If Not Now, When?

On this episode of If Not Now, When?, WE sit down with Blue Stiley—motivational speaker, mentor, and host of the Navigating No podcast—for a powerful conversation about rejection, resilience, and what it really means to lead with vulnerability.From his early years training in martial arts to building a successful fitness business in Seattle, publishing his first book The Sum of 4, and now speaking on stages across the country, Blue has spent his life leaning into challenge and turning setbacks into growth. In this episode, we talk about the “no’s” that shaped him, the mentors that changed his life, and the moment he decided to stop waiting for permission and start showing up fully.If you’ve ever struggled with failure, questioned your next step, or wondered what your “If Not Now, When?” moment might look like, this one’s for you.

If Not Now, When? is back — and we’re kicking off this new chapter with a conversation that helped shape the show from the beginning.In this relaunch episode, Brennon sits down with longtime friend and creative collaborator Josh Hissong — co-founder of HDG Architecture and one of the driving forces behind Spokane’s design-forward momentum. Together, they reflect on what’s changed over the past six months, where the podcast is headed, and how If Not Now, When? is shifting focus toward the people building Spokane’s future from the ground up.This isn’t just a catch-up — it’s a reintroduction. We dive into Josh’s journey as an entrepreneur, his “If Not Now, When?” moment, and what it means to take a leap on something you believe in. If you’re passionate about community, creativity, and betting on yourself — this one’s for you.New episodes drop monthly on the If Not Now, When? and Spokast feeds.

On this episode of If Not Now, When?, we sit down with Emilie Cameron, President & CEO of the Downtown Spokane Partnership, to talk about the future of Spokane’s urban core. Emilie brings years of experience in city-building and revitalization—from Sacramento to Spokane—and shares her perspective on how we can create a more vibrant, welcoming, and walkable downtown.We discuss the importance of local businesses, housing access, civic engagement, and what it really takes to build a thriving downtown community. Emilie also gives us a look ahead at the upcoming State of Downtown & Awards event, happening Friday, May 30, 2025, at the Spokane Convention Center, featuring keynote speaker Peter Kageyama, author of For the Love of Cities.If you care about the future of downtown Spokane—or just love hearing how leaders are working to build stronger communities—this one’s for you. Learn more and get involved at downtownspokane.org.

On this episode of If Not Now, When?, we sit down with Gonzaga legend and community leader Matt Santangelo to dive into his journey from standout point guard to a key figure in Spokane’s basketball culture. As a leader of the 1998-99 Zags team that made history with Gonzaga’s first-ever NCAA Tournament run, Matt helped lay the foundation for decades of success. But his impact extends far beyond the court.After his playing days, Matt dedicated himself to growing Spokane’s basketball scene, serving as the former Executive Director of Hoopfest, the world’s largest 3-on-3 basketball tournament, and playing a major role in the development of Hooptown USA. His work has helped cement Spokane as a true basketball city, inspiring generations of athletes and bringing the community together through the game he loves.Whether you’re a die-hard Zags fan or just someone who loves Spokane, this conversation is packed with insights, stories, and a deep appreciation for the city’s hoops culture. Don’t miss it!

On today’s episode of If Not Now, When?, we’re thrilled to welcome Alex Ekins, co-owner of Fern Plant Shop—a business that has blossomed into a beloved staple for plant lovers across Spokane and beyond. From humble beginnings as a handmade jewelry and Etsy shop to opening three thriving locations, including their newest space in Downtown Spokane, Alex and his partner Amy have built more than just a business—they’ve cultivated a vibrant, green-spirited community.In this conversation, we dive into the journey of starting and growing Fern Plant Shop, the importance of creating spaces that bring people together, and the challenges and opportunities of being a small business owner in Spokane. Alex shares insights on navigating the evolving downtown scene, balancing entrepreneurship with life in the Inland Northwest, and why plants are more than just décor—they’re about connection, care, and community.

Welcome back to the If Not Now, When? podcast! Today, we’re joined by Luke Baumgarten—a writer, community organizer, and lifelong Spokanite who has made a lasting impact on the city’s creative and cultural landscape. From co-founding the arts nonprofit Terrain to launching RANGE, a community-focused news organization, Luke has been at the forefront of fostering creativity and telling important stories throughout the Inland Northwest. In this episode, we dive into Luke’s journey, from his time growing up in North Spokane and attending Gonzaga University to his ongoing efforts in community building and journalism. His work with RANGE aims to bring fresh perspectives and amplify the voices of those often left out of traditional media, adding a new dimension to how stories are told in Spokane. We’ll also explore Luke’s vision for the future of Spokane, the importance of urban spaces that inspire connection, and how creativity and journalism can shape a more inclusive and vibrant community. 

On this episode of If Not Now, When?, we sit down with Chef Chad White, a celebrated culinary innovator and proud Spokanite. Known for his time on Top Chef and his celebrated restaurants across San Diego and Tijuana, Chad’s return to Spokane in 2015 sparked an exciting chapter for the city’s dining scene. We explore Chad’s journey back home, including the inspiration behind his downtown ceviche bar, Zona Blanca, and the challenges he faced running a restaurant amidst rising costs and public safety concerns. Chad also opens up about his newest project, Trail Feast—an off-road dining adventure that merges his passion for food with the great outdoors. Join us as we dive into Chad’s reflections on Spokane’s evolving culinary landscape, the importance of community support, and what the future holds for one of the city’s most passionate chefs.

On this episode of the If Not Now When podcast, we sit down with Jim Frank, founder of Greenstone Homes and a pioneer in Spokane’s real estate development. Jim has dedicated his career to transforming the city's landscape, creating sustainable and connected communities like the iconic Kendall Yards. With deep roots in Spokane and a background in engineering and law, Jim has been instrumental in driving thoughtful urban growth across the region. We dive into Jim’s remarkable journey, discussing the evolution of Spokane's housing market, the importance of smart urban design, and his vision for the city's future. Whether you're interested in community development, real estate, or just curious about how Spokane continues to grow and change, this conversation offers valuable insights into the future of urban living. Tune in to hear how Jim's work has shaped Spokane’s landscape and what’s next for the city.

Jon Neill, the Executive Director of the Community Cancer Fund and a passionate advocate for Spokane's running community. Jon's journey through life and his dedication to giving back to the community truly exemplify the spirit of Spokane. Growing up in Pullman, Washington, Jon's love for running was ignited in high school, leading him to Gonzaga University, where he immersed himself in Spokane's rich running culture. Upon arriving in Spokane, Jon quickly integrated into the community, building relationships and volunteering at races and events. His dedication to community building culminated in the creation of The Boulevard Race, a fall event that showcases Spokane's scenic streets and landmarks while fostering a sense of community. The inaugural race was a huge success, featuring a meticulously planned course with cheer zones and marching bands, creating a thrilling and heartwarming experience for participants. Looking ahead, Jon envisions a bright future for both the Community Cancer Fund and The Boulevard Race, blending entertainment with fundraising to foster deep community engagement. As we dive into our conversation with Jon, you'll hear about his journey and the exciting plans for the upcoming Boulevard Race on September 22nd. So, whether you're a runner, a volunteer, or simply a supporter, there's a place for you in this incredible community. Let's jump in and hear more about Jon Neill's inspiring journey and the future of The Boulevard Race and the Community Cancer Fund. Sign up for the Boulevard Race at the following link, boulevardrace.com

Brandon Haugen is the Executive Director of Real Estate for the Kalispel Tribal Economic Authority and a lifelong Spokane resident dedicated to transforming our city. Brandon’s journey began as a valet at Northern Quest Resort & Casino and has evolved into leading significant development projects throughout Spokane. With a background in planning from the University of Wyoming and an MBA focused on American Indian entrepreneurship from Gonzaga University, Brandon brings a unique blend of expertise and passion to his role. His work extends beyond real estate, having served as President of the West Plains Chamber of Commerce and as a board member of the Spokane Sports Commission. Brandon’s commitment to creating phenomenal community spaces and his vision for making Spokane a true destination makes him an inspiring guest on If Not Now, When.

Join host Joshua Hissong and producer Brennon Poynor on the ‘If Not Now, When?’ podcast as they return from a hiatus. Josh shares stories of HDG’s recent exploits and their new coffee table book, ‘MAKE IT MATTER.’ They also discuss the impact of hospitality on community vibes and commit to more community engagement and volunteerism as they relaunch the podcast.   00:00 Introduction 00:48 Reintroducing the Show 01:14 Updates from Josh 01:54 HDG's New Projects 04:13 Inspirations From Traveling  07:29 Spokane's Design and Hospitality 10:09 Podcast Engagement and Community Involvement 14:22 Upcoming Guests and Future Plans 25:05 Conclusion and Call to Action

On this episode of "If Not Now When," we're thrilled to sit down with Gonzaga basketball legend Adam Morrison. From growing up in Spokane and making waves on the court for Mead High School to putting Gonzaga on the national scene during his Bulldogs era, Adam's journey is one of resilience, passion, and unwavering dedication to the game. As a prolific scorer and two-time WCC Player of the Year, Morrison's college accolades include being named a consensus First-Team All-American, leading the nation in scoring, and receiving prestigious awards such as the Oscar Robertson Trophy, the Adolph Rupp Trophy, and the Wooden Award. Join us as we explore the pivotal moments of Adam's college career and his impact on the Gonzaga basketball program. After stints in the NBA and overseas, Adam returned to his roots in Spokane, where he continues to contribute to the basketball community. As one-half of the Gonzaga Men's Basketball Radio Broadcast and the host of his own podcast, The Perimeter, Adam offers invaluable insights into the game he loves. Today, Adam still calls Spokane home, coaching his children and sharing his wealth of basketball knowledge with fans nationwide. Join hosts Josh Hissong and Brennon Poynor as they sit down with Adam Morrison to discuss his incredible journey and his enduring legacy on the sport and the city of Spokane.

On this episode of "If Not Now When," we uncover the political journey of a true Spokane native, David Condon. Serving as the mayor of Spokane from 2011 to 2019, Condon's story is deeply intertwined with the city's transformative years. Born and raised in Spokane, Condon's roots trace back to his graduation from Gonzaga Preparatory School in 1992. His educational journey took him to Boston College, where he earned a B.A. degree in Finance and Military Science. The call to serve led him to the U.S. Army, where he rose to the rank of captain before retiring in 2005. Post-military, Condon's path led him to small business and eventually to the role of deputy chief of staff for U.S. Congresswoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers. In May 2011, he took on a new challenge by entering the mayoral race, aiming to bring a fresh perspective to Spokane's leadership. His victory over incumbent mayor Mary Verner marked the beginning of a period of significant change. Join us as we delve into the intricacies of Mayor David Condon's mayoral tenure, exploring the challenges, accomplishments, and lasting impact he made on the city of Spokane.  Get ready for a compelling conversation that traverses the past, present, and future of Spokane with David A. Condon.

On this episode of "If Not Now When," we dive into the remarkable journey of a true Spokane native, Michael Senske. Born and raised in the heart of the Lilac City, Michael's story is one of family legacies and deep-rooted commitment to community. The Senske name is synonymous with business excellence in Spokane, with Michael's grandfather, Bill Senske, founding Chemical Weed and Pest Control, now known as Senske Services. This family venture, initiated in 1947, stands today as a trusted and integral part of the region's business landscape. Michael's educational journey took him from Ferris High School to the University of Washington, where he earned a degree in Psychology. Furthering his commitment to growth and leadership, he completed the Owner/President Management Program at Harvard Business School. After college, Michael ventured into the tech world, contributing his skills to Microsoft's Product Services division. However, Spokane's pull was strong, and in 1997, Michael returned to join Pearson Packaging Systems. Climbing through the ranks, he assumed the role of President in 2003. Beyond business, Michael is a dedicated community leader, currently serving on the Board of Directors for the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco Seattle Branch, representing the Spokane/Coeur d'Alene region. Join us as we unravel the layers of Michael Senske's experiences, insights, and the indelible mark he continues to make on the Spokane we know and love. Get ready for an enriching conversation that delves into the heart of Spokane's past, present, and future with Michael Senske.

Today, joining us on If Not Now When is Matt Goodwin, a true Spokane pioneer—a man whose ventures have shaped the city's landscape and woven into the fabric of its identity. Matt Goodwin is behind some of Spokane's most iconic dining spots – Pub Club, Marquee, Volstead Act, Press, the Boiler Room, Remedy & Brickwest Brewing, and others. Each establishment is a chapter in the saga of Spokane's growth. Today, we want to explore not just his businesses but the ethos behind them & Matt's commitment to crafting unique experiences, and his unyielding belief that every venture should add a vibrant stroke to Spokane's canvas. So, buckle up for an enlightening conversation with Matt Goodwin, where we unravel the tales of entrepreneurship, delve into the beating pulse of Spokane's culinary scene, and catch a glimpse of his vision for the city's future.

On this episode of "If Not Now When," we host Chandler Baird, the driving force behind Spokane Eats. Chandler is a Spokanite who has made it her mission to uncover our beloved city's hidden gems, delectable delights, and vibrant culture. Through Spokane Eats, Chandler has not only showcased the diverse flavors of Spokane but has also championed the local businesses and entrepreneurs that make our city unique. Her passion for food, travel, and storytelling has brought Spokane's food and culture scene into the spotlight So, grab a seat, pour yourself a cup of your favorite Spokane coffee, and get ready to embark on a culinary journey through the heart of our city with the one and only Chandler Baird. Chandler, welcome to 'If Not Now, When?'

On the episode of "If Not Now When," we are thrilled to host two distinguished Spokanites, Jess Walter and Dan Spalding. Jess Walter, a NY Times bestselling author renowned for his novels, and Dan Spalding, a multifaceted artist and real estate developer, bring their unique perspectives to the forefront. Together, we embark on a journey to explore downtown Spokane's rich tapestry and its role in shaping this vibrant city's past, present, and future.Jess Walter's literary prowess and journalistic background allow us to delve deep into Spokane's history, culture, and community dynamics. His insights into Spokane's transformations over the years, from a thriving arts scene to revitalization efforts, provide a captivating backdrop for our discussion.Dan Spalding's unconventional journey offers a unique perspective on Spokane's urban renewal. His passion for revitalizing the city's core and his artistic endeavors contribute to the city's vibrant cultural landscape.Join us in a conversation about Spokane's past glories, present challenges, and the collective vision that Jess and Dan share for a more dynamic and inclusive future.

Join us on the first episode of "If Not Now, When?" On it, we welcome Stephanie Vigil, a highly respected news broadcaster with over two decades of anchoring experience at KHQ-TV. Stephanie's deep connection to Spokane, Washington, and her extensive coverage of local events uniquely position her as a trusted and knowledgeable voice in discussions about revitalizing downtown Spokane.Stephanie's journey, from the news desk to launching her startup apparel company, offers invaluable insights into the economic aspects of downtown revitalization and the potential for fostering small businesses.Gain a deeper understanding of Spokane's revitalization effort through the perspective of a remarkable individual who has played an integral role in shaping Spokane's media landscape.Learn all about Stephanie's pickleball apparel company, VGL, here; www.vglgear.com

If Not Now, When? a podcast hosted by Joshua Hissong & Brennon Poynor will focus on the conversations surrounding "What can we do to make downtown Spokane a thriving & strong community?" On each episode, we will bring a diverse range of individuals to explore innovative ideas, identify challenges, and collectively discover actionable steps to create a thriving downtown community. By fostering dialogue and collaboration, we seek to inspire and empower our listeners to take an active role in shaping the future of Spokane, embracing the belief that positive change begins now.