seamless, rewarding customer experiences that drive engagement and business value.Hosted by Carly Neubauer Show notes:1) Oleksandr Koliakin2) Kanan Nabar3) Shell 4) Book recommendation: Personalized: Customer Strategy in the Age of AI5) Book recommendation: Strengths Based Parenting
Canada is very well known for its coalition loyalty programs and proprietary programs that expand earn and redemption opportunities through strong partnerships. RMG Loyalty, nearing its 25th year, specializes in small business loyalty solutions and manages partnerships that link SMBs to major rewards programs. Specifically, they have managed SMB programs for the AIR MILES rewards program and More Rewards, which has extended the earning opportunities for members of these programs.Kate Booth is the President of RMG Loyalty and she has been instrumental in creating successful customer programs, consumer and small business, for RMG Loyalty’s clients. We will get her perspective on the value of B2B/SMB loyalty programs and how consumer programs can benefit from an integrated strategy that considers both consumers and small business owners.Hosted by Aaron DauphineeShow notes:1) Kate Booth2) RMG Loyalty3) AIR MILES rewards program4) More Rewards5) Book recommendations: The Science of Scaling
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Today's interview features insights from MSET, a UAE based digital solution company that is helping brands build smarter and more meaningful loyalty experiences, with an amazing client list in FMCG (fast-moving consumer goods) and telecommunications. We're joined by Co-Founder Suky Bal, and Lead Campaign Manager Rajesh Srimalani, who enjoyed a great conversation in person in our studio with host Lisa Brightwell.With SO much opportunity for innovation in the fast-moving consumer goods sector in particular, MSET shares some incredible insights from their global clients.Together, they share the story behind MSET as an ambitious loyalty marketing platform, and explore how they've developed innovative concepts in partnership with their clients that are driving growth and success worldwide.They also explored the challenges of managing loyalty in the telecommunications sector, and how applying psychological drivers helps deepen engagement and strengthen loyalty at every step of the journey - no matter what industry you're in.Enjoy!Hosted by Lisa Brightwell.Show notes:1) Suky Bal2) Rajesh Srimalani3) MSET4) Book Recommendation: Predictably Irrational5) Book Recommendation: Outliers
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.In its 3rd year, the Australian Loyalty Insights Report reveals three main themes. This report is brought to the loyalty industry by The Australian Loyalty Association and the Association's CEO, Sarah Richardson unveils the insights to us in this podcast.The top three themes revolve around The AI revolution, cost of living crisis and the role loyalty plays to combat this and the need for programme delivery to be seamlessly executed. The report is sponsored by Mastercard and showcases the views of over 3700 Australians surveyed, combined with social listening and trend analysis.Hosted by Amanda Cromhout Show Notes :1) Sarah Richardson2)The Australian Loyalty Association3) Australian Loyalty Insights Report4) Thick Face, Black Heart : Book Recommendation
In this episode of Let’s Talk Loyalty & Loyalty TV we sit down with Kristoffer Windall Juhl , Managing Director and CEO of Tekla, to explore how a digitally-first, Scandinavian brand has built an unwaveringly loyal customer base. From the meticulous care put into Tekla’s products to creating immersive retail experiences, Kristoffer shares insights on brand-led growth, the power of gifting, and how meaningful interactions drive loyalty without relying on conventional points-based programs. Discover the strategy, storytelling, and patience behind cultivating a brand that resonates across generations and geographies, and hear the story behind the name “Tekla.”Hosted by Nyeleti Sue-Angel Nkuna Show Notes 1) Kristoffer Windall Juhl2) Tekla3) Acquired Podcast - Podcast Recommendation4) The Knowledge Project - Podcast Recommendation
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Tune into Let’s Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV to hear from Sid Krishna, Vice President of Carnival Cruise Line, on how Carnival is elevating the customer experience as a key party of earning customer loyalty through fleet innovations, exclusive island enhancements and a reimagined loyalty program launching in 2026, Carnival Rewards.Sid shares how new and upgraded ships, destination developments like Celebration Key, and a simplified, more engaging loyalty program structure are designed to build trust and emotional connection with guests. Sid also provides insights and reflections on the strong early customer response to Carnival Rewards and how Carnival heard and addressed this feedback in a trusting and respectful fashion as a part of how Carnival is leading the industry in customer experience, trust, and loyalty.Hosted by Bridget Blaise-Shamai Show Notes:- 1) Sid Krishna2)Carnival Cruise Line3) Book recommendation: Bring the Noise: The Jürgen Klopp Story
This episode of Let's Talk Loyalty & Loyalty TV is in SpanishHoy en Let’s Talk Loyalty en español converso con Max Everett, Director de Lealtad en Enterprise Mobility. Desmenuzamos Enterprise Plus, la estrategia de lealtad de la marca, su relación con Emerald Club y Emerald Aisle, y cómo juntos crean valor real para el viajero. Hablamos del rol del loyalty en la estrategia de la empresa, sus líneas de negocio y su posición de liderazgo en EE. UU. También abordamos métricas clave y cómo aprenden del cliente para mejorar la experiencia. Un episodio con ideas accionables sobre cultura, datos y experiencias que construyen lealtad.Hosted by Alex Saul Show Notes:1) Max Everett2) Enterprise Mobility3) Book recommendation: Leaders eat last de Simón Sinek.
This episode is available in audio format on our Let's Talk Loyalty podcast and in video format on www.Loyalty.TV.Paula Thomas here - proud Founder and CEO of Let's Talk Loyalty and Loyalty TV.... with my final ever episode for you as a host of our show. It's been an incredible experience to interview so many incredible guests and loyalty leaders but now it's time for me to let our amazing global panel of hosts take over. I hope you enjoy listening (or watching) as I exit from behind the microphone to focus on growing our business.























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