Finding New Waters

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with John Lieberman, CEO of Visions Teen Treatment Centers in California, a premier program for adolescents struggling with substance use and mental health.John shares his remarkable journey of getting sober at just 17 years old in 1985, entering treatment twice as a teenager, and finding hope that recovery could actually be fun. Now celebrating nearly 40 years in recovery and four decades working in the field, John reflects on how his early experiences shaped his lifelong dedication to adolescent treatment.He discusses his path from floor tech to national outreach director, the founding of Visions, and why he believes in meeting teens with honesty, authenticity, and family support. John also sounds the alarm about today’s challenges—social media, misdiagnosed mental health, and the dangers of THC and psychedelics for vulnerable youth.This conversation is raw, inspiring, and full of wisdom from someone who has dedicated his life to helping young people and families find healing.📍 Learn more about Visions: https://visionsteen.co00:00 – Welcome & introduction to John Lieberman02:00 – Getting sober at 17 in Pasadena, CA06:00 – Finding hope that recovery could be fun10:00 – Lessons from early treatment experiences15:00 – From floor tech to 40 years in adolescent treatment20:00 – Why authenticity matters in youth recovery24:00 – Visions Teen: dual diagnosis & family-focused programming29:00 – Why all-gender treatment environments matter33:00 – The rise of anxiety, OCD, and autism spectrum diagnoses38:00 – Social media’s devastating impact on kids44:00 – THC, psychedelics, and the reality of psychosis in teens50:00 – Why parents must get involved in recovery54:00 – A message of hope for familiesJohn LiebermanCEO, Visions Teen Treatment CentersJohn Lieberman has been working in the field of addiction and adolescent mental health for nearly 40 years. After getting sober at 17, John began his career as a floor tech and went on to become a leader, educator, and advocate in adolescent treatment. Today, he serves as CEO of Visions Teen Treatment Centers in California, widely regarded as the gold standard in adolescent care. John is passionate about authentic connection, family involvement, and raising awareness about the unique challenges facing today’s youth.🌐 Visions Teen TreatmentVisions Teen Treatment: https://visionsteen.com“The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan HaidtCircle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#JohnLieberman #VisionsTeen #AdolescentRecovery #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWaters #TeenMentalHealth #SubstanceAbuseTreatment #SobrietyAt17 #RecoveryCommunity #YouthRecovery

In this heartfelt episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Tom Farley—speaker, author, recovery advocate, and brother of the late comedian Chris Farley.Tom opens up about his personal journey through addiction and recovery, the impact of his brother’s very public death, and how writing The Chris Farley Show helped him heal and see Chris in a new light. He reflects on growing up in Wisconsin, navigating sobriety after years of false starts, and finding purpose in working with teens, treatment centers, and now with Recovery.com.From stories of Wall Street and New York nightlife to insights on authenticity, grief, and fun in recovery, Tom’s story is equal parts cautionary and inspiring. He also shares the exciting news of an upcoming film adaptation of The Chris Farley Show—and why he hopes it will become a tool for the recovery community.📍 Learn more about Tom’s work: https://www.recovery.com📕 Book: The Chris Farley Show00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Tom Farley01:00 – Tom’s work with Recovery.com and Recovery Cast03:00 – How Chris Farley’s story first brought Tom into recovery work05:00 – Sobriety “attempts” vs. true recovery07:00 – The meeting that changed everything10:00 – Writing The Chris Farley Show and seeing Chris differently13:00 – The “mascot” persona and searching for authenticity16:00 – Growing up, prep school, and Georgetown years19:00 – Life in New York finance & Chris’s rise at SNL22:00 – News about The Chris Farley Show movie adaptation26:00 – Recovery.com’s mission & patient-first approach30:00 – Building healthy workplace culture rooted in gratitude34:00 – Belonging, connection, and living as one whole person38:00 – Lessons from recovery: action before results41:00 – Why fun in recovery is not only possible—but essential“I thought recovery meant no more fun—but I’ve had more fun sober than I ever did drinking. You’re not going to tell a Farley they can’t have fun.” – Tom FarleyTom FarleyTom Farley is a speaker, author, and recovery advocate. He wrote The Chris Farley Show, a New York Times bestselling oral history of his brother, the late comedian Chris Farley. Tom has spent years developing prevention and treatment programs for teens and young adults, and today works with Recovery.com, a patient-focused platform dedicated to connecting people with recovery resources and building community through podcasts, articles, and education.Recovery.comThe Chris Farley Show (Book)Recovery Cast PodcastGiving Voice to Depression PodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#TomFarley #ChrisFarley #RecoveryPodcast #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWatersPodcast #RecoveryCommunity #TheChrisFarleyShow #RecoveryDotCom #SobrietyJourney #FunInRecovery

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves and Justin McClendon sit down with Ryan Soave, Licensed Mental Health Counselor, certified trauma therapist, and research consultant for Huberman Lab at Stanford University Department of Neurobiology.Ryan opens up about his journey from entrepreneur and world traveler to finding his true calling in the treatment of trauma and addiction. He shares insights from years of clinical practice, research, and personal transformation—exploring why we confuse discomfort with danger, how trauma builds over time, and why resilience requires learning to sit with the difficult emotions instead of running from them.Drawing on practices like meditation, Yoga Nidra, Somatic Experiencing, EMDR, and breathwork, Ryan offers both science and story to help us understand how to uncover our true selves through recovery and healing.📍 Learn more about Ryan: Guardian Recovery – Ryan Soave📲 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryan.swa📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@rjswa⸻⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Ryan Soave02:00 – From entrepreneurship to trauma treatment04:00 – Research with Huberman Lab & VR experiments on fear07:00 – The barnacle boat: how trauma builds up over time10:00 – Early programming and its effects on relationships13:00 – Why we confuse discomfort with danger17:00 – Addictive behaviors and the search for relief21:00 – Meaning-making, worry, and fear of the future24:00 – Principles in action: practicing recovery in relationships27:00 – Sensitivity, stress, and self-regulation tools30:00 – Yoga Nidra and Non-Sleep Deep Rest explained34:00 – Breathwork, pausing, and the power of stillness41:00 – Practical tools for re-centering in stress44:00 – Final reflections & how to connect with Ryan⸻💬 Powerful Quote:“We often confuse discomfort with danger—and then react to it as if it’s life or death.” – Ryan Soave⸻👤 Guest Bio:Ryan SoaveLMHC | Certified Trauma Therapist | Program Developer | Research ConsultantRyan Soave brings deep experience as a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, certified trauma therapist, program developer, and research consultant for Huberman Lab at Stanford University Department of Neurobiology. After graduating from Wake Forest University and building a successful business career, Ryan faced personal and spiritual challenges that led him to pursue a Master’s in Mental Health Counseling.He has since worked with thousands of clients with complex PTSD, designed and facilitated large workshops, and spoken at national conferences as an expert in trauma and addiction treatment. Ryan has also been invited multiple times to lead meditations for members and staffers of the United States Congress. Trained in modalities such as yoga, Yoga Nidra, Somatic Experiencing, EMDR, and breathwork, Ryan approaches recovery with passion, commitment, and joy—believing that trauma treatment is an uncovering process that allows people to remember their true selves.🌐 Learn More – Guardian Recovery⸻📚 Resources Mentioned: • Yoga Nidra / NSDR guided practices • Breathwork and Somatic Experiencing • Guardian Recovery: https://www.guardianrecovery.com⸻📱 Follow Us: • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻▶️ Watch & Listen: • Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw • YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#RyanSoave #TraumaRecovery #AddictionRecovery #HubermanLab #FindingNewWaters #YogaNidra #NSDR #SomaticExperiencing #Breathwork #PTSDHealing

In this inspiring episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Chris Love, who got sober at just 19 years old and has spent the last 16 years building a life centered around service, connection, and joy. Chris shares his journey from early addiction to finding freedom in recovery, and how getting sober young opened unexpected doors to a fulfilling and purpose-driven life.He talks about overcoming the stigma of getting sober in your teens, the role of faith in his recovery, and why he believes that life in sobriety isn’t just about abstinence—it’s about living fully. Chris also shares his passion for helping others see the possibility of joy in early recovery, proving that sobriety doesn’t have to mean missing out—it can mean gaining everything.⸻⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Welcome & Introduction to Chris Love01:05 – Chris’s story: From partying teen to early recovery04:20 – Why he chose sobriety at 1907:10 – Facing the stigma of young recovery10:00 – Building a support network and finding mentors13:15 – Faith, hope, and spiritual growth in sobriety17:40 – Why recovery isn’t just “not drinking”21:05 – Discovering fun, joy, and adventure in sobriety26:50 – Service work and giving back to the community31:10 – Life lessons from 16 years sober35:00 – Chris’s advice for young people in recovery39:20 – Final reflections & closing thoughts⸻💬 Powerful Quote:“You can have so much fun at 19 getting sober—you just have to be open to the possibility of it.” – Chris Love⸻👤 Guest Bio:Chris LoveChris Love entered recovery at 19 years old and has remained sober for over 16 years. His life’s mission is to show others—especially young people—that sobriety is not a limitation but an opportunity. Through faith, service, and a commitment to growth, Chris has built a life he once thought was impossible.⸻📚 Resources Mentioned:https://www.hqpsych.com/chris-love • Circle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com⸻📱 Follow Us: • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻▶️ Watch & Listen: • Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw • YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#ChrisLove #YoungRecovery #SobrietyAt19 #AddictionRecovery #FaithInRecovery #FindingNewWaters #SobrietyJourney #LifeInSobriety #RecoveryIsPossible

In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Luke DeGrossi, CEO of Novara Recovery Center, to talk about how a single journal entry in a psychiatric hospital changed the course of his life. Luke shares his raw and honest journey through addiction, mental health, and long-term recovery—and how it all led him to build a treatment center designed to meet people where they are.Luke opens up about what it means to be of service, how to honor the “window of recovery,” and why personal experience can be one of the greatest assets in leading others out of the darkness. Whether you’re in recovery, supporting someone who is, or just seeking hope—you’ll find it here.Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction to Luke DeGrossi01:10 – Luke’s first experience with treatment and the psych ward journal03:45 – Why he kept going back to recovery, even after falling06:20 – “What if you had all the money in the world?” and the Novara vision09:00 – Learning to answer the call when the window of recovery opens11:15 – How Novara aims to meet people where they are14:00 – Service, humility, and the weight of the work17:50 – Family support and the impact of healing together20:10 – Mentorship, Villanova, and giving back23:00 – What makes a treatment center truly supportive26:30 – Final reflections and the future of Novara RecoveryGuest Bio:Luke DeGrossiCEO, Novara Recovery CenterLinkedIn ProfileLuke is the CEO of Novara Recovery Center, where he leads the company’s strategy and mission to make addiction treatment accessible and effective. With over a decade of personal sobriety and more than 10 years of leadership experience, Luke combines professional excellence with a deep, personal passion for recovery. He also serves as Chairman of the Board for Friends of Valence College Prep and sits on the Villanova School of Business Mentorship Advisory Board.Resources Mentioned:Novara Recovery Center: https://www.novararecoverycenter.comCircle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com📍 Learn more: ⁠https://www.novararecoverycenter.com⁠🔗 Connect with Luke on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukedegrossi/⁠Watch & ListenInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#LukeDeGrossi #NovaraRecovery #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWaters #RecoveryLeadership #MentalHealthAwareness #SubstanceUseDisorder #LongTermSobriety #PsychWardToCEO #TreatmentThatWorks

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Dr. Greg Hobelmann, co-CEO of Ashley Addiction Treatment and a person in long-term recovery. Greg opens up about his battle with addiction as a practicing anesthesiologist, his path to sobriety, and how he ultimately returned to Ashley as a leader after once leaving in relapse. His story is one of redemption, personal transformation, and the power of second chances. From a deeply personal account of relapse to his rise as a respected recovery professional, this episode dives into how building healthy habits and embracing a life of service can truly lead to freedom and fulfillment in recovery.Dr. Hobelmann also explores the science of habit formation, the spiritual foundation of sustained sobriety, and how recovery can be not just healing—but joyful.📍 Learn more about Ashley Addiction Treatment: https://www.ashleytreatment.org📧 Contact Dr. Greg Hobelmann: jghobelmann@ashleytreatment.orgTimestamps00:00 – Intro & Welcome00:56 – What Is Ashley Addiction Treatment?02:10 – Dr. Hobelmann’s Story: From Anesthesiologist to Recovery05:00 – His First Treatment Experience06:55 – Relapse and Redemption08:15 – The Return to Ashley10:35 – Redefining “Addict” & Battling Stigma13:05 – Father Martin’s Legacy & the Origins of Ashley17:20 – Monitoring Programs & Why Structure Helps21:00 – Building Joy and Freedom in Recovery23:10 – Daily Spiritual Maintenance26:00 – Habit Formation & Behavioral Change31:40 – Discipline, Structure & Emotional Sobriety35:45 – Recovery as a Lifelong Journey40:30 – Ashley’s Full Continuum of Care49:00 – Final Reflections on Growth & Gratitude50:35 – How to Reach Ashley Addiction TreatmentKey Quote“If I don’t get high in sobriety, I’m not going to be able to stay sober. I’ve got to enjoy this.” — Dr. Greg Hobelmann

In this bold and passionate episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Brandy Klingman—a licensed psychotherapist, founder, and CEO of St. Christopher’s and Magnolia Bell treatment centers in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. With over two decades of experience in behavioral health, Brandy brings a rare blend of clinical insight and fearless advocacy to the conversation.She opens up about the fight to regulate dangerous substances like Kratom and Delta-8, the importance of long-term care, and what it’s like to bring her voice directly into policy conversations in Washington D.C. Whether you’re in recovery, a family member, or working in the treatment space, Brandy’s message is one of clarity, courage, and commitment to truth.⸻⏱️ Timestamps • 00:00 – Welcome & introduction to Brandy Klingman • 01:00 – About St. Christopher’s: 8-month treatment rooted in connection • 04:00 – Infusing clinical care into 12-step models • 05:30 – Why she works in national advocacy and what drives it • 08:00 – The need for people in recovery at policy tables • 12:00 – On stigma, honesty, and modeling change • 15:00 – Her personal and professional path into addiction work • 20:00 – Diagnoses like antisocial disorder: What needs to shift • 23:00 – How young people are reshaping mental health conversations • 24:30 – The risks of Kratom and Delta-8: What’s not being talked about • 30:00 – Foreign synthetics and how they’re getting into kids’ hands • 36:00 – Prevention, regulation, and protecting future generations • 42:00 – Her new women’s program: Magnolia Bell • 44:00 – Final thoughts: action, community, and staying in the fight⸻💬 Powerful Quote“If there’s going to be a decision made about mental health or substance use treatment, we need a voice in the room.” – Brandy Klingman⸻👤 Guest BioBrandy KlingmanPsychotherapist | CEO of St. Christopher’s & Magnolia Bellwww.brandypklingman.comBrandy Klingman is a licensed psychotherapist, founder, and CEO of both St. Christopher’s Addiction Wellness (a long-term men’s treatment center) and Magnolia Bell (a new program for women) based in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. She has over 20 years of experience in behavioral health and is a fierce advocate for regulatory reform, access to long-term care, and ethical leadership in addiction treatment. Brandy is active in both state and federal mental health policy conversations and is on a mission to change the way our country approaches recovery—starting with truth.⸻📚 Resources Mentioned • Brandy Klingman Official Website: https://www.brandypklingman.com • St. Christopher’s Addiction Wellness: https://www.addictionwellness.com • Magnolia Bell Women’s Program: (website not listed yet—can be added later) • Circle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com⸻📱 Follow Us • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecovery • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecovery • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recovery • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc⸻▶️ Watch & Listen • Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.com • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5Gjw • Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608 • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXw • YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#BrandyKlingman #AddictionRecovery #MentalHealthAdvocacy #LongTermTreatment #MagnoliaBell #StChristophersRecovery #PolicyReform #FindingNewWatersPodcast

In this practical and energizing episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Kate Wade and Krissy Metzler, co-founders of The GOALDEN System, to talk about what executive function really means—and why most of us were never taught how to manage time, goals, and emotions in a sustainable way.Kate and Krissy break down the myths around productivity (“Just use a calendar!”), explain the brain science behind behavior change, and share their system for coaching individuals from overwhelmed to organized. Whether you’re neurodivergent, in recovery, juggling family and work, or just constantly feeling behind—this conversation offers validation, insight, and real strategies you can apply today.⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Intro and what executive function actually is01:30 – Who The GOALDEN System helps (hint: it’s everyone)04:00 – Behavior change vs. quick fixes06:00 – The GOALDEN acronym and how their system works10:00 – Neurodivergent brains and what they need14:00 – Recovery, ADHD, and still feeling stuck18:00 – Resistance to change and the path of least resistance21:00 – Chaos is familiar, but doesn’t have to be permanent24:00 – How long coaching takes and what it feels like28:00 – Redefining success and building tools that last36:00 – A favorite tip: externalizing your thoughts39:00 – Cognitive flexibility and the truth about pivoting40:00 – Final thoughts: celebrate your small wins🧠 Key Topics Covered:Executive function explained in real languageHow behavior change really happens (hint: it’s not overnight)Why neurodivergence is a strength when you know how to work with itThe GOALDEN system and how it adapts to youHow coaching supports recovery and emotional regulationReplacing shame with self-awareness and strategy💬 Powerful Quote:“You deserve a good day. And we’re here to help you build one—your way.” – Kate Wade👥 Guest Bios:Kate Wade is an executive function coach with a background in marine science education and educational psychology. She brings brain-based strategies, humor, and deep compassion to every coaching relationship.Krissy Metzler is a former English and special education teacher who specializes in behavior change and neurodivergent coaching. She’s also the brains behind The GOALDEN System’s newsletters and workshops.Together, they co-founded The GOALDEN System—a coaching model that helps people manage time, reduce overwhelm, and feel better equipped to live the life they want.📚 Resources:Website: https://www.thegoaldensystem.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thegoaldensystemLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/thegoaldensystem📱 Follow Us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc▶️ Watch & Listen:Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#ExecutiveFunction #TheGOALDENSystem #NeurodivergentSupport #FindingNewWatersPodcast #BehaviorChange #TimeManagementTools #MentalWellnessCoaching #RecoveryAndPlanning #ADHDSupport #KateWade #KrissyMetzler

In this moving and unfiltered episode of Finding New Waters, we’re joined by Mayor Jacques Gilbert and Hollan Steen, Director of Admissions at Asheville Recovery Center, to share the remarkable story of Apex, North Carolina’s Substance Misuse Task Force.The episode explores how a mayor and a formerly incarcerated man formed an unlikely alliance to battle addiction stigma, increase recovery resources, and create a more welcoming and inclusive community. They discuss the founding of the task force, the courage it took to start conversations about addiction in a conservative environment, and how their partnership has inspired other municipalities to take notice.It’s a powerful testimony to the healing potential of connection, humility, and action at the local level.⏱️ Timestamps:00:00 – Opening & introductions01:00 – How Hollan & Jacques first connected05:00 – Breaking through shame and stigma in small towns07:00 – The courage to walk into the mayor’s office10:00 – Creating a task force with purpose and balance13:00 – Building Peak of Hope: The outreach mission17:00 – Lived experience and its role in public trust21:00 – The power of family support in launching the task force24:00 – From a hidden booth to community hugs: Peak Fest’s evolution27:00 – The stigma in Wake County vs. Asheville30:00 – Naloxone in Wake County Schools: A real victory34:00 – Hope, collaboration, and how to get involved🔑 Key Points:A mayor and a man with a felony conviction team up to build trustRecovery stigma in Wake County and the courage to talk about itThe power of representation: why visibility matters in recoverySupporting families with lived experience, not just dataWhy this local model is gaining statewide attention💬 Powerful Quote:“A government official sitting on a couch with a convicted felon, saying together we want to change the world—that would’ve never happened in Apex. Until now.” – Hollan Steen🧠 Guest Bios:Jacques GilbertMayor of Apex, NC | Former Police Captain | Community AdvocateMayor Gilbert served 29 years in law enforcement before being elected mayor. He’s known for his commitment to connection, inclusion, and showing up for those who feel unseen.Hollan SteenDirector of Admissions, Asheville Recovery CenterHollan’s journey from incarceration to recovery leader is a testament to the power of second chances. He now leads admissions at ARC and speaks nationally about stigma, advocacy, and lived experience.🌐 Resources Mentioned:Town of Apex: https://www.apexnc.org (Search: Substance Misuse Task Force)Asheville Recovery Center: https://www.ashevillerecoverycenter.comNaloxone Programs in NC SchoolsCircle of Security Parenting: https://circleofsecurityinternational.com📱 Follow Us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_nc▶️ Watch & Listen:Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this powerful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Jeff Hatch — a former NFL player turned recovery advocate — for an unflinchingly honest and deeply redemptive conversation. Jeff shares his remarkable journey from playing for the New York Giants to battling addiction, relapsing, and ultimately rebuilding a meaningful life in long-term recovery. With raw insight and humility, Jeff opens up about the weight of secrets, the darkness of relapse, and the spiritual clarity he found through surrender.Jeff’s path has taken him from the NFL to a federal investigation — and now, to a leadership role in recovery at Eagle Creek Ranch. Whether you’re in recovery or just need to hear a story of hope, redemption, and true transformation, this episode is for you.👇 TIMESTAMPS:00:00 – Intro & Reconnecting in Seattle01:00 – Jeff’s football journey: from UPenn to the NFL06:30 – Injury, addiction, and painkillers in pro sports11:00 – The illusion of achievement as a cure18:00 – Getting honest: From overdose to treatment22:00 – Early recovery and starting over28:00 – Relapse, fentanyl patches, and heroin36:00 – Getting involved with federal law enforcement43:00 – Facing public exposure and redemption49:00 – Finding love and rebuilding a new life55:00 – Living spiritually through chaos01:00:00 – Jeff’s life today: marriage, career, and fatherhood01:08:00 – Gratitude, authenticity, and using your pain for purpose01:12:00 – Outro & how to connect with Jeff🔗 Find Jeff Hatch:Website: https://www.hatchcoaching.com🏥 Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery: https://www.eaglecreekranchrecovery.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn

In this heartfelt and deeply insightful episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Steve Lee, Senior Director of Strategic Relationships at Cumberland Heights. Steve reflects on his 35-year journey in recovery, his unexpected transition into the treatment field at age 58, and the guiding values that shape both his life and career. From stories of personal transformation to reflections on ethics in behavioral health, this episode is a masterclass in humility, wisdom, and the power of principled living. Whether you’re in recovery, working in the treatment space, or simply seeking a deeper understanding of authentic leadership, Steve’s words will resonate.[00:00] Introduction – Meet Steve Lee from Cumberland Heights[01:00] The Cheeseburger Story – A life lesson in acceptance[03:00] Starting a New Career at 58 – From family business to treatment field[07:00] Questions That Clarify Purpose – What do you love, value, and excel at?[12:00] Two Hats in Recovery Work – The separation of job and personal sobriety[19:00] A Job Meant to Be – How trusting the process led to the right opportunity[24:00] The Power of 12-Step Language – When the message hits the heart[29:00] What Keeps Steve Coming Back – Spiritual growth and humility[33:00] Ethics in the Treatment Field – Staying true in high-pressure environments[42:00] True North in Action – Doing the right thing even when it’s hard[46:00] Friendship, Change, and Growth – Recovery reshaping connection[50:00] Cumberland Heights & Arches – Trusted treatment for all ages[55:00] Final Reflections – Gratitude, growth, and staying in the solutionSteve LeeSenior Director of Strategic Relationships, Cumberland HeightsSteve Lee brings over 12 years of experience in behavioral health and over 35 years of personal recovery. A former family business leader, Steve made a transformative mid-life career change to work in the addiction treatment field. He is widely respected for his ethical leadership, heartfelt communication, and dedication to recovery-centered care. At Cumberland Heights, Steve focuses on connecting professionals and families with treatment solutions that honor the integrity of the recovery process.Reinvention at Any Age – It’s never too late to start living your passion.Principled Recovery Work – True ethics come from personal accountability, not company policy.Why We Keep Coming Back – Recovery isn’t just about stopping a behavior—it’s about spiritual growth.Two Hats, One Mission – Personal recovery and professional roles must remain distinct.Cumberland Heights Legacy – A beacon for 12-step rooted, clinically excellent care.“Do my principles hold up when the mortgage is due, when my boss is on me about admissions? A principle is not malleable—it’s either firm or it’s not.” – Steve LeeCumberland Heights Treatment Center: https://www.cumberlandheights.orgArch Academy (Adolescent Treatment): https://www.archacademy.orgStill Waters (12-Step Immersion for Men): https://www.stillwatersrecovery.orgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#SteveLee #CumberlandHeights #FindingNewWatersPodcast #12StepRecovery #EthicsInRecovery #AddictionTreatment #SpiritualRecovery #RecoveryLeadership #ArchAcademy #StillWatersRecovery

In this profound and soul-stirring conversation, yoga teacher, doula, writer, and advocate Andrea Boyd dives into a wide-ranging discussion about self-anarchy, healing through breath and movement, the ancient wisdom of yoga and meditation, and the importance of reconnecting with our intuition. Drawing from her decades of teaching and personal experience, Andrea shares insight into self-governance, plant-based living, spiritual sovereignty, and the power of stillness in a noisy world. Whether you’re curious about yoga or on your own journey of recovery and transformation, this episode offers grounding truths and a deep sense of possibility.[00:00] Welcome & Intro[01:30] What is Self-Anarchy?[05:00] Reclaiming Inner Wisdom & the Power of No[08:00] Why “New Waters” is a Sacred Metaphor[11:00] The Purpose of Shavasana & Constant Rebirth[15:00] Connecting Breath, Spirit, and the Body[18:00] Andrea’s Journey into Yoga[24:00] Meditation as Self-Validation & Stillness[32:00] Food, Energy, and Going Plant-Based[40:00] Why What We Say to Ourselves Matters[45:00] Self-Governance and Tuning Your Own Instrument[49:00] Letting Go of Conditioning and Choosing a New PathSelf-Anarchy: Trusting your internal compass and governing yourself from within.Yoga as Rebirth: Every class, every breath offers the potential for renewal.Healing Through Breath: The diaphragm, lungs, and body are tools for self-liberation.Plant-Based Living: Her shift toward veganism as a transformative spiritual decision.Meditation as Witnessing: Not silencing the mind, but observing it with compassion.Sacred Practice of Stillness: Why 3 minutes of stillness can change your day.“Self-anarchy is being able to govern your own body and mind with your innate wisdom—on a cellular level, from eons ago.” – Andrea BoydAndrea Boyd is a globally respected yoga teacher, birth doula, author, speaker, and advocate for human and animal rights. Based in Charleston, SC, Andrea has been teaching yoga for over 22 years, leading transformative classes and workshops grounded in ancient philosophy and lived experience. She is the author of The Depth of Birth, hosts retreats and birth education programs, and continues to explore the intersection of personal sovereignty, conscious parenting, and embodied healing. Visit her website to learn more: www.andreaboydyoga.comInstagram: @andreaboydyogaAndrea’s Website: https://www.andreaboydyoga.comBook: The Depth of Birth by Andrea BoydDocumentary: Earthlings (narrated by Joaquin Phoenix)Circle of Security ParentingYoga Sutras of PatanjaliThe Power of Now by Eckhart TolleEmoto Water ExperimentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#AndreaBoyd #FindingNewWatersPodcast #SelfAnarchy #YogaForHealing #MeditationJourney #SpiritualSovereignty #VeganLiving #EmotionalAwareness #StillnessPractice #YogaPhilosophy

In this episode of Finding New Waters, B. Reeves sits down with Andrew Maloof, co-founder and CEO of Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery in Boise, Idaho. Andrew reflects on his 12 years of sobriety, his journey from working in Las Vegas nightclubs to owning a treatment center, and how a moment of spiritual surrender changed everything. Together, they dive into what makes treatment effective, why hospitality and connection matter in recovery, and the power of simply showing up.Whether you’re sober-curious, in long-term recovery, or supporting a loved one, Andrew’s humility, humor, and real-life experience offer deep insight and encouragement.Timestamps:[00:00] Welcome & Introduction[01:00] Sobriety Milestones & The Masters Moment[04:00] Following Directions: A Recipe for Recovery[08:00] Fellowship, Inventory, and Staying Connected[12:00] Embarrassment vs. Empowerment in Getting Sober[17:00] From UNLV to Las Vegas Nightclubs to Recovery[20:00] Founding Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery[24:00] Hospitality in Treatment: Why It Matters[29:00] That First Honest Prayer[32:00] Living the Easier, Softer Way[36:00] Just Show Up: Final ReflectionsKey Topics:The importance of connection in early and ongoing recoveryHow hospitality plays a key role in healing environmentsThe founding of Eagle Creek Ranch and their philosophy of careWhat makes a treatment experience truly transformationalWhy showing up beats pretending every timeGuest Bio:Andrew Maloof is the co-founder and CEO of Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery, a residential treatment center for men based in Idaho. With a background in hospitality management from UNLV and a personal recovery journey spanning more than a decade, Andrew combines professional excellence with lived experience. He’s passionate about creating healing spaces grounded in compassion, accountability, and the 12 Steps.Resources & Links:Eagle Creek Ranch Recovery Website: https://www.eaglecreekranchrecovery.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/eaglecreekranchrecoveryFollow Us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncWatch & Listen:Podcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mnSEO Hashtags:#AndrewMaloof #EagleCreekRecovery #RecoveryPodcast #12StepRecovery #AddictionRecovery #FindingNewWatersPodcast #SoberLife #HolisticHealingPowerful Quote:“Just show up. Be on time. Be present. You can’t pretend to care, but you can’t pretend to show up.”

In this empowering episode of Finding New Waters, we sit down with Meredith Brierly—also known online as Clean Coaching Mama—to explore the transformative power of sober living, holistic wellness, and motherhood. Meredith shares her raw and relatable journey through anxiety, addiction, and recovery in New York, to becoming a health coach and leading voice in clean, mindful parenting. With 13 years of sobriety, she now helps others live low-tox, purpose-driven lives grounded in recovery principles. Whether you’re a parent, in recovery, or simply seeking healthier habits, Meredith’s story offers inspiration and practical takeaways for living well without obsession or perfection.00:00 – Welcome & Introductions01:00 – Meredith’s Sobriety Journey and Family Life04:00 – Corporate Life and Addiction in NYC07:00 – Returning to NC and Her Path to Recovery12:00 – Treatment, Fellowship Hall, and Early Sobriety16:00 – January 1st: The Last Drink21:00 – Rebuilding Identity in Sobriety26:00 – Sober Weddings, Motherhood, and Boundaries28:00 – From Recovery to Holistic Coaching32:00 – Pantry Swaps, Mindfulness, and Low-Tox Living34:00 – Final Words & How to ConnectWhy recovery doesn’t stop at sobriety—Meredith’s philosophy on integrated healingHow motherhood, anxiety, and faith intersected in her recovery journeyThe dangers of hidden added sugar and low-quality foodsMindful tools like EFT (tapping) and breathwork for busy parentsHow she brings recovery principles into holistic health and family coachingMeredith BrierlyCertified Health Coach, Speech Therapist, and Founder of Clean Coaching MamaMeredith Brierly is a Certified Health Coach, speech therapist, and mother of two with 13 years of sobriety. Based in Raleigh, North Carolina, Meredith empowers women and families to live cleaner, more intentional lives through practical coaching, wellness workshops, and free resources. Her work blends recovery wisdom with nutrition, emotional regulation, and low-tox living.Website: https://www.cleancoachingmama.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/cleancoachingmamaInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#MeredithBrierly #CleanLiving #RecoveryJourney #HolisticParenting #SoberMomLife #FindingNewWatersPodcast #MindfulMotherhood #LowToxLiving“Sobriety is the anchor for everything in our lives. It’s not about being perfect—it’s about being intentional.” – Meredith Brierly

In this deeply personal episode of Finding New Waters, we sit down with Dylan Starrs, Program Director at Mountain House Recovery in Flagstaff, Arizona. Dylan walks us through his rollercoaster journey—from chasing rock stardom and working at Bel-Air Country Club to disappearing into addiction, crashing in motels, and ultimately finding recovery that stuck.He shares how he stopped “auditing” recovery and finally put real sweat equity into his sobriety—through mentorship, structure, and showing up every day for his community. Dylan also reflects on music, golf, grief, purpose, and what it really means to stay connected to your own recovery while leading others through theirs.[00:00] Welcome & Dylan’s Backstory – From musician to mentor[04:00] Relapse, Recovery & Reinvention – Losing everything, then finding hope at St. Christopher’s Inn[10:00] Discovering Community at Jaywalker Lodge – Starting a podcast, giving back, and finally surrendering[15:00] What is Mountain House? – A structured aftercare program for young men in Arizona[20:00] Sobriety Isn’t a Gift—It’s Earned – Dylan on emotional graduate school and putting in the work[25:00] From Rockstar Dreams to Real Purpose – Music, mentoring, and helping men heal[30:00] Recovery as a Lifestyle – Having fun sober, staying right-sized, and showing up for life[36:00] Final Thoughts – Family recovery, teaching through experience, and building legacyThe Myth of the Quick Fix – Recovery doesn’t come from receiving—it comes from buildingEmotional Grad School – Why true sobriety takes time, work, and reflectionRelapse & Redemption – How Dylan found grace, humility, and mentorship in unexpected placesStructure, Joy & Community – Building a life you don’t want to escape fromStaying in Recovery While Working in Recovery – Boundaries, self-care, and staying teachableDylan StarrsProgram Director, Mountain House RecoveryDylan Starrs is a musician, recovery coach, and the Program Director at Mountain House Recovery, an aftercare facility for young men in Flagstaff, Arizona. After years of chasing fame, relapsing, and restarting his life, Dylan found long-term sobriety through structure, service, and connection. Today, he helps young men navigate life after treatment while still pursuing joy through music, golf, and community.🌐 Website: https://www.mountainhouserecovery.com📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mtnhouserecoveryMountain House Recovery: https://www.mountainhouserecovery.comJaywalker Lodge: https://www.jaywalkerlodge.com12-Step Meeting Finder: https://www.aa.orgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/newwatersrecoveryFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/newwatersrecoveryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/new-waters-recoveryTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@newwatersrecovery_ncPodcast Website: https://www.findingnewwaters.comSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4NOV2g85KExFWU5mTz5GjwApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/finding-new-waters/id1684075608YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjfAIXtiOgy1XFcwAduXgXwYouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJOc6yLcjibGGAKgLYPCN47etJCY89mn#DylanStarrs #MountainHouseRecovery #YoungMenRecovery #LongTermSobriety #FindingNewWatersPodcast #RecoveryJourney #MusicAndRecovery #LifeAfterRelapse #JaywalkerLodge