Hacked Off

Following audience responses to Pod 107 with Jason Blake, Secarma Jen Williams has circled back to do a deeper dive into the PSTI legislation and IoT devices. With the legislation going live at the end of April, any manufacturers that have not yet found a successful route to show compliance should listen to this podcast which goes into finer detail with Jason Blake. As IASME's IOT scheme manager, Jason shares a selection of ways to navigate the legislation and he and Jen discuss the ways to approach an accreditation that will also help any business and their devices to improve on the journey. They also look at the wider implications around unsecured internet devices and the likelihood that governing bodies will levy some large fines early on to impress the importance of complying on manufacturers. For more information regarding IOT and the PSTI legislation you can check out the resources section of the secarma.com website at https://secarma.com/resources/iot-and-psti/

Secarma Head of Testing, Simon Chapman, takes over the hosting duties as the Hacked Off podcast returns. Episode 107 focuses on IoT and the new regulations that are forcing manufacturers to place security at the heart of their devices. Simon interviews Jason Blake, IOT scheme manager at IASME and Jen Williams who heads up consultancy services at Secarma. Jason talks us through the diverse world of IoT devices, from smart letter boxes to B2B moisture content monitors for farmers and explains why the need for tighter security regulation is long overdue. Jen approaches the subject from a consumer perspective and poses the risks of a home network that has dozens of ‘always on’ devices connected and the average consumers understanding of this situation. How do we give consumers a confidence around IoT that has perhaps been eroded of late? The panel discuss IASME’s IoT Cyber Secure Scheme and why it’s one of the simplest ways for manufacturers to give their devices the security health checks that they need. You can find more IoT resources, particularly around the PSTI legislation at https://secarma.com/resources/iot-and-psti/ You can find out more about the IASME IoT scheme on their website at https://iasme.co.uk/internet-of-things/ Or on Secarma’s website at https://secarma.com/cybersecurity-services/consultancy/iot-cyber-scheme/

In this episode of Hacked Off, Holly interviews Simon McNamee - Secure Impact's Security Technology Lead. This week, they discuss what issues security experts often encounter when working with businesses; both those with a high level of security maturity, as well as those just starting off on that journey. Holly and Simon offer some sage advice to organisations about getting the most out of their security services - it all starts with understanding the difference between these services and recognising what your business is ready for - and they also share some of their own experiences from different on-site engagements. 1:00 Defining Value 7:00 What happens when nothing happens? 10:50 Goals 13:42 Cyber Essentials & beyond 17:35 Are you ready for a pentest? 22:50 Simulating the bad guys 30:40 Creating a distraction 35:50 Not every attack is ransomware Listening time: 43 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, on behalf of Secarma Guest: Simon McNamee, Security Technology Lead at Secure Impact Ltd Connect with Simon: www.linkedin.com/in/samcnamee Secure Impact: www.secure-impact.com Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

For some organisations, using Security Operation Centre services is a great way to minimise the impact of a possible cyberattack. Moving quickly and effectively, SOCs can detect, analyse and respond to breaches if an organisation doesn’t have the resources to do so themselves. In this episode we spoke to Rob Demain – founder and CEO at e2e-assure – about the role of SOCs, today’s diverse threat landscape, and the importance of research and development when working in cybersecurity. 02:00 Why SOCs? 06:00 Building trust 13:35 Keeping up-to-date 15:40 Delivering the service 23:20 When disaster strikes 29:20 Working with SMEs 33:55 Security risks Listening time: 42 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Rob Demain, founder and CEO at e2e-assure Connect with Rob: www.linkedin.com/in/rob-demain-01733468 e2e-assure: https://www.e2e-assure.com/ Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

In the cybersecurity world, the digital forensics dept acts as the Crime Scene Investigation team for a business that has fallen foul of a cyber-criminal. DFI techniques are used to investigate and rectify the problems caused by the hack, and/or bring the perpetrator to justice. Similarly to traditional forensics, cyber incident response teams can find data to use as evidence in the investigation. In this episode, we talk to David Barr – Principle CIRT Consultant at Secure Impact – about the day-to-day of digital forensics, how the scene is evolving, and what to expect from his talk at UnLocked: London Olympia. 00:35 Working in Digital Forensics 07:20 Research 09:20 Investigating the Incident 15:25 When is Digital Forensics needed? 20:10 Is Digital Forensics Evolving? 21:25 Preparing for Forensics Investigations 24:50 UnLocked: London Olympia 28:30 Careers in Digital Forensics If this episode was of interest to you, you can catch more of David at UnLocked: London Olympia on the 28th September. Tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/unlocked-london-olympia-2021-tickets-153829914415 Listening time: 31 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: David Barr, Principle CIRT Consultant at Secure Impact Connect with David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-barr-a2a639121/ Secure Impact: https://www.secure-impact.com/ Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

Valuing your SME as ‘too small to get hacked’ can leave you complacent and open to attacks, with little to no defences in place. For those who find cybersecurity daunting, there are organisations out there, ready to help. In this episode, we talk to Declan Doyle – head of Ethical Hacking at the Scottish Business Resilience Centre – about cyber resilience, misconceptions around who can get hacked, and understanding clients to best help them stay secure. 00:26 What is the SBRC? 01:35 Resilience 02:55 Helping out 05:35 Misconceptions around size 07:49 Optics and tailoring services 19:55 Different pathways in Cyber 26:50 Engaging with SBRC Listening time: 31 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Declan Doyle, head of Ethical Hacking at the Scottish Business Resilience Centre (SBRC) Connect with Declan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/declandoyle/ SBRC: https://www.sbrcentre.co.uk/ Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

The medium of cyber-attacks is code, but the mastermind that drives them is always human intelligence. Systems are created by people, and automated tech still can't understand every nuance that humans embed into them. In this episode, we talk to Nick Blundell – head of R&D at AppCheck – about the pros and cons of vulnerability scanning, how hackers can enter weak systems and the need for a blended approach. 00:50 Will automation take over? 04:25 Scanning or Pentesting: the pros and cons 17:30 Issues with automation 22:00 Weak systems 52:50 A blended testing approach Listening time: 1 hour 5 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Nick Blundell, head of R&D at Appcheck Appcheck: https://appcheck-ng.com/ Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

In a time of record unemployment due to the pandemic, it’s strange that cybersecurity job openings receive so little applicants and take 20% longer to fill than typical IT roles. Is there a cyber skills shortage, or are we simply looking in the wrong places? In this episode, we talk to Greg van der Gaast – CISO at Scoutbee GMBH and author of Rethinking InfoSec – about how we can rethink the cyber hiring process and role requirements, in order to find many more suitable candidates. We also touch on diversity, the role of HR, and building stronger enterprising teams. 00:28 Security in supply discovery 02:30 Rethinking InfoSec 09:20 Synergy 12:00 Resourceful recruitment 17:50 Finding the right fit 20:18 Health, safety, and growth 27:44 The role of HR Listening time: 32 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Greg van der Gaast, CISO at Scoutbee GMBH and author of Rethinking InfoSec Scoutbee GMBH: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scoutbee/ Connect with Greg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregvandergaast/ Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

To celebrate Hacked Off's 100th episode, we spoke with Jai Aenugu – founder of TechForce Cyber - a highly regarded cybersecurity resilience organisation with offices in both Edinburgh and Aberdeen. This week’s podcast features conversation around what sets Scotland apart in terms of cybersecurity, doing one thing and doing it really well, plus security essentials for SMEs, and an overview of the NotPetya and Kaseya cyber-attacks. 0:49 Cybersecurity in Scotland 4:45 Why found an InfoSec business? 7:00 The Kasaya attack 10;10 Minimising impact 14:00 Don't plan for ransomware 19:45 Security bias 25:00 When phishing turns foul 30:30 Risk 37:00 The baseline and beyond 41:00 Look after the customer Listening time: 46 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Jai Aenugu, Founder of TechForce Cyber TechForce Cyber: www.techforce.co.uk Contact: hello@techforce.co.uk Connect with Jai: www.linkedin.com/in/jai23155/?originalSubdomain=uk Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

Workplace security training can be hit or miss; to keep your business safe, your awareness training needs to be memorable, but a conventional annual security presentation on passwords and phishing scams can be tedious and forgettable. In this episode, we talk to Ian Murphy – founder and content creator at CyberOff, and co-founder of LMNTRIX – about how we can utilise engaging, out-of-the-box content to revamp security training and get the general population excited about security practices. 00:50 Creating engaging content 06:48 The need for a new approach 15:00 Context, content and culture 19:45 Attracting an audience 21:40 What’s going wrong? 24:15 The need for good communication 30:53 Building content 37:20 Valuing time and skills Listening time: 45 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Ian Murphy, Founder of CyberOff and Co-Founder of LMNTRIX CyberOff: www.cyberoff.co.uk LMNTRIX: www.lmntrix.com Connect with Ian: www.linkedin.com/in/ianmurphy Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

Security awareness training is a common requirement in most businesses, but oftentimes it can be difficult to effectively teach employees how to recognise and respond to security risks. In this episode, we speak with Javvad Malik – Security Awareness Advocate at KnowBe4, co-founder of Security B-Sides London and cybersecurity blogger – about the variety of risks out there, the challenges of security awareness training, and how best to promote it. 00:28 What is a Security Awareness Advocate? 02:45 Challenges 11:14 Messaging 16:20 Importance of Security Champions 19:25 Minimising risk 21:45 Lesser-known types of phishing attacks 29:20 Promotion 38:10 The fear of embarrassment 40:40 Bias and the role of marketing Listening time: 46 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guests: Javvad Malik, Security Awareness Advocate at KnowBe4 KnowBe4: www.knowbe4.com Connect with Javvad: www.linkedin.com/in/javvad/ Javvad on Twitter: www.twitter.com/J4vv4d Resources: Daniel Kahneman’s Ted Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kahneman_the_riddle_of_experience_vs_memory Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

Studies in recent years have revealed how little diversity there is within the cybersecurity industry, with women making up only 8% of the cyber workforce in the UK. In this episode, we speak with Dr Andrea Cullen and Lorna Armitage – co-founders of cyber training organisation CAPSLOCK – about the difficulties of getting into cyber, the need for accessibility and inclusivity in the industry, and recruitment advice for organisations and those wanting to get hired. 02:52 Obstacles for those wanting to enter the industry 09:33 Cyber skills 14:05 Building confidence 16:35 Breaking into cyber 21:32 Imposter syndrome and conquering fears 31:14 Finding yourself and your strengths 36:14 The importance of finding a good fit 39:21 Advice for those wanting to get into the industry and recruiters Listening time: 44 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guests: Dr Andrea Cullen and Lorna Armitage, co-founders of CAPSLOCK CAPSLOCK: https://www.capslock.ac Connect with Andrea: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-andrea-c-57a29522/ Connect with Lorna: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorna-armitage/ Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

Over the past year and a half, the event industry have had to adapt like never before, and this led to many events going online via webinars, digital roundtables, and large-scale virtual conferences. In this episode, we interviewed Natasha Taylor - Senior Conference Producer at DTX - about what makes a successful cybersecurity event, networking from home, and what the future of tech conferences could look like. 0.40 Preparation is everything 4:36 What makes a good panel or presentation? 8:50 It's good to disagree 14:55 Overcoming obstacles 17:20 Technical difficulties 22:30 Why you should give public speaking a go 26:00 Finding a balance 34:20 The future of networking Listening time: 45 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Natasha Taylor, Senior Conference Producer at DTX Europe & DTX Manchester DTX Europe: www.dt-x.io/europe/en/page/dtx-europe DTX 360: www.dtx360.io/live/en/page/home Connect with Natasha: www.linkedin.com/in/natasha-taylor-6969a0a9 Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

This week, Holly is joined by Clean.io's Kathleen Booth to talk about how the very methods that marketing teams use to bring in customers may also attract the unwanted attention of cyber-criminals. Whether it's third party plug-ins, digital ads, or even a stray tweet - hackers can corrupt your marketing department's efforts and attack your organisation. Thankfully, there are ways to balance robust business security without cutting your marketing team off at the knees. Listen to this week's interview for discussion around innovative yet secure marketing strategies, the importance of cybersecurity awareness training, and why marketers and security staff should be best friends. 0.20 About Clean.io 2:47 3rd party code: what are the risks? 13:00 Broaden your security awareness training 21:00 Marketing + Security 29:10 The attack surface 31:55 Good cyber hygiene 32:55 The keys to the kingdom 35:55 How it feels to be hacked Listening time: 42 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Kathleen Booth, VP Marketing at Clean.io Find out more here: www.clean.io Kathleen's podcast: https://inboundsuccesspodcast.com Connect with Kathleen: www.linkedin.com/in/kathleenslatterybooth Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

This week, Holly speaks with Patricia Keating, founder of Tech Manchester - a start-up hub designed to upskill Manchester-based entrepreneurs, nurture their ideas, and connect them with investors. They discuss cybersecurity for start-ups, the tech business landscape in Manchester, and how virtual conferencing allows you to be in two places at once. 1:20 Working with start-ups 3:55 Is London the only tech hub? 5:30 Common misconceptions 7:55 Mentoring tech business founders 12:00 What does "failing" mean? 16:00 Work-life balance 22:35 Crisis spawns innovation 30:05 Working from home means working anywhere 34:00 Sharing the journey Listening time: 36 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Patricia Keating, Founder of Tech Manchester Find out more here: www.techmanchester.co.uk Patricia's podcast: www.podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/fastforward/id1438089653 Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

This week, Holly delves deeper into the topic of security higher education and training with Dr Dan Prince - Senior Lecturer in Security and Protection Science at Lancaster University's School of Computing and Communications. Together, they discuss the challenges that the mentors of today have when teaching the security experts of tomorrow, how to prepare students for threats that may not exist, and how thinking differently may be the key to keeping one step ahead of threat actors. 1:00 Preparing the next generation 4:30 Creating the framework for a Masters in security 9:55 Where is the line? 17:15 Know your enemy 20:40 Working with the NCSC 29:30 Bridging the disconnect 34:00 Taking notes from R2-D2 36:00 How does Lancaster University engage with companies? Listening time: 43 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Dr Dan Prince, Senior Lecturer at Lancaster University Contact Dan here: www.linkedin.com/in/drdanielprince You can find more info about Lancaster University's security research centre here: www.lancaster.ac.uk/scc Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

Recently, the University of Salford announced their partnership with Tanium, to help the education institution improve their security against an increase of attacks. Universities have been high up on the target list for threat actors over the course of the pandemic, and these nefarious parties aren't slowing down anytime soon. In this episode, Holly interviews Mark Wantling - the University of Salford's CISO, as well as Chris Vaughan of Tanium to understand more about their partnership and trade tips on protecting the education sector from cyber-attacks. 1:00 Security challenges in higher education 3:40 Joiners, movers, and leavers 8:30 Are the basics really all that basic? 13:10 How Covid-19 has pushed digital transformation 15:00 Visibility is key 22:00 Your whole security team vs a single pentester 33:00 Are universities sitting ducks for cybercriminals? 37:45 Should you pay the ransom? 40:00 Stop calling it a ransomware attack 45:50 Are you setting the bar high enough? 57:30 Timing is everything 59:00 Closing remarks Listening time: 60 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guests: Mark Wantling, CISO at the University of Salford Chris Vaughan, Technical Account Manager at Tanium More info on Salford & Tanium's partnership: www.tanium.com/customers/university-of-salford www.tanium.com/press-releases/tanium-helps-protect-the-university-of-salford-from-surge-of-cyberattacks Contact Mark here: www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wantling-7b149690 More about the University of Salford: www.salford.ac.uk Contact Chris and other Tanium reps here: www.tanium.com Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455 NCSC approved security tips: www.ncsc.gov.uk/collection/10-steps

Although our specialty is penetration testing, there's a wide variety of interesting roles available within the security industry. In this episode, Holly sits down with Evan Jones of Complete Cyber, to explore the ins and outs of security architecture. Over the course of the conversation, they discuss the skills necessary to become a security architect, the benefits of using a pen and paper to map out possible threats, and Evan also explains how solution architecture is a lot like a Rubik's cube... somehow. 0:35 Transferring your skills 3:30 What is a security architect? 15:00 What makes a good security architect? 17:00 Dear customers, help us help you 30:30 Threat modelling with a pen and paper 44:20 Very naughty people and adapting to your audience 46:00 The 6th face of the cube Listening time: 50 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Evan Jones, Lead Security Architect at Complete Cyber Find out more here: www.completecyber.co.uk www.twitter.com/completecyber Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

In last week's episode we talked about how security professionals can leverage their skills to get into cyber, but how do you obtain those skills in the first place? Enter Jonathan Slater, co-founder of CapsLock and our guest for today. In this episode, we discuss his journey from nuclear, to recruitment, to co-founding a disruptive education model that's designed to help everyone from bus drivers to web developers gain a qualification - and most importantly, employment - in cybersecurity. We also take a deep dive into how candidates can make themselves more attractive to hiring managers, diversity in cyber, and the benefits of starting all over again. 3:15 Stepping down to step up 5:50 Roles to work towards 14:00 Group projects 20:00 Communication, communication, communication 22:30 Increasing your employability 26:15 Sidebar - what is DevSecOps? 31:40 Diversity in cyber 35:15 Reskilling recommendations 36:50 Different roles, sectors, and company sizes 41:30 Standing out from the crowd Listening time: 50 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Jonathan Slater, Co-founder of CapsLock Find out more here: www.capslock.ac Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455

In this episode, Holly interviews Jay Jay Davey - SOC Analyst at CyberClan and founder of NoxCyber - a one stop page of career advice for aspiring cyber security professionals, with resources to help you get into the industry. We spoke with him about the different routes into cyber, as well as what to do once you're in. Listen to this episode for career advice, CV tips, and why explaining what networks are to your parents could lead you being a CEO's shoulder to cry on one day. 1:05 About NoxCyber 2:40 Getting into cybersecurity 7:15 Getting hired 13:05 The different roles in cyber 22:30 Are mentors vital? 26:35 Public speaking 37:00 Develop your writing skills and promote yourself 40:10 The importance of emotional intelligence in cyber Listening time: 43 minutes Host: Holly Grace Williams, MD at Secarma Guest: Jay Jay Davey, founder of NoxCyber Find Jay Jay here: www.noxcyber.co.uk www.linkedin.com/in/noxcyber Our website: www.secarma.com Tweet us: www.twitter.com/Secarma Events: www.eventbrite.co.uk/o/secarma-ltd-31129456455