Father Figures

<p>Father Figures is a podcast designed for fathers, hosted by two experienced dads with diverse parenting backgrounds. Justin, a pastor and father of five, and Heath, a single parent and comic, discuss fatherhood through a Christian faith perspective. They aim to make fathering and faith real, relatable, and relational, offering listeners practical advice, wisdom, and encouragement.</p>

Personal Pivots for Parents and Preachers

In this season finale of Father Figures, Justin and Heath reflect on what makes change worthwhile as parents navigating the constant evolution of family life. From discovering new levels of exhaustion to learning when to hold on and when to let go, they explore the delicate balance between providing for our families and finding moments of peace for ourselves. The conversation meanders through childhood concert memories (Amy Grant and Elton John, anyone?), the challenge of self-care when you're always "on," and how understanding our kids' neurodiversity helped them understand themselves better. They discuss the pressure of following up "perfect days" with ordinary Tuesdays, the wisdom of sitting still, and why becoming a "non-anxious presence" might be the most important gift we can give our children. With their signature mix of depth and lightheartedness, Justin and Heath wrap up the season by examining what it means to mature continuously as fathers—learning to stop trying to fix everything, embracing boredom as a form of peace, and discovering that wherever you go, there you are. Perfect for parents in the thick of it who need permission to stop, breathe, and maybe watch just thirty minutes of TV without guilt.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

10-31
48:42

Steve Biddulph's Blueprint for Raising Boys: A Real Test with Four Sons

In this special episode of Father Figures, Justin sits down with his sons Noah (19), Luca (17), Ari (12), and Quinn (9) for an honest conversation about growing up male. Using Steve Biddulph's "Raising Boys" framework as a starting point, they discuss the three key developmental stages boys go through and explore questions about male role models, emotional intelligence, and what it's really like being raised in their household.From wrestling on the floor to navigating feelings, from memorable teachers to trusted mentors, the boys share their perspectives on everything from boundary-setting to whether their dad has done a "pretty awesome job" (spoiler: they're diplomatic). It's candid, funny, and full of the kind of authentic family dynamics you don't usually hear on podcasts—including Luca's light sensitivity struggles, AJ's take on affectionate vs. mean jokes between brothers, and Quinn's very strategic answer about his favourite parent. Whether you're raising boys yourself or just curious about what father-son relationships look like in real time, this episode offers rare insight into how connection, correction, and just showing up shapes the next generation of men.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

10-24
26:09

When the Fixer Needs Fixing: Matthew Cheal on Parenting, Loss, and Learning Vulnerability

In this deeply personal episode, Justin sits down with Matthew Cheal-a management professional who's spent his career fixing broken organisations, but discovered that life's biggest challenges can't be solved with an org chart. From navigating the emotional rollercoaster of eleven rounds of IVF to rebuilding after divorce, Matt shares how he's learned that true strength isn't about having all the answers-it's about asking for help. Matt opens up about the journey from tech school to McDonald's management, the compassion he discovered while working in community services, and why being a father requires a completely different kind of resilience than any workplace ever taught him. With refreshing honesty (and a few confessions about his relationship with clothes pegs and McDonald's bag-folding), this conversation explores what it means to be a non-anxious presence in your home while carrying your own anxiety, and why the most powerful thing a man can say is simply: "I need help." Whether you're navigating major life transitions, struggling with fertility challenges, or just trying to figure out how to be present for your family when you're running on 25% battery, this episode offers hard-won wisdom wrapped in genuine friendship and a shared love of Formula One.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

10-17
01:08:33

From Rock Star Dreams to Holy Dependence: Andrew Kitchen's Anxiety Journey

In this deeply honest conversation, musician and NDIS support worker Andrew Kitchen (Antiskeptic) sits down with host Justin to discuss his recent journey through chronic anxiety, the deconstruction of ego, and discovering what remains when achievement can no longer define you. Andrew opens up about canceling his band's tour in November 2024 due to a severe anxiety episode, the wisdom his wife Katie offered about thirty years of buildup requiring more than twelve months to heal, and learning to recognize when his body was misinterpreting basic needs as anxiety. From his childhood as a pastor's kid to his work helping others write songs through the NDIS, Andrew reflects on the pastoral heart that runs through both his music and his mental health journey. This episode explores the reality of middle-aged fatherhood, the challenge of "limping in public" as musician Ben Harper encouraged him to do, and the semicolon movement for those who've faced suicidal ideation. Andrew shares the tattoos on his arms written in Star Wars Aurebesh script—"beauty from brokenness" and "strength in dependence"—and how these themes have become the anchors of his life. For fathers navigating their own mental health struggles, those supporting loved ones through anxiety, or anyone reconsidering what defines them beyond their achievements, this conversation offers hard-won wisdom, practical encouragement, and the reminder that sometimes "this is all I have left" is exactly where transformation begins. Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of mental health challenges, anxiety, and suicidal ideation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

10-03
56:37

5 Deaths, 50 Street Kids, 1 Life-Changing Lesson with David Drummond

In this deeply moving episode of Father Figures, Justin sits down with counselor and pastor Dave Drummond for a raw conversation about overcoming childhood trauma and finding authentic purpose. Dave shares his journey from a broken home marked by abuse to becoming a father, minister, and healer who has literally died and come back to serve others. From their unlikely first meeting when Justin was 14 (involving a Larry Norman album and a youth rally poster), to Dave's massive heart attack that left him dead for 45 minutes, this conversation explores the cost of serving others and the power of authentic living. Dave opens up about growing up without a father figure, finding safety in an empty church as a child, and how his own wounds became the source of his calling to "comfort others with the comfort he received." Whether you're struggling with your own past, questioning your purpose as a father, or simply trying to live authentically in a world full of expectations, Dave's story offers hope and practical wisdom. He discusses his counseling practice, the difference between happiness and contentment, and why he believes our authentic selves—not our wounds or unrealistic dreams—are our greatest gifts to the world. This isn't just another feel-good story—it's an honest look at what it means to be whole enough to serve others while staying true to who you really are. Note: This episode contains discussions of childhood trauma and abuse.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

09-26
45:00

“It Was Forced on Me — and It Changed Me Forever”: Paul Bugg on Family, Sport & Inclusion

In this episode of Father Figures, Justin sits down with Paul Bugg — long-time president of the Sharks Basketball Club, husband, dad, and proud “Pa Bugg” to his grandkids. Paul opens up about raising his son Andy, who has Down syndrome, and how advocating for him shaped both his family life and his leadership in the community. From coaching under-10s to creating opportunities for all abilities teams, Paul shares what it means to step up when you see gaps, why anger doesn’t solve problems, and how love and persistence can spark lasting change. Plus, hear Andy drop in at the end with his take on basketball, lunch, and who his favourite parent really is.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

09-19
33:38

Parenting Plot Twists: When Kids Rewrite the Rules & Managing Change

Justin and Heath dive deep into the ever-changing world of parenting - from the chaos of newborn days and surprise birthing stories to the challenges of raising teens in a digital age. They share honest reflections on how kids reshape family life, what it means to navigate constant change, and the small anchor points that help dads (and kids) find stability. With plenty of laughs, real-life stories, and raw honesty, this conversation reminds us that while change is inevitable, how we manage it makes all the difference.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

09-12
34:22

Laying It Down, Leaving a Legacy: Father’s Day with Phil Gaudion & Don Gall

In this touching episode, hosts Justin & Heath share their own experience and key memories of previous Father's Days. Justin and Heath sit down with two inspiring dads. First, they chat with Phil Gaudion, who shares stories from his unique journey as a drummer and a football club chaplain. Phil opens up about what fatherhood truly means to him - laying down personal ambitions to make his family his top priority. Later, Justin has a heartfelt conversation with his own dad, Don Gall, who reflects on the ups and downs of fatherhood and the reality of not always getting it right. It’s an honest, moving, and hope-filled episode about legacy, sacrifice, and the imperfect but beautiful role of being a dad.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

09-06
58:17

"That Guilt and Shame Just Vanished": Matt 360's Journey Through Addiction & Redemption

In this powerful episode of Father Figures, Justin sits down with Australian rapper Matt 360 to explore a raw and redemptive story of family, addiction, and faith. Matt opens up about his journey from a middle-class Lutheran school kid in Croydon, Melbourne, to becoming a platinum-selling artist caught in the grip of prescription drug addiction, and ultimately finding healing through Christ. The conversation delves deep into the complex relationship between Matt and his father - a man who sacrificed everything to provide for his family while trying to protect his sons from the very demons that had claimed his own parents to alcoholism. We hear about the guilt, shame, and people-pleasing that nearly destroyed Matt, his overdose on tour, and the moment everything changed when he encountered the gospel. Matt shares candidly about living with his parents and brother today, the regimented life that keeps him grounded, and how his understanding of God as Father has transformed his relationship with his earthly father. This episode explores themes of forgiveness, redemption, the power of authentic masculinity, and what it means to be "perfected" rather than perfect in faith. A story of second chances, family restoration, and the healing power of understanding our identity as beloved sons.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

08-31
01:00:40

The Man Behind the Golden Buzzer: Mitch Tambo's Raw Truth About Healing and Fatherhood

Indigenous Australian artist Mitch Tambo went from social worker to AGT sensation in a whirlwind journey that would test everything he thought he knew about himself. But behind the golden buzzers and stadium crowds was a man learning to heal childhood anxiety, navigate blended family life, and break generational patterns. In this raw conversation, Mitch shares how holding his 18-month-old daughter helped him finally understand his absent father, why he had to learn to "father the younger version of himself," and how surfing with his late dad's boards became a turning point in his healing journey. From singing in his native language to create "true reconciliation" with audiences, to the daily juggle of being both a touring artist and present father of four, this is a story about courage, culture, and the ongoing work of becoming the man your children need you to be.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

08-22
51:12

"We're Old Enough to Know We Don't Know Everything": Welcome To Season 3

Welcome to Season 3 of Father Figures! Hosts Justin and Heath reunite to share what's changed in their lives over the past year - and what hasn't. Heath opens up about his intense hostile environment training course for his new role at World Vision, complete with mock hostage situations and cable-tie escape techniques. Meanwhile, Justin reflects on finally doing his graduation ceremony and the surprising power of marking life's milestones. Both dads discuss the ongoing challenge of work-life balance, the importance of recognising when your nervous system needs a reset, and why calling a friend during tough moments can make all the difference. From celebrating small wins to navigating major life transitions, this episode captures the reality of fatherhood in your 40s. The guys remind us that sometimes the best part of change is simply having the courage to jump - even when you can't see where you'll land. Plus, stick around for a multi-layered dad joke courtesy of Heath's middle child that might just keep you thinking for the next 30-40 minutes. Father Figures: Real conversations about fatherhood, faith, and finding your way through the middle-age grind.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

08-15
43:22

Mothers on Father Figures - Lucy Holmes & Jodi Gall Open Up About Truth, Love, and Loss

Join host Justin Michael for this heartwarming Mother's Day special episode of Father Figures. In a departure from the regular format, Justin welcomes women in his life to share their perspectives on motherhood, parenting challenges, and family bonds. The episode begins with an intimate conversation with Justin's wife Jodi, who opens up about her 19 years of motherhood experience, cherished memories, and how her approach to parenting has evolved over time. Their son Ari makes a guest appearance, offering his eight-year-old perspective on what makes his mum special. Later, radio personality and performer Lucy Holmes shares her unique journey from single motherhood to navigating a blended family of seven. Her candid stories about Mother's Day memories, family traditions, and finding strength through community offer both encouragement and practical wisdom for listeners in all stages of parenthood. Filled with genuine laughter, touching moments, and practical parenting insights, this episode celebrates the mothers who shape our lives while acknowledging the challenges they face. Whether you're a mother, have a mother, or are in a mothering role, this conversation reminds us of the profound impact maternal love has on families and how we can better honour the mothers in our lives—not just on Mother's Day, but every day.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

05-09
54:29

Ryan Moloney on Accountability, Working The Plan & Authentic Parenting (Part 2)

Continue the conversation, with guest Ryan Moloney as Justin and Heath dive deep into life's accountability, hyperfocus, and authentic parenting. The guys get real about achieving goals, personal responsibility, and creating meaningful family connections. Today they discuss: How Ryan realised that you can achieve anything in life when you "work the plan" Heath's candid admission about how Ryan's motivational presence pushed him during their training sessions together The superpower of hyperfocus that has fueled Ryan's achievements throughout his life Ryan's thoughtful approach to technology with his children—from initially withholding smartphones to now navigating screen time boundaries with his teens The beautiful reality of a marriage where both partners can embrace each other's "crazy" with understanding and love Ryan's powerful method for having deep conversations with his kids by starting with "If I die, I want you to..." The unexpected gifts that come with ADD—the ability to focus intensely on goals and push beyond limitations This episode is a powerful reminder that sometimes the most important thing we can do is lovingly speak difficult truths sooner rather than later. Justin and Heath offer a thought-provoking conversation about accountability, presence, and authentic connection in both parenting and life.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

04-18
39:45

27 Years as Toadie: The Price of Fame & Finding Joy with Ryan Moloney

Australian TV icon Ryan Moloney joins Heath and Justin for a refreshingly honest conversation that dives into his legendary almost 30-year run as "Toadfie" on Neighbours and so much more. In this revealing episode, Ryan opens up about the price of fame, how he manages hyper-attention, and the recent major changes in his career. With remarkable candor, Ryan discusses ADHD and shares practical strategies that have helped him navigate both professional demands and personal life. His perspective offers valuable insights for anyone dealing with similar challenges. The conversation takes a heartwarming turn when Ryan shares the special activities he's created to connect with his son, offering a glimpse into his life as a devoted father away from the cameras. As he discusses his approach to keeping life simple and fun now that his Neighbours chapter has closed, listeners will appreciate his down-to-earth philosophy and genuine outlook. Whether you're a longtime Neighbours fan or simply interested in authentic conversations about life's transitions, this episode delivers unexpected wisdom, genuine laughs, and a new appreciation for the man behind one of Australia's most beloved TV characters. Part 2 of the conversation will be released next episode!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

04-11
34:05

Parenting, Faith, and Finding Balance with Matt Jacoby

Matthew Jacoby is a theologian, author, pastor, and musician best known as the lead singer of Sons of Korah and a lecturer in Christian Thought at Melbourne School of Theology. Matt opens up about the daily rhythms of family life, sharing his approach to helping his children with homework and studies. The conversation takes a fascinating turn as Matt recounts his father's adventurous spirit—walking the Mediterranean and sailing with friends, which led to German sponsorships and a writing career for German magazines that began when Matt's father was just sixteen. With refreshing honesty, Matt reflects on his own formative years at boarding school, describing the profound struggle he experienced trying to find his place and sense of belonging. This vulnerability creates a powerful backdrop for understanding his intentional approach to parenting today. Faith emerges as a central theme as Matt discusses how he incorporates Bible reading into his children's lives. He enthusiastically recommends resources from "The Bible Project" as his go-to tools for spiritual education and growth. In a particularly revealing moment, Matt acknowledges his past struggle with entertainment addiction and describes the transformative impact of undertaking a media fast—offering listeners insight into reclaiming attention and presence in our distraction-filled world. Perhaps most poignantly, Matt articulates the deep capacity for parental regret while recognising the ultimate truth of raising children: despite our best efforts at providing good nature and nurture, our children possess their own free will that we simply cannot control. This episode offers wisdom, comfort, and perspective for anyone navigating the complex journey of parenthood while trying to stay grounded in personal values and faith.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

04-04
45:35

Screens As Tools Not Troubles with Andrew Bibby

Former "Neighbours" star Andrew Bibby joins Justin and Heath for a refreshingly honest conversation about modern parenting in the digital age. Moving beyond the typical doom and gloom narrative, Andrew shares his innovative approach to helping his children understand and engage with social media. Dive into a candid discussion about: Transforming social media from a potential threat to a creative platform Why connection matters more than consumption Strategies for empowering kids to create, not just scroll Andrew's unique perspective from acting to emergency services From TV star to paramedic, Andrew Bibby brings an eye-opening view of raising children in a connected world. Learn how one dad is turning screen time into a positive, educational experience that prepares kids for the digital future. A must-listen for parents, educators, and anyone curious about healthy digital engagement!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

03-28
40:10

Father Figures x No Direction: A Father & Son Conversation

In this episode of Father Figures, host Justin sits down for a heartfelt and insightful conversation with one of his own sons. Together, they explore the challenges and joys of parenting in a world dominated by screens, social media, and constant connectivity. Justin shares real-life experiences, practical wisdom, and faith-based encouragement on how to navigate the digital age as a dad. From setting healthy boundaries to fostering open communication, this episode is packed with relatable moments and actionable advice for parents raising teens today. Whether you're a dad looking for guidance or simply want to hear an honest father-son chat, this episode is for you!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

03-21
39:14

Burning or Fueling: The Moments We Miss While Saying 'Just a Minute

Justin and Heath dive deep into the critical balance between work, screen-time & family life. This is PART 2 of the previous episode with Noddy Sharma. The guys get real about how our priorities often don't match our values, today they discuss:  Why putting your family before your career is so important The startling realisation that those precious moments with your children are flying by faster than you think Heath's candid confession about how many times he's told his kids "give me a minute" – and how that reflects upon his family. The crucial difference between activities that burn you out versus those that fuel your soul A thought-provoking conversation about how today's kids find their "truth" online – Heath shares his discovery about his children's relationship with YouTube and their belief that everything they see must be true. This episode is a wake-up call for any dad who's ever postponed quality time with his family. Justin and Heath offer practical wisdom on reclaiming your priorities and being present for the moments that truly matter.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

03-14
32:27

Navigating Teens in the Digital Age with Noddy Sharma PT1

Justin sits down with Noddy Sharma - a powerhouse voice in youth engagement and faith leadership - to unravel the complex world of modern parenting. What's Inside: The Digital Dilemma: Are smartphones friends or foes for our teens? Generational Shifts: Why today's youth dream differently The Ultimate Trust Test with Tech: When and how did Noddy let go of the no screen-time policy? Noddy brings razor-sharp insights into: The changing landscape of teenage aspirations Navigating screen time without losing connection Building faith and trust in a hyper-connected world Not Just Another Parenting Podcast - This is a raw, real conversation that will challenge everything you thought you knew about raising teenagers. Buckle up for wisdom and hope for parents navigating the digital wilderness! Tune in next week, with Heath and Justin! More info on Noddy Sharma: https://www.abelmovement.org/noddy-sharma  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

03-07
43:08

How We Do Christmas (Traditions Part 2)

In this holiday-themed episode, Justin and Heath continue to share their Christmas traditions. Heath reminisces about hilarious office gift exchanges, while Justin opens up about his exhausting but rewarding Carols by Candlelight performances. As a dad, Justin talks about pacing himself for the holidays and how he involves his kids in cooking, singing, and even toilet paper fights! You will also hear a highlight of a Christmas song he wrote! His parenting strategy? “Bring them along for the ride”—a method that’s helping his kids’ musical talents flourish. Heath’s tradition is capturing photos of his kids putting the star on the tree, though he’s only recently caved to Elf on the Shelf - which his kids absolutely adore. With a focus on family and rest, Justin and Heath look forward to spending quality time and sharing love this season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

12-13
33:47

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