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MSP Mindset with Damien Stevens
MSP Mindset with Damien Stevens
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Host Damien Stevens (CEO of Servosity) gives a front-row seat to MSPs who refuse to play small. MSP Mindset dives deep into what truly elevates an MSP—not just technology, but leadership, mindset, and strategy. Through our mission to interview 100 of the world’s top-performing MSPs, we’re uncovering the habits, bold decisions, and mindset shifts that drive real growth—without burnout. No fluff. No theory. Just the stuff that works.
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Daily File Verification, Done for You ►► https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvHe lost 75% of his business—and didn’t lay everyone off.When a major contract was canceled with no warning, Joseph Bonanno’s MSP lost the majority of its revenue and was suddenly on the brink of collapse. But instead of giving up, Joseph doubled down on what mattered most: his people. He placed nearly every employee from the failed project, rebuilt his company with a culture-first focus, and came back stronger.In this powerful and emotional episode, you’ll hear how Joseph transformed Archetype from a fast-scaling MSP into a resilient, value-driven company where culture comes firstChapters:0:00 - Intro1:52 - Starting his business10:33 - Learning to say "no"17:35 - Changing up their hiring system27:41 - Losing 75% of revenue40:11 - Hiring great talent in a small town51:55 - MSP Titan Questions Connect more with Damien and Joseph:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensJoseph: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephwbonanno/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Daily File Verification, Done for You ►► https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvIn this week's episode, Anthony Mangiluso, CEO of PCS, shares how he went from grinding for a decade to reach 10 employees to scaling his MSP to ~240—by building predictable revenue, delegating hard, and using unconventional “buy back time” moves like the "Tech Tank". And it didn't come easy... along the way, he lost roughly 40% of his revenue—and was able to build it back within a year. Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:23 - Starting his MSP9:44 - Going from 0 to 60 employees (2010-2018)29:14 - Transitioning to managed services37:31 - Going from 60 to 240 employees (2018-2024)-59:59 - MSP Titan Questions Connect with Damien and Anthony:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensAnthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonymongeluzo/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Daily File Verification, Done for You ►► https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvStruggling to grow your MSP beyond referrals? Think you need to be a tech expert or have outside funding? In this episode of MSP Mindset, Dan Monk reveals how he scaled Fencecore from $1.5M to $10M in just two years—with no technical background, no funding, and no shortcuts. Discover how this self-funded MSP owner used cold calling, relationship selling, and scrappy hustle.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:25 - From accountant to successful MSP20:08 - Going from $1.5M to $10M33:58 - How he handled/managed people during their hyper growth42:53 - The wall at $10M47:50 - Learning to overcome struggles55:05 - MSP Titan QuestionsConnect more with Damien and Dan:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensDan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-munk-39472439/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Daily File Verification, Done for You ►► https://bit.ly/4lh8HUv
Most MSPs say small markets limit growth. Jamie Branson proves otherwise. He built an $8 million MSP in Montana with no defined vertical and a team hired largely from the hospitality industry.
In this episode, Jamie shares how customer experience, non-traditional hiring, and intentional culture building helped him attract 122 new logos in a single year. If you're struggling to scale your MSP in a "non-tier-one" market, this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:11 - Getting started as an MSP
10:20 - What he attributes to their success
33:20 - Culture & hiring people who actually care
58:52 - MSP Titan Questions
Connect with Damien and Jayme:
Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevens
Jayme: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayme-branson-55b0238/
📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Servosity: Daily file-level verification that catches corruption before disaster strikes: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvWhat do the top-performing MSPs have in common? For David Bennett, it boiled down to two things: obsessive standardization and learning the power of "no." After nearly burning out and almost tanking his company, David rebuilt by creating systems so dialed-in they could run without him—and reclaiming his life by setting boundaries and realigning his priorities.In this episode, he reveals how you can simplify operations, reduce noise, and grow without burning out.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:33 - Getting started as an MSP14:52 - His first year as owner and the unforeseen challenges23:37 - Overcoming thinking small (it's all in process)33:43 - What he attributes to his growth53:27 - Learning to say "no"1:06:26 - MSP Titan Questions 🤝 Connect with Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevens🤝 Connect with David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidhbennett/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbzzyR7yX9l9XQaZCBp0v0g
Tired of babysitting backups? Servosity can help: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvFrank Cox's journey is unlike any other MSP you've heard. From addiction and broken family ties to buying a failing MSP and transforming it into a $5M powerhouse, Frank opens up about his raw, emotional transformation. This isn't just about growth metrics—it's about leadership, surrender, and rebuilding from rock bottom. If you're stuck at the $1M or $2M wall, Frank shares exactly how he broke through with team trust, peer groups, pricing changes, and EOS.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:50 - From addict to changed life19:42 - Becoming an MSP owner26:12 - How he completely turned around the business41:36 - How he's doubled revenue in 2 years1:04:52 - MSP Titan Questions Connect with Damien and Frank:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensFrank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-cox-6b0912259/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Spending too much time on backups? Then Servosity's co-managed backups are for you: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvIn this episode, Greg Zolkos reveals how company culture became the driving force behind Atlas Professional Services’ rise to a $10M MSP. While many chase tools and tactics, Greg focused on building a workplace people didn’t want to leave—and clients noticed. From firing toxic clients to crafting a values-driven culture, this is a roadmap for any MSP owner who wants loyalty, longevity, and leadership.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:54 - Growing hit MSP22:06 - How he learned to let go29:40 - How he got to $10M46:50 - Amazing client and employee retention57:45 - What he considered in his exit1:08:38 - MSP Titan Questions Connect more with Damien and Greg:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensGreg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zolkos/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbzzyR7yX9l9XQaZCBp0v0g #msp #managedservices #managedserviceprovider
Say "no more" to babysitting backups, check out Servosity's co-managed backup services: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvIn this week's episode, Michael Strong, co-founder of Blue Layer IT, reveals how he built one of the most quietly impressive MSPs in the country. No cold calls, no lead funnels, no crazy marketing—just long-term relationships, radical transparency, and a people-first culture that turned into serious momentum. His story is proof that your MSP's growth doesn't have to look like everyone else's (or involve annoying marketing tactics!). Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:23 - How they've grown to 55 employees26:44 - Why he hired a Chief Strategy Officer40:44 - His why53:05 - MSP Titan Questions Connect more with Damien and Michael:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensMichael: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-strong-2704135/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Most MSPs are leaking margin without even knowing it. But one MSP flipped the script—and turned backups into a 70% margin revenue line.Today's guest is Doug Lowenthal, CEO of MSP Fuel and former MSP owner, and he's sharing exactly how he did it. This episode was recorded as a Live Q&A session titled How to Price Backups for Profit as a team effort between Servosity and MSP Fuel.Servosity's Backup Process: https://servosity.com/backup-proces-playbook/MSP Fuel: https://mspfuel.com/Chapters:0:00 - Why listen to Doug/his history11:44 - His backup standard16:23 - Understanding your costs around backup28:13 - How to communicate value to your clients➡️ Connect with Damien and DougLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevens/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglowenthal/
Turn backups into a top profit driver, sign up for our Live Q&A ➡️ https://bit.ly/4924PD2This MSP went from $2M to $17M with almost entirely on organic growth.Jeff Gaines shares the bold, organic growth journey of Interlaced—from small MSP to one of the fastest-growing in the country. Learn how a clear niche, cultural discipline, and “systems thinking” transformed their trajectory.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:51 - Getting started at Interlaced7:52 - Getting bought and working with PE14:57 - How/Why they niched on startups24:22 - How they grew from $2M to $17M54:20 - His role at Lyra58:45 - MSP Titan Questions Connect more with Damien and Jeff:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensJeff: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbgaines/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Turn backups into a top profit driver, sign up for our Live Q&A ➡️ https://bit.ly/4924PD2In this week’s episode, Jeff King shares how he grew his break fix IT company to 130 employees, landed massive government contracts, and still ended up deeply unhappy. What followed was a bold decision to let go of enterprise dreams, move away from break fix to being a true MSP, and slowly restructure to what they wanted, a smaller MSP focused on people and being happy, not just money (which they’re doing fine by the way!).Chapter:0:00 - Intro1:21 - Growing a 130 employee break fix store9:10 - Challenges that came from a large company17:26 - Saying no to millions, misery, and break fix41:55 - Growing the MSP part of the business57:17 - MSP Titan Questions Connect more with Damien and Jeffrey:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensJeffrey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-king-03b80b4/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Turn backups into a top profit driver, sign up for our Live Q&A >>> https://bit.ly/4924PD2In this week’s episode, Jeff King shares how he grew his break fix IT company to 130 employees, landed massive government contracts, and still ended up deeply unhappy. What followed was a bold decision to let go of enterprise dreams, move away from break fix to being a true MSP, and slowly restructure to what they wanted, a smaller MSP focused on people and being happy, not just money (which they’re doing fine by the way!).Chapter:0:00 - Intro1:21 - Growing a 130 employee break fix store9:10 - Challenges that came from a large company17:26 - Saying no to millions, misery, and break fix41:55 - Growing the MSP part of the business57:17 - MSP Titan QuestionsConnect more with Damien and Jeffrey:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensJeffrey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-king-03b80b4/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
What happens when your MSP’s biggest client walks overnight? Seann Moreno lived it. He first scaled past 30 employees by learning to let go—delegating, empowering, and getting out of the weeds. But there was a fatal flaw: one client made up almost all of the revenue. And when they pulled the plug, Seann went to –$400k profit trying to rebuild from the ground up. In this candid conversation, he breaks down exactly how he eventually stabilized, rebuilt smarter, and continued to let go like he did in the beginning—result: $600k profit within a few years.Chapter:0:00 - Intro1:07 - Growing his MSP and learning to let go32:07 - Losing his largest client55:39 - Going from -$400k to $600k profit1:06:31 - MSP Titan Questions Connect with Damien and Seann:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensSeann: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seann/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Spending too much time on backups? Then Servosity's co-managed backups are for you: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvWhat do you do when you’ve spent over $100K on marketing… and have nothing to show for it? Robert Choynowski did just that—until he cracked the MSP growth code.In this episode, Robert shares how his MSP, SeaGlass Technology, went from slow, mediocre growth to back-to-back years of 150%+ growth. After wasting a small fortune on four failed marketing firms, he finally shifted strategies, and then everything changed. If you’re stuck, overspending, or just feel like your growth has stalled, this conversation could be your roadmap.Chapters:0:00 - Intro00:55 - Why his marketing didn't work and his pivot24:24 - Claiming his niche and getting insane growth36:23 - MSP Titan Questions👉 Connect more with Damien and Robert:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensRobert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rchoynowski/https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Tired of babysitting backups? We're the only backup provider that tests everything for you: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvWhat happens when an MSP goes all-in on a hyper-specific niche most people would avoid? In this episode, we sit down with Chris McHale of SPK and Associates, who reveals how her MSP scaled to 30 employees by targeting a neglected business unit inside engineering companies. And the best part? Little competition.Chris shares the tough leadership lessons she learned as a technical founder, how she avoided the commoditization trap, and why building domain expertise can unlock outsized growth and sticky clients.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:26 - Starting SPK and picking her niche18:40 - Digging deeper into her niche34:57 - How she differentiates today1:01:48 - How does her niche affect hiring and culture?1:09:43 - Co-managed and their vertical1:13:22 - MSP Titan Questions Connect more with Damien and Chris:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensChris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismchalekling/🎙 Listen on audio:Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/msp-mindset-with-damien-stevens/id1669572779Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5B1k3Z8qXBGBSCJeSScjBE?si=c5d185c306064520#msp #managedservices #managedserviceprovider
Servosity, when all fails, we make sure you can recover ➡️ https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvWhat if process was your greatest sales tool? In this episode, Jason Caras, co-founder of IT Authorities, reveals how meticulous operations and a culture-first hiring approach helped him scale from bootstrapped beginnings to a $34M MSP. Discover how he transformed customer trust, team culture, and sales performance by making process the heart of the business.Chapters:0:00 - Intro2:10 - What does he attribute to his success?8:03 - Getting started with his MSP27:53 - The genius way he differentiated40:09 - How their process shaped hiring1:04:49 - Exiting his MSP and mistake made prior1:18:31 - MSP Titan QuestionsConnect more with Damien and Jason:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensJason: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncaras/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
On today's episode, Damien sits down with Peter Bell, CEO of Techno Global Team. With 1,000 staff across 12 countries and 300 MSP clients, Peter shares what’s really happening with AI, automation, and the future of tech support. From AI killing Level 2 roles to ethics battles over voice changing, this episode is packed with insights MSP owners need now.Connect with Damien and Peter:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensPeter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/techno-pete/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Stop overlooking backups, let Servosity co-manage them with you: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvGlen Buehler, CEO of Oxygen Technologies, joins Damien on this week's show to share the real story behind one of the wildest MSP turnarounds ever. From $6M to $50M in just 3.5 years, 8 acquisitions, and every deal done self-funded. Glen opens up about how he finds undervalued MSPs, builds alignment with founders, and leads teams through culture-driven transformations that actually scale.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:21 - From $6M to $50M in 3 years with M&A16:22 - How they've been so successful with M&A1:10:31 - MSP Titan QuestionsConnect with Damien and Glen:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensGlen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghbuhler/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Tired of babysitting backups? Servosity's co-managed backups puts your backup burden on them so you can focus on your business: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvMatt Lee—Senior Director of Security and Compliance at Pax8—sits down with Damien to unpack the future of MSPs. From AI risks to legal landmines in compliance, Matt brings the fire. He shares the brutal lessons from a $3 million ransomware attack and the uncomfortable truth about most MSPs’ inability to prove compliance. If you care about staying alive—and thriving—as an MSP, you can’t miss this one.Connect with Damien and Matt:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevens/Matt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cybermattlee/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset
Tired of babysitting backups? We've got your back at Servosity: https://bit.ly/4lh8HUvFeeling stuck at $1M in revenue?Gene Reich was too — until he realized he was meant for more.In this episode of MSP Mindset, Gene shares the journey from solo tech with a backpack in NYC to running a 30+ employee MSP and launching a SaaS company. He opens up about the identity crisis, the painful lessons, and the strategic mergers that transformed his business. If you’ve ever hit a wall in your MSP growth, this episode is your roadmap.Chapters:0:00 - Intro1:26 - Starting his MSP5:28 - Getting over the $1M hurdle12:51 - Growing the company with a merger29:00 - Growing outside of his MSP52:00 - Conclusion Connect with Damien and Gene:Damien: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dstevensGene: https://www.linkedin.com/in/genereich/📺 Watch on YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mspmindset



