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Jesse Sebastiani, aka MTV Jesse joins me on the show today. This is a milestone episode for me. Episode 100 of The Pocket.
So grateful. This conversation was an important one. As social media is on the rise and every kid wants to be an influencer when they grow up, I hope whats discussed here shares insight into the full picture, not just the shiny objects of being one of the biggest influencers in the world.
Drop a comment down below to let me know your thoughts on the show!
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A conversation between Cru Mahoney and I. We filmed this a couple of months ago in Austin.
A scoop inside of a mans mind. Some would call this "Bro Chat"
Enjoy.
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Key Moments:
05:00 Kanes are silly shoes
07:00 I fell in love last night
22:00 The E myth
39:00 The term “hybrid athlete”
49:00 How progression can kill your happiness
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Patrick Murtagh has lived the brutal reality of the NFL. One day you’re chasing your dream, the next day your name is stripped off the wall and someone else is wearing your number.
In this episode, Patty opens up about snapping his leg and ankle in a freak accident, battling isolation on the other side of the world, and what it’s really like to get cut without warning. He shares the mindset that’s kept him smiling through stretcher rides, the lessons from his late father that fuel his fight, and how he finds perspective through his family’s roots in Papua New Guinea.
Key Discussion Points
The injury that snapped his leg and ankle in half
Life alone in America while battling uncertainty
Lessons from his father and mum’s Papua New Guinea roots
The brutal “next man up” reality of the NFL
Staying optimistic when your dream is ripped away
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Chapters:
8:00 You need comparison in your life
12:20 Snapping his leg
19:00 Importance of making peoples day
32:00 Getting dropped from the Jags
40:30 The nudge you need.
43:00 Do you feel understood?
47:00 Don’t let life get too serious
49:00 A message for if you have a dream
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I sat down in Malibu with the legend himself, Laird Hamilton.
We got deep into Laird’s way of living, his philosophy on risk, fear, faith, confidence, and what it really means to carve your own path. Beyond being called The King of the Ocean, Laird is someone who has built a mindset and perspective that is unique to say the least. A lot of ah ha moments in this one. He is one wise man.
Key Discussion Points
The mindset that shaped Laird’s path from a young age
Why “delusional confidence” can be a superpower
How to deal with failure, risk, and setbacks
The role of faith, intuition, and spirituality in life
Why fulfillment can’t come from external validation
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Chapters:
00:00 The birth of tow-in surfing
09:00 Delusional confidence as a superpower
20:11 Why external validation doesn’t last
29:45 The “ride to ride another day” philosophy
37:22 The Jaws wipeout that nearly broke him
42:12 Risk, mortality, and thoughts on death
01:14:15 Success vs broken values and faith
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Today I sit down with Robin Sharma - one of the greatest authors of all time. Robin has sold over 25 million books, he is the bestselling author of The 5AM Club, The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari, The Everyday Hero Manifesto, and The Wealth Money Can’t Buy.
Robin has such a calming presence. I feel everything quiet down the moment he walked in the door. We explore the truths about success, the traps of chasing money, and the hidden forms of wealth that actually bring fulfillment. Robin shares powerful stories and frameworks that will change how you see life, work, and meaning.
Key Discussion Points:
The Johannesburg janitor who lived with dignity and mastery
Why pressure and challenge create greatness
The secret power of silence and early mornings
The hidden cost of chasing money and climbing the wrong mountain
The 8 forms of wealth that money can’t buy
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Chapters:
00:00 The Janitor Who Called It His Office
04:00 Pressure Is Not the Enemy
07:00 4AM: The New 5AM
10:00 Why We Don’t Give Ourselves Permission
13:00 Intimacy, Trust, and Feeling Safe
18:00 Cutting Out Energy Vampires
21:00 The 8 Forms of Wealth
25:00 Everyone Needs Their Own “Painting”
29:30 Don’t Climb the Wrong Mountain
32:00 The Five Question Morning Maximizer
36:00 The Four Interior Empires
39:00 What Business Is Really About
44:00 Minimalism vs. Maximalism
49:00 The Hospital Window Story
52:00 Kindness, Karma, and Keeping Promises
1:00:00 Who Will Cry When You Die?
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Elliot Bewick is 20 and already saying the stuff everyone’s whispering about. We get into why Gen Z feels empty, why complaining is everywhere, and how stories and confidence actually change your life. No fluff. Just real talk, laughs, and a few hard truths.
Key Discussion Points:
• Why complaining is just emotional noise and nobody’s getting better from it
• The “we’re all in a simulation” mindset and why it wrecks motivation
• Confidence vs ego and which one helps you actually win in life
• Loneliness, validation, and why social media makes everything worse
• How picking a story for your life is the move that changes everything
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Chapters:
0:00 The Problem With People That Complain
6:30 Why Complaint Culture Is Ruining Gen Z
12:00 How Social Media Fuels Complaining
18:00 Truth, Delusion, and the Simulation Trap
24:00 Why Faith and Belief Still Matter for Gen Z
30:00 Confidence vs Ego And Knowing the Difference
36:30 Storytelling as the Human Superpower
43:00 The Dangers of Chasing External Validation
50:00 Why Influencers End Up Lonely
57:00 Authenticity Isn’t an Excuse to Be Lazy
1:04:00 Elliot’s Social Media Blow-Up
1:11:30 The Power of Setting Delusional Goals
1:19:00 When Confidence Backfires
1:27:00 Why So Many Young Men Feel Lost
1:35:00 The Belief Driving Elliot at 20
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A different side of Ian Fonzian. From a kid hiding in his room with cystic acne to a man building businesses, running ultras, summiting Kilimanjaro and building a mammoth personal brand and following online.
We talk about growing up feeling like a monster, how the military shaped him, and the massive decision to step away from Raw Dawg when it was at its peak. Ian opens up about loneliness, purpose, external validation, and what’s next with his gym and ice cream company.
Key Discussion Points
Growing up with extreme acne and the mental toll
How solo travel skyrocketed his confidence
The military experience and loneliness
Building and leaving Raw Dawg at its peak
Purpose, business pivots, and what’s next for Ian
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Chapters:
0:04:09 Chasing harder challenges
0:06:13 Purpose from suffering
0:07:21 Real talk about consistency
0:08:11 Business pivot ice cream and gym
0:09:18 Why I left Raw Dawg
0:13:00 Protecting friendships and leaving
0:19:58 Transformation and desert upbringing
0:23:34 Cystic acne nightmare and Accutane
0:32:01 Lingering trauma and confidence
0:35:25 Military reality check
0:37:42 Loneliness and marriage incentives
0:41:17 Leadership and rank problems
0:51:28 Creative ruts and working without an agent
1:12:45 What drives me now and what’s next
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In this episode I elaborate on a quote that changed my life. I share why fear is the ultimate price tag for everything you want, how I’ve learned to trust the unknown, and why clarity only comes after you take the leap. This one’s for anyone feeling stuck, overthinking their next move, or waiting for the “perfect time” to start.
If you’ve been looking for a sign - this is it.
Key Discussion Points
Why uncertainty is the cost of all your dreams
The Steve Jobs quote that shaped my life
How to get out of your own way and stop overthinking
Turning fear into fuel and risk into reward
Why taking the leap before you’re ready is the only way forward
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Chapters:
0:00 – The quote that shaped my life
2:40 – Why uncertainty is the price tag of your dreams
5:30 – Lessons from The Alchemist & discovering purpose
7:50 – Getting out of your own way
10:20 – The pressure of growth & building a team
12:30 – How trust creates calm in chaos
14:30 – Clearing noise to invite clarity
16:20 – Choosing what feels right, even in the dark
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Rory Sutherland is one of the world’s most fascinating thinkers in advertising and behavioral science. In this episode, he breaks down why logic often kills creativity, why the dumbest ideas (like Red Bull) end up making billions, and how consumer behavior makes no rational sense. From frozen yogurt lines to Airbnb’s unintended consequences, this conversation dives into the messy, illogical, and deeply human side of decision-making. We also had a whole lot of fun. Rory is one entertaining guy.
Key Discussion Points
Why logical decisions rarely lead to innovation
Red Bull, frozen yogurt, and the psychology of “dumb” ideas
Why entrepreneurs belong in casinos, not chess clubs
How framing and emotion drive behavior more than facts
Airbnb, matcha, and the paradox of things that shouldn’t work but do
ANDDDD Much, much more
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Chapters:
0:00 Rory on Australia & first impressions
6:15 Ice cream vs frozen yogurt psychology
12:42 Restaurants, failure & Darwinian innovation
18:55 Why luck beats logic in business
25:30 The Red Bull paradox
31:48 Bubble tea, matcha & strange consumer habits
38:22 Why Australians undervalue themselves
45:10 Breakthroughs born by accident
52:04 The danger of pure logic
58:40 Emotion > facts in persuasion
1:05:15 Electric cars & tribal identity
1:12:02 Pensions, dating apps & real priorities
1:18:47 Social constraints we never question
1:25:33 Airbnb’s unintended consequences
1:32:20 Experience goods: only valuable once tried
1:39:05 Why Americans adopt faster
1:45:55 The myth of perfect information
1:52:40 Airports, bad purchases & brain mush
1:59:00 Final reflections with Rory
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Today’s guest is ex-CIA officer and founder of EveryDaySpy, Andrew Bustamante.
We went deep on the truth about government, money, perception, persuasion, and what real success actually looks like. He revealed how spy training connects to everyday life, why the CIA isn’t what conspiracy theories claim, and how the systems around us are designed to keep us predictable.
What stood out most is his blunt honesty: happiness is a slippery pursuit, financial success is the only objective success, and once you see how the world really works, you can never unsee it.
Key Discussion Points:
The truth about the CIA vs conspiracy theories
Influence vs persuasion (and how you’re being steered daily)
How the world really works vs how we’re taught it runs
Why governments don’t care about you (and never did)
A debate on money, success, and what truly matters
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Chapters:
1:30 – CIA breathwork and field prep
6:40 – Debunking CIA conspiracies
11:20 – What the CIA actually does
16:45 – Influence vs persuasion explained
22:10 – How algorithms control your thinking
27:30 – The red pill: once you see it, you can’t unsee it
33:20 – How the world runs vs how the world works
38:50 – Governments don’t care about you
44:30 – Systems built to keep you predictable
50:40 – External validation vs real success
56:10 – Heated debate: what money really means
1:02:30 – Net worth and how it changes everything
1:08:00 – Curiosity vs commitment: why most stay stuck
1:13:10 – Raising kids with perspective outside the US
1:18:20 – Working for nothing vs working for something
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Today’s guest is Ash Dykes. When most people think of adventure, they picture travel, fun, maybe a little challenge. For Ash Dykes, it’s life or death.
From pulling a 120kg trailer through the Gobi Desert with no backup, to hallucinating his way to survival on the brink of heatstroke, to being held at gunpoint and crossing crocodile-infested rivers. Ash has lived through it all.
But this isn’t just about danger. It’s about why someone would willingly step into the unknown, where death is a real option, and what that teaches you about life, fear, and resilience.
Ash shares how he went from a small coastal town in North Wales to setting world records in some of the most extreme places on Earth, and the mental discipline it takes to keep moving when everything in your body is screaming to stop.
This conversation is raw, wild, and filled with lessons that go way beyond exploration.
Key Discussion Points:
Nearly dying of heatstroke in the Gobi Desert
Training for world records with just a tire and sledgehammer
The “third man syndrome” that saved his life
Why fear is a package deal with growth
Leading with kindness in life-or-death missions
This one will make you rethink what’s really possible.
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Timestamps:
03:00 Why Ash chases danger
09:40 Childhood dreams in North Wales
13:20 $10 bike across Vietnam
18:40 Illegal jungle crossings
24:50 Mongolia mission begins
31:00 Dragging 120kg through the Gobi
37:10 Heatstroke and hallucinations
42:00 The “third man” phenomenon
50:30 Wolves, bears, and crocs
58:20 Breaking down on the Yangtze
01:05:00 The weight of leadership
01:12:40 Survival in the Amazon
01:18:50 Love vs danger lessons
01:24:40 Next mission on the Yellow River
01:30:00 Chasing legacy and purpose
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Real talk… Jim Fortin changed my life as a young 17 year old. It is very full circle being able to sit down at his house for over 2 hours and have him on the show.
Most people are living life backwards. They’re chasing more money, more success, more things… all while stuck in the same identity that keeps pulling them back.
In this episode, Jim Fortin breaks down why 99.8% of people are working from the wrong place - behavior over identity, and how to flip it so transformation actually sticks. We unpack subconscious programming, the stories we tell ourselves, habits that shape our entire reality, and how to finally step into the identity of the person you want to become.
Key Discussion Points
• Why most people “work backwards” in life
• How your subconscious identity sabotages change
• The hidden role of habits and stories
• Breaking free from scarcity and limitation
• The real path to lasting transformation
Thank you all for the support. This one is special. Very special for me.
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Timestamps:
00:03:00 – Why 99.8% of people work backwards
00:07:00 – Growing up poor and breaking free from it
00:12:00 – The truth about identity vs behavior
00:16:30 – Oprah, habits, and why change doesn’t stick
00:21:00 – The power of stories we tell ourselves
00:26:00 – Reprogramming subconscious beliefs
00:31:00 – My own resistance to coaching
00:35:00 – Doubt as the doorway to transformation
00:39:30 – How people’s energy shapes your life
00:45:00 – Relationships, attachment, and emotional maturity
00:51:00 – Financial abuse and subconscious control
00:56:30 – Why providing isn’t enough in relationships
01:02:00 – Doing vs being: where real change happens
01:08:00 – How identity creates self-fulfilling prophecies
01:15:00 – Final lessons on stepping into who you truly are
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This was raw and real. Straight from the heart filled with passion.
Hopefully this can give you the nudge you need to take the leap.
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Today’s guest is Savanna Faith Stone and she has absolutely blown up this year all over social media. At just 20 years old, she’s gone viral for saying things most people are too scared to even whisper.
In this episode, she opens up about why she believes feminism was a CIA operation, why she’d gladly give up her right to vote for a more conservative country, and how her faith and marriage shape the way she sees the world.
We dive into her transformation from a liberal high schooler and model to leaning into her feminine and becoming what people consider a “trad wife”, her battles with online hate, and why she refuses to tone down her message no matter how much backlash it brings.
We also bring her husband on the show to get his perspective on the whole situation.
This is raw, controversial, and guaranteed to make you think.
Key Discussion Points:
• Why Savanna says women shouldn’t vote
• Her belief that feminism was designed as a psyop
• The role of faith and trust in her marriage
• The backlash she’s faced and how she handles hate
• Why she calls corporate jobs “modern slavery”
• The importance of speaking boldly in a cancel culture world
ANDDDD so much more
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There will be no sponsorships in this episode, I doubt the controversy is something the lovely sponsors want to be apart of. I loved this conversation so much. If you enjoy it as much as I do share it on your socials and leave us a 5 start review and subscribe. Love you all.
Timestamps:
00:03:00 – “Women shouldn’t vote”
00:08:40 – Facing hate online
00:14:50 – No separate bank accounts
00:19:20 – Fertility reality check
00:25:40 – Two paths for women
00:31:15 – Cancel culture & soul selling
00:36:50 – Christ at the center
00:42:30 – Corporate slavery
00:48:10 – Losing sponsors, gaining freedom
00:53:55 – Husband enters the chat
00:59:40 – Pain, stoicism, manhood
01:05:00 – Married young, no turning back
01:09:20 – Fame and isolation
01:11:00 – Too young to advise?
01:12:20 – Final verse to live by
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For Michael's sake, drop your #stepcheck in the comments!
Today’s guest is Michael Smoak and this conversation was one like no other he has ever been on. This year has been tough for Michael. Losing his father to sickness at the beginning of the year created a newfound drive to make the most out of life.
While this conversation surfaced his story and loss of father, it was probably the most value packed episode I have done all year. In fact I would go to say that it was my favourite episode I’ve recorded this year.
Michael opens up about recording final conversations with his father, learning to laugh through chaos, and why surrendering to truth and God reframed everything. We also get into the reps behind real communication, the trap of routine-as-cage, and how curiosity hardens into conviction.
We break down confidence vs ego, the table and plates mindset, and why ownership beats victimhood when life is loud. This was a good one!
Key Discussion Points:
• Count it all joy. Perspective is the lever
• Curiosity into conviction into competence
• Confidence is evidence. Ego needs applause
• Be the table. Everything else is plates
• Communication reps that actually work
• Ownership over victimhood, always
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Timestamps:
03:00–09:20 Laugh through chaos. Count it joy
09:20–15:40 Childhood wounds and early filters
15:40–22:00 Mortality as a compass
22:00–28:20 Parents, character, lines that stick
28:20–34:40 Cyber to creator. The jump
34:40–41:00 Sales school. Empathy and voice
41:00–47:20 Curiosity into conviction
47:20–53:40 Confidence vs ego
53:40–1:00:00 Routine or freedom
1:00:00–1:06:20 Be the table, not the leg
1:06:20–1:12:40 Mirrors in relationships
1:12:40–1:19:00 Triggers show where you aren’t free
1:19:00–1:25:20 Communication reps that work
1:25:20–1:31:40 Faith, discipline, adaptable routine
1:31:40–1:37:00 Final takeaways and thanks
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Christian Guzman has built an empire in fitness but the road to Alphaland nearly broke him.
In this episode Christian opens up about burning through $110k a month just to keep the lights on, taking a $1M loan that barely scratched the surface, and the relentless two-year grind that pushed him to his limits.
We get into the chaos of building something permanent, the mistakes that cost millions, how ego can tank a healthy business, and why he is finally shifting his focus to balance, family, and the things that actually matter.
This was a good one!
Key Discussion Points:
• The reality of running out of money mid dream
• When ego makes business decisions for you
• Building calm in the middle of absolute chaos
• Why Christian refused to quit even when he should have
• The role of family and relationships in building an empire
• Knowing when to slow down after years of full speed grind
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Timestamps:
03:00–07:30 The property that made Alphaland possible
07:30–12:00 $110k a month to stay alive
12:00–16:30 The moment he thought he was done
16:30–21:00 Lessons from the wild twenties
21:00–25:30 Managing people without losing yourself
25:30–30:00 When ego wrecks a business
30:00–34:30 Choosing family over the grind
34:30–39:00 Making time before it runs out
39:00–43:30 Building a place people belong
43:30–48:00 What sacrifice really looks like
48:00–52:30 The loneliness of mastery
52:30–57:00 Why he never quits
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Andy Elliott’s story is pure grit. He’s been betrayed, hit rock bottom, and built it all back up not just once but over and over. Today he leads the largest sales training company in the world and still wakes up hungry every day.
We talk about building a self-belief that cannot be shaken, why suffering is the best teacher, how to lead yourself before anyone else, and why the right partner can be your biggest competitive edge. This one will light you up.
People hate on Andy, people told me not to interview Andy, but I make sure I make my judgments based on my experience, not everyone else’s projections. I enjoy my time with Andy, I’m fascinated by him and I think you will be too.
Key Discussion Points:
• Why comfort kills growth
• Loyalty you cannot put a price on
• How self-imposed hardship sharpens you
• Confidence vs ego and knowing the line
• Drawing the right people into your circle
• Building a team that feels like family
• How physical discipline hardens the mind
• Turning pain into permanent fuel
• Why your partner matters more than you think
• Playing for legacy and not just quick wins
Timestamps:
03:20–09:11 Pain, suffering, and the refiner’s fire
09:11–12:00 The curse of comfort and staying hungry
12:00–15:45 Confidence vs ego and being coachable
15:45–18:45 Why connection beats information
18:45–23:05 Loyalty, betrayal, and building trust
23:05–26:47 How Jackie changed Andy’s life forever
26:47–30:15 Building a team that feels like family
30:15–33:08 Discipline, self-respect, and physical fitness
33:08–36:20 Creating life-changing impact for others
36:20–39:37 Using pain and doubt as fuel
39:37–42:02 The boring work that builds empires
42:02–44:53 Why family alignment determines long-term success
44:53–48:10 Changing who you are and coming back stronger
48:10–50:42 Resilience, redemption, and becoming a legend
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Shawn Wells is known as the world’s top supplement formulator with over 40 patented ingredients, but behind the success is a story of trauma, depression, obesity, and suicidal thoughts. In this episode, we dive into Shawn’s raw personal journey, how pain shaped his purpose, and why he believes modern life is leaving us all dangerously nutrient deficient.
We talk about the lies we’ve been told about health, the war on our brains, the true cause of burnout, and why supplements are no longer just “nice to have.”
This is one of the most eye-opening convos we’ve had on the podcast.
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Timestamps:
03:00–07:20 Supplements are no longer optional
07:20–11:35 Lifespan, healthspan, and youthspan
11:35–15:50 Escaping the system and ancient wisdom
15:50–18:22 How the food industry keeps us sick
18:22–22:05 The doctor who changed everything
22:05–26:00 Trauma, obesity, and internal war
26:00–30:04 Turning pain into purpose
30:04–34:30 Psychedelics and the second life
34:30–38:55 Loneliness, depression, and healing
38:55–43:20 Nightclubs, numbness, and real connection
43:20–47:00 Addiction, apathy, and burnout
47:00–52:00 Why caffeine makes you feel worse
52:00–58:04 Going viral with better energy
58:04–1:04:00 Kim Kardashian and Paraxanthine’s rise
1:04:00–1:09:45 Caffeine is not what you think
1:09:45–1:13:10 Understanding your bioindividuality
1:13:10–1:16:30 Smart supplementation for brain and sleep
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Tom Baulch (aka PrimeTrain) was stuck in the loop, partying every weekend, waking up with regret, and telling himself it was fine because everyone else was doing the same. But deep down, he knew he wasn’t proud of who he was becoming.
Seven months ago, he made a decision that changed everything. He gave up drinking, cleaned up his circle, and went all in on his potential. Since then, his business has hit six figures a month, his energy has shifted, and he’s finally living the life he used to just talk about.
In this raw and honest episode, we unpack what it really takes to change, why so many men stay stuck in the same cycles, and the brutal self-talk that finally pushed him to break free.
He’s not perfect. But he’s giving life a red hot crack. This convo was powerful.
Key Discussion Points:
– The drinking cycle most men can’t escape
– Self-sabotage, regret, and rock bottom
– How quitting alcohol unlocked his best self
– Business growth and inner confidence
– Why most people never change
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This one hit different.
Zack Telander is a musician, father, and seasoned weightlifter, he’s also a man who calls out the fluff on social media. Especially in a world that rewards curated personas over real connection.
In this episode, we dove deep into the dark side of content, the addiction to documenting everything, the manipulation of the algorithm, and the pressure to always perform.
Zack opened up about fatherhood, anxiety, chasing authenticity, and why we’re more drawn to flaw than perfection.
We spoke about content, but we really spoke about life. It was a good one fam!
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Key Discussion Points:
Why documenting everything ruins the moment
The danger of highlight reels and fake personas
Content before craft — and the cost of playing the game
Zack’s poem on burnout and modern life
Why we crave real human connection, not more content
00:00 - 03:45 Why content is cannibalizing itself
03:45 - 07:10 If everything is content, nothing is
07:10 - 11:00 Algorithms vs authenticity
11:00 - 15:25 Charlatans, fake personas, and funnels
15:25 - 19:40 Fatherhood and breaking OCD cycles
19:40 - 25:05 Why being broke taught him resilience
25:05 - 30:10 Zack’s poem “The Millennial”
30:10 - 35:40 Content before craft and the myth of potential
35:40 - 40:00 Outsourcing your voice and losing the soul
40:00 - 44:30 When content is systemized, humans disappear
44:30 - 48:20 Doomscrolling, manipulation, and influencer ethics
48:20 - 53:00 The culture of lines
53:00 - 58:00 Transaction vs transformation in coaching
58:00 - 60:45 Why connection matters more than content
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