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Pet Business Disruptors

Author: Clayton Payne

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Giving an in-depth look into all aspects of the pet Industry, Pet Business Disruptors tackles everything practical you need to know to succeed in the pet industry. Whether it's starting a pet business, finding a pet industry job or selling to the world's largest Pet businesses the Pet Business Disruptors will explain how to do it and how they DID it. Aimed at everyone from entry-level to corporate CEOs within the industry Clayton and his guests cover new trends, new products and industry movements. Showing insights into what's happening in different markets and tackling common problems and challenges faced by pet industry professionals Featuring Industry Myth busters and critiquing industry products and marketing (both positive and negative). This podcast is not to be missed by people who want to know the REAL truth behind the industry and how to approach it from a position of power!

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In this episode, Clayton sits down with Louise Toal, co-founder of Furr Boost, to discuss her journey from a career in the food science industry to launching a category-defining dog hydration drink. Louise shares the story of her Beagle, Phoebe, whose health struggles inspired the creation of Furr Boost, and the extensive R&D process required to bring a first-to-market product to life.  KEY TAKEAWAYS Furr Boost wasn't created just to sell a product; it was born out of a desperate need to help a sick dog (Phoebe) stay hydrated when traditional options failed. Louise didn’t rush to market. She spent five years on R&D, working with vets and testing with 40 dog owners to ensure the product was safe, effective, and palatable before officially launching. Although Louise turned down the investment offer from Dragons’ Den due to valuation differences, the exposure was invaluable, crashing her website with orders and establishing credibility. Being ‘first to market’ is difficult because customers don't know they need your product yet. Success required relentless education: at trade shows, online, and through vets, to explain why dog hydration matters. Starting with direct-to-consumer (DTC) sales allowed Furr Boost to build a brand and gather data, which later proved essential for convincing major retailers like supermarkets to stock the product. BEST MOMENTS "I did the first one in the kitchen: chicken, butternut squash, and cranberry. She lapped it up, and we started using that to push fluids." "It was the most sleepless night I've ever had in the business. I'd spent about 80 grand on this bit of kit from a photograph, and just thought, 'I really hope this isn't a bag of spanners.'" “You don't really think about it, it’s just another piece of work done. On to the next." "People read pictures. Our packaging had to scream 'I am a drink' because our biggest question was always 'Is it a powder? Is it a food?'" "The reality with business is you have to continuously pivot, the worst thing you can do is be really hung up with your own ego." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton welcomes Sarah and Matt from 'My Anxious Dog' to the podcast, to discuss their journey in raising awareness about anxious dogs and the importance of giving them space. They discuss the personal experiences that led them to create a range of products designed to help owners communicate their dog's needs, including the significance of the colour yellow as a warning signal. Sarah shares the challenges they faced in the early days, the evolution of public attitudes towards dog anxiety, and the development of their business. KEY TAKEAWAYS The journey into recognising and addressing dog anxiety began with personal experiences, highlighting the importance of understanding a dog's body language and emotional needs. Awareness of signs such as "whale eyes" and a tight muzzle can help owners identify anxiety in their pets. The initiative to use yellow as a warning colour for anxious dogs originated from the horse world, where a yellow ribbon indicates a need for space. This campaign aims to raise awareness and promote understanding among dog owners and the public about the needs of anxious dogs. The importance of community support is emphasised through local awareness efforts, such as creating posters and stickers, and organising events like "Dogs in Yellow" day. Engaging the community helps spread the message and fosters a supportive environment for dog owners with anxious pets. The need for quality products tailored for anxious dogs led to the creation of a range of items, including harnesses, leads, and calming aids. The focus is on providing practical solutions that help both dogs and their owners navigate social situations more comfortably. The experience of owning an anxious dog has transformed into a passion for advocacy, leading to personal growth and a commitment to educating others. The journey has not only improved the quality of life for the dog but has also fostered a deeper understanding of dog behaviour and owner responsibility. BEST MOMENTS "It was important for me to raise awareness where I walked." "Yellow is the official warning colour for caution." "I think 75% of dogs suffer with some form of anxiety or behaviour issues." "People just think that you've got a dangerous, aggressive dog." "We've learned so much because we've embraced it." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Clayton interviews Wendy, the founder of Waita Pets, a burgeoning pet food company specializing in freeze-dried treats. Wendy shares her journey into the pet industry, sparked by her desire to find quality food for her own pets. She discusses the unique products offered by Waita Pets, including quail egg balls and duck blood cubes, which are inspired by Asian pet food trends. As the episode unfolds, Wendy reveals her plans for expanding the product range and entering more retail spaces, highlighting the challenges and triumphs of running a pet business in London. KEY TAKEAWAYS Wendy started Waita Pets out of a personal need for high-quality freeze-dried treats for her pets, leading her to identify a gap in the UK market for such products. The company rapidly expanded by participating in local shows and markets, which allowed for direct interaction with customers and retailers, ultimately leading to partnerships with stores like Just For Pets. TikTok played a significant role in promoting Waita Pets, with Wendy leveraging influencers to create engaging content that showcased the products, helping to build brand awareness and community. Waita Pets offers a range of unconventional pet treats, including quail eggs and duck blood cubes, which are inspired by Asian markets and cater to the growing demand for natural and high-protein options for pets. The company aims to expand its product range further, including new proteins and complete food options for pets, while also considering the logistics of scaling operations and potentially moving to a larger warehouse outside of London. BEST MOMENTS "We started to get into what is the sourcing of the fishes and the chicken, duck, and then going to factories and see the freeze-drying condition." "I think when you're just on the internet, people don't have the same appreciation for your brand that they do when they actually meet you physically." "We do get a lot of raw feeders that are saying, okay, this is what I want. So this is very good." "We will be expanding the range. People asking, like venisons and lots of new fish products coming in." "I think your products generally, the price doesn't run as high as a lot of other companies." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton welcomes back Sam Hanbury, the founder of Baboo Gelato and Doggy Doggy Yum Yum, to discuss the growth and evolution of his dog ice cream business. Sam shares insights into the unique challenges and successes of selling dog ice cream alongside human ice cream, highlighting the importance of quality ingredients and the shift towards non-traditional retail channels like pubs and garden centres. They also discuss the logistics of exporting products to the Middle East, the significance of community-building through crowdfunding, and the necessity of building strong relationships in the pet industry. KEY TAKEAWAYS The importance of building a community around the brand is emphasised, with crowdfunding being used not just for financial support but to create a sense of ownership among customers, staff, and suppliers. The company is looking to expand its dog ice cream product line and distribution channels, particularly in the pet industry, by focusing on direct engagement with retailers and participating in events to increase visibility. Exporting ice cream, especially to warmer climates like the Middle East, presents significant logistical challenges, including maintaining a cold chain during transport and navigating regulatory requirements. There is a clear distinction made between sales and marketing, with a focus on the necessity of direct conversations with customers to drive sales, rather than relying solely on social media and digital marketing strategies. Building long-term relationships with customers and partners is crucial for sustained business success. The value of repeat business over time is highlighted, demonstrating that nurturing these relationships can lead to significant revenue growth. BEST MOMENTS "We set up a dog ice cream called Doggy Doggy Yum Yum because we had people buying ice cream for their dogs." "People would be insane not to have a dog ice cream because it's just such an easy thing to have on their menu." "The cold chain is terrifying enough for the UK; add an extra 20 degrees, and it's going to be that much more nerve-wracking." "Crowdfunding is equity investment; this is real investment in the company." "It's so much easier in life to deal with nice people." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Claytons sits down with Stephen Hu, the founder of Lit Pet, the first traditional Chinese medicine company for dogs in the UK. Stephen shares his personal journey into the pet wellness industry, sparked by the loss of his beloved cat and his realisation of the need for a more holistic approach to pet health. He discusses the unique blend of traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) and modern veterinary science that Lit Pet offers, emphasizing the importance of prevention and emotional well-being in pet care. They also explore the differences between the pet markets in Hong Kong and the UK, the challenges of educating consumers about TCM, and the innovative strategies Lit Pet employs to stand out in a competitive supplement market. KEY TAKEAWAYS The journey to establish Lit Pet was driven by the loss of a beloved pet, which highlighted the need for addressing chronic stress and health issues in animals through a holistic approach that combines traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) with modern veterinary science. There is a significant gap in understanding TCM in the UK market compared to Hong Kong. The strategy involves educating consumers and veterinary professionals about the benefits and scientific backing of TCM ingredients, emphasizing clinical research and veterinary endorsements. Lit Pet collaborates with Oxford University for research and clinical trials to ensure that their formulations are effective and safe. This partnership helps in optimizing product formulations based on scientific evidence and traditional practices. The brand aims to stand out in a crowded supplement market by focusing on proactive health care rather than reactive solutions. They emphasise the importance of prevention and the long-term benefits of their products, which are designed to address specific health concerns. Looking ahead to 2026, Lit Pet plans to expand its product range, including new offerings for joint and kidney health, and aims to increase its presence in both the UK and European markets. They also plan to engage in offline events, including a pop-up store in London, to connect directly with consumers. BEST MOMENTS "I realised that not only animals could suffer from chronic stress like humans do." "Our mission is trying to address the root causes of stress-related health issues." "We are defining what it means to create evidence-based natural care for pets." "The UK customers expect scientific backing for functional claims." "We are going to launch two products focusing on joint issues and kidney problems next year." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Clayton interviews Nikki French, a renowned dog trainer and author of the provocative book "Stop Walking Your Dog." Nikki shares her inspiring journey from a 30-year corporate career in property sales and marketing to becoming a passionate dog trainer. After a life-changing bike accident, she discovered her true calling in the pet industry, focusing on helping dogs that struggle with traditional walking routines. KEY TAKEAWAYS After a 30-year corporate career in property sales and marketing, a life-changing bike accident led to a career shift into dog training, highlighting the importance of following one's passion and adapting to life changes. The transition included a focus on building an online presence through a membership program and a podcast, demonstrating the value of leveraging digital platforms to reach a wider audience. The book "Stop Walking Your Dog" was designed to challenge conventional dog training practices and spark conversations about dog behavior, emphasising the need for tailored approaches to meet individual dogs' needs. Physical walks alone do not fulfill a dog's needs; mental stimulation through games and activities is crucial for a dog's well-being, encouraging owners to rethink traditional walking routines. The process of writing and publishing the book involved significant investment in professional support, illustrating the importance of quality in publishing and marketing to establish credibility and authority in the field. BEST MOMENTS "I wanted to be able to reach more people and do more stuff." "It was an absolute gift because could I have carried on doing it for another 10-15 years? Probably." "If your dog is dog reactive, don't stick them in front of a dog where they're losing it." "I think the problem is, is that when you walk into these planned routes, you get trapped and caged." "I think it's quite interesting that you experienced this through an unfortunate accident." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Clayton engages in a dynamic conversation with Gerard O'Mahony from Petfellas, exploring their extensive backgrounds in the pet industry. Gerard shares insights from his seven and a half years in the sector, including his experience as the managing director at Pedigree. They discuss the complexities of wholesale operations, the challenges faced by independent pet shops, and the importance of authenticity and passion in the pet retail space. KEY TAKEAWAYS Wholesalers play a crucial role in the pet industry by acting as intermediaries between brands and independent pet shops. They help brands reach a wider audience but require brands to provide adequate margins and support to effectively sell their products. The pet industry thrives on passion, with both retailers and consumers deeply invested in the well-being of pets. Authenticity in product offerings and customer engagement is essential for building trust and loyalty among pet owners. Independent pet shops face unique challenges, including managing a diverse range of products and maintaining customer relationships. They often need to balance the demands of suppliers with the needs of their customers, which can create pressure in their operations. Brands looking to enter the wholesale market must clearly define their value proposition and understand the competitive landscape. It's important for brands to offer products that fill a niche or provide a unique selling point to stand out in a crowded market. Creating a positive customer experience through engagement and personalised service is vital for independent pet shops. Retailers should focus on building relationships with customers, as this can lead to repeat business and brand loyalty. BEST MOMENTS "I think the deciding price scale is an interesting one, because it will make them look to multi-channel." "The reality is you've got overheads to cover and there's fixed costs of putting a truck on somebody's door." "If you want wholesale to sell, you need to pay for it." "You have to find lighthouse brands, to help them find it as quick as possible." "You don't end up in front of a pet shop, and you're held accountable for it." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton interviews Matt Cayless, founder of Bubblegum Search, who specialises in helping challenger DTC brands, particularly in the pet wellness sector, scale their businesses through an integrated approach to SEO and digital PR. Matt discusses the importance of niching down in a competitive market, the evolving landscape of SEO in the age of AI, and the need to align marketing strategies to drive organic growth.  KEY TAKEAWAYS Integrated SEO and PR Strategy: Successful brands are leveraging an integrated approach that combines SEO, content marketing, and digital PR to build brand authority and drive organic growth. Importance of Brand Authority: The report highlights that brand authority is crucial for ranking well in both Google and AI search. Brands need to focus on getting featured in high-authority publications to pass valuable links back to their sites. Challenges of Paid Advertising: Many brands are experiencing rising customer acquisition costs through paid ads, prompting a shift towards organic growth strategies. Opportunities for Smaller Brands: Despite the dominance of larger, VC-backed companies in the pet food industry, smaller brands can still find success by identifying niche opportunities and focusing on specific keywords where they can compete effectively. Evolving SEO Landscape: The SEO landscape is changing with the rise of AI and new search features. Brands must adapt by creating high-quality, human-edited content and avoiding over-reliance on AI-generated material to maintain their rankings and visibility. BEST MOMENTS "We help challenger DTC brands scale to six and eight figures using our integrated SEO and PR system." "The panic towards AI is a lot bigger than people realize." "Digital PR is a great way of not only driving demand but also capturing it." "If you have got a PR agency, yes, they might be getting some features, but if the goal is to move up in organic search, it has to be aligned." "You can rank number three or four, and in some instances, you will rank first and second."  HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/  https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors  https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors  This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton invites Carolina de Almeida to delve into the ethical considerations within the pet industry, particularly focusing on dog training, nutrition, and daycare services. Carolina, a dog trainer and nutrition consultant, shares her journey and the importance of ethical practices in her work. They discuss the need for better education and transparency among pet professionals, including veterinarians, to ensure the welfare of animals and the informed decision-making of pet owners. KEY TAKEAWAYS Importance of Ethics in the Pet Industry: Ethics play a crucial role in the pet industry, influencing everything from training methods to product sourcing. Consumers are increasingly looking for transparency and ethical practices behind the brands they choose. Challenges in Dog Daycare Services: Many dog daycares operate without proper training or understanding of canine behavior, leading to potential welfare concerns for the dogs. Need for Stronger Regulation: There is a significant lack of regulation in the pet industry, particularly for service-based roles like dog training and daycare. Stronger legislation is needed to ensure that professionals meet certain educational and ethical standards. Veterinary Practices and Medication: The use of medications like gabapentin for anxiety in dogs raises ethical concerns. There is a need for more transparency and education regarding the potential side effects of such medications and the importance of exploring alternative, holistic options. Consumer Awareness and Education: Consumers often lack the knowledge to assess the qualifications and ethical practices of pet service providers. Increased education and awareness are necessary for pet owners to make informed decisions about the care and products they choose for their pets. BEST MOMENTS "I think ethics for me is something that has always been really important and is always underpinned my whole career." "If we need to hurt an animal to teach them something, then it's not worth teaching." "The daycare section of the industry can be particularly unethical." "The point of a business is to make money. It's okay to make money ethically." "Just because something's industry standard doesn't make it right."  HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Clayton interviews Mike Abruscato and Allie Johnson from Brands Best Friend, an e-commerce agency specialising in helping pet brands navigate the complexities of online sales. They delve into the evolving landscape of influencer marketing, emphasising the shift from macro to micro creators and the importance of authenticity in content. They explore the impact of social media and AI on consumer behaviour, highlighting the rise of platforms like TikTok Shop as a game-changer in e-commerce. KEY TAKEAWAYS The approach to influencer marketing has shifted from simply gifting products to a more strategic focus on micro-influencers, who often have higher engagement rates and create a sense of trust among their audiences. Brands should diversify their content across various platforms and formats to avoid audience fatigue. Engaging with multiple influencers and creating varied content can enhance brand visibility and consumer trust. AI is rapidly changing how consumers discover and purchase products. Brands need to optimise their online presence for AI algorithms to ensure their products are recommended in AI-driven searches. TikTok Shop is revolutionising e-commerce by combining entertainment with shopping, allowing for a seamless purchasing experience. Brands are encouraged to invest in this platform as it offers lower fees compared to traditional e-commerce giants like Amazon. The fast-paced evolution of digital marketing and consumer behaviour necessitates that brands remain flexible and ready to pivot their strategies. Complacency can lead to missed opportunities and a decline in market relevance. BEST MOMENTS "We help pet brands develop, implement, and manage their e-commerce strategies in the United States or North America." "Micro creators have a really similar effect on their audiences. They feel like your next door neighbor." "AI is going to dramatically shorten the pathway to purchase that the average consumer takes." "TikTok Shop is on its way to being the next Amazon, if not bigger than Amazon." "The longer you hang on to that traditional model of sales, the more you risk falling behind." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton sits down with Krysta and Jeff, the owners of Pug and Hound Apothecary, a unique pet store in Geneva, Illinois. They delve into their journey from various jobs to establishing a business focused on holistic pet care, emphasising the importance of quality supplements and nutrition for pets. Krysta shares her background as a vet tech and how her experiences with her dog Bruce inspired their product offerings. Jeff discusses their approach to sourcing products, prioritising quality over price, and the challenges of competing with larger retailers. KEY TAKEAWAYS Both Jeff and Krysta have diverse backgrounds that led them to establish Pug and Hound Apothecary. Krysta's journey began with a desire to be a vet, leading her to gain extensive knowledge in pet nutrition and health, while Jeff's experiences in various jobs and a passion for dog care culminated in their partnership. Pug and Hound Apothecary prioritises high-quality products, refusing to carry items with harmful ingredients like sugar or synthetic additives. They emphasise the importance of sourcing and vetting products to ensure safety and efficacy for pets. The business thrives on building relationships with customers through personalised consultations. They take the time to understand each pet's unique needs, which fosters trust and loyalty, distinguishing them from larger retail chains. The store offers a wide variety of products, including unique and unconventional items, which helps attract customers. They continuously assess and adapt their inventory based on customer feedback and market trends, ensuring they meet the diverse needs of pet owners. Operating a specialised pet store comes with challenges, such as managing inventory and navigating distributor relationships. The owners acknowledge the difficulties of competing with larger retailers and emphasise the importance of being a trusted resource for pet care knowledge and products. BEST MOMENTS "I wanted to be a vet and my parents told me not to be a vet." "People are going to come for you. Hear about the technical side of the supplements." "There's a lot of crap out there. The supplement industry is inundated with just muddy waters." "If something's inexpensive, it's not going to be any good." "You might save a few bucks up front, but most of the time that's going to cost you a lot more in the long run." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Clayton interviews Lee Bridges, co-founder of Play9 and creator of the innovative Roolo activity ball. Lee shares his journey from being a musician and running an entertainment agency to launching a successful pet product that has garnered significant traction in the market. They move to discuss the challenges of bootstrapping a business, the importance of community in the pet industry, and the unique features of the Roolo ball that make it a game-changer for dog owners. KEY TAKEAWAYS Emphasising the importance of community within the pet industry, the discussion highlights how collaboration among businesses can lead to greater success rather than competition. The creation of the Roolo activity ball stemmed from personal experiences with a pet, showcasing how identifying a problem can lead to innovative solutions. The process involved rapid prototyping and testing with various dog breeds to refine the product. The founders have chosen to bootstrap their business, avoiding outside investment to maintain control and quality. This approach has allowed them to navigate challenges while focusing on product integrity and customer satisfaction. Plans for expansion include launching treat products specifically designed for use with the Roolo ball, as well as a smaller version of the ball for small dogs. This strategy aims to create a consumable product line that encourages repeat purchases and enhances customer loyalty. BEST MOMENTS "I think it's almost as revolutionary as the Kong was when it came out." "I reckon we could do this, we can make something ourselves." "We wanted to come up with something so they're not circular, they're like slightly cylindrical." "It's the first time I've felt like the business is pulling as opposed to pushing." "I see some of the stands where they're just trying to make a sale." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton sits down with Helen Wainwright and Lee Hobbs from the Dog Trainer School. They discuss the challenges faced by dog trainers, including the lack of resources and support after certification, and how they aim to fill that gap through their membership program. The episode also touches on the importance of community, collaboration, and the evolving landscape of dog training, emphasizing the need for trainers to adapt to new trends and focus on their strengths. KEY TAKEAWAYS The organisation emphasises a positive and inclusive community among dog trainers, encouraging open conversations about pricing and methodologies without negativity or gatekeeping information. The dog training industry is evolving, and it's crucial for trainers to stay updated on new trends and practices. The founders actively engage with other professionals, such as veterinarians, to understand market shifts and client needs. While many trainers start as generalists, there is a growing recognition of the importance of specialization. Trainers are encouraged to focus on their strengths and interests, whether that be in specific training methods or types of dogs. The importance of practical application in dog training is highlighted, with a focus on real-world experience. Trainers are encouraged to test techniques in the field and share their findings with the community to foster growth and confidence. BEST MOMENTS "I really struggled to find resources and just ideas or inspiration." "We were really, really keen not to gatekeep information." "It's an unregulated industry, so you become certified, approved, whatever, but then you're on your own." "Toxicity breeds toxicity, doesn't it? So if we don't do it, if it doesn't exist, you don't have to get rid of it." "We purposely listen to the industry and our members." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Clayton interviews Lindsey John Taylor (Co-Founder) and Karla Pearson, Director of OxyPet, a company specialising in oxygenated spring water for pets. Lindsey shares his personal health journey that inspired the creation of OxyPet, detailing his experiences with severe blood clots and the transformative effects of breathwork and hydration. They also explore the unique properties of OxyPet's nano-bubble oxygen spring water, its benefits for pets, particularly brachycephalic breeds like French Bulldogs, and the importance of hydration for overall health. KEY TAKEAWAYS Lindsey's journey with OxyPet began after experiencing severe health issues, including blood clots, which led him to explore breath work and the benefits of hydration, ultimately inspiring the creation of oxygenated water for pets. OxyPet uses a patented nano-bubble oxygen machine to infuse natural spring water with ten times the levels of dissolved oxygen, enhancing hydration and purportedly providing health benefits for pets, particularly brachycephalic breeds. The product has shown promising results in trials with dogs suffering from various health issues, including breathing difficulties and skin conditions. Testimonials from pet owners highlight significant improvements in their pets' health and well-being after using OxyPet. OxyPet is committed to sustainability, using bottles made from prevented ocean plastic and packaging made from sustainable forestry. The production process implements eco-friendly practices, including solar and wind energy. BEST MOMENTS "I just completed climbing Kilimanjaro, and I suffered two severe blood clots. I found a new appreciation of oxygen." "We take a natural spring water from Cornwall, and infuse the spring water with nano bubbles." "There is no placebo with animals. What you see is what you see.” "I had to do something about it. I was like, right, I really like the sound of this." "If you've got a flat-faced breed, then it's advisable that having OxyPet every day would really suit them." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Clayton sits down with Billy Bosco from Pet King Brands, the family-owned company behind the well-known Zymox product line. Billy shares the inspiring story of how his mother started the business 26 years ago, driven by a personal need to find a solution for their German shepherd's recurring ear infections. They also take a look at the unique enzymatic technology behind Zymox, its journey from a basement operation to a recognized brand in veterinary and retail markets, and the challenges of navigating FDA regulations. https://zymox.com/ KEY TAKEAWAYS The company, Pet King Brands, was founded 26 years ago by a mother who developed the Zymox product line after seeking a solution for her dog's recurring ear infections. The business started in her basement and has grown significantly since then. Zymox products utilise a proprietary enzyme system (LP3) that targets bacteria, fungus, and yeast without harming healthy tissue. This system is based on enzymes naturally found in the immune systems of both humans and dogs, making it effective and safe. Initially, the company focused on veterinary markets, as retail and e-commerce were not as developed. Over time, they transitioned to retail to reach a broader audience, but faced challenges in educating retail staff and consumers about their products due to FDA regulations. The company sees potential for growth in both the U.S. and international markets. They aim to penetrate the market further by increasing consumer awareness of their enzyme-based solutions and expanding their product offerings, including new applications for existing enzyme systems. While e-commerce, particularly through platforms like Amazon, has become a significant sales channel, the company recognises the importance of maintaining a presence in brick-and-mortar retail to build trust and personal connections with consumers. BEST MOMENTS "Zymox got its start because my mom was a hoarder of animals growing up. We had a German shepherd that had serious reoccurring ear infections." "It's almost like a pride point at this point to know we're still family owned and operated." "The day we finally learned and convinced consumers that these enzymes are able to work, I think we could have endless growth in the US." "We always have to be very surface level and we have to rely on consumers to want to take a risk or investigate the product." "Amazon is like the power that be. It can give us and it can take us." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton engages in a lively conversation with Sherry and Carly, known as the Pet Shop Girls, who share their unique experiences as independent pet store owners in the U.S. and Canada. Sherry, owner of Odyssey Pets in Dallas, Texas, and Carly, who runs a holistic pet store in Regina, Saskatchewan, discuss the challenges and triumphs of navigating the pet industry, especially in the wake of COVID-19. They delve into topics such as the importance of customer service, the impact of social media on business, and the differences in pet food regulations between North America and Europe. KEY TAKEAWAYS Sherry operates a large pet store in Dallas, Texas, offering a wide range of services including grooming and daycare, while Carly runs a smaller, holistic pet store in Regina, Saskatchewan, focusing on retail and consultations. This highlights the different approaches independent pet retailers can take based on their market and size. Both Sherry and Carly emphasise the value of community among independent pet professionals. They have created a Facebook group, Indie Insider, to share knowledge and support each other, which helps them stay informed about industry trends and innovations. Carly discusses her commitment to educating pet parents about pet nutrition, using tools like a grading chart for kibble. This approach not only helps customers make informed choices but also positions her store as a trusted resource in the community. Sherry shares strategies for competing against larger pet retailers, such as focusing on customer service, knowledge, and agility in adapting to market changes. This adaptability allows independent stores to respond quickly to consumer needs, unlike larger corporations. Both retailers maintain a strong stance on the quality of products they carry. Sherry avoids mid-grade kibble to ensure her customers trust the healthiness of her offerings, while Carly has seen success with raw food sales, indicating a growing trend towards healthier pet diets among consumers. BEST MOMENTS "I started studying nutrition and I certified in pet nutrition and I certified in raw nutrition and then advanced canine nutrition." "I want people to walk in and trust that the products that I have are healthy." "If you don't keep up with the times, you're going to find out eventually that what you're doing isn't working." "We are the ones that are steering the industry and making it interesting." "I can't sell a mid-grade kibble. I need to be able to sleep at night." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton interviews Karla Pearson, the founder of the No Bull Facebook group, which has grown to over 100,000 members in just six years. Karla shares her journey of becoming a passionate advocate for dog health after her own experiences with her dog, Betty. She discusses the challenges of managing a large online community focused on holistic pet care, emphasising the importance of creating a safe and supportive environment for pet owners. KEY TAKEAWAYS The No Bull Facebook group has grown organically to over 108,000 members in nearly six years, primarily through word of mouth and the trust built within the community. The group emphasises providing non-judgmental, evidence-based information about dog nutrition and health, aiming to create a safe space for pet owners to ask questions and learn without fear of ridicule. A dedicated team of moderators ensures that discussions remain respectful and constructive, actively managing conflicts and discouraging negativity, including the use of passive-aggressive reactions like laughing emojis. The group promotes a holistic view of dog care, encouraging members to consider natural alternatives and make informed decisions about their pets' diets and health, while also recognising that not all dogs can be fed the same way. Plans for the future include launching a website to provide more resources and information, seeking sponsorships to support the group's operations, and continuing to help pet owners navigate their dogs' health challenges. BEST MOMENTS "I just wanted to do everything in my powers to keep her as healthy as possible." "We are very, very strict on our rules." "There is no such thing as a stupid question because if you don't know the answer, how are you going to find out unless you ask?" "I think the one thing that always comes through with my group is that it still feels like a warm, friendly place to be." "I think if we all strive to do the best that we can with our budgets and our lifestyle, feed as fresh as you can." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
Today, Clayton sits down with Emily Mugford, the new CEO of the Company of Animals, to discuss her unique journey from being a small animal veterinarian to leading a well-established pet product company founded by her father, Roger Mugford. Emily shares insights into the challenges and rewards of transitioning into her new role, the evolution of the Company of Animals over the past 45 years, and the importance of understanding the psychology behind dog training. KEY TAKEAWAYS Emily Mugford, daughter of Roger Mugford, has transitioned from being a small animal vet to the CEO of the Company of Animals, a company founded by her father 45 years ago. She has a strong veterinary background and has taken on a leadership role in the family business, focusing on succession planning and company growth. The Company of Animals has evolved from primarily dog training to a broader focus on animal behaviour and lifestyle products. The Halty Head Collar, designed to help stop dogs from pulling, remains a flagship product, while the company has expanded its range to include various training and lifestyle items. The company has successfully expanded its operations internationally, with distribution in the US, UK, Netherlands, and Australia. This growth has been facilitated by the use of third-party logistics (3PL) providers, allowing for more efficient distribution without the need for physical warehouses in every location. The US market presents unique challenges due to its size and fragmentation. While the Company of Animals has established a presence, competition from well-known brands and the need for greater brand awareness remain significant hurdles. BEST MOMENTS "I think the problem isn't with veterinarians, it's with the larger corporate industry." "If something goes wrong, it can be fixed, it can be sorted." "We want to be long-term partners with people, not just short-term, flash-in-the-pan affairs." "I think we can be proud that many of our products have enabled those families to stay together." "It's a much scarier role, but do you know what, like nothing dies." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton interviews Kristen Morrison, founder of the Six Figure Business Academy and host of the Prosperous Pet Business podcast. Kristen shares her journey from starting a pet sitting and dog walking business in 1995 to coaching over 3,500 pet business owners. She discusses the challenges she faced in building her business, the importance of creating a work-life balance, and the evolution of marketing strategies in the pet industry. Kristen emphasises the significance of relationships and community engagement in business growth, while also addressing the need for clarity and focus in service offerings. KEY TAKEAWAYS The journey began with a passion for pets, leading to the establishment of a pet sitting and dog walking business in 1995, despite having no prior business knowledge. Over 18 years of running a business, valuable lessons were learned through trial and error, including the importance of effective marketing, hiring the right people, and maintaining a work-life balance. The transition to coaching other pet business owners emerged organically, with initial clients achieving success and spreading the word, leading to a coaching practice that has helped over 3,500 individuals. While modern marketing tools like social media and SEO are essential, traditional methods such as building relationships with local pet businesses remain effective for attracting clients. Success is not solely defined by financial metrics; it also involves creating a business that allows for personal happiness and time freedom, emphasising the need for balance in the entrepreneurial journey. BEST MOMENTS "I realised, hey, I could turn this into a business." "Everyone is so different, and the advice that I give to each person is going to be really different as well." "If you're working seven days a week and you can't get any time, you're obviously not earning enough money." "A lot of people who are making over six figures and beyond are totally stressed out." "You're going to have to work before you've even worked for me." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
In this episode, Clayton sits down with John and Lisa Bryson, the president and vice president of Tranquil Tails, at SuperZoo 2025. They share their unique journey from diverse backgrounds - John's transition from law to small business and Lisa's experience in neonatal intensive care and retail—to create a product aimed at alleviating pet anxiety through a non-toxic pheromone diffuser. They also discuss the growing awareness of pet anxiety, particularly in cats, and the innovative solutions Tranquil Tails offers, including a plug-in diffuser and a spray formulation for travel. KEY TAKEAWAYS John transitioned from a law career to the family business after a personal tragedy, leading to the development of Tranquil Tails, a company focused on calming products for pets using pheromones. Tranquil Tails offers a plug-in heated diffuser that releases a non-toxic pheromone blend to help alleviate anxiety in pets, particularly dogs and cats. The product is based on years of research and aims to address the growing issue of pet anxiety. There is a noticeable shift in pet ownership dynamics, with more people treating pets as family members. This has led to increased awareness of pet anxiety, particularly in cats, which have historically been underserved in the pet product market. Entering the pet market involves navigating significant challenges, including competition from established brands and the complexities of retail partnerships. The company is focusing on direct-to-consumer sales through their website and Amazon to build their brand. The founders see potential in expanding their product line to address issues related to aging pets and are committed to innovation in the pet care space. They emphasise the importance of adapting to market changes and consumer needs while maintaining a focus on safety and efficacy. BEST MOMENTS "We talked to our supplier about this pheromone and we said, wait a minute, maybe we could put this in the pad." "The pheromones that we are using in our formulation are mammillary." "The interesting thing is, the difference between animals and humans is you don't get the placebo effect in animals." "If a pheromone can be used to alleviate that bad behaviour, a lot of these dogs that are put down don't have to be put down." "It's not how many times you fall down, it's how many times you get back up." HOST BIO Clayton Payne is an industry veteran of three decades of working in the pet industry. Brought up working in his parents' pet store, Clayton has seen the industry evolve over five different decades and has been on the cutting edge of the industry since the nineties. Building pet businesses from scratch, establishing multi-national distribution chains and having worked in every aspect of the industry, Clayton has a rare insight into the Pet Industry that is rivalled by few. Clayton has been the spearhead of many of the industry's changes and has introduced numerous new concepts to market with a trail of success behind him. He has worked in numerous countries within the pet industry, speaks four different languages and has established both import and export relationships on all continents (excluding Antarctica). As well as being COO of one of the UKs fastest growing insect technology companies, Clayton is a Pet industry consultant who has consulted for many household brands and delivers sales training to pet trade professionals. https://www.linkedin.com/in/clayton-payne-a6772244/ https://www.tiktok.com/@petbusinessdisruptors https://www.youtube.com/@PetBusinessDisruptors This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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