Down The Well

What if the transition to motherhood isn't just about diapers and sleepless nights... but a profound archetypal shift that reshapes your entire being? In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the often overlooked journey from maiden to mother. She peels back the layers of societal pressure, personal resistance, and the bittersweet beauty of this transformation. Are you clinging to your "maiden" self even as you navigate motherhood? You're not alone. This isn't just about having kids—it's about saying yes to a fuller, vaster version of yourself. Ready to step into your power? 🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations on motherhood, identity, and becoming. 💬 Comment below: What's been the hardest part of your maiden-to-mother transition? Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 00:40 - Understanding the archetypes 02:43 - Why we resist the mother 09:20 - Three lies holding us back 16:27 - The gifts of motherhood 20:32 - Missed your maiden years? 23:35 - Integrating maiden and mother Show Links: Oura Ring: https://ouraring.com/product/rings Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠y Listen to Down The Well: Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. SEO Keywords: transformational motherhood, maiden archetype, mother archetype, matriarch archetype, women's developmental phases, releasing maidenhood, embracing motherhood, cultural expectations, societal pressures, aging and beauty, body acceptance, self-discovery, personal growth, life transitions, motherhood challenges, work-life balance, self-care for mothers, identity shifts, parenting journey, female empowerment, archetypal psychology, women's spirituality, intergenerational wisdom, life stages, personal transformation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the heart of modern motherhood's greatest paradox: How do we find wholeness in a role that seems to demand we shatter ourselves into a million pieces? Drawing inspiration from Ann Morrow Lindbergh's timeless wisdom, Elle explores the concept of "Zerissinheit"—that torn-to-pieces feeling so many mothers know all too well. But here's the plot twist: What if fragmentation isn't our destiny, but our chrysalis? Elle challenges the notion that mothers must sacrifice everything on the altar of caregiving. Instead, she offers a radical new vision: motherhood as a catalyst for profound personal growth and self-discovery. 🔔 Ready to revolutionize your approach to motherhood? Hit subscribe and join the wholeness revolution! 💬 Share below: What fills your "source" and makes you feel most alive? Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 03:03 - Unpacking "Zerrissenheit" 08:40 - The audacity of maternal time off 15:49 - Your motherhood HR department 23:00 - Restoration through deep presence Show Links: "Gift from the Sea" by Ann Morrow Lindbergh: https://www.amazon.com/Gift-50th-Anniversary-Anne-Morrow-Lindbergh/dp/0679732411 Oura Ring: https://ouraring.com/product/rings Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠y Listen to Down The Well: Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. SEO Keywords: motherhood challenges, work-life balance, self-care for mothers, Ann Morrow Lindbergh, Gifts from the Sea, torn-to-pieces-hood, wholeness in motherhood, maternal burnout, solitude for mothers, nurturing source, creative pursuits, maternal identity, family dynamics, personal growth, maternal well-being, time management for mothers, maternal mental health, parenting strategies, maternal restoration, mindful motherhood, maternal boundaries, purposeful giving, maternal self-reflection, maternal resilience, balancing motherhood roles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 14: Elle dives deep into the often-overlooked middle years of marriage with couples coach Natalie Clay. They explore the hidden treasures and challenges of long-term partnerships, offering a fresh perspective on what it means to truly grow together. Are you feeling more like roommates than soulmates? Struggling with communication or emotional self-reliance? This episode can be your lifeline. Natalie shares powerful insights on: • The importance of emotional self-reliance (without losing connection) • Transforming conflicts into opportunities for growth • Embracing vulnerability as the key to deeper intimacy It's time to rewrite the narrative of the "boring" middle years. Let's discover how this phase can be the most transformative and rewarding chapter of your love story. 🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations about relationships, personal growth, and the journey of becoming. 💬 Comment below: What's been your biggest challenge (or unexpected joy) in the middle years of your relationship? Timestamps: 0:00 Intro: Middle years of marriage discussion 5:12 Emotional self-reliance in relationships 10:12 Dealing with insecurities in marriage 20:24 Why couples feel like roommates 25:05 Physical intimacy and mismatched desire 36:29 Parenting differences in marriage 42:42 Radical acceptance in relationships 49:41 Navigating different parenting approaches 55:41 The role of mystery in marriage 57:05 Hidden strengths of middle years 1:02:15 Lightning round: Marriage advice Show Links: Natalie Clay Coaching Couples Coaching with Natalie Clay podcast @Natalieclaycoaching on Instagram Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle _____ Listen to Down The Well: Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠ Apple:  ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠ Amazon: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠ _____ About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. SEO Keywords: marriage coaching, emotional self-reliance, middle years of marriage, couples communication, vulnerability in relationships, conflict resolution, parenting differences, intimacy challenges, personal growth in marriage, marriage struggles, emotional connection, self-compassion, relationship dynamics, marriage expectations, long-term commitment, marital conflict, relationship coaching, marriage counseling, emotional intimacy, relationship vulnerability, marriage longevity, relationship autonomy, marriage challenges, relationship growth, marriage satisfaction Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 13: What if the key to unlocking your creative genius lies in the pages of a century-old novel? In this episode, Elle Rowley shares another installment in her series of Portrait of a Matriarch. She takes us on a journey through the life of the matriarch, Lucy Maud Montgomery, creator of Anne of Green Gables and unexpected mentor to generations of dreamers. From Prince Edward Island's red-clay roads to the depths of personal struggle, we explore how Montgomery's resilience and creativity shaped a literary legacy that still resonates today. Elle shares her 5 favorite lessons she learned from studying Maud’s complex life, and the gems of wisdom she took from her matriarchal years: Success comes from small and simple things done consistently Creativity can offer resilience and beauty in the bleakest of circumstances What other people think of you is none of your business Nature is a constant source of wonder and healing The matriarch is the wise woman Are you ready to find your own "Green Gables" of the soul? Share with us what lesson resonates with you as a current or future matriarch. Timestamps: 0:00 Intro: Lucy Maud Montgomery's impact 5:07 Childhood and early life of Montgomery 10:15 Writing career and publishing Anne of Green Gables 15:23 Marriage, motherhood, and personal struggles 20:35 Five lessons from Lucy Maud Montgomery's life 25:44 Creativity as resilience in difficult circumstances 31:25 Overcoming fear of others' opinions 37:33 Nature as inspiration and solace 42:38 Montgomery's message to future generations 47:13 Reflecting on Montgomery's legacy and impact Show Links: "Lucy Maud Montgomery: The Gift of Wings" by Mary Henley Rubio: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Lucy-Maud-Montgomery-Gift-Wings/dp/0385667604⁠ Anne of Green Gables (1985) starring Megan Follows Anne of Green Gables, 1908 edition: https://www.amazon.com/Anne-Green-Gables-Original-Montgomery/dp/B0BTNNMXBV Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠ _____ Listen to Down The Well: Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠ Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠ Amazon: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠ _____ About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. SEO Keywords: Lucy Maud Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables, Canadian literature, Prince Edward Island, creative writing, childhood imagination, resilience through creativity, matriarchal lessons, mental health struggles, literary success, consistent writing habits, nature inspiration, character development, female authors, early 20th century literature, overcoming rejection, balancing motherhood and career, societal expectations, personal journals, childhood abandonment, community gossip, self-doubt in writing, nature as solace, literary legacy, historical fiction Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Season 2 Episode 1: What if motherhood isn't just about raising children, but a profound journey of self-discovery and transformation? Elle is back with another season and starts us out with this soul-stirring episode, she dives deep into the concept of the "mother's hero's journey," inspired by Lisa Marchiano's groundbreaking work. She unravels the seven stages of this journey, from the initial call to adventure to the triumphant return—each step a potential for growth, challenge, and rebirth. The 7 Stages Elle discusses: 1. Departure from ordinary world 2. The call to adventure 3. The descent 4. Meeting the shadow 5. Receiving help and inner wisdom 6. Integration and transformation 7. Return and Contribution This episode goes beyond theory. Elle shares deeply personal stories from her own journey through motherhood—the disorientation, the growth, the unexpected beauty. From sleepless nights that unravel the ego to moments of reckoning with fear and identity, her reflections offer something every mother will recognize. If you've ever wondered whether the everyday trials of motherhood hold deeper meaning, this conversation is for you. What if the hero’s journey isn’t out there—but right here, in your own kitchen, carpool, and quiet breakdowns? Subscribe for more spirit-awakening explorations of motherhood, identity, and personal growth. Comment below: What stage of the mother's hero's journey resonates most with you right now? Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction to the mother's hero's journey 06:00 - Breaking down the seven stages 12:00 - Ego death and motherhood 18:00 - Shadow work and integration 24:00 - Finding wisdom in unexpected places 30:00 - The alchemy of transformation 36:00 - Returning with gifts: How mothers change the world 42:00 - Elle's personal childbirth story Show Links: "Motherhood: Finding and Facing Yourself" by Lisa Marchiano - https://lisamarchiano.com/books/ Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey - https://www.amazon.com/Heros-Journey-Joseph-Campbell-Collected/dp/1608681890/ref=asc_df_1608681890?m... Down The Well Links: Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle _____ Listen to Down The Well: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644 Amazon: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt _____ About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 11: In a world that feels increasingly fractured, overwhelmed, and chaotic—what if peace begins not with politicians, but with parents? In this powerful episode, Elle explores how world peace starts at home. She draws a straight line between how we engage with our children and how we shape the future of our society. This is not about perfection—it’s about presence, intention, and radical gentleness. 🔔 Subscribe for more soul-grounded conversations from the edge of motherhood, identity, and becoming. 💬 Comment below: What does peace look like in your home? Timestamps: 04:38 - 3 Keys to Peace at Home 04:45 - Teaching peace 09:45 - Safeguarding our homes 18:56 - Cultivating inner peace 24:29 - World Peace Begins at Home t-shirts Show Links: World Peace Begins At Home t-shirts The Humble Village Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠⁠ ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 10: What happens when your body changes… and the world doesn’t talk about it? In this honest episode, Elle speaks with Chelsea Etheridge, founder of Not Young, a supplement company geared towards women in perimenopause. Chelsea shares how navigating perimenopause became the unexpected spark for personal transformation and the creation of her platform, Not Young. She opens up about aging, identity, and why the “maiden-obsessed” culture is due for a rewrite. Take a listen... Timestamps: 01:46 - Chelsea's story 09:05 - Story of Not Young 10:25 - Signs of perimenopause 16:16 - View on aging 19:03 - Plot twist! 20:18 - Husband's health 26:44 - Mothering today 35:20 - Future of Not Young Show Links: Not Young Discount Code: SR69JVRINV Not Young. Better. podcast Not Young Instagram Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠ This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠ Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠ ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 9: Motherhood can feel like a storm—loud, chaotic, and completely overwhelming. But what if the key to peace isn’t fixing the storm... but learning how to stand still within it? In this episode of Down the Well, Elle dives into six timeless Stoic principles that can transform the way you approach parenting. These lessons offer clarity, peace, and strength for the mother. Take a listen... Timestamps: 01:22 - What is Stoicism 01:59 - Principle #1 04:40 - Principle #2 05:32 - Principle #3 06:15 - Principle #4 07:54 - Mantras 08:30 - Principle #5 10:40 - Principle #6 Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠ This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠here⁠⁠ Elle's Substack - ⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠ Elle's Instagram - ⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠ ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 8: On the path of the mother's hero's journey, we are often confronted with challenges. As we strive to navigate these obstacles with open-heartedness, curiosity, and humility, sometimes we fall short and allow our emotions to take control. A certified life coach, Elle teaches proven and practical techniques for on-the-spot emotional regulation that will help any mom become the person she wants to be. Take a listen... Timestamps: 00:21 - Understanding the Mother's Hero's Journey 01:26 - Challenges and Emotions in Motherhood 06:13  - Tools for Self-Coaching: The 1-2-3 Approach 16:02 - Thought Model - CTFAR  27:53 -  Conclusion and Final Thoughts Down The Well Links: Episode 2 with Lisa Marchiano here & on YouTube Check out Down The Well on ⁠YouTube⁠ This episode on YouTube found ⁠here⁠ Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 7: Education is an essential part of parenting. Yet, the decision of how to best educate your children when you're down the proverbial well may feel overwhelming from the number of options, the best fit for each child, or frustration with your current situation. Elle speaks with Liz Black, an education specialist and consultant, about the benefits of homebased schooling. Take a listen... Timestamps: 03:15 - why homeschool is gaining popularity 09:40 - homeschool vs. homebased education 14:06 - what and how to teach 15:43 - will my child get into college with a homeschool education 16:55 - will my child fall behind 18:32 - phases of learning 24:12 - enough socialization 26:40 - extra curricular activities 28:15 - where to start homeschooling 28:58 - can I work and homeschool 30:31 - can families without financial resources homeschool 33:43 - what if I mess this homeschool thing up 39:29 - markers of success 47:17 - what if you're feeling homeschool is not hitting the mark Down The Well Links: Alcott Learning Check out Down The Well on YouTube This episode on YouTube found here Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 6: In our pursuit of a meaningful life, perhaps the answers we seek are found in the past. In this episode of Down The Well, Elle talks about the 5 life-changing lessons from the well known American matriarch, Grandma Moses. Find out how this humble woman led a life of pure inspiration. Take a listen... Timestamps: 08:42 - Lesson #1 15:57 - Lesson #2 22:46 - Lesson #3 29:29 - Lesson #4 34:05 - Lesson #5 Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on YouTube This episode on YouTube found here Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 5: We are so afraid of aging - just think about all the anti-aging products, procedures, and plans. This cultural obsession with youthfulness is taking over the female journey of maiden to mother to matriarch. Elle discusses the importance of this journey and how each female archetype enlightens, inspires and helps us evolve as women. Take a listen... Timestamps: 03:28 - The Maiden 06:58 - The Mother 16:33 - The Matriarch Links: Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on YouTube This episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4 Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 4: The addiction to sugar is real. It affects how we think and feel. So, Elle and her family took on the challenge of one year without sugar. Listen to how they did it, the challenges, the benefits and more. Links: Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on YouTube This episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4 Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 3: What is true self-care? What does it mean to a mother? On this episode of Down The Well, Elle explores the meaning of true self-care and not simply the distractions or indulgences that the world offers. Take a listen to the suggestions she gives mothers to help them live their best life. Links: Yoga Nidra Videos The Fourth Trimester: A Postpartum Guide to Healing Your Body, Balancing Your Emotions, and Restoring Your Vitality Down The Well Links: Check out Down The Well on YouTube This episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4 Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley ----- About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 2: Our first guest on Down The Well is Lisa Marchiano, a psychotherapist, Jungian analyst, and author. Lisa's work is the inspiration for this podcast as she discusses the mother's hero's journey, how it is connected to falling down a well and becoming a new person. Take a listen to this inspiring interview. Timestamps: 01:17 - Lisa's background 03:03 - Falling down the well 08:15 - What is the hero's journey for a mother 14:40 - Difference between sacrifice and martyrdom 19:44 - The idea of the eternal girl 27:27 - Navigating old wounds with our children 45:54 - Understanding rage Notes: Lisa Marchiano Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself This Jungian Life podcast YouTube: @Down-The-Well https://substack.com/@ellerowley https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley/ ------ Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices