Laws and Grace

A collection of human experiences. Every episode is a different story, a different perspective.

Culture Shock and Fitting in with Michelle

What is it like to move to Utah, the land of Mormonism, as someone who is not a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? In this episode, we chat with Michelle who has a positive spin on fitting in. Follow us @LawsandGrace Theme song by Johnny C. Leavitt

08-09
33:55

Competing in Pageants with Kadee Jo

Have you ever wondered what it takes to earn the crown in a pageant? Is it like it looks in the movies? Maybe not exactly, but she did win Miss Congeniality. In this episode, Kadee tells us about choosing what to wear and how she chose talents that...weren't talents she necessarily had yet and also casually mentions how she worked in a graveyard. Follow us on @LawsandGrace for updates Theme song by Johnny C. Leavitt

08-02
34:13

Making Deliveries with Joseph

We see them on the streets, we're always excited when they come to our houses, it's...Amazon delivery drivers. Joseph talks to us about some of the pros and cons to delivery driving, how to talk to dogs you run into, and why you should answer unknown numbers. Follow us on @LawsandGrace for updates Theme song by Johnny C. Leavitt

07-26
37:50

Donating a Kidney with Sophia

In this episode, we talk with Sophia who donated a kidney to a stranger. We talk about the process, the recovery, and why it was worth it. Follow us on @LawsandGrace for updates Theme song by Johnny C. Leavitt

07-12
31:28

Back at it Again with Laws and Grace

Our hiatus is over and we're ready to chat again! In this episode we chat about how we spent this first half of 2023 investing in ourselves and why we think it's okay with making mistakes along the way.

07-10
26:19

Loving Generously with LJ

LJ talks to us about the months she's spent grieving her partner and how she's learned that grief is absurd, it comes in sneaker waves, and it's proof of enduring love. We talk about art therapy, bringing piñata to grave sites, what not to say to someone who's grieving, and so much more. Thank you for being raw with us, LJ!  Topic Warning: Suicide and loss. LJ posts about her journey with grief on Instagram: @life.afteralex

11-09
50:10

Navigating Workplace Boundaries with Matt

Work consumes at least 1/3 of your day so how do you set and maintain appropriate boundaries? We're still figuring it out, but Matt has some ideas. In this episode, he talks about signs to look for that indicate a job might be a good fit and the many things he's seen that don't work. Matt is a data master and marketing strategist with a knack for problem-solving. 

11-02
01:10:22

Acting and Casting with Tannah

From Little Mermaid to Mayor of a fully immersive fantasy theme park, Tannah has played many parts. We talk about what it's like on both sides of the casting call, how acting makes someone empathetic, whether it's more fun to play a hero or a villain, why onesies are an essential piece in one's wardrobe, and so much more in this episode. Tannah is the Assistant Director for Evermore Park and also spends time charming audiences throughout Utah. 

10-19
01:01:46

Parenting Biracial Kids with Kristen

Kristen talks about her own experiences and all the research she has done to better parent her biracial kids. How does it help to let the kids take the lead? How do you know when and how to stand up for your kids? How do you educate people about microaggressions? How do you help kids be themselves? We discuss all that and more in this episode.  To learn more from Kristen follow her podcast @mixed_podcast on Instagram.

10-12
01:02:00

Camping and Campaigning with Candy

What's it like to work at a Boy Scout camp as a 15-year-old girl? How do you run a summer camp? How does all that relate to being a campaign worker or working for a political party? All these questions AND MORE are answered in this episode. 

09-28
01:07:46

Therapy Thoughts with Maire

Maire shares her personal experience deciding to become a therapist, what people can expect from therapy, how to find a therapist, what is EMDR, and more! We covered as many therapy basics as we could in this episode. If you are looking for a therapist in your area you can try searching on PsychologyToday.com Follow Laws and Grace on Instagram: @LawsandGrace

09-21
01:09:12

Producing Television with Tess

Tess "TK Thrillz" Kelly has produced everything from live comedic television to viral videos. She was also one of Utah Valley Magazine's 40 Under 40. She gives us the inside scoop on what it means to be a producer as well as some fun stories from her life. Spoiler: She met (and confused) Jeff Goldblum. We're excited to be back with Season 3! Follow along on Instagram @LawsandGrace Tess Photo by Jordan Bree Photography Theme Music by Johnny Leavitt 

09-14
01:00:05

Wedding Stories with Suzie

This is an innocent episode featuring confessions of a wedding planner and venue owner, but it also has a TRUE CRIME moment. You will laugh, you will gasp, and you will be inspired by the words of Suzie. She has seen it all, from seeing sweet moments of love to inebriated acts of...passion. Plus, wedding planning tips and why flowers are important.

04-27
01:10:17

Lack of Plans with Laws and Grace

It's just us again. What could have possibly changed since we chatted in November? Well, Laws broke her leg in three places, Grace bought a house and started a new job and we both learned a lot about how plans can change in a moment.  Follow us on Instagram @LawsandGrace and come back in two weeks for more episodes! 

03-23
01:17:09

Supporting Women with Allison

It's Women's History Month and International Women's Day on March 8th so we wanted to bring in one of the best women's advocates we know. Allison started a networking group for women that hosted events. Braid Workshops inspired women entrepreneurs to start businesses, meet their goals, and thrive. She opens up to us about what it's like to be a woman of color in the workplace and the variety of experiences she has had in different industries as well as running her own business. 

03-02
01:09:37

Summiting the Grand Teton with Tessa

Tessa tells us about climbing to the highest point on the Grand Teton even as people around her were turning back. Between the ice, the altitude, and 18-inch ledges it was quite the adventure. She talks about finding strength inside herself as well as calling on help from loved ones who had passed. This episode contains PG-13 language in one section, on account of difficult rock climbing. 

02-23
49:15

Composing and Performing with Jennifer Thomas

Jennifer's music has provided the soundtrack for many people's lives, including a gold medal Olympian. We chat about how music evokes emotion, creative writing processes, and the power of pursuing your passion.  Follow Jennifer on Instagram @JenniferThomasOfficial and follow us @LawsandGrace

02-16
47:55

Connecting in Conflict with Mallory & Stranz

Have you ever had a disagreement with a loved one? You're not alone. While Mallory uses examples from marriage relationships, this is a must-listen for anyone in any kind of relationship...aka everyone.  Get even more relationship advice on Instagram: @makemarriagework and follow the podcast @LawsandGrace!

02-09
59:14

Authentically Advocating for Yourself with Stacey Harkey

Stacey is a comedian, health and fitness coach, and advocate for equality. We talk about how to be confident in the face of naysayers (whether in person or online) and a lot of other things like dating, Taco Bell, plants, and social media. If you want the kind of motivation only a spin instructor can provide, you'll want to tune into this episode!  He was an original cast member of BYUtv's Studio C, started a media company (JK! Studios), and has discovered that he gets the most of out of life when he's not only cracking jokes but working to make his community a better place for everyone. He not only works with local nonprofits like Equality Utah, but also spends his time creating and leading corporate trainings about racial and sexual diversity. 

02-02
01:11:36

Opera Singing with Sydney

Sydney talks us through life as an opera singer, responding to criticism, moving to Canada, and tips for choosing and finding a career that fits your needs. You can find her on social media (Instagram and TikTok): @sydneyfrodsham.  

01-26
01:00:00

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