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Intrinsic Leadership is a thought-provoking podcast hosted by Aaron Robbins, Jimmy Karam, and Dr. Drea Zigarmi, delving into the multifaceted world of leadership. Join this dynamic trio as they explore the essence of leadership, dissect the Leadership in Context model, and navigate through essential topics like self-discovery, leading in diverse contexts, and mastering crucial leadership skills such as active listening, conflict resolution, and goal setting. Whether you're a seasoned leader or aspiring to become one, this podcast offers valuable insights to help you unlock your intrinsic leadership potential.

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Tune in as Jimmy interviews Ashley Jensen, an enterprise sales executive at Noom Inc and a seasoned marathon runner, in our series from EPIC HR 2024. Ashley shares her lifelong passion for running, including her experiences from early competitions to conquering the Boston Marathon. This discussion delves into the performance psychology that has fueled her athletic and professional successes. ©2025 Intrinsic First, LLC. All Rights Reserved
In this thought-provoking episode of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast, we delve into the complex dynamics of trust in the context of elections. With a special focus on the psychological factors that drive voter behavior and loyalty, we explore how trust is built and challenged during political campaigns. We discuss the phenomena observed in the current presidential election, such as the enduring support for high-profile figures despite numerous controversies. Join us as we unpack the me...
Introducing Drea

Introducing Drea

2023-10-1025:24

In the inaugural episode of "Intrinsic Leadership," we kick off the series with a warm and insightful introduction from our co-host, Drea. Join us as Drea shares his unique journey and experiences in the world of leadership, offering a glimpse into his passion for personal growth, values, and the pursuit of intrinsic leadership. Get ready to embark on this enlightening leadership journey with Drea as he sets the stage for the exciting conversations and valuable insights to come in future epis...
Introducing Jimmy

Introducing Jimmy

2023-10-1118:28

In the second episode of "Intrinsic Leadership," we turn the spotlight on another co-host, Jimmy, as he takes the center stage for his introduction. Tune in to hear Jimmy's captivating story and his profound connection with leadership. Discover how his unique journey has shaped his understanding of leadership, the impact of values, and the pursuit of intrinsic leadership. Jimmy's episode provides a fascinating insight into his background and perspectives, setting the stage for the engaging di...
Introducing Aaron

Introducing Aaron

2023-10-1128:22

In our third episode of "Intrinsic Leadership," we are thrilled to present the insightful introduction of one of our co-hosts, Aaron. Join us as Aaron shares his compelling personal and professional journey, shaped by nearly two decades of leadership experience across various domains. In this episode, Aaron delves into his passion for enhancing workplaces and his mission to make the world a better place to work through leadership and organizational development. Gain valuable insights into his...
In this episode of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast, co-hosts Aaron Robbins, Dr. Drea Zigarmi, and Jimmy Karam discuss the essence of leadership. They emphasize that leadership is not a fixed trait but rather a set of actions that anyone can practice and develop. The hosts delve into various aspects of leadership, including the importance of defining it as a verb rather than a noun. The conversation explores the influence of genetics and environmental factors on leadership skills, empha...
In this follow-on episode from Episode 4, the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast continues the exploration of defining leadership. We delve into the essence of leadership, emphasizing the importance of values alignment, meaningful debate, and the impact of leadership on the welfare of all involved. We also touch on the challenges of our current polarized society and the need for leadership to guide us towards more productive discussions and decisions. If you enjoyed this episode, please...
In this episode of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast, we introduce a new framework for leadership. This episode provides an initial overview of the leadership-in-context framework that sets the stage for the upcoming series of podcasts, each delving into different aspects of leadership. We begin by discussing the complexity of leadership in various contexts, including self, 1-to-1, team, organization, and alliance. The complexity and dynamics of leadership grow exponentially as you move ...
In this episode, we discuss the concept of disposition, which refers to preferred behaviors that are often exhibited without conscious thought. We explore various dispositional modes of response, including extroversion and introversion, fight-or-flight responses, risk-taking versus risk-assessing, and accepting versus controlling. We emphasize the importance of self-awareness regarding one's disposition and how understanding it can lead to greater versatility and effectiveness in different si...
In Episode 7 of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast, we continue the discussion on leadership in context. We talk about leadership in various contexts including self and 1-to-1 context, highlighting the importance of understanding self-development and the challenges of changing oneself. We touch upon how people often resist change due to fear and a lack of models for personal growth. We also briefly discuss the concept of power and influence in 1-to-1 interactions. If you enjoyed this epis...
In Episode 9, we delve into the second topic of prepare: values. We discuss the origins of intentions and what drives people based on instinct and disposition. The episode highlights that values play a crucial role in shaping one's behavior and decision-making, often driven by enduring beliefs. These beliefs can be personal, developed over time, or socially oriented. We also touch on the development of values, using examples like the moral development stages proposed by Lawrence Kohlberg. We ...
In this episode, we continue our discussion about values and how they impact decision-making and behavior. We explore the difference between acquired values and developed values, with an emphasis on the importance of the latter. Using the example of smoking, we delve into how individuals form their values and consider the impact on themselves and others. We also touch on the concept of justice, discussing the balance between self and other rights, the implications of decisions, and the quest ...
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In Episode 11, the podcast delves into the concept of persona as the third element of the prepare practice of leadership in context. Persona involves understanding the mask individuals put on, especially in response to societal expectations and pressures. The discussion covers the shadow self, which represents the aspects people may dislike about themselves and the masks they wear to fit societal expectations. The conversation expands to leadership, highlighting the challenges leaders face wh...
Episode 12 of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast continues the exploration of the concept of persona in leadership. We discuss the importance of self-awareness, aligning personal values with leadership roles, and the challenges of external expectations. We also share anecdotes, including a story about a baseball player who realized he didn't want to play anymore after a leadership training session. Make sure to watch through the end to hear our funny not so funny joke. If you enjoyed this...
In Episode 14 of "The Intrinsic First Leadership" podcast, we delve into the complex topic of motivation. We discuss various theories of motivation, including Freud's ideas on cell deprivation, Pavlov's classical conditioning, and Skinner's reinforcement theory. The conversation explores the historical development of motivation theories and their applications in organizational settings. We particularly focus on self-determination theory (SDT), emphasizing autonomy, relatedness, and competence...
In episode 15 of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast, we continue our discussion on motivation and delve into its application in different situations. We emphasize the importance of creating an environment that encourages individuals to thrive and experience autonomy, growth, and a sense of connection. We share some practical examples such as coaching experiences in youth football, parenting youth volleyball, and organizational rewards. If you enjoyed this episode, please like, subscribe, ...
In Episode 16 of the Intrinsic First Leadership Podcast, we dive into a thought-provoking discussion on the various forms of power in leadership. We explore the concept of power, emphasizing its control over limited resources that others desire. The episode covers different forms of power, including formal and personal power. We discuss the impact of these power dynamics on leadership and how they can be both positive and negative. We also delve into the challenges faced by those with limited...
Episode 17 continues the discussion on the topic of power and its implications in leadership. We delve into various aspects of power, including formal and informal types of power, the importance of using power constructively, and the challenges of speaking the truth to power. Throughout the episode, we share anecdotes and insights related to the dynamics of power in organizations and society. We emphasize the need for leaders to use power responsibly and transparently, fostering a culture of ...
In Episode 18, we discuss leadership in the 1-to-1 context. We emphasize that leadership is not a static thing but a set of behaviors. A key aspect of leadership is the development of an individual's skills and commitment to meet the company's needs or job requirements. We focus on leadership as a combination of directive and supportive behaviors, depending on the context and the direct report's competence and commitment. We delve into the phases of performance that individuals go through, wh...
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