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The Freedom Matters podcast explores the intersection of technology, productivity, creativity and society.

Our collaborators are the leading productivity, digital wellness, and creative voices of our time. They share their powerful stories and guidance on how to nurture productivity and reclaim control over technology.

This is not another ‘productivity’ podcast which puts more pressure on listeners to obtain unrealistic life goals. Our stories are real, and the advice is pragmatic, authentic, and designed to support a healthier, happier and more productive life.
75 Episodes
Chris Bailey is an author and lecturer who explores the science behind living a deeper, more intentional life. He is the international bestselling author of How to Calm Your Mind, Hyperfocus, and The Productivity Project—which have been published in 35 languages around the world. He is also the author of the Audible Original, How to Train Your Mind. Alongside his wife, Chris is the host of the podcast Time and Attention, and writes a weekly column at, which is read by tens of thousands of people every week. In addition to his writing, Chris speaks to organizations around the globe on how they can become more productive, without hating the process. His latest TED Talk, How to Get Your Brain to Focus, has been viewed over 13 million times. However, it took an on-stage panic attack for productivity expert Chris to recognize how critical it is to invest in calm at the same time that we invest in becoming more productive. Productivity advice works—and we need it now more than ever—but it’s just as vital that we develop our capacity for calm. By finding calm and overcoming anxiety, we don’t just feel more comfortable in our own mind—we build a deeper, more expansive reservoir of energy to draw from throughout the day. Today we dive into his most recently book, How to Calm Your Mind, to understand the difference between anxiety and calm, why calm is so powerful and importantly, how crucially, how to find it. You can find out more about Chris here: Purchase the book, How to Calm your Mind here: Or purchase the burnout assessment here:  A Two-Minute Burnout Checkup Host and Producer: ⁠⁠⁠Georgie Powell⁠⁠⁠  Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | ⁠⁠⁠Toccare⁠⁠⁠ 
In this episode we speak with Henry Ajder, a globally recognised advisor, speaker, and broadcaster working at the frontier of the generative AI and synthetic media revolution. Henry’s work has transformed society’s understanding of deepfakes and generative AI. He has led pioneering research at organisations including MIT, WITNESS, and Sensity AI, influencing international legislation and corporate AI strategy. A "deep fake cartographer", henry's work has mapped the emergence and evolution of generative technologies and the impact that they have on our lives. In this episode we discuss: the current fear around how these technologies are evolving, many of the use cases of Generative AI, and the consequences of those use cases, some of the technological solutions for managing generative AI platforms, what users can do to ensure that they use the tools in a productive and reliable way. More about Henry: Henry presented the BBC documentary series, The Future will be Synthesised, and regularly features in global media including The New York Times, MIT Tech Review, CNN, Reuters, and The Financial Times. He has been published by outlets including WIRED, The Next Web, NYU, and The World AI Summit. Previously, Henry led Synthetic Futures, the first initiative dedicated to ethical generative AI and metaverse technologies, bringing together over 50 industry-leading organisations. An established keynote speaker and guest expert, Henry has spoken at venues including SXSW, CogX, The University of Oxford, and Adweek and advises organisations on the opportunities and challenges these game-changing technologies present, including Meta, The European Commission, BBC, The Partnership on AI, and The House of Lords. Henry Ajder BBC Radio 4 - The Future Will Be Synthesised Host and Producer: ⁠⁠⁠Georgie Powell⁠⁠⁠  Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | ⁠⁠⁠Toccare⁠⁠⁠ 
Over the past decade, companies have invested more and more in employee wellbeing. And yet, in recent years, employees perceptions that their companies care about their wellbeing has fallen rapidly. Why is the increase in spend not translating to improved employee wellbeing, and what can be done about it? This week, I'm in conversation with the Tyler Rice, who is the Co-Founder and Chief Operating Officer of the Digital Wellness Institute. As a leading digital wellness innovator, Tyler’s work focuses on designing new tools, training, and data measurements to drive awareness of the importance of digital wellbeing for enterprise clients. Today, we'll be discussing workplace wellbeing, and how to create a culture where digital wellbeing can flourish. We explore: investment in wellbeing and why that hasn't paid off, how to put in place changes to encourage workplace wellbeing, and we touch on the implications of generative AI for the way we work. If you want to learn more about the digital wellbeing institute, then support us and them on Digital Wellness Day, on the 5th of May, by joining our free virtual co-working session, powered by Caveday. You can register here: Find out more: Digitally Well Workplaces: Digitally Well Workplace Certification: Host and Producer: ⁠⁠Georgie Powell⁠⁠  Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | ⁠⁠Toccare⁠⁠ 
It is impossible to ignore the rapid rise and adoption of Generative AI programs, like chat GPT and Midjourney. At Freedom, we are fascinated with the conversation about whether these tools will support or undermine digital wellbeing and productivity, and the impact that they will have for the future of work. The likelihood is that it will depend a lot on how thoughtfully we use them. In this episode we welcome consumer psychologist, Dr Paul Marsden, to discuss this very issue. As a positive psychologist, he believes that technology should be designed to support the ARC of happiness, and that there is huge potential for the positive application of generative AI. We are no longer in a situation where AI will simply replace menial, repetitive tasks; it is being proven to be incredibly creative. We discuss: Autonomy, Relatedness and Competency in technology The rise of generative AI, it's creative applications and how it is beating humans How generative AI provides insight into the human psyche The place for generative AI and how we can use it for good. Dr Paul Marsden (CPsychol) is a consultant psychologist specialising on the psychological effects of technology on we think, feel and behave. Paul works with businesses to help them understand how tech transforms people’s expectations, relationships and experiences. Paul appeared as himself in the 2022 award-winning movie ‘I am Gen Z’ - a documentary film on teens, tech and wellbeing, and has recently completed a study for WPP digital agency, SYZYGY, on how people feel and respond to new AI technology like ChatGPT. Learn more about Paul and his work: Imagine: Public Perceptions of Generative AI in Germany (Survey on the Public Perceptions of Generative AI in Germany - SYZYGY GROUP)I am Gen Z: I Am Gen Z (I Am Gen Z)Website: Host and Producer: ⁠Georgie Powell⁠  Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | ⁠Toccare⁠ 
Silence isn’t just the absence of noise. It’s a presence that brings us energy, clarity, and deeper connection. In this episode, we meet with Justin Zorn & Leigh Marz, to discuss just this. Their book, Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise, explores the meaning of silence and the art of finding it in any situation. The book reveals how to go beyond the ordinary rules and tools of mindfulness. It’s a field guide for navigating the noise of the modern world—not just the noise in our ears, but also on our screens and in our heads. Drawing on lessons from neuroscience, business, spirituality, politics, and the arts, Marz and Zorn explore why auditory, informational, and internal silence is essential for physical health, mental clarity, ecological sustainability, and vibrant community. In this episode we discuss: what silence means to an individual why it is so important how to find silence in your life and work. Justin Talbot Zorn has served as both a policymaker and a meditation teacher in the U.S. Congress. A Harvard- and Oxford-trained specialist in the economics and psychology of well-being, Justin has written for the Washington Post, The Atlantic, Harvard Business Review, Foreign Policy, Wired, CNN, and other publications. He is cofounder of Astrea Strategies, a consultancy that bridges contemplation and action, helping leaders and teams envision and communicate solutions to complex challenges. He lives in Santa Fe, New Mexico, with his wife and three children. Leigh Marz is a collaboration consultant and leadership coach for major universities, corporations, and federal agencies as well as a longtime student of pioneering researchers and practitioners of the ritualized use of psychedelic medicines in the West. In her professional work, she has led diverse initiatives, including a training program to promote an experimental mindset among teams at NASA and a decade-long cross-sector collaboration to reduce toxic chemicals in products in partnership with the Green Science Policy Institute, Harvard, IKEA, Google, and Kaiser Permanente. She is the co-founder of Astrea Strategies. Leigh lives in Berkeley, California, with her husband and daughter. You can find Golden: The Power of Silence in a World of Noise at Amazon,  or anywhere you buy books. For audiophiles, we highly recommend the Audible audio book —read by Prentice Onayemi. For recent media and articles written by Justin and Leigh, go to Golden Media. If you’d like to learn more about Justin and Leigh’s consulting work with Astrea Strategies—helping individuals and organizations address challenges and communicate solutions from a deeper place of attention and centeredness—you can find them at If you’d like to learn more about Jarvis Jay Masters, a primary teacher in the book, and his appeal for his freedom—please visit Host and Producer: Georgie Powell  Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | Toccare 
In this episode we speak with Gloria Mark. Gloria is Chancellor's professor of Informatics at the University of California, Irvine. She received her PhD from Columbia University in Psychology and studies the impact of digital media on people's lives. Her new book, Attention Span is the culmination of years of research, understanding attention, distraction, and how to live with digital devices. In this episode, we discussed the important arguments of her book: that there are different states of attention controversially, that a flow state is not always optimal nor achievable that different people are more or less susceptible to distractions, and, that it's not just our devices that are degrading our attention spans. Finally, we discuss a number of ways in which we can reclaim control over our valuable attention. Find out more about Gloria and order her book here: Follow her on social media: @gloriamark_phd Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | Toccare
Amit Gupta is an optimist, a science fiction writer, and co-founder of Sudowrite, the AI-powered creative writing app. He is also an uncle and a son, and a friend to all dogs. He previously founded and sold Photojojo. In this episode we discuss: - Some of the challenges of creative writing - How writing has lagged other creative pursuits in terms of the availability of technology to support creativity (there is no photoshop for writing) - How AI can be a support for creative writing - Some of the considerations to prevent the misuse of tools like Sudowrite - Why flagging too many of the issues with future technologies may hold us back Sudowrite Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | Toccare
Dan Clark is CEO of Brain.FM, which creates music for the brain, to help you unlock your best self, by focusing, relaxing and sleeping better. Phil Amalong is the VP Marketing of Freedom, and audio producer and music composer for Freedom Matters. They both love music, and have lived and breathed how music can change the way we function and work. In this two part episode, we speak firstly with Phil. We talk about how he builds the soundtracks for our podcast, about his career history as a musician and entrepreneur, and why focus sounds have become an important part of the Freedom product. Focus sounds exist in Freedom, in part due to's CEO, Dan, explains the science behind how focus sounds work to align the vibrations in our brain so that we can think more clearly and stay focused for longer. Dan has spent years hacking his life to improve his focus, and believes there is still so much to learn when it comes to sound. Websites: Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Phil Amalong | Toccare Music in this episode:  - Predictions by - Freedom Matters Theme - composed/produced by Philip Amalong - Beethoven Piano Sonata Op. 109, Mvt 3 excerpt - performed by Philip Amalong - Arc - composed/produced by Philip Amalong - Apex by - Moon Cycles by - Pando by - Predictions by
John Mack is an American artist, photographer, author and founder of Life Calling. A frequent speaker at conferences and universities on the subjects of technology, awareness and consciousness, Mack’s examination of these topics recently culminated in A Species Between Worlds: Our Nature, Our Screens, an interactive visual art experience and month-long Forum exploring humanity’s current migration from the natural world to the virtual world. It was live in New York through September 2022. In this episode we discuss "A Species Between Worlds" and the moral lessons that it shares. We cover the role of technology tools in our lives, and how it distorts our relationship with nature. We also discuss how our psyche is also a tool, which shapes our lived experience. Mack argues that the only way to reshape our relationship with technology is to first reshape the relationship that we have with ourselves, so that we can live fully, uninhabited by the preconceptions of our mind. Mack was born in 1976 in New York City. Under Life Calling, Mack recently published Notes to Selfie: Bits of Truth in a Phoney World, a volume of thoughts and aphorisms, and a collection of poetry, A Land Between Worlds: The Shifting Poetry of the Great American Landscape. He was an honoree of The Explorer’s Club 50: Fifty people changing the world who the world needs to know about. Mack has also served as an adjunct lecturer for the Graduate program at IADE in Lisbon, Portugal. For years John has expressed concern over the effects on humanity in the wake of the rapid proliferation of smart-devices. A vanguard in advocating research, activism, and awareness around their unmitigated use, John founded Life Calling, a nonprofit organization whose mission is to help us all live fulfilled lives in the Digital Age while retaining our humanity and personal autonomy. It aims to empower humanity through a dynamic series of activations, campaigns, exhibitions and public programming, to help generate a more balanced, nuanced and thoughtful perspective for us all in the Digital Age. For more from John: For more on A Species between Worlds: Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
Tanya Goodin is an author, broadcaster, pioneering thinker and campaigner on digital wellbeing and tech ethics - founder of the digital detox movement Time to Log Off and host of the ‘It’s Complicated’ podcast. Her game-changing books on our relationship with technology, ‘My Brain Has Too Many Tabs Open’, ‘Off’ and ‘Stop Staring at Screens’, are published in ten languages worldwide. In this episode we discuss many of the lessons that she has learnt about the costs of using technology. We discuss: - The elephant on the zoom - Technoference - Tech-life balance - And one very important question - is technology always the answer? She hasn’t always been a ‘digital canary’. As an award-winning digital entrepreneur and instinctive trend spotter, Tanya spent two decades running one of Britain’s first digital businesses. Her mission now is to make today’s tech issues accessible to users and consumers, so they can consciously manage their digital lives. Tanya is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, a graduate of the University of Oxford, and currently researching for a Masters in Artificial Intelligence (AI) ethics at the University of Cambridge. Websites: and Twitter handle @tanyagoodin Book link My Brain Has Too Many Tabs Open: How to Untangle Our Relationship with Tech Podcast: Digital Detox Resources, Research and Retreats | Time To Log Off  Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
Henry Shapiro is co-founder at, an intelligent calendar assistant and time management platform used by over 13,000 companies worldwide. In this conversation we talk about some of the practical ways in which time constrains us, and how to manage those constraints. We discuss:  the importance of shifting from a task to a priorities-based approach to managing time  how good time-management requires facing up to our constraints  how to manage the balance our own demands with those of others  the importance of allocating time for good habits  how AI can help us with time, and where it can go too far Prior to founding Reclaim, Henry was VP and GM of Product Management at New Relic, where he led development of observability solutions for tens of thousands of customers. Find out more: Reclaim | Smart Scheduling for Busy Teams Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
This week, we welcome Randima Fernando. Randy works at the intersection of technology, mindfulness and social impact, helping to find ethical solutions to hard problems. Here's a co-founder of Center for Humane Technology (CHT), a nonprofit whose mission is to align technology with humanity's best interests. The Center for Humane Technology was featured in the Emmy winning film, The Social Dilemma, which has been seen by over a hundred million people globally. This episode is the first in our new series on the tools that we use, where we discuss, how technology mediates our lived experiences. In this wide ranging conversation, we delve into some of the systemic issues of the technology industry today, which are now shaping the way that we live. We discuss how business incentives, not human interests, govern design, how no tools are created neutral and why we all, users and designers alike, need to understand what thriving means to us so that we can live these values, eyes wide open, in the tools that we create and use. Randy was previously the founding Executive Director at Mindful Schools, a nonprofit that has taught mindfulness to millions of kids and over 50,000 educators worldwide. Before that, Randy led many award-winning projects and authored 3 books on 3D graphics over seven years at NVIDIA, where he was also inaugural board member of the NVIDIA Foundation. Randy also serves on the board of Spirit Rock Meditation Center. CHT offers several helpful resources: Their free online course, Foundations of Humane Technology, helps product teams create technology that treats attention and intention as sacred, protects well-being, and builds our collective capacity to address humanity’s most urgent challenges. (  Their podcast, Your Undivided Attention, has over 14 million downloads, and explores the incredible power that technology has over our lives — and how we can use it to catalyze a humane future. ( Their free Youth Toolkit helps youth ages 13-25, as well as their parents and teachers, navigate—and push to change—a broken social media environment. ( Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
This week on Freedom Matters we are taking a break from recording, and sharing with you instead an episode from one of our favourite podcasts, Digital Habit Lab from Mind Over Tech. Hosted by Menka Sanghvi, this podcast welcomes guests from different walks of life to observe how we use tech; reflect on how it sometimes uses us; and experiment on ways to make sure it is actually helping us to do what we most value in life. In this episode, Menka interviews Tiu de Haan, a ritual designer, creative facilitator, idea doula and ‘serendipiter’. She curates and creates experiences designed to shift your perspective to see the wonder in the world, helping people to birth their creative ideas and design their own unique path filled with moments of meaning. They discuss the question: Why is it so hard to be intentional in our digital activity? In exploring this question, Menka and Tiu talk about how easily we get into routines (repeated behaviours) that we may even become addicted to, and how rituals can help shift this. A ritual creates a pause in our routine activity, elevating a moment into something bigger and more meaningful. Tiu describes ritual as a “container for emotion, reflection, transition, and sometimes celebration” - a subject she has talked about in more depth in her TED Talk. Find more episodes from the Mind Over Tech podcast, Digital Habit Lab here: Try a Digital Habit Lab experiment: Watch Tiu's TED talk: == Freedom Matters Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Freedom Matters music and audio production: Toccare
This week, we speak with Ingrid, a designer and author whose groundbreaking work reveals the hidden influence of our surroundings on our emotions and wellbeing. As a former design director at IDEO, author of Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness, and the founder of the website The Aesthetics of Joy, she empowers people to find more joy in life and work through design. Her immensely popular TED talk “Where Joy Hides and How to Find It” has been viewed more than 17 million times. I really enjoyed this conversation with Ingrid, where we get to understand: What joy is How our environment's influence joy Why conflicting emotions can spark creativity, and How joy has helped her to build resilience through her life Ingrid has been featured as an expert on design and joy by outlets such as The New York Times, The Guardian, Wired, Real Simple, The Atlantic, the Today Show, HGTV Magazine, and Fast Company. She has over fifteen years of experience in design and branding, having led design programs for Target, Condé Nast, Eileen Fisher, American Express, Kate Spade, Diageo, Pepsico, and the US government, among others. She was a founding faculty member in the Products of Design program at the School of Visual Arts in New York City. Her design work has been exhibited at imm cologne in Germany. Lee holds a Master’s in Industrial Design from Pratt Institute and a Bachelor’s in English and Creative Writing from Princeton University. She loves pancakes, polka dots, and rainbow sprinkles, and has an extensive repertoire of happy dances for any occasion. Read more: The Aesthetics of Joy by Ingrid Fetell Lee Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
James Hamilton Hibbard is a Northern California-based writer and former professional cyclist who studied philosophy at the PhD-level. His philosophical memoir, THE ART OF CYCLING: Philosophy, Meaning, and a Life on Two Wheels (Quercus/ Hachette Australia), explores questions of embodiment and meaning in our increasingly detached and virtual society, and was shortlisted for The Sunday Times 2022 British Sports Book of the Year, Cycling. In this conversation we discuss: - His journey as a professional athlete - His views on the history of philosophy and the guidance that it brings - How his experience cycling has helped him to understand philosophy better - How elite sport prepares you for life A former UCI professional road cyclist with the Shaklee and HealthNet teams, and member of the United States National Team, James has written extensively on the sport of cycling for outlets including and and has been selected for writing residencies and received grants from Tin House and PEN America. James is a graduate of the University of California, Santa Cruz and worked on his Ph.D in philosophy at DePaul University. You can find out more about James at: To order the book: Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
The Freedom Matters Team is taking a short break between seasons, and we thought it was the perfect opportunity to share an episode from the Solo Collective Podcast, hosted by friend of Freedom and former podcast guest, Rebecca Seal. In this episode she interviews Caroline Williams, author of ‘Move! The New Science of Body over Mind’ - an amazing book about how movement impacts the way our brains work from creativity to mental health. We wanted to share this episode, because as the summer break approaches, we all have the perfect opportunity to move more, and reset the level of activity that we have in our every day lives. We hope you enjoy this lively conversation between Caroline and Rebecca. Listen to the original conversation: Enjoy all episodes from the Solo Collective: Find out more about Rebecca: Find out more about Caroline:
In this episode, we welcome Sharath Jeevan OBE, one of the world’s leading experts on intrinsic motivation, direction and potential. He is the Executive Chairman of Intrinsic Labs and author of groundbreaking smart thinking book Intrinsic. In this episode we discuss why we are experiencing a crisis of motivation, where external motivators like money and status fall down, the value of intrinsic motivators, autonomy, mastery and purpose, and how we all have the opportunity to reset the direction of our lives for the better. This episode is part of our mini-series on 'Self' where we explore how our technology impacts some of the most important aspects of being human. In this series we speak with Krista Tippett, creator of On Being, Susie Alegre, human rights lawyer and author of Freedom to Think, L M Sarcasas, renowned commentator on technology & society, Casey Swartz, author of Attention, A Love Story, Jillian Horton, MD, author of We Are All Perfectly Fine and Sharath Jeevan OBE, motivation expert and author of Intrinsic. To find out more about Sharath: To read Intrinsic: Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
Casey Schwartz is a writer in New York City, where she lives with her husband and son. She is the author of Attention, a Love Story (Pantheon, 2020) and In the Mind Fields (Pantheon, 2015). She also contributes regularly to the New York Times. Her most recent book came from an article she wrote for the New York Times Magazine about spending a decade addicted to Adderall. In this episode, we discuss her journey with the drug Adderall and when after years of trying to quit it, she re-entered the world eyes wide open to face a new era where technology was also playing havoc with our attention. We discuss some of the great philosophers and how they perceive attention, and we reflect on her own acceptance that attention can only ever be imperfect. More of her work can be found on her website: Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
This week, we are in conversation with Jillian Horton. Jillian is an award-winning medical educator, writer, musician and podcaster. She completed a residency and a fellowship in internal medicine at the University of Toronto and has held the post of Associate Dean and Associate Chair of that department. For sixteen years, she cared for thousands of patients in an inner-city hospital. During that time, she had three sons and mentored hundreds of students. She now leads the development of new programs related to physician wellness and won the 2020 AFMC–Gold Humanism Award. In this episode we reflect on themes from her book, We are All Perfectly Fine, and discuss: how language can define how we feel  the spectrum from coping to thriving the science behind mindfulness and why it is so powerful This episode is part of our mini-series on 'Self' where we explore how our technology impacts some of the most important aspects of being human. Episodes so far in the series include Krista Tippett, creator of On Being, Susie Alegre, human rights lawyer and author of Freedom to Think, and L M Sarcasas, renowned commentator on technology & society. Upcoming episodes are with Casey Swartz, author of Attention, A Love Story, and Sharath Jeevan OBE, motivation expert and author of Intrinsic.  Our goal: to help all our listeners to think more critically about the role of technology in our lives, and how it shapes who we are. To read We Are All Perfectly Fine: Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
This week we welcome Michael Sacasas, author of The Convivial Society, a newsletter about technology and society. Michael is the associate director of the Christian Study Center of Gainesville and has written for The New Atlantis, The New Inquiry, Comment Magazine, and Real Life Magazine. He is also the author of a forthcoming book 41 Questions: Technology and the Moral Life (Avid Reader Press). In this thought provoking episode we invite all our listeners to reconsider the place of technology in their own lives. We discuss: the role of technology in our lives and how the way that we use tools shapes our experience of the world, and by extension our   existence attention, it's importance and its various forms why Twitter for Michael is a deal with the devil how, even out of the Metaverse, technology reframes our reality the three most important questions everyone should ask of the way that they use technology If you enjoyed our previous conversations with Oliver Burkeman, Nicholas Carr and Krista Tippett, then this episode is for you. This episode is part of our series on "Self", where we explore how our technology impacts some of the most important aspects of being human. Recent episodes include Krista Tippett, creator on On Being, Susie Alegre, human rights lawyer and author of 'Freedom to Think' and upcoming episdoes include Jillian Horton MD, and author of 'We are All Perfectly Fine', Casey Swartz, author of "Attention, A Love Story" and Sharath Jeevan OBE, motivation expert and author of "Intrinsic". Our goal: to help all our listeners to think more critically about the role of technology in our lives, and how it shapes who we are. More from Michael: The Convivial Society Host and Producer: Georgie Powell Music and audio production: Toccare
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Mahtab Haghshenas

What a wonderful conversation 😍 I enjoyed a lot only receiving the positive vibe coming from you too☺️🍀 wish it continues further on🤞

Feb 21st
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