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Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate.
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Season 10, Episode 2: What really happened to Blockbuster, and what did 7-Eleven understand that other retailers missed? Jim Keyes, former CEO of 7-Eleven and Blockbuster, joins No Cap to talk about the rise, reinvention, and disruption behind two of America’s most recognizable retail brands. Jim explains how 7-Eleven used technology, franchising, and real estate to scale globally, why Blockbuster’s collapse was far more complicated than simply missing streaming, and how deals with Google, MovieLink, and Viacom could have changed its future. The conversation also covers Carl Icahn, the 2008 financial crisis, retail real estate, AI, education, and why Jim believes adaptability and human skills will matter more than ever. CHAPTERS 00:00 - Jim Keyes on 7-Eleven, Blockbuster, and Real Estate 08:32 - From Columbia to the Oil Business 16:17 - How 7-Eleven Survived Bankruptcy 24:34 - The Real Estate Behind 7-Eleven’s Franchise Model 34:00 - Carl Icahn and the Move to Blockbuster 42:00 - Why Blockbuster’s Real Estate Wasn’t the Problem 49:07 - The Three Deals That Could Have Changed Blockbuster 57:20 - Why Human Skills Matter More in the Age of AI 01:05:02 - Why Jim Wants to Reinvent Education 01:12:19 - Why Education Is More Important Than Ever For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
Season 10, Episode 1: Two multifamily operators with very different ways of raising capital agree on one rule: don't flip. Bob Nicolls owns Monarch Investment and Management Group, a Midwest-based operator of mostly B and C apartments funded by individual investors. John Gochberg is President and CEO of TGM Associates, which has managed money for large pension funds since 1991. They met at a principals-only dinner at the National Multifamily Housing Council conference and now co-host it. The tension worth tuning in for: Nicolls says the industry's vacancy numbers are misleading, Gochberg wonders whether some of today's trades are the next bubble, and both say the best deals are often the ones you skip. CHAPTERS 00:00 - Bob Nicolls and John Gochberg Join No Cap 07:00 - How Institutional Capital Entered Multifamily 14:00 - Individual Capital Versus Pension Fund Capital 21:00 - What Makes a Multifamily Deal Worth Buying 28:00 - The Affordable Housing Problem 35:00 - Amenities, Turnover, and Long-Term Operations 42:00 - Is Now Actually a Good Time to Buy? 49:00 - Secondary Markets, Fannie, Freddie, and Financing 56:00 - Building Monarch and Buying a Ski Resort 01:01:00 - Why Consistency Matters in Real Estate For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
From the No Cap vault, we’re bringing back the episode that became our most-watched conversation ever. Bob Knakal had already closed more than 2,300 deals, built one of New York City’s dominant investment sales firms, and spent four decades studying what separated top brokers from everyone else. In this conversation, Bob broke down the habits behind his career, why specialization mattered, how deep market knowledge created a real competitive advantage, and why he was still targeting 100 prospecting conversations a week. We also covered New York development, assemblages and air rights, office-to-residential conversions, social media, AI in brokerage, and why Bob believed the individual broker mattered more than the logo on the business card. For brokers, investors, developers, and anyone building a career in CRE, this remained one of the most practical conversations we’ve had on No Cap. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Introduction 3:00 - Bob’s Journey in Real Estate 7:30 - The Importance of Market Knowledge 12:00 - How to Stay on Top in a Competitive Market 15:45 - Building a Legacy in Investment Sales 20:30 - The Role of Social Media in Real Estate 25:00 - What Sets New York’s Real Estate Market Apart 30:00 - Current Trends and the Future of the Market 35:00 - Advice for Aspiring Brokers and Real Estate Professionals 40:00 - The Power of Specialization and Expertise If you enjoyed this conversation, don't forget to LIKE, COMMENT, and SUBSCRIBE for more deep dives into commercial real estate.  More Episodes: For more episodes of No Cap Podcast by CRE Daily, visit our podcast page:  https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Get Smarter About What Matters Join 65,000+ industry leaders getting the latest market insights and trends delivered straight to their inbox. Sign up for the CRE Daily Newsletter today!   https://www.credaily.com/newsletter-s... About No Cap Podcast No Cap by CRE Daily offers an unfiltered look into commercial real estate's biggest trends and the financial dynamics shaping the industry. Co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential figures in real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily empowers professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter business decisions. Our flagship newsletter, read by over 65,000 investors, developers, brokers, and industry leaders, delivers concise, need-to-know trends, making us one of the fastest-growing media brands in commercial real estate. Podcast: https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Facebook: / credaily Instagram: / thecredaily TikTok: / thecredaily X (Twitter): / thecredaily
Season 9, Episode 6: Todd Henderson has invested through five real estate cycles, and he thinks the one we're leaving set up the healthiest recovery he's seen. Henderson is Head of Real Estate for the Americas at DWS, Deutsche Bank's asset management arm, whose real estate business traces back to RREEF's founding in 1975. He began his career in the bad bank at First Gibraltar during the S&L crisis, spent a decade buying distressed loans at The J.E. Robert Company, and joined DWS in 2003. The tension worth tuning in for: values fell roughly 25% while property fundamentals held up, which Henderson says leaves real estate cheap relative to equities, gold, and private credit just as new supply dries up. Shoutout to our sponsor, WareSpace — turning underused industrial, flex, office, and big-box properties into micro warehouse space for small businesses. CHAPTERS 00:00 - Todd Henderson and the History of DWS and RREEF 05:49 - Starting in Real Estate During the S&L Crisis 11:38 - Five CRE Cycles and the 25% Value Reset 16:58 - Why Institutional Capital Is Coming Back 21:09 - Private Credit and Real Estate Debt 24:13 - Why DWS Is Buying Sun Belt Multifamily 29:49 - Build-to-Rent and the Housing Shortage 32:35 - Why Grocery-Anchored Retail Keeps Winning 36:38 - Real Estate as the AI Immunity Trade 40:04 - What Past Cycles Say About the Next CRE Run For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
Season 9, Episode 5: Sean Hehir has spent nearly three decades turning Trinity Investments into a specialist hospitality investor, and he joins the show to explain why his firm only buys resorts it considers truly irreplaceable. Hehir grew up in Botswana, trained at hotel school in Switzerland and Cornell, and joined Trinity in 1998 before taking over as CEO in 2009 and steering the firm to focus solely on hospitality real estate. He now oversees a portfolio built with Hilton, Marriott, and Hyatt, and with mega private equity funds that lean on Trinity's hospitality expertise. The tension worth tuning in for: Trinity has walked away from cap-rate arbitrage and ultra-luxury boutiques alike, betting instead that scale, counterparty discipline, and genuinely irreplaceable real estate are what hold up when the market throws a curveball — which, as Hehir tells it, happens on nearly every deal. This episode was recorded on 7/21/26. Views, market conditions, and any figures or references discussed may have changed since recording and may not reflect current conditions at the time of release. Nothing in this podcast should be construed as investment, legal, or tax advice. Nothing in this episode is an offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy, any security or any interest in any fund or investment vehicle. Shoutout to our sponsor, WareSpace — turning underused industrial, flex, office, and big-box properties into micro warehouse space for small businesses. CHAPTERS 00:00 - Introduction to Sean Hehir and Trinity Investments 04:14 - Why Hospitality Is Different From Other Real Estate 08:16 - Learning Hotels From the Ownership Side 13:38 - East Miami, Swire, and the Blackstone Exit 19:15 - Buying and Renovating The Diplomat Beach Resort 24:04 - Hotel Amenities That Actually Matter 29:04 - Why Nobody Is Building These Resorts Anymore 33:17 - The JW Marriott Marco Island Deal 39:04 - Picking Partners, Brands, and Lenders 44:10 - Why Trinity Likes Four-Star Resort Assets For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/   DISCLAIMER: Nothing in this episode is an offer to sell, or a solicitation of an offer to buy, any security or any interest in any fund or investment vehicle. Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily  CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.
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