DiscoverConcepts with Shawn Whatley#63 Ron Dart: Is Toryism Dead in Canada? The Red Tory Element in Canadian Conservatism
#63 Ron Dart: Is Toryism Dead in Canada? The Red Tory Element in Canadian Conservatism

#63 Ron Dart: Is Toryism Dead in Canada? The Red Tory Element in Canadian Conservatism

Update: 2025-11-11
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Toryism has faded in Canada, but it still gets blamed for backsliding and bad behaviour in Conservative Party politics.


(Full disclosure: I have never seen myself as a Tory, neither High, Low, Red, Blue, or traditional.)


Political labels, especially old ones, mean nothing without definition. Even with working definitions, labels often bleed into each other at the edges, especially upon application to policy and law.


Since Toryism continues to get blamed for influencing how Canadian Conservatives think, trying to uncover and define Toryism seems a worthy exercise.


Ron Dart challenged me. He has a deep understanding of classics, which I admire. I will have to visit with him again to understand his deference to the state, as I see it.


Professor Dart is a delightful man: erudite, kind, thoughtful, and magnanimous. I hope you enjoy this as much as I did!


 


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In this episode of Concepts, host Shawn Whatley engages in a thought-provoking discussion with Professor Ron Dart, an expert on Toryism and the author of over 40 books, including 'The North American High Tory Tradition.' Together, they explore the nuances of Toryism and Red Toryism in Canada and the common misconceptions surrounding them. The conversation also delves into broader themes such as the role of the state, individualism, and the importance of historical memory and contemplation in contemporary society. Professor Dart provides insightful commentary on figures like George Grant, Stephen Leacock, Edmund Burke, and more, challenging prevalent assumptions and offering a deep analysis of political and philosophical traditions.


00:00 Introduction: Is Toryism Dead in Canada?


00:18 Exploring Toryism and Red Toryism


00:39 Meet Professor Ron Dart


00:51 The North American High Tory Tradition


01:36 Challenging Perceptions of State and Society


02:35 The Role of Innovation in History


05:00 Defining Toryism


08:32 The Fragmentation of Toryism


10:36 Red Toryism and Its Historical Context


16:45 Healthcare and the Role of the State


26:12 Toryism and Anglicanism


39:43 The Reformation and Individualism


48:23 Exploring Human Nature and Identity Politics


48:51 The Culture War and Liberalism's Tensions


51:51 Aristotle's Wisdom and the Role of Friendship


55:09 Hegel, Charles Taylor, and Liberalism


56:42 Critiquing Modern Liberalism and Conservatism


01:08:47 The Importance of Memory and Contemplation

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#63 Ron Dart: Is Toryism Dead in Canada? The Red Tory Element in Canadian Conservatism

#63 Ron Dart: Is Toryism Dead in Canada? The Red Tory Element in Canadian Conservatism

Shawn Whatley