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Join veteran journalist and wellness coach Emily Abbate, on Hurdle — a wellness-focused podcast where she talks to inspirational people about everything from their highest highs and toughest moments to essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier, more motivated life. We all go through our fair share of hurdles. Emily's goal through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate yours and move with intention so that you can stride toward your own big potential and of course — have some fun along the way. Tell us: What's your #hurdlemoment?
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Can't believe I'm typing this: Last episode of 2024, coming at you! Hurdle's going on a well-deserved two week season break before coming back January 1 in full force, and I'm talking today about how it feels to round out another year and what I'm looking forward to accomplishing in 2025. Plus: Answering a listener question about my go-to hair products for post-workout.
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On the cusp of a new year, it's time to talk about what's coming down the pipe in the world of wellness. I sat down with my dear friend Amy Eisinger, Head of content at Well+Good, to talk about their annual wellness trends report and what we should look to focus on in the new year. We talk about the concept of hard vs. soft wellness, the rise of recovery tourism, the power of alone time, and why we should be prioritizing biophilia in 2025. I always learn something new from Amy and this conversation also allowed us to look at what we personally want to prioritize as we look to kick off another year of wellness.
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Amy’s road that led to Well + Good (5:03)
What women can expect when they go to Well + Good (9:15)
Amy and Emily look back at their 2024 wellness journey (11:05)
‘Soft’ vs. ‘hard’ wellness and how to integrate both into your routine (14:30)
Recovery tourism and the importance of restorative breaks in 2025 (20:15)
The emotional relationship with money and how we find financial freedom (26:03)
A rebrand for alone time + solo travel (30:40)
What is biophilia and why we need more of it in the new year (37:31)
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Are you worried that you should have it all figured out? You're not alone. Talking about my plans going into 2025, and getting intentional about the down time. Plus: Answering a listener question about how to become a morning workout person.
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Noelle Lambert is grateful that she lost her leg in a tragic 2016 accident. Without that hurdle, she says that she wouldn't be the person she is today. For episode 331, the two-time Paralympian opens up about what life's been like coming into her own as an adaptive athlete, and how she needed to grieve the loss of her limb to truly be able to move forward despite wanting to be "strong." She also shares how her village helped her during her toughest moments, what it was like competing at the Paralympics in both the 100m and long jump events, as well as some insight onto her time on Survivor and what it was like integrating back into society post-reality TV.
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What happens when you're honest with yourself about where you are now? Well, what ~can~ happen is change, and some fun results. Reflecting on Thursday's turkey trot, landing a new personal best, and letting go of the past. Plus: Answering a listener question about my go-to book gift.
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The Pivot Year
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I’ve done plenty of live shows in my almost seven years of podcasting. Still, there was something really special about Wednesday night in Austin. Roughly 1,700+ miles from home, I sat down in a packed Austin venue of 150+ women with our surprise guest — 2024 Olympian and the fastest woman from Ireland, Rhasidat Adeleke. We talked about what it was like for her to move to the states for college from Ireland and to level up within sport, and how she’s managed the heartbreak of coming in fourth at the Games.
We laughed. We cried. We smiled — a lot.
I sat there in awe. Of her mindset, tenacity, and vulnerability, especially when it came to recapping that August race. In this week's episode, she talks about the highs and lows of competition, embracing the good with the bad, and whether or not she has a favorite taco in Austin. Plus: Her hopes for "what's next?" and her favorite Nike sneaker.
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(6:00) What Rhasidat changed within her running technique to better her stride
(9:24) Mindset training: Has she done any, and how has she has used experience to get her mind right to go after her big goals.
(10:26) You need to have short term memory with failure, don’t let it drag you down.
(11:30) Why Rhasidat made the decision to move to Texas, and how it felt for her at first to move to the United States
(15:05) Rhasidat talks about her upbringing in Ireland and what she’s most grateful for
(20:00) How Rhasidat defines success
(25:19) How training in college is different than going pro
(30:50) How she felt walking into the Olympic stadium for the first time and arriving in Paris
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New York City Marathon Recap
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There's something important about being able to find the calm in stillness. As I finish up my final work trip of the year, I'm reflecting on where I've been and where I'm (not) going. Plus: Answering a listener question about making and maintaining friendships in your thirties.
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It's here: Recapping my 2024 New York City Marathon experience on the show today! Including: Why I decided to run, how I got my entry, and what the training cycle entailed (and also, what it didn't). Plus: My race day prep, how I owned my no, and details from how I felt throughout the duration of the course. Plus: Some insights on what's next after finishing in 3:28:33 (plus, how that makes me feel) — how I'm feeling now, and what my biggest takeaways were from my 14th 26.2-mile race.
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Chicago Marathon Recap
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If you want to feel hyped to go after your next big goal, this episode is for you. Sat down with Olympians and Brooks athletes Chari Hawkins and Josh Kerr in New York recently for a life show, and debriefed a crazy summer and the work went into showing up in Paris. Chari — Olympic heptathlete — opens up about mental health after a disappointing Games. And Josh? The silver medalist and current mile record holder on US soil gives his perspective on hard work and the importance of trusting the process. These are two unbelievable athletes with inspiring advice and unique perspectives on training for success and overcoming the hurdles that come with striving for greatness.
IN THIS EPISODE
Josh’s recollection of his silver 1500 meter race in Paris (4:40)
Executing your plan A and how to pivot when you need to refocus on your plan B (6:15)
How to show up again after not getting the result you wanted (11:10)
Chari’s ‘why’ and her perspective on the heptathlon (15:06)
Josh’s self belief and the importance of trusting the process (17:50)
How to focus on positive self talk when negative thoughts creep in (24:05)
Chari’s biggest takeaway from the Paris Games (31:40)
Advice for anyone having to navigate injury (35:10)
The opportunity costs that goes with performing and such an elite level (39:10)
What Chari and Josh are doing to stay excited for what’s ahead after Paris (47:10)
Chari on vulnerability and relatability (54:12)
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I've been trying to be more mindful about how I get from point A to point B, and it's making a major difference. Sharing some insights, plus answering a listener question about sneaker shopping and what every runner should have in their rotation.
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There’s no one I’d rather debrief the marathon with than the ever-inspiring Kirsten Ferguson. We're sitting down to talk through those special 26.2 miles in detail and the journey to the marathon starting line over the past 16 training weeks with her. Beyond the training cycle, we also get deep into Kirsten’s journey from a holistic view, starting with a gnarly injury and major setback that paused her marathon journey for a while.
The Peloton instructor takes us through the months on the road to recover where she truly struggled both physically and mentally and how she turned to her community for strength. We talk about the nerves that come with stepping into the unknown and how Kirsten keeps those feelings at bay as well as what she’s excited about and looking forward to post 26.2.
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The moment Kirsten committed to the marathon (4:02)
Kirsten’s mentality post-hip surgery and how she turned to her community for strength (7:12)
How to know when you are fully ready to move on and recognizing growth (10:45)
Finding grace and cultivating positivity to meet yourself with where your at (15:23)
Feelings from finishing her first half marathon and most unexpected lessons from training (18:15)
The reason Kirsten chose to run most of her training runs solo (31:27)
A glimpse inside Kirsten’s headspace in those 26.2 miles of her inaugural marathon (38:08)
How Kirsten’s vision came to life running up to her Peloton family (48:34)
The memory of embracing her daughters at the finish line (51:00)
Kirsten’s biggest takeaway from the race and what’s next for her (56:50)
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I did a bit of catastrophizing this week. I don't think I'm alone in that. But what if my first inclination, rather, was to be a little more positive? Talking about a tough week, answer "how are you?" honestly, and answering a listener question about how to cope AND give your body the rest it needs.
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Welcome Shalane Flanagan, Olympic medalist, 2017 New York City Marathon Champion, Coach for the Bowerman Track Club and University of Oregon to the show! Loved the opportunity to sit back down with Shalane at this year's New York City Marathon, on behalf of her sponsor at Mastercard. We chat about what's the latest in her life, how it feels to step into her role as a coach, and her feelings about running this year's NYCM. Plus: Best-practice marathoning tips and her best pep talk to date.
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Firstly: Dakotah Lindwurm is now Dakotah Popehn after getting married last weekend! Welcoming her back to the show to talk about Dakotah’s Olympic experience and all that went into her impressive race before diving into the early days of her running career, how her Olympic dream came to be, and what it’s been like since her "running glow up."
Dakotah talks about leaving her career as a paralegal to go all in as a pro runner and how she’s been able to focus on her body in all aspects to both prepare for big race days and recover quicker than ever. Dakotah’s sense of self belief is so inspiring and we talk about her why0not-me perspective and the tools and tricks she uses when that self doubt creeps in.
Dakotah’s first time on Hurdle Podcast
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A reflection on Dakotah’s Olympic experience (4:30)
How Dakotah’s upbringing sparked her "why not me" mentality and how to channel the same self belief (9:05)
Dakotah’s decision to self away as a paralegal (12:45)
The power of a pro/con list when making big decisions (17:25)
Combating intrusive thoughts when reaching for big goals (21:35)
Dakotah’s early running days and her first glimpse at the Olympic dream (23:30)
The pieces that have helped her thrive in running the past few years (29:18)
The story behind Dakotah’s biggest fan at the Olympics and how they united in NYC (31:46)
Getting to her dream without her mom by her side (43:24)
Dakotah’s perspective on dealing with grief (46:11)
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Listened to a really powerful conversation the other night, some of which I'm excerpting here on the brink of New York City Marathon Weekend. Plus: Answering a listener question of how to show up and be your authentic self online.
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On the heels of the New York Liberty's championship win, amped to have Adidas athlete Betnijah Laney on the show! We chat through how it feels to be a champion, the parade in downtown Manhattan, and how Barclays Center felt on that epic winning night. Betnijah lets us in on her backstory, the hurdles she’s overcome to get to this point, and just how monumental her friends and family’s support means in pursuing her dreams.
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A reflection on game five and Betnijah’s mindset going into big moments (4:40)
The biggest strength of this year’s championship team and what made this team great (7:00)
What support looks like for Betnijah and the impact it has on her success (9:05)
The early days of Betnijah’s basketball career (15:13)
Betnijah’s advice on motivation and resilience (18:45)
The biggest hurdles of Betnijah’s career and how she shifts focus when the doubt starts to creep in (23:16)
When things really started to click for Benijah on the court how the she feeds off the support of the Liberty community (32:23)
What it’s like to be an adidas athlete and what their support means to the athletes they support (36:43)
Amplifying the message of female athletes and how it feels to be part of the future and growth of women in sport (38:30)
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Landed my first pull-up in eight years yesterday! Talking about the process that got me there in today's episode, plus answering a listener question about how to navigate the frustrating process of taking time off.
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I recently shared some sentiments on my personal struggle with burnout and depression, and I heard from so many of you experiencing the same thing and looking for some answers. Enter Dr. Elizabeth Sharp, the founder and medical director at Health Meets Wellness. We do a dive deep into the topics of burnout and seasonal depression, and we talk the signs and symptoms, how to distinguish between the two, treatment options (with or without medication), and helpful daily practices to improve overall wellbeing and mental health.
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Dr. Sharp’s background and her Health Meets Wellness practice (4:07)
A deep dive into burnout: what it is and why it happens (9:30)
The difference between burnout and seasonal depression (11:40)
What happens to our bodies during seasonal shifts (16:15)
Symptoms of seasonal depression (21:25)
What to expect when going on medication for something like seasonal depression (25:05)
Evaluating whether it’s time to revisit medication (31:40)
Alternatives to medication when suffering from burnout or seasonal depression (32:56)
The impact of gratitude practices on overall wellbeing and mental health (36:55)
Dr. Sharp’s tips for combating burnout throughout the day (39:21)
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There's something happening right now that I didn't expect, and it's something that I can't quite explain. Talking about how I'm feeling going into the New York City Marathon on November 3, and answering a listener question on how to do a self-audit.
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Had the priveledge to bring Des Linden, Boston Marathon Champion, Olympian, and a Captain for Every Women's Marathon, back onto Hurdle this week. We're catching up, sharing some laughs, and going in-depth on everything you may need to know if you want to run a marathon. Whether you're a beginner or a veteran, this episode is packed with best-practice tips for everything from fueling to recovery; execution to navigating pre-race jitters.
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So many amazing nuggets in this episode! If you are looking for some inspiration to do better, to show up better, look no further. Coach Bennett gives great practical advice on improving your running while being flexible with yourself and your environment. He also shares some of his story while dropping a number of inspiring, teaching moments.
I was training for the Hogeye Marathon in Northwest Arkansas scheduled for yesterday (March 28). I took the virtual option, stepped out my front door, ran a 7-mile loop 3 1\2 times. it was hard as hell, including a downpour, but I'm glad I did it -- and I'll get my medal! #R4J
Hey there! I just finished listening to episode #1 and I'm really glad I found your show. As a guy who has had to overcome some huge hurdles (fitness being no small part of that story) I can relate. Perhaps this will serve as some motivation for my current post-injury slump and help get me over THIS hurdle! Thanks for what you're doing. :) Keep it up! - Jonathon C. (youth and adult rock climbing coach, recovering runner, recovering climber, recovering cyclist/mountain biker, recovering human!)