Season 4, Episode 1:

We’re back with a brand-new season of No Cap — and we’re starting big. Jack Stone and Alex Gornik sit down with Owen Thomas, CEO of BXP and the largest office landlord in the United States, to launch Season 4 in style.



From a Virginia dairy farm to Morgan Stanley, Lehman Brothers, and now leading the country’s largest office landlord, Owen shares the pivotal moments that shaped his career. He discusses succeeding Mort Zuckerman at BXP, the evolution of office demand, work-from-home and hybrid dynamics, BXP’s 343 Madison project, and how AI may reshape the future of office space.



TOPICS



00:10 – Introduction

01:00 – From Virginia roots to Morgan Stanley Real Estate

04:33 – Leading in Asia and the 2008 financial crisis

06:15 – Lehman Brothers board and the largest bankruptcy in history

14:36 – Rise of REITs and capital markets

15:42 – Taking over as CEO of BXP and succeeding Mort Zuckerman

21:05 – Office demand, work-from-home, and hybrid dynamics

30:00 – Gateway markets, regional differences, and 343 Madison

41:00 – Development challenges and suburban vs. urban performance

47:32 – AI’s impact, leadership lessons, and the future of BXP





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