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In a time where it feels like 2000s diet culture is back in full force, this week’s episode about eating disorders and body image is important now more than ever. Whether you’re currently struggling with your body, have struggled in the past, love someone who struggles, or are just interested in a deep dive on these complex challenges, this episode is for you.This episode covers:02:32 - Tea & Crumpets: Sabrina Carpenter’s new album and The Practice of Groundedness by Brad Stulberg05:08 - Step Into My Office: Do I have an eating disorder or is just lifelong body shame?10:08 - The DSM: Eating disorders, disordered eating, and body image56:36 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!58:50 - Val Pick: "Ana's Song" by Silverchair1:00:38 - Em Pick: "Fat Funny Friend" by Maddie Zahm1:02:33 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: A man crossed 26 miles in a kayak made from mushrooms + a dog’s wholesome last mealResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Sabrina Carpenter’s new albumThe Practice of Groundedness by Brad Stulberg"Ana's Song" by Silverchair"Fat Funny Friend" by Maddie ZahmHe crossed 26 miles in a kayak made from mushrooms – and lived to tell the taleA dog’s wholesome last mealThe Body Is Not An ApologyThe Center for Body TrustIntuitive EatingChristy HarrisonHealth At Every SizeASDAHConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG:

Today we have such an exciting episode and a special guest. Santasha Wright-Comer, LMSW, is a Sex-Informed Therapist here The Gaia Center who believes healing and pleasure go hand in hand. A proud wife and mom of two, Santasha brings both warmth and realness into her work, especially when supporting LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC communities in finding safety, joy, and intimacy in their relationships. When she’s not in session, you can catch her in dance class, laughing with her family, or researching the latest mods for The Sims 4.In this episode, SanTasha shares so much wisdom related to sex therapy, sex positivity, and kink.This episode covers:03:13 - Tea & Crumpets: Listers: A Glimpse Into Extreme Birdwatching - from Owen & Quentin Reiser, Unknown Number: The High School Catfish on Netflix, and The Sims09:10 - Step Into My Office: How do I bring up kink with my partner?13:57 - The DSM: Sex Therapy & Kink45:55 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!47:24 - SanTasha pick: "Persuasive:" by Doechii48:30 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Mile long table in Denver CO sat thousands of people who wanted to connect and be in community with one another, and Who Gives a Crap, 52:49 - Rapid Fire Q&AResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Listers: A Glimpse Into Extreme BirdwatchingUnknown Number: The High School CatfishThe SimsConnect with SanTasha:gaiacenter.co/meet-santashainstagram.com/santashawcConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are

Alcohol culture is pervasive—and while alcohol isn’t unhealthy for EVERYONE, the discourse can be pretty inescapable. Whether you’ve been alcohol free for years, curious about your relationship with alcohol, or trying to stop, this episode is for you!This episode covers:00:03:08 - Tea & Crumpets: All Rhodes Lead Here by Mariana Zapata and delaying gratification by doing things slowly00:08:20 - Step Into My Office: How do I set boundaries with family related to alcohol?00:13:25 - The Lore: Val’s journey to an alcohol free life00:26:55 - The DSM: Alcohol in 202500:57:36 - Now That's What I Call....OKAAAAY!00:59:41 - Val Pick: "Reasons I Drink" by Alanis Morissette01:02:06 - Em Pick: "Escapism." by Raye01:03:24 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Two 10 year old girls beat 2 chest grandmasters & the annual Gallup Life Evaluation indexResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Gallup poll studying American’s consumption habitsWhat Is a Standard Drink? Measurements of Alcohol Explained | LoveToKnowSunnysideReframeHello SomedayThe Killjoy AfterpartyCreative SobrietyThis Naked Mind PodcastThis Naked MindQuit Like a WomanTired of Thinking About DrinkingThe Unexpected Joy of Being SoberConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpoda...

In this episode, Valerie and Emerson dive into an always controversial topic: infidelity. They explore what infidelity actually is, statistics, why people cheat, cultural considerations, and the role therapy can play.This episode covers:03:28 - Tea & Crumpets: The Osbournes and Shrinking Season 206:08 - Step Into My Office: HELP! My friend is cheating…10:04 - The DSM: THE hottest debate in all media ever and IRL relationships… let’s talk about INFIDELITY38:29 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!41:52 - Emerson’s Pick: "My Mind" by Yebba46:45 - Valerie’s Pick: "I Write Sins Not Tragedies" by Panic! At the Disco47:53 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: A former chef helping street dogs after they gave him hope in his darkest days & Dan Pelzer’s legacyResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Prolific reader, former Marine and social worker Dan Pelzer Street dogs gave him hope during dark days. Now he’s returning the favor"My Mind" by Yebba"I Write Sins Not Tragedies" by Panic! At the Discohttps://what-dan-read.com/Connect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit www.findahelpline.com for international resources.

In this episode, we are excited to dive into all things men’s mental health & the power of gaming with one of The Gaia Center’s team members, Sam DiMartino!In his clinical work, Sam supports individuals and couples through an array of topics like grief, trauma, toxic masculinity + men’s issues, systemic oppression, identity exploration etc and also leads our men’s group Tearing Down The Walls! As our Client Journey Liaison he assists our leadership team with ensuring excellent client care and experience, and he does a damn good job. When he’s not therapizing, you can find him gaming, creating, being a literal comedian and sharing his love with his wife Ruby and their two cats Sophie and Claus. This episode covers:00:03:24 - Tea & Crumpets: forRest Mind Ambiance YouTube channel, Heartstopper, and Donkey Kong Bananza00:09:12 - Step Into My Office: Is my little brother addicted to video games?00:18:09 - The DSM: Men’s mental health and the impact of video games in today’s culture00:44:10 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!00:46:12 - Sam Pick: "ZZZ Top" by Aesop Rock00:46:53 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Older aged folks finding connection through gaming, a city-run program in Seoul, SK is combating isolation among adults of all ages who live alone, and Sam’s cat Claus00:50:14 - Sam Quizzes Val & Em on Gaming00:59:56 - Rapid Fire Q&AResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:forRest Mind Ambiance YouTube channelHeartstopperDonkey Kong BananzaAesop Rock - ZZZ Top (Official Video)Gaming in their golden years articleSeoul, South Korea community programConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis...

Today’s episode is allllll about MONEY HUNNY – how we are influenced to think about the construct of money, financial wellbeing, and balancing all of this in the modern landscape of capitalism and consumerism.This episode covers:06:59 - Tea & Crumpets: Stretching in the pool + Courtney Carver11:27 - Step Into My Office: Navigating financial boundaries with friends 18:04 - The DSM: The Psychology of Money44:17 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!45:41 - Emerson Pick: "Seven Rings" by Ariana Grande48:07 - Valerie Pick: "Look At Me Now" by Karmin (CB Cover)48:55 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: H-E-B supporting Texas flood relief efforts + a crow visiting his Danish “chosen family”Resources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Courtney CarverMoney Beliefs and Financial Behaviors: Development of the Klontz Money Script InventoryScarcity mindset articleConflating Income and Self-Worth. The Money Trap 2 | by Baillie Aaron7 rings by Ariana GrandeLook At Me Now by KarminThe Butt Family, H-E-B, and the H.E. Butt Foundation announce $5 million donation for Texas flood recovery effortsA crow visits his Danish chosen family oftenConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit

In today’s world, there’s an interesting juxtaposition between constant (and often necessary) use of technology coupled with conversations around unplugging. In this episode, we dive into digital detoxing, why everyone suddenly wants a flip phone, and how our nervous systems are begging for boundaries. From nostalgic phone memories to the psychology of being “always on,” we’re asking: can we ever truly unplug? (Spoiler: you don’t have to throw your phone in the ocean… but we get it.)This episode covers:05:48 - Tea & Crumpets: Tokyo Disney & Sunrise On The Reaping10:47 - Step Into My Office: Setting tech boundaries while working from home15:43 - The DSM: Digital Detox + Unplugging39:41 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!42:32 - Val's Pick: "All You Wanted" by Michelle Branch44:06 - Em's Pick: "Two Ghosts" by Harry Styles44:23 - Wait...What? - The concept of “reheating nachos46:46 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Clarksville, TN 4 year old saves her daycare teacher’s life & an 81-year-old waitress said she couldn’t retire, so a stranger raised over $300K for herResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Sunrise On The ReapingBusiness of Apps Push Notifications Statistics of 2025How Multitasking Drains UsAll You Wanted by Michelle BranchLOVE/HATE LIST by DREAM BABY PRESSTwo Ghosts- Harry StylesClarksville, TN 4 year old saves her daycare teacher’s lifeAn 81-year-old waitress said she couldn’t retire, so a stranger raised over $300K for herConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website:

In this episode, we have our first installment of a special new mini series titled Living Your Activism. In this series, we're talking to activists and advocates across a wide variety of missions and passions about how they found their thing, what they do to stay grounded and connected with joy amidst all the chaos in the world, and what it means to truly live their activism, not just as a checkbox or some burnout inducing giant commitment, but as something that's interwoven throughout their life in a nourishing, sustainable way.Our guest for this first installment is Ella Magers, MSW, a holistic fitness rebel on a mission to ignite fierce compassion and revolutionize what it means to be healthy and fit.She’s a thought-leader, professional speaker, podcast host, and the dynamic creator and host of the Evolution of Fitness with Ella YouTube show—a space where strength meets soul and transformation goes way beyond the physical.Vegan since 1995, Ella holds a Master’s in Social Work and is a certified personal trainer, yoga instructor, and food freedom coach. With over two decades of experience in the wellness space, she’s helped thousands break free from toxic diet culture, rewire self-sabotaging patterns, and build powerful, plant-strong bodies they love living in.Ella is a former bikini bodybuilding champion and lifelong athlete who blends mindset, movement, and plant-based nutrition into transformational coaching that sticks. She was named one of the world’s top trainers by Bodybuilding.com and Shape Magazine, and serves on the board of Hogs & Kisses Farm Sanctuary.Based in Miami Beach, you’ll find her training, teaching, filming, and adventuring with her beloved rescue chihuahua, Fiona.This episode covers:01:39 - Tea & Crumpets: Emerson’s experience with trying hair glossing05:07 - Step Into My Office: Can seasonal depression happen in summer?10:26 - Living Your Activism Interview with Ella Magers40:46 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: A triple organ transplant recipient met with his donors familyResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Triple organ transplant recipient meets with donors familyConnect with Ella Magers:Website: https://www.ellamagers.comIG: @sexyfitvegan Connect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website:...

While the thought of telling a group of strangers about your inner feelings can be scary for many people, group therapy can actually be incredibly powerful. In this episode, we explore the roots of group therapy, the different types of groups, the benefits, times when group therapy is and isn’t a good fit, and resources for finding a group appropriate for your healing journey.This episode covers:06:21 - Tea & Crumpets: Handmaid’s Tale Season 6 and Flow12:46 - Step Into My Office: Group therapy after higher levels of treatment15:40 - The Lore: The story of Emerson getting stuck in a stampede in New Orleans21:54 - The DSM: The Power of Group Therapy53:04 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!54:42 - Emerson’s Pick: "Whole Again" by Atomic Kitten56:56 - Valerie’s Pick: "Tell Him" by Celine Dion & Barbra Streisand57:41 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: The Offline Club and the Alliance for Texas HistoryResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Handmaid’s TaleFlow"Whole Again" by Atomic Kitten"Tell Him" by Celine Dion & Barbra StreisandThe Offline ClubAlliance for Texas Historydoesthedogdie.comCoop Cool+ pillowAthletic Brewing Upside DawnThe Theory and Practice of Group Psychotherapywww.gaiacenter.co/groupsConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG:

Spirituality, religion, and being “woo-woo” are all hot topics these days – especially here in Nashville!In this episode, Val and Emerson tackle WTF spirituality actually means, how it differs from religion, how it intertwines with existentialism, and low-stakes ways to engage with it while also avoiding spiritual bypassing.And, as always, we get into other good stuff, including a spooky airBNB story from Val’s cousin (and The Gaia Center’s Director of Operations) Rebecca 👻This episode covers:06:04 - Tea & Crumpets: Val’s new cooking routine + Emerson’s obsession with Swig10:32 - Step Into My Office: Impermanence and Existentialism14:32 - The Lore: Rebecca’s Spooky AirBNB experience19:54 - The DSM: The Spirituality, Religion + Woo Woo Conundrum50:26 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!52:48 - Val Pick: "Goose Snow Cone" by Aimee Mann53:50 - "Older" by Lizzy McAlpine54:58 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: How a music conductor is navigating Parkinson’s Disease + South Africa’s ‘soccer grannies’ take the field for kicks and camaraderieResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Pew Research on Millennials and ReligionJohn Welwood (spiritual bypassing)Goose Snow Cone by Aimee MannOlder by Lizzy McAlpineConductor with Parkinson’s Gets Brain Stimulation Device to Stop Shakes so He Can Lead Orchestra Once AgainSouth Africa’s ‘soccer grannies’ take the field for kicks and camaraderieConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit www.findahelpline.com for international resources.

For many people, hearing “couples therapy” brings up the idea of a relationship being in crisis or on the brink of ending – and while couples therapy can be impactful in those cases, there is so much more to it and so many other circumstances where it can be beneficial. In this episode, Valerie and Emerson get into what couples therapy really is, when it’s helpful, when it’s not helpful, and suggestions for what to look for if you’re interested in couples therapy. This episode covers:00:03:23 - Tea & Crumpets: Zumba at the YMCA + Harmen Hoek00:06:53 - The Lore: How Couples Therapy Helped Val00:14:46 - The DSM: What Couples Therapy Really Is00:53:20 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!00:55:27 - Em Pick: "A Thousand Trees" by Stereophonics00:57:13 - Val Pick: "In Keeping Secrets of Earth: 3" by Coheed & Cambria00:58:31 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: How Massachusetts became the only state to reduce food waste + how a 90 year old woman has saved over 10,000 animalsResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Harmen HoekA Thousand Trees- by StereophonicsIn Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3 - by Coheed and CambriaWaste not, want not? How Massachusetts became the only state to reduce food waste90 year old woman has saved over 10,000 animalsGottman MethodEmotion Focused TherapyImagoRLTPACTConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit

Despite misinformed pop culture statements, OCD isn’t a punchline—it’s a chronic brain loop that can be incredibly challenging for individuals to receive the care they need. In this episode, Val and Em get into the ins-and-outs of OCD, including suggestions for folks who are struggling with it, as well as folks who have a friend or loved one who is struggling. And, as always, we get into plenty of other fun stuff including TV recs and some hopeful headlines – like a rancher’s dog rescuing an infant 🥹This episode covers:04:40 - Tea & Crumpets: The Last of Us + Good American Family08:07 - Step Into My Office: Is it just overthinking or is it OCD?12:53 - The DSM: Why OCD Is NOT Just Being “So Organized”36:37 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!40:50 - Val’s Pick: "Leave" by Glen Hansard (Live at Stubb's BBQ)43:50 - Em’s Pick: "twilight zone" by Ariana Grande45:56 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Hundreds of volunteers helping an indie bookseller move spaces + a rancher’s dog leading an infant to safetyResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Long durations from symptom onset to diagnosis and from diagnosis to treatment in obsessive-compulsive disorder: A retrospective self-report studyThriving in Relationships When You Have OCD bookHundreds of Volunteers Form a Human Chain to Get 9,000 Books to New Location for Indie BookstoreA true good boy: rancher’s dog leads two-year-old Arizona child to safetyGlen Hansard "Leave" - Live at Stubb's BBQ"twilight zone" by Ariana GrandeConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG:

If you’ve ever struggled with a rough inner critic, you’re not alone. While the judgments of the world can certainly get in the way of living your best life, we’re often our own worst enemies. But the good news is that Valerie and Emerson have you covered with a deep dive into the psychology of self-criticism and tips for how to navigate it. And, as always, we get into plenty of other fun stuff, like what “Queening Out” means 💁🏻‍♀️This episode covers:04:21 - Tea & Crumpets: Book Lovers by Emily Henry and Dense Bean Salad07:41 - Step Into My Office: Navigating shame for not “being productive”10:58 - The DSM: Let’s Talk About The The Inner Critic37:55 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY!39:14 - Emerson Pick: "Leave (Get Out)" by JoJo40:23 - Valerie Pick: "Grace" by Conventional Wisdom45:50 - Wait...What? - Queening Out47:19 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Cory Booker + Expanded Emergency Contraceptive Access in EnglandResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Book Lovers by Emily HenrySecond Arrow of Suffering Principle Leave (Get Out) by JoJoGrace by Conventional Wisdom@posterjournal on IGCory Booker segmentMorning after pill to be offered without charge in pharmacies across EnglandConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit www.findahelpline.com for international resources.

If you’ve struggled to build or maintain friendships as an adult, you’re not alone – and in this episode, we’ve got you covered!This episode covers:02:20 - Tea & Crumpets: Adolescence on Netflix + Lights On audio documentary07:44 - Step Into My Office: Tips for a fizzling friendship12:41 - The DSM: Seeking/Building Adult Friendships in these trying times32:41 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY! 34:16 - Val’s Pick: "Graduation (Friends Forever)" by Vitamin C35:03 - Em’s Pick: "Count on Me" by Bruno Mars35:12 - Fire Dumpster Phoenix: Gene therapy for sickle cell anemia + a trapped dolphin galvanizing a cleanup crew Resources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode: Lights on audio documentary“Math Lady” memeAdolescence on NetflixIntergenerational relationships articleGraduation (Friends Forever) by Vitamin CCount on Me by Bruno MarsGround Breaking Gene Therapy Treatment Cured Sickle Cell AnemiaA dolphin trapped in a Florida waterway galvanized this cleanup teamConnect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit www.findahelpline.com for international resources.

Today’s episode is so exciting as we have our first guest external to The Gaia Center – the phenomenal Jayne Mattingly.JAYNE MATTINGLY is a disability advocate and eating disorder helping professional. She is also the Founder of the non-for-profit The AND Initiative, which aims to provide inspiration, advocacy, resources, support, and the gifting mobility aids to those with chronic illness and physical disabilities. Jayne lives in South Carolina with her husband and pets.Through her personal experiences and in sharing the stories from everyday people, Jayne illustrates that our body has not and will never be against us. Her new book, THIS IS BODY GRIEF is where we begin.This episode covers:02:17 - Tea & Crumpets: Apple Cider Vinegar on Netflix, Structured app, and Kendrick Lamar at the Superbowl Halftime Show11:10 - Step Into My Office: Puberty and all the feels it brings17:57 - The Lore: Jayne’s experiences with menopause in her 30s25:00 - The DSM: Body Grief50:04 - Now That's What I Call...OKAAAAY! "Supergirl" by Krystal HarrisResources + Stuff  Mentioned in This Episode:Supergirl by Krystal HarrisApple Cider Vinegar on NetflixStructured appConnect with Jayne Mattingly:Website: https://www.jaynemattingly.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaynemattingly/?hl=en Buy THIS IS BODY GRIEF: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/740125/this-is-body-grief-by-jayne-mattingly/ Connect with Us:Send a story or ask for advice: butforrealpod@gmail.com But For Real on IG: @butforrealpodNow That's What I Call... OKAAAAY PlaylistThe Gaia Center on IG: @thegaiacenterVal on IG: @valkaymartinThe Gaia Center website: www.gaiacenter.co DISCLAIMER: But For Real Podcast is not a substitute for individualized mental health treatment or healthcare. This podcast is solely for entertainment and educational purposes. If you are in crisis, please utilize crisis support services, such as the Crisis Text Line (Text START to 741741 in the US) or the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: (Call 988 in the US), or visit www.findahelpline.com for international resources.