Concepts with Shawn Whatley

We return to a persistent challenge for conservatives. What do we do with intellectuals? Can politicians trust them? What role, if any, do intellectuals play in conservative politics? Dr. Ferenc Hörcher argues that intellectuals have a different job than politicians, but each can benefit from the other. In the ideal case, intellectuals avoid telling politicians what do, and politicians foster an appetite for intellectual discourse.  We return to a discussion about Intellectual Conservatism: From Burke to Scruton, a book he co-edited with Daniel Pitt. It's priced as an academic book, but anyone interested in political thought and history would benefit from it. Ferenc displays the best of what it means to be an intellectual conservative: openness, generosity, humour, breadth of interest, nuance, and much more.  Looking forward to hearing what you think! Thanks again, Shawn Chapters and AI summary Host Shawn Whatley welcomes back Dr. Ferenc Hörcher, head of the Research Institute for Politics and Government at Ludovika University of Public Service in Hungary and senior research fellow at the Institute of Philosophy of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, to discuss Intellectual Conservatism: From Burke to Scruton, a book he co-edited with Daniel Pitt. Hörcher explains why political conservatives often fear intellectuals, citing 20th-century examples of intellectuals introducing destructive ideas into politics, but argues for a division of labor: politicians govern while intellectual conservatives think about politics and provide long-term perspective. The conversation emphasizes the book’s practical focus and its intellectual-historical narrative of Anglo-American conservatism, and Hörcher argues conservatives need not fear classical liberalism, since Anglo-American conservatism reacts to liberalism while retaining respect for its core achievements such as individual liberty and constitutional traditions. Drawing on his experience growing up in communist Hungary and gaining freedom in 1990, Hörcher says he values the West’s non-communist traditions—including liberalism, Christian democracy, and democratic socialism—and rejects culture-war framing in favor of prudential problem-solving on issues like education, migration, climate, and demography. They discuss Oakeshott’s critique of rationalist planning and the post-liberal debate (including British political theology strands and American figures like Patrick Deneen and Adrian Vermeule), with Hörcher expressing doubts about post-liberalism as a political solution while affirming liberal institutional achievements such as rule of law, free speech, and academic freedom. Hörcher distinguishes liberal and conservative individualism by stressing community, responsibility, and the fragility of freedom; he connects property ownership and markets to moral formation, describing Thatcher’s project as moral rather than merely economic and arguing market exchange is inherently personal and bound up with dignity, trust, and responsibility. In closing, Hörcher says politics must be approached with awareness of human mortality and highlights Roger Scruton’s later emphasis on “oikophilia,” love of home, urging civic participation, care for local communities, and sustaining Western culture through civility. 00:00 Are Conservatives Afraid of Intellectuals? (Cold Open) 00:38 Meet Dr. Ferenc Hörcher + What This Episode Covers 04:29 Host’s Big Question: Is Conservatism ‘For’ or ‘Against’ Things? 06:35 Why ‘Intellectual Conservatism’ Matters: Division of Labor with Politicians 11:20 Why Leaders Should Read: Long-Term Perspective vs. Media Politics 15:50 Conservatism & Liberalism as Shared Anglo-American Political Culture 17:55 Coalitions, the ‘Non-Left,’ and the Postliberal Challenge 20:30 Hörcher’s Central European Lens: Freedom After Communism 26:47 Pivot to Oakeshott: Rationalism, Planning, and Political Opponents 31:18 When Liberalism Shifts: Utopianism, Equality, and the Return of ‘Planners’ 34:34 Philip Blond on Universalism: Liberalism as the West’s New ‘Universal’ 35:55 Post-Liberalism as Political Theology: Faith, Secularism, and Liberalism’s Roots 39:23 Is John Gray a Post-Liberal? Zigzags, British vs. American Currents, and a New Wave of Books 42:27 What Post-Liberals Actually Critique: Defending Liberal Institutions While Reviving Virtue 48:30 Conservative vs. Liberal Individualism: Community, Fragility of Freedom, and Responsibility 55:48 Property, Markets, and Moral Formation: Thatcher, the Middle Class, and Stewardship Across Generations 01:04:50 Dignity, Trust, and Exchange: From Healthcare to Why Humans Aren’t Machines (or AI) 01:10:23 Final Reflection: Mortality, Scruton’s ‘Oikophilia,’ and Civility Through Local Participation

Franco Terrazzano knows taxes. As Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, he's the one in front of media calling on government for accountability on tax spending. But behind the pizzaz lies a deep thinker. Franco loves the nerdy arguments buried in books few people read. They inform his tirades on social media. So don't be fooled, he's not just a talking head. I kept trying to pull our discussion into the ideas behind the nonsense. However, Franco's outrageous examples of waste make ideas seem irrelevant. How can we even get to a theoretical discussion given so many examples of taxation lunacy?  Be sure to check out The Canadian Taxpayers Federation and Franco's new book: Axing the Tax-The rise and fall of Canada's carbon tax.  Chapters and AI summary: Unveiling the Hidden Costs: A Deep Dive into Canadian Taxes with Franco Terrazzano In this episode of Concepts with Shawn Whatley, Franco Terrazzano, the director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and author of 'Axing the Tax,' delves into the intricate world of Canadian taxation. Terrazzano discusses why taxes are a significant issue for the average Canadian family, far beyond just the financial burden. The conversation touches on wasteful government spending, the philosophy behind taxation, and the accountability (or lack thereof) in how tax dollars are spent. Together, they explore examples of extravagant expenditures by the government, the role of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, potential tax reforms, and the deeper ideological considerations behind tax policies. The episode also offers insights into the broader implications of government intervention in various sectors, emphasizing the need for prudence and accountability. 00:00 Introduction: The Importance of Taxes 00:17 Meet Franco Terrazzano: Tax Expert and Advocate 02:25 Highlighting Government Waste 05:19 The Role and Achievements of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation 08:13 Debating the Nature of Taxation 13:04 Government Spending and Accountability 15:13 Historical Context and Current Challenges 23:39 Legal Battles and Victories 26:09 Philosophical Underpinnings and Influences 29:14 Introduction to Professor Flanagan and Canadian Taxpayers Federation 30:41 Balancing Seriousness with Humor in Advocacy 32:50 Healthcare and Government Spending Issues 37:01 Central Planning and Economic Policies 40:10 Taxation and Government Accountability 52:36 Personal Reflections and Final Thoughts

Barry Bussey has spent decades thinking about freedom and working around the legal edges of it. Most people don't think about freedom until it's compromised. Barry thinks about it all the time. Canada has led the world as a test case on the limits of freedom with our MAiD (euthanasia) legislation, approach to COVID, and the Emergency Measure's Act. These are complex legal issues. I always learn something when I talk with Barry. Let me know what you think of this episode! Thanks again for listening. Shawn 210 degrees Celsius: 16 ways the truckers ignited Canada for the long haul First Freedoms Foundation   Chapters and AI summary: Essential Conversations on Freedom and its Limits with Barry Bussey In this enlightening episode, host Shawn Whatley welcomes Barry Bussey, a prominent lawyer and founder of the First Freedoms Foundation, to discuss the intricacies of freedom and its limits. The dialogue spans a broad array of topics, including the role of courts and legislatures in determining freedoms, the history and influence of Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and the impact of governmental and bureaucratic decisions on personal liberties. Barry shares insights from his recent book on the Freedom Convoy of 2022, reflecting on the societal implications of enforced mandates and the essential freedoms of speech, religion, and personal security. They also delve into the philosophical foundations of freedom, trace its historical evolution, and discuss potential future threats, including the rise of artificial intelligence and digital control. This episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in the delicate balance between freedom and governance. 00:00 Introduction: Exploring the Limits of Freedom 00:48 Historical Context and Legal Foundations 01:14 Meet Barry Bussey: Advocate for Freedom 03:12 Founding the First Freedoms Foundation 07:56 Challenges and Achievements of the Foundation 13:30 The Role of Judges and Legislatures in Defining Freedom 24:05 The Charter and Its Implications 30:17 The Common Law Tradition and Human Rights 36:29 The Power of Courts and Euthanasia Debate 38:30 Judicial Oversight and Executive Power 41:09 The Emergencies Act and Government Authority 44:49 The Role of Bureaucracy and Executive Decisions 46:14 Introducing the Book: 210 Degrees Celsius 48:27 The Trucker Convoy and Government Mandates 54:15 Reflections on the COVID-19 Pandemic 58:19 Concerns About Artificial Intelligence and Future Freedoms 01:04:19 The Importance of Physical Books in the Digital Age

Barbara Kay has written professionally about issues on the non left since the 1960s. We might want to say she had a 'front-row seat', but that would be wrong. Her writing went beyond simple observation. She helped shape conservative opinion in Canada for half a century. Barb wrote a piece on Norman Podhoretz, when he passed in December. She mentions reading everything he had ever written: books and articles; editorials in his role as senior editor of Commentary Magazine, everything. Podhoretz was one of the brilliant Jews from New York who left the 1960's liberalism and discovered conservatism. Irving Kristol, the 'godfather of neoconservatism', said neoconservatives were "liberals who have been mugged by reality." Of course, most neocons weren't Jews; they included a broad swath of Catholic and Protestant thinkers. But the Jews stood out, in part, because they brought their bellicose, New York attitude into right-wing politics. They applied revolutionary zeal from their former communist and Trotskyite experience to conservatism. They transformed the old conservatism of the American Republican party into something new in North America: neoconservatism. After the Iraq war, neoconservatism became a term of derision. It became re-interpreted as nothing but a blend of zionism -- Christian and Jewish -- with hawkish foreign policy.  This redefinition was a profound mistake. It dismisses a whole political mindset, while at the same time shielding it from serious discussion. Like so many other words silenced by political correctness, neoconservatism can no longer be critiqued for its strengths and weaknesses. We need to celebrate the brilliance of Podhoretz and Irving Kristol, while also critiquing where neoconservatism failed. Neoconservative thought remains a central part, perhaps even the embodiment, of modern political conservative opinion. If we want to understand how best to apply conservatism to current issues, we need to dig deep into the neocon mindset. Please let me know what you think! Barbara Kay: 60 years ago, Norman Podhoretz's writing led me to conservatism   AI Summary  In this episode, Shawn Whatley engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Barbara Kay, a renowned columnist and author. They delve into the origins, evolution, and nuances of neoconservatism, exploring the influential works of Norman Podhoretz and Irving Kristol. Barbara shares her insights on conservatism, its philosophical underpinnings, and its enduring relevance in today's political landscape. They also touch on various contentious issues such as the limitations of human nature, the impact of anti-Americanism, and the evolution of liberalism. Tune in for a deep dive into the intellectual journey that shapes conservative thought. 00:00 Introduction to Neoconservatism 00:09 Defining Conservatism and Classical Liberalism 01:32 Meet Barbara Kay 01:40 Norman Podhoretz: A Legacy in Neoconservatism 02:10 The Jewish Connection to Neoconservatism 02:54 Barbara Kay's Tribute to Norman Podhoretz 05:27 Podhoretz's Intellectual Journey 07:32 The Role of Intellectuals in Conservatism 10:14 Neoconservatism and Universalism 17:32 The Balance Between Universalism and Particularism 32:02 The Importance of Moral Clarity 36:54 Modern Neoconservatism and Its Challenges 39:10 The Banality of Evil and Rationalization 40:29 Calvinism and the Rejection of Scholasticism 41:38 Jewish Perspectives on Evil 43:01 Conservatism and Human Nature 48:38 Neoconservatism and Its Critiques 01:06:04 The Role of Education in Society 01:10:18 Concluding Thoughts on Conservatism and Hope

Prime Minister Mark Carney's Davos speech made liberals swoon and conservatives nod in admiration. Are the accolades warranted? Or are we being fooled by eloquence? I couldn't resist recording something about The Speech. In this episode I offer three big points: 1. Carney appears to use a sycophantic foreign policy strategy. Is it rational? Will it work? 2. Carney appropriates brilliance to serve his own ends. Is that fair or justified? 3. The speech itself is confused. Do the speech writers understand how liberalism and marxism are both siblings of the Enlightenment? Canada is in a better place with a more intelligent, less narcissistic leader. However, we should worry when our PM strikes alliances with a sworn enemy of our closest neighbour. Let me know what you think! Cheers   My Patreon   AI summary and chapters:   In this episode of Concepts, Shawn Whatley critically examines Mark Carney's recent speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Whatley highlights Carney's inconsistent foreign policy positions, eloquence devoid of genuine understanding, and a fundamental confusion born out of Enlightenment principles. Through three main points—Carney's sycophantic behavior, the content, and the inherent contradictions in his speech—Whatley unpacks why Carney's approach is problematic. Join the conversation and explore the complexities behind Carney's ideas and their implications. 00:00 Introduction and Overview 00:34 Foreign Policy Critique 03:00 Analyzing the Speech 05:44 Fundamental Confusion and Enlightenment 11:28 Conclusion and Call to Action

Cole Hogan is a political strategist who played key roles in the elections of Premier Doug Ford and Premier Jason Kenney. He's a student of Canadian politics past and present and frequent pundit on major media outlets in Canada. Cole explains how Pierre Elliott Trudeau focussed on reshaping Canada. Economic issues seemed to bore him. PE Trudeau reshaped the Canadian constitution in his own image in the 1980s. Conservatives have been off balance ever since. Having lost ceded the platform to Trudeau's priors, conservatives have tried to argue within the framework Trudeau built.  A new, younger batch of conservatives want to change the framework. They are tired of losing by rules set by the opposing team. They want to play offence.  Cole explains how the New Right wants conservatives to win on culture, national identity, and social concerns, not just pocket-book issues. He calls younger voters to get involved. "Participation is a solution in itself," he says. Whether you agree with Hogan or not, you have to admit conservatism is changing shape in Canada. Fascinating to see what emerges! Check out Cole's articles and website below. And remember, Patreon members get to see the content a bit early. I respond to comments there first. (Everything is free, but you need to subscribe). Thanks for checking this out! Shawn   If conservatives shun Canada’s institutions, how can we possibly reform them? Red Tory? Blue Liberal? These terms mean nothing anymore The right can no longer hide from Pierre Trudeau's legacy   ColeHogan.ca   Summary + Chapters (AI) Dive into the world of Canadian politics with Shawn Whatley and guest Cole Hogan, a political strategist and communications expert. This episode explores the lasting impact of Pierre Elliot Trudeau on Canada's identity, the challenges faced by the conservative movement, and the necessity of engaging with national institutions. Learn about the significance of participation in politics and the evolving landscape of Canadian conservatism. Discover why young Canadians are crucial to shaping the future and how the conservative movement can navigate contemporary social and cultural issues, shedding light on the importance of being involved and informed. 00:00 Introduction to Pierre Elliot Trudeau's Impact on Canadian Politics 00:21 Guest Introduction: Cole Hogan 00:33 The Conservative Movement and Trudeau's Legacy 01:51 The Right's Shift in Focus: From Economics to Social Issues 03:22 The Charter of Rights and Freedoms: A Defining Document 04:40 Conservative Strategies and Historical Context 10:43 The Role of Canadian Institutions and Young Conservatives 19:21 Challenges and Opportunities for Young Conservatives 23:24 Encouraging Civic Participation 27:28 Getting Involved in Civic Committees 29:41 Conservative Perspectives on Policy 30:41 Challenges of Federal Programs 32:10 Humility in Policy Making 35:50 The Role of Opposition in Governance 40:05 Red Tory vs. Blue Tory 44:19 Engaging the Public in Politics 50:28 The Impact of the Pandemic on Trust in Government

JJ McCullough offers a window into Canada. JJ keeps his 1 million followers front of mind. He speaks so they will understand. He focusses on what matters to them. In that sense, JJ is a better politician than many politicians: he never forgets his constituency. Don't be fooled by JJ's high-energy, youthful style. He puts a ton of research into his videos.  The non left needs to pay attention when JJ speaks. You don't have to agree with him! In fact, JJ makes of point of raising things that will provoke discussion and (some) disagreement. He's the guy at the parade shouting about the Emperor's clothes. JJ has strong opinions on the monarchy. His comments about the governor general were especially good, I thought. He didn't convince me that we should abandon the monarchy in Canada, but he did make me think. What I appreciate most about JJ is his willingness to have a conversation.    JJ's YouTube Channel  Canada's Constitution is Weird   AI summary: Join Shawn Whatley and popular YouTuber JJ McCullough as they tackle the controversial topic of the monarchy's relevance in Canada. JJ shares his strong opinions on the monarchy, arguing that it has long been irrelevant to most Canadians, including conservatives. They explore the role of the Governor General, the monarchy's symbolic nature, and its political implications. In addition to the monarchy debate, the discussion spans various cultural and political issues, including American interventionism, immigration, and the complexities of gender and identity politics. With JJ's energetic communication style and deep research, this episode promises to be both thought-provoking and engaging. Don't miss out on this intellectual exchange—hit like and subscribe! 00:00 Introduction: The Relevance of the Monarchy in Canada 00:25 Meet JJ McCullough: YouTuber and Political Pundit 02:01 Debating the Monarchy's Role in Canada 04:55 The Symbolism and Perception of the Monarchy 09:44 The Governor General's Role and Public Perception 16:00 Comparing Canadian and American Views on Monarchy 21:13 The Future of the Monarchy in Canada 25:59 Pivot to Global Politics: Venezuela and Trump 32:29 Defining Conservatism vs. Right-Wing Politics 33:02 Trump's Foreign Policy and American Power 35:32 Liberal Media and Trump's Stance on Ukraine 36:57 Domestic Politics Influencing Foreign Policy 43:12 Cultural Debates: Neutrality vs. Activism 49:50 Advice for the Conservative Party 58:22 Trans Rights and Political Challenges 01:02:19 Concerns About Anti-Americanism in Canada 01:05:03 Final Thoughts and Appreciations

This episode was a breakthrough for me. Conservatism is the mediation between the universal and the particular. I know this sounds nerdy, but I think this is an essential challenge that thinkers on the non-left must work through. We believe that some truths are true everywhere, all the time, but that does not that mean, as liberalism asserts, that truth is true everywhere all the time in all places. Are there truths that are only true in a particular place and time? Does it make us relativist post-moderns to entertain such heresy? Using Dr. Geddert's notion of 'mediation between the universal and particular', conservatism offers a path to sanity between the two extremes. I hope you find this episode as helpful as I did. Yes, we have some truths that are universal, for example, humans have inherent dignity wherever we find them. AND we have some truths that are particular, for example, common law works well in the Anglosphere, but we shouldn't expect it to work well in other places. I hope you find this episode as useful as I did! Please let me know what you think. Thanks again for tuning in! Shawn   Article: Liberty without liberalism    AI summary:   In this episode of Concepts, host Shawn Whatley discusses the tension between universalism and particularism in politics with guest Jeremy Geddert, an associate professor of political science. Geddert explains how conservatism uniquely mediates between these two extremes, avoiding the pitfalls of both left and right liberalism as well as Schmidttian Postmodernism. They explore themes such as the historical roots of Canadian and American political philosophies, the concept of political technology, the role of virtue in politics, and the importance of acknowledging our inherited traditions. Geddert also highlights insights from his upcoming article 'Liberty Without Liberalism' and shares his views on the influence of enlightenment liberalism and modernity. This episode provides a deep dive into the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism, offering valuable perspectives on contemporary political debates. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and support on Patreon! 00:00 Introduction: The Universal vs. The Particular in Politics 01:04 Guest Introduction: Meet Jeremy Geddert 01:50 Exploring Universalism and Particularism 05:07 Historical Context: American and Canadian Liberalism 10:36 The Role of Religion in Early Colonies 15:59 Modernity and Political Technology 28:06 The Evolution of Liberty and Liberalism 34:07 The Role of Love and Tradition in National Identity 35:04 The Link Between Efficiency and Dignity 39:49 Critique of Modern Liberalism 44:07 The Waves of Modernity and Their Impact 48:54 Conservatism as a Mediator Between Universal and Particular 55:36 The Importance of Metaphysics and Theology 01:00:12 Revelation and Human Connection 01:05:02 Concerns and Hopes for the Future

What's wrong with Canada, and what can we expect to happen next? David Leis has spent decades in Canadian politics, and he's worried. Canada is in decline. We need leadership to change course, not simply a change in government. He packages his concern in terms of data, comparisons with other countries, and political argument. As President and CEO of the Frontier Centre for Public Policy, he has a ton of evidence to draw upon. But his concern springs from a deep love for Canada. It generates an urgency that breaks through, as it did in this episode around the half-way mark. David gives me hope. He's one of many Canadians on the non-left who believe Canada could be so much better. Life doesn't need to be this hard. I'd love to hear what you think of the episode! And in case you missed it, I post this content early on my Patreon account (free).    AI summary:   In this episode of Concepts, Shawn Whatley is joined by David Leis, President and CEO of the Frontier Center for Public Policy, to discuss the current socio-economic and cultural issues facing Canada. They explore how radical leftist ideologies have infiltrated Canadian institutions and the resulting decline in societal and economic stability. David Leis delves into the importance of empowering citizens through education reform, fostering market competition, and ensuring government accountability. The conversation stresses the urgency for renewed leadership and a return to foundational principles to avert further decline. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on the future of Canada and practical solutions for a national revival. 00:00 Introduction: The Crisis in Canada 00:51 Meet David Leis: Background and Expertise 01:18 The Urgency of Canada's Situation 03:19 Defining Decline and Leadership 07:36 The Role of Government and Citizens 14:17 Cultural Foundations and Civic Education 17:54 Challenges and Solutions for Canada's Future 30:34 The Stakes of Institutional Capture 31:33 Challenges in Education Reform 32:30 Innovative Education Models 35:07 Economic Decline and Urgency for Change 37:03 The Canadian Wheat Board and Agricultural Renaissance 38:16 Crown Corporations and Productivity Issues 41:12 Balancing Free Enterprise and Culture 44:01 Call for Leadership and National Renewal

Does it makes sense to maximize liberty in the economy and yet limit it at a personal level? Is it even possible? Alex MacDonald says it doesn't make sense. We never make economics the ultimate priority for family decisions, why do we think it's ok to prioritize economy at a national level? This discussion gets to the heart of debate within the conservative movement. Of course, we need a strong economy. But should economic concerns always trump all other issues? Is money our ultimate social good? Alex offers solid answers; ones we don't usually hear from those on the non-left.  Equally fascinating for me was the fact that Alex is sharing answers at all. For the last several decades, staffers and consultants have kept quiet about culture. Conservatives win on the economy, so we should focus conversation on the economy. Don't mention culture, if you want to be included in policy discussions. Today, culture is back. Canadians are tired of being told their country is rotten, its founding is illegitimate, and perhaps it isn't even a nation at all. It's just a post-national state. Voters don't want to see people burning Canadian flags and blocking streets with smoke-filled protests. It will be fascinating to see how Conservative leaders respond to this palpable change in public discourse.   Articles mentioned: In doubt of fusionism The King and love of country   AI summary: Shawn Whatley welcomes public policy and government relations expert Alex MacDonald to discuss the juxtaposition of economic liberty and social tradition. They delve into the principles of fusionism, balancing market efficiency with moral and social values, and the relevance of the monarchy in contemporary Canada. Through their engaging dialogue, they explore how these foundational ideas shape our communal life and public policy, drawing on historical context, philosophical insights, and current political debates. Don't miss this thought-provoking episode filled with deep reflections on the core values guiding our society. 00:00 Introduction: Balancing Liberty in Economy and Personal Life 00:54 Meet the Guest: Alex MacDonald 01:26 Exploring Fusionism in Politics 02:39 Debating Economic Liberty vs. Social Continuity 04:18 Fusionism: A Deeper Dive 19:01 Healthcare and Libertarianism 21:57 Conservatism and Market Forces 31:36 Philosophical Reflections on Conservatism 37:12 Philosophical Concerns About Fusion 37:34 Market Efficiency vs. Moral Life 39:32 Moral Decay and Individualism 41:27 The Irony of Side Hustle Culture 48:05 Autonomy vs. Freedom 56:46 The Role of the Monarchy in Canada 01:10:56 Concerns for Future Generations

Christmas greetings plus one big idea. Why read? Better yet, why buy books you will never be able to read? Don't overestimate what you know. Building a personal library of more books that you can ever read will remind you of how much you do not know. It creates a presence in your home of intentional ignorance. I got the idea from this article: Umberto Eco's Anti-Library  Thank you so much to my audience and guests! It has been far more fun and informative than I expected. Wishing you all the best for Christmas and the New Year! Shawn AI summary: In this Christmas special, Shawn Whatley delves into the concept of 'Intentional Ignorance,' inspired by Umberto Eco’s extensive library, to emphasize humility in the pursuit of knowledge. He also reflects on the true meaning of Christmas, including the proper way to receive gifts with gratitude, and the importance of being honest about our inherited cultural attachments. Join the conversation as Shawn intertwines philosophical insights with personal anecdotes to celebrate the Christmas season meaningfully. 00:00 Christmas Greetings and Introduction 00:15 Exploring the Concept of Intentional Ignorance 01:34 The Quest for Certainty and Its Pitfalls 03:33 Connecting Knowledge and Humility 05:42 Embracing Christmas Traditions 06:38 The True Meaning of Christmas Gifts 08:44 Approaches to Receiving Gifts 09:33 Reflections on Gift Giving and Receiving 14:01 Podcast Reflections and Future Plans 15:19 Final Christmas Wishes

Many of our most popular ideas today are medieval. We are all, in some way, medieval thinkers. Dr. Michael Bonner applies his experience as a historian and political consultant to the current crisis of liberalism. He explains what's going on by reaching back several thousand years. Although this episode is heavy, his book is highly readable. He covers 2000 years of history in 200 pages. It helps if you know the people he references, but even if you don't, you can follow along. Great writer. Books: The Crisis of Liberalism: The Origin and Destiny of Freedom In Defense of Civilization: How Our Past Can Renew Our Present   Looking forward to hearing what you think. Thanks again!     AI Summary In this episode of Concepts with Shawn Whatley, historian Dr. Michael Bonner discusses his latest book, 'The Crisis of Liberalism: The Origin and Destiny of Freedom.' Delving into 2000 years of history, Bonner explores the roots and future of liberalism, highlighting its medieval origins and the inherent challenges it faces today. They question whether contemporary liberalism can offer meaning and community, touching on topics like personal freedom, historical continuity, and the secularization of Christian values. Tune in to learn how these complex ideas affect our society and where we might go from here. 00:00 Introduction: The Crisis of Liberalism 00:57 Meet Dr. Michael Bonner 01:11 Overview of 'The Crisis of Liberalism' 01:45 Historical Context and Liberalism 02:39 Defining Liberalism and Its Challenges 04:54 Philosophical Foundations of Liberalism 11:23 Medieval Roots of Modern Liberalism 13:28 The Evolution of Liberal Thought 33:33 Hegelian View of History and Liberalism 34:36 Challenging the Liberal Establishment 35:04 Medieval Ideas in Modern Times 35:30 The Axioms of Liberalism 37:15 The Self-Evident Truths 39:08 The Evolution of Christian Thought 44:44 The Paradoxes of Liberalism 54:19 The Religion of Humanity 01:03:54 The Future of Liberalism 01:06:09 Concluding Thoughts

I'm trying something new: this is a lightly edited transcript from the start of the episode: Thanks for listening! Shawn: What do young people want these days? Do they want total unfettered freedom or do they want to be challenged? Check it out. Kate: This is what I love talking about with young people, because they are ready to rise to this challenge, right? Young people want to be challenged. They want to do things that instil order, they want to go to the symphony and know that there are rules and you don't clap between movements and you should have printed program notes and that it's gonna be programmed in a certain way. Shawn: Welcome to Concepts. My name is Shawn Whatley. Today we have Kate Marland with us. Kate has a fascinating education. She started out in the fine arts, getting a Bachelor of music, studying viola, at Ottawa and McGill. From there, she went on and did a Master's of Arts in fashion studies at Ryerson with a focus on the opera. Then she went on and became a lawyer, and she's worked as a lawyer for some time. And then she worked in management. She was the recent manager of the Liberty and Leadership program at the Montreal Economic Institute, and most recently, she's become a contributing editor at the new, media Outlet Without Diminishment on Substack. She has brought together her background in the fine arts or high culture, as she calls it, and is applying it to today's moment, and right now she finds that especially young people aren't so happy with this life that seems to say, “Leave home, go to school, get a great degree, go get a great job. Live in a box in a large city and make sure you earn lots of money and pay lots of taxes and keep the economy going.” She said, young people are finding that that's not a great life and there's more to life than that. And the exciting thing about it, or the challenging thing about it is. She and others with her at Without Diminishment are saying not only are we finding that this life is empty and that we need more, but they're also finding that there's a role for government in all this. So a simple change in tax policy can completely diminish a particular culture, whether it's high arts, symphony, et cetera. And Kate's message here is that Conservatives need to pay a whole lot more attention to preservation of high culture. And again, her background is, uh, music symphony. So our discussion ranged across the tension between an economic liberalism or libertarianism. We talked about how experience shapes our aesthetic sense. And we talked about Without Diminishment itself and what they're trying to achieve there and whether or not it's wise to have government impose itself in a way that impacts culture We talked about the recent couple episodes we've had with, Anthony Koch and Sean Speer, and their ongoing discussion about culture being a central objective for government to fulfill and protect and foster. Overall a fascinating discussion. Kate is really pouring herself into studying and developing thoughts in this space on culture beyond simply economics. And what role does government have to play? In fostering an environment in which culture can flourish. Anyways, fascinating discussion. I hope you enjoyed as much as I did. Don't forget to hit like and subscribe. It really makes a big difference. I try not to bug you about it, but let's get on with the show.   AI Summary:   In this episode of Concepts, host Shawn Whatley delves deep into what young people really want today with guest Kate Marland. With a rich background in music, fashion, and law, Marland discusses the need for conservatives to embrace and preserve high culture, such as opera and symphony, to foster a spiritually fulfilling society. The episode covers topics such as the intersection of economics and aesthetics, the limitations of libertarianism, and how government policies impact culture. The conversation also ventures into the role of institutions like Without Diminishment and the Montreal Economic Institute in shaping a future that values beauty, tradition, and community. Ideal for anyone keen on exploring how cultural pursuits and economic policies can coexist in a meaningful way. 00:00 Introduction: What Do Young People Want? 00:33 Meet Kate Marland: A Diverse Background 01:17 Kate's Journey and Insights on Culture 01:52 The Role of Government in Culture 03:52 Discussion on Kate's Article 07:56 Balancing Libertarianism and Cultural Appreciation 19:10 Challenges and Value of High Culture 31:17 The Conservative Dilemma: No Perfect Result 32:18 The Malaise of Modern Society 33:16 The Disconnection of Young People 36:25 The Appeal of Tradition and High Culture 37:44 The Role of Government and Institutions in Culture 45:29 Without Diminishment: A New Approach 57:49 The Tension Between Capitalism and Human Value 01:01:19 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Here's the other half of the Koch-Speer debate. As usual, Sean Speer offers a nuanced response that seeks to learn at least as much as he hopes to inform. This whole conversation is essential for Canadians right now, conservatives especially. Its outcome determines the entire cant of the Conservative Party of Canada. Sean laid out his argument here also: Six reasons why a state-imposed conservative culture is a terrible idea.  Book mentioned: What Is Conservatism?: A New Edition of the Classic by 12 Leading Conservatives Thanks so much for checking this out!   AI summary: In this episode of Concepts, host Shawn Whatley welcomes back Sean Speer, lecturer at the Munk School of Public Policy and a senior fellow at the Public Policy Forum. They delve into the ongoing debate within Canadian conservatism: Is culture a product of will or inheritance? They explore the implications of this divide, the role of state neutrality, and what it means to be a conservative in Canada today. Drawing on historical context, personal experiences, and current issues, this conversation provides rich insights into the evolving conservative movement. Join them for a stimulating discussion on the nature of culture, politics, and society. 00:00 Introduction: Culture and Will vs. Inheritance 00:45 Meet Sean Speer: A Conservative Thought Leader 01:12 Debate on State Neutrality 03:10 Fusionism and Canadian Conservatism 04:24 Sean Speer's Journey and Reflections 05:26 Historical Context and Modern Conservatism 12:12 Institutional Neutrality: Myth or Reality? 20:37 Personal Reflections on Conservatism 35:12 Exploring Individual and Collective Purpose 36:31 The Role of the State in Society 36:39 Edmund Burke and Constitutionalism 38:40 Institutional Changes and Public Neutrality 42:41 Cultural Inheritance vs. Will 50:29 Historical Perspectives on Market Forces 54:58 The New Right and Intellectual Conservatism 01:01:04 Challenges of Pluralism and Trust in Government 01:09:01 Concluding Thoughts and Future Outlook

Anthony says conservatives don't understand politics. He argues in Without Diminishment that "The state is the architect of culture, not a spectator." Conservatives will keep losing until they realise that the must pick a side, when they form government. They cannot aim to simply manage the state. They need to shape it. This is a hot debate in Canada right now. Anthony says there is no such thing as a neutral institution. All institutions pick sides. It's impossible to avoid. Sean Speer takes the other side of the debate. We will post his episode on Thursday this week. Anthony and Sean are two of Canada's leading political thinkers. You don't want to miss this!   AI summary:   In this episode of Concepts, Shawn Whatley hosts Anthony Koch, a consultant, entrepreneur, and managing principal of AK Strategies. They delve into the ongoing intellectual debate with Sean Speer on whether the government should remain neutral on cultural issues or actively support and protect a distinct Canadian culture. They explore how deeply embedded visions of culture influence our institutions, including government agencies, universities, NGOs, and not-for-profit organizations. The discussion covers case studies such as recent BC elections, where cultural issues like drug policy, sex education, and refugee acceptance played significant roles. Anthony argues against the myth of neutrality, emphasizing that state institutions have never been neutral and always impact culture. He discusses the importance of a cohesive cultural identity, the challenges of multiculturalism, and the need for conservatives to articulate and implement a clear vision for Canada's future. The episode provides a fascinating and comprehensive analysis of the intersection between culture and politics, offering insights into how conservatives can reclaim cultural ground. 00:00 Introduction: Government's Role in Culture 00:45 Meet the Guest: Anthony Koch 01:26 Debate Overview: Government Neutrality in Culture 02:10 Anthony's Perspective on Cultural Influence 04:31 Historical Context: State and Culture 06:17 The Role of Education in National Identity 11:34 Conservative Strategies and Critiques 13:04 The Impact of Political Leadership 14:33 The Trudeau Legacy and Canadian Identity 16:35 Conservative Vision for Canada's Future 21:31 Judicial Influence and Political Conservatism 32:55 Healthcare Reform and Structural Change 36:01 Introduction to Failing Policy Philosophy 36:13 Infrastructure Argument in Immigration 37:02 Welfare State and Demographic Assumptions 38:08 Economic Contributions of Immigrants 39:24 Cultural Integration Challenges 43:28 Historical Context of Immigration 46:26 Modern Immigration and Cultural Identity 52:25 Political and Cultural Shifts in Canada 01:04:05 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

Matt Spoke builds communities, develops housing, creates start-up companies, serves on boards of directors, plans grass-roots political conferences, and raises a family. Matt embodies a conservative life.  I first met Matt at the Project Ontario conference he organized (with help from others) in Toronto. He speaks well, listens closely, and can carry a conversation as though you've known him forever. I admired his polish and walked away assuming he must be a management-consultant type: impressive, but too careful to say anything sharp. I was wrong. Matt wrote a piece for Without Diminishment titled The First Institution. "Cultural renewal begins not in an election, not in a campaign, but in the ordinary work of raising kids and holding families together." Fantastic presentation of real-life conservatism. We need more people like Matt; people who can bridge the gap between theory and practice. Ideas are essential, but we also need live them.  Thanks again for checking this out. Let me know what you think!   AI Summary:   In this episode of 'Concepts' with Shawn Whatley, board member of the Canada Strong and Free Network, Matt Spoke discusses his impactful work with Project Ontario. They delve into the framing of political conversations, the importance of building businesses, and policies to create a strong, economically vibrant Canada. Matt shares how his experience as an entrepreneur and father translates to his views on conservatism and societal improvement. The conversation touches on the challenges of integrating immigrants, fostering community trust, and the critical role of education in shaping future citizens. Join us for an insightful discussion on the conservative vision for Canada's future. 00:00 Introduction: Setting the Stage for Political Conversations 00:25 Meet Matt Spoke: Developer, Organizer, and Community Insider 02:46 Project Ontario: Addressing Ontario's Drift 06:35 Challenges and Opportunities in Ontario's Policy Landscape 09:24 Conservatism in Office vs. Out of Office 14:02 The Role of Naivety and Innovation in Politics 18:16 Family and Conservatism: A Personal Perspective 28:19 Building Community in an Urbanized Society 32:18 The Role of Trust in Building Community 32:47 Cultural Cohesion in Diverse Urban Areas 33:30 Immigration and Shared Canadian Identity 33:58 The Decline of Community Watch and Social Trust 34:26 Extending an Olive Branch to Newcomers 36:38 Challenges of Integration and Multiculturalism 38:07 The Importance of Shared Culture and Vision 42:41 The Role of Leadership in Fostering Culture 43:54 Economic Policy and Cultural Impact 52:13 The Value of Family and Optimism for the Future 01:00:15 Education's Role in Shaping Society 01:02:18 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Ben Woodfinden is a former director of communications for Pierre Poilievre. He has practical experience inside politics mixed with theoretical study and work as a consultant. When Ben speaks, people listen. Debate about first principles has finally returned to the Canadian non-left. A new, mostly younger group of conservative writers and speakers have challenged the status quo. Young people, especially, find that Canada does not work well. Home ownership is a fairytale. Safe cities are nostalgia. And Canadian patriotism is embarrassing and unkind. The new right refuses to accept these presuppositions. They want politicians who have a vested interest in celebrating Canada itself. What does this mean for conservative politics? How will this debate turn out? Ben Woodfinden makes sense of it all for us. Links: Still Lamenting? Canada, Grantian Conservatism in the Twenty-first Century, and the Paradoxes of Grant’s Conservatism Reading Grant in the 21st Century The new conservative fight isn't red vs. blue. It's young vs. old The Enduring Appeal of Red Toryism   AI Summary: The New Right and Red Toryism: A Deep Dive with Ben Woodfinden In this episode of Concepts, Shawn Whatley hosts Ben Woodfinden, a consultant, doctoral student, and political theorist, to discuss the dynamics of the new right in Canada. Ben, a prominent contributor to conservative circles, highlights the generational divide in conservatism, and explores whether the real issue is young versus old rather than red versus blue. The discussion delves into political philosophy, particularly focusing on Red Toryism, a distinct Canadian tradition combining status interventionism for conservative ends. Ben also touches on the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism, the importance of grounding politics in first principles, and the future of Canadian identity. This thought-provoking episode is a must-watch for anyone interested in the evolving landscape of Canadian conservatism. 00:00 Introduction: The New Right in Canada 00:27 Meet Ben Woodfinden: A Conservative Thought Leader 01:08 The New Conservative Fight: Young vs. Old 01:21 Diving into Red Toryism 01:55 Understanding the Conservative Movement 02:20 Ben Woodfinden's Insights on Conservatism 04:30 Generational Divides in Conservatism 08:55 Philosophical Foundations of Conservatism 09:46 The Role of Government and Human Nature 18:12 Classical Liberalism vs. Conservatism 27:03 Liberalism's Historical Context and Limits 30:18 Red Toryism and Human Nature 30:54 Exploring Different Perspectives on the State 31:49 Understanding Toryism and Red Toryism 32:46 The Evolution and Misinterpretation of Red Toryism 33:49 The Canadian Conservative Tradition 35:54 The Role of the State in Canadian Society 41:16 George Grant's Influence and Philosophy 43:00 Modern Reflections on Grant's Ideas 56:08 The Importance of Belief Systems in Modern Society 59:54 Concluding Thoughts on Canadian Identity

Canada cannot continue unless we share a common sense of what we love. In BC, young students learn from daily land acknowledgements that they can never really call Canada their own. It belongs to someone else. Students in Vancouver sing two national anthems, Canada’s and another belonging to coastal indigenous people. This goes beyond education and cultural awareness. These students learn to venerate indigenous nations to which they can never belong. New Canadians learn that Canada isn’t something to love and celebrate. It’s something shameful, something to repudiate. How long can Canada survive this continuous indoctrination? Dr. Caroline Elliott has spoken up with courage and grace. She presents as a thoughtful, concerned parent of young children, who also happens to be extremely well educated and researched in the fundamental principles of democracy. When you listen to Dr. Elliott, you will hear the heartbeat behind the Without Diminishment team. Thanks for checking this out!   AI summary: Join Shawn Whatley and Dr. Caroline Elliott as they explore the complex and pressing issues facing Canada today, from land acknowledgements in schools to indigenous land claims and the challenging dynamics of Canadian liberal democracy. Dr. Elliott, a PhD and co-founder of Without Diminishment, provides her insights on the evolving landscape of Canadian identity, the impact of progressive ideologies in education, and the importance of upholding democratic principles. This episode offers a thought-provoking conversation about the potential future of Canada, the integration of new Canadians, and what it means to be cohesive as a nation. Tune in for an engaging discussion that navigates the difficult terrain of heritage, legitimacy, and the principles that could hold Canada together. 00:00 Introduction: The Future of Canada 00:10 Land Acknowledgements in Schools 01:22 Interview with Dr. Caroline Elliott 01:49 Provocative Pieces in the National Post 03:23 Discussion on Democratic Principles 05:29 The Role of Without Diminishment 08:26 Cultural Identity and Western Values 22:31 Constitutional Challenges and Indigenous Governance 29:49 Reconciling Democratic Principles with Ancestry-Based Membership 30:04 Debate on Charter Application to Indigenous Governments 31:10 Indigenous Perspectives on Development and Community Impact 34:02 Complexities of Indigenous Governance and Public Interest 37:29 Political Interests and Indigenous Issues 40:45 Changing World and New Normals 45:25 Education and Cultural Integration Challenges 54:15 Concluding Thoughts on Canadian Identity and Inspiration

Want to be active in the public square? Join the symphony. Get involved in what you love. Be public about your pursuit of the true, the good, and the beautiful. Ray Pennings has spent his life building a winsome and articulate defence of religion in the pubic square. It is not weird to admit we have religious beliefs (including non belief); it's weird to pretend we do not have them. Canada and USA differ with respect to our approach to religion in the public square. We discuss the latest research from Cardus: a very large survey of over 10,000 people (5,001 in each country) on religiosity. It goes far beyond anything Stats Canada offers. Boomers continue to keep religion out of the public square and polite conversation. Gen Z increasingly does the opposite. Canada and USA are in the midst of a generational change in social thought and politics. Links: Cardus  How Canada-US religious differences affect politics  AI Summary: Join host Shawn Whatley as he sits down with Ray Pennings, co-founder and executive VP of the Think Tank Cardus, to discuss the role of religion in the public square. They delve into the findings of a recent study comparing Canadian and American religiosity, explore the perceived hostility towards religious commitment in Canada, and discuss the broader implications for society. Tune in for an articulate and nuanced discussion on civic engagement, the intersection of faith and politics, and the importance of maintaining hope and authenticity in public life. 00:00 Introduction: Religion in the Public Square 00:36 Meet Ray Pennings: Co-Founder of Cardus 00:54 Study Insights: Comparing American and Canadian Religiosity 01:20 Separation of Church and State: A Deep Dive 02:20 Charitable Giving and Volunteer Work 02:42 Press Release Highlights: Provocative Findings 03:14 Survey Methodology and Key Findings 08:07 Historical Context: Religion and Politics in North America 15:46 Religious Demographics and Trends 25:36 Political Implications of Religious Demographics 31:46 Political Party Dynamics in Canada 32:18 Faith in Public Life: A Complex Landscape 33:20 Historical Influence of Religion in Canadian Politics 34:09 The NDP and Social Gospel Movement 35:14 Tommy Douglas and Fiscal Conservatism 36:15 Christianity and Political Spectrum in Canada 37:40 Separation of Church and State: Risks and Realities 40:43 Principled Pluralism and Religious Freedom 42:05 Institutional Roles and Public Life 45:24 Core Beliefs and Public Engagement 48:36 Survey Insights and Public Perception 01:02:39 Final Thoughts and Summary

Toryism has faded in Canada, but it still gets blamed for backsliding and bad behaviour in Conservative Party politics. (Full disclosure: I have never seen myself as a Tory, neither High, Low, Red, Blue, or traditional.) Political labels, especially old ones, mean nothing without definition. Even with working definitions, labels often bleed into each other at the edges, especially upon application to policy and law. Since Toryism continues to get blamed for influencing how Canadian Conservatives think, trying to uncover and define Toryism seems a worthy exercise. Ron Dart challenged me. He has a deep understanding of classics, which I admire. I will have to visit with him again to understand his deference to the state, as I see it. Professor Dart is a delightful man: erudite, kind, thoughtful, and magnanimous. I hope you enjoy this as much as I did!   AI Summary In this episode of Concepts, host Shawn Whatley engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Professor Ron Dart, an expert on Toryism and the author of over 40 books, including 'The North American High Tory Tradition.' Together, they explore the nuances of Toryism and Red Toryism in Canada and the common misconceptions surrounding them. The conversation also delves into broader themes such as the role of the state, individualism, and the importance of historical memory and contemplation in contemporary society. Professor Dart provides insightful commentary on figures like George Grant, Stephen Leacock, Edmund Burke, and more, challenging prevalent assumptions and offering a deep analysis of political and philosophical traditions. 00:00 Introduction: Is Toryism Dead in Canada? 00:18 Exploring Toryism and Red Toryism 00:39 Meet Professor Ron Dart 00:51 The North American High Tory Tradition 01:36 Challenging Perceptions of State and Society 02:35 The Role of Innovation in History 05:00 Defining Toryism 08:32 The Fragmentation of Toryism 10:36 Red Toryism and Its Historical Context 16:45 Healthcare and the Role of the State 26:12 Toryism and Anglicanism 39:43 The Reformation and Individualism 48:23 Exploring Human Nature and Identity Politics 48:51 The Culture War and Liberalism's Tensions 51:51 Aristotle's Wisdom and the Role of Friendship 55:09 Hegel, Charles Taylor, and Liberalism 56:42 Critiquing Modern Liberalism and Conservatism 01:08:47 The Importance of Memory and Contemplation