Marketing Dilemmas

It’s like therapy—for B2B marketers. On Marketing Dilemmas, host Liam Bartholomew unpacks one big marketing headache at a time—with help from leaders who’ve been there, failed, and figured out what works.

The chat-based search dilemma: Is Keyword Research Obsolete? With Zak Ali, Finder

Chat-based search and LLMs are blowing up the old keyword-first playbook. Zach Ali (GM, US at Finder) makes the case for “anti-SEO”: persona-led content, utility over templates, and measuring revenue and LLM visibility - not vanity traffic. We dig into query fan-out (why many focused pages beat one pillar), how first-party data and calculators earn citations, and why today’s SEO must be a full-stack marketer across paid, video, and newsletters. Plus: a quick take on making CRO wins stick beyond the initial spike.

11-04
44:05

The Post-Test Drop-Off Dilemma: Why Wins Fade with Estelle Marasigan, Website and Creative Services Lead at Cognism

Liam sits down with Estelle, Cognism’s Website & Creative Services Lead, to unpack a common dilemma: why “winning” A/B tests sometimes fade after rollout. They dig into a post-launch performance framework (7/30/60/90-day checks), how to control for seasonality and site changes, the role of sales/MarOps in attribution, and turning test insights into durable pipeline impact.

10-21
40:05

Beyond the ICP: Rethinking Reach in B2B Marketing with Deivis Rupslaukis

In this episode, Liam sits down with Deivis, Founder of DERU Digital, to explore a dilemma every B2B marketer faces: how narrow should your targeting really be? Deivis shares his experience of discovering a vendor before he worked at an ICP company - and how that shaped his belief that brand reach needs to extend beyond account lists. They dive into the risks of over-segmentation, why reach is often undervalued in B2B, and how to balance short-term pipeline pressure with long-term influence.

10-07
49:29

When Performance Drops: A Marketer’s Playbook for Diagnosing Problems with Jonathan Bland, Co-founder of Omni Lab

Jonathan Bland, Co-Founder of Omni Lab, joins the Marketing Dilemmas podcast to tackle one of the toughest questions marketers face: “Why is performance down?” He shares how to avoid knee-jerk optimisations, build a systematic process for diagnosing issues across channels, and communicate findings in a way that earns trust, even when the answer isn’t simple.

09-23
49:47

The differentiation dilemma: How do you really stand out? With Sarah Breathnach, VP of Marketing at Hunters

In this episode of Marketing Dilemmas, Liam sits down with Sarah Breathnach, VP of Marketing at Hunters and Founder of the Demand Gen London community. Together they unpack one of the toughest challenges in B2B right now: how to stand out in a crowded, copycat market without falling into the trap of gimmicks or feature wars. Sarah shares lessons from the cybersecurity industry, her “small teams, big impact” positioning, and why true differentiation comes from clarity, consistency, and customer experience - not monster trucks or marketing hype.

09-09
48:50

The Comfort Trap Dilemma with Michael Maximoff

Too many marketing teams fall into the comfort trap - sticking with what’s “always worked” and avoiding change until results dip.In this episode, Michael challenges that mindset head-on. He shares why waiting for a downturn before testing new channels or formats is a risky move, how to run small experiments alongside BAU, and the mindset shift needed to keep performance growing in a fast-changing market.

08-26
49:10

The zero-click search dilemma, with Tom Mansell, VP of Organic Performance at Croud

What happens when your SEO strategy stops delivering clicks? Tom Mansell, VP of Organic Performance at Croud, joins Marketing Dilemmas to unpack the radical shift in search behavior. From AI-powered search engines to plummeting click-through rates, Tom explains why traditional SEO metrics no longer tell the full story - and what forward-thinking marketers should do instead.

08-12
49:25

The new market penetration dilemma with Adina Apachitei, Global Director of Best Practices Programme

Adina, Global Director of Best Practice Programs at AVEVA, joins Marketing Dilemmas to unpack one of the hardest challenges in enterprise marketing: how do you effectively penetrate new markets when you’re juggling long sales cycles, complex portfolios, and competing internal priorities? From thought leadership to funnel strategy and outbound alignment - this episode breaks down the real blockers to driving growth in new segments.

07-29
53:06

The innovator’s dilemma: Risking a successful product to chase new heights with Maura Rivera, CMO at Qualified

What do you do when AI creates both your biggest opportunity and your biggest risk? In this episode, Maura Rivera, CMO at Qualified, shares how her team made the bold decision to pivot away from their successful flagship product and reposition entirely around an AI-powered SDR agent. It’s a story of product bets, internal resistance, and how to go all in - before the market catches up.

07-15
48:45

Marketing the marketing team with Florian Frese, Marketing Director at Wire

In this episode of Marketing Dilemmas, Liam is joined by Florian Frese, Marketing Director at Wire. Together, they unpack a challenge every marketer faces but few talk about: internal marketing. From building trust across teams to avoiding the dreaded “marketing in a silo” trap, Florian shares candid insights into what it really takes to get internal buy-in, show marketing’s value, and foster cross-functional alignment. Plus, how sharing updates on LinkedIn can double as your best internal comms hack.

07-01
42:16

Trapped by the Ideal Customer Profile with Ben Smith, Marketing Director at Reachdesk

In this episode of Marketing Dilemmas, Liam sits down with Ben Smith, Marketing Director at Reachdesk to tackle a growth challenge many scale-ups face: what to do when you’ve nailed your ICP but are starting to hit a ceiling. They unpack how Reachdesk refined their targeting, improved win rates, and now face the next big question - how to expand without losing focus. Expect insights on ABM signals, scrappy tactics, first-party data, and the true power of gifting in B2B.

06-17
48:38

The Demand Gen Marketer’s Call to Product Marketing Arms with Tas Bober, Founder of The Scroll Lab

B2B marketing isn't just campaigns and channels - it's understanding your product like a PMM.In this episode, Tas Bober (Founder at Scroll Lab) shares how realising her weakest link - product marketing - led her to build a lightweight, scalable framework every demand gen marketer can use to bridge the gap, run faster, and never rely on a last-minute slide again.She breaks down:Why most campaigns fail from a lack of product contextHow she built a mini-PMM process from scratchWhy this framework will save you (and your sales team) hoursWhether you’re in-house or agency-side, this is your blueprint for becoming a deeper generalist - and making better marketing decisions.

06-03
57:47

The art of nurturing: When is a prospect really ready? With Steffen Hedebrandt, CMO at Dreamdata

In this episode, Liam is joined by Steffen, CMO and co-founder of DreamData, to unpack one of B2B marketing’s trickiest challenges: how to bridge the gap between awareness and sales readiness without jumping the gun. They dive into the dilemma of where marketing should focus its energy in the funnel - top, middle, or bottom - and explore what it really takes to turn passive awareness into high-intent engagement. From AI-led outreach to benchmark reports and one-to-one dinners, it’s a conversation about timing, touchpoints, and finding the sweet spot before the demo.

05-20
50:35

Evolving an ABM strategy that actually works, with Cognism’s Tim Hughes and Liam Collins

In this episode of The Loop, Tim and Liam reunite six months after their first ABM deep dive to share how their program at Cognism has matured into a high-performing machine. From refining their ICP and working hand-in-hand with sales to building an account prioritisation engine and embracing out-of-the-box 1:1 tactics, this conversation is packed with actionable insights for any team trying to scale ABM without overspending on tools.

04-22
32:04

How Cognism is scaling upmarket with Cognism’s VP of Paid Acquisition, Liam Collins

In this episode of The Loop, Joe McLaughlin sits down with Liam Collins, VP of Paid Acquisition at Cognism, for an inside look at how the marketing team is driving Cognism’s shift into the mid-market and enterprise space. From laying strong strategic foundations to aligning sales and marketing around a single North Star, Joe and Liam unpack the planning, data modeling, messaging evolution, and ABM initiatives behind the move. A must-listen for marketers looking to scale smart and go upmarket with impact.

04-07
31:04

Why big brands win, and how you can compete, with Dale Harrison

Cognism’s Senior Demand Generation Manager, Joe Mclaughlin speaks to Dale Harrison, brand marketing and commercial strategy expert about the slow movement of market share, the importance of brand awareness, and why companies must balance brand and performance marketing for long-term success.

03-18
57:40

Mastering Content IP and Strategic Marketing with Brendan Hufford, Founder of Growth Sprints

In this episode of The Loop, host Joe Mclaughlin sits down with Brendan Hufford, Founder of Growth Sprints, to discuss his unique approach to content strategy, naming problems instead of categories, and why "checkbox marketing" is holding companies back. Brendan shares insights on content IP, channel-agnostic marketing, and innovative tactics like the "immortal newsletter" and AI-powered audience analysis. Tune in for actionable strategies and fresh perspectives on how to create marketing that truly resonates.

03-04
42:19

Optimising websites and implementing systematic website testing with Estelle Marasigan

In this episode of The Loop Podcast, host Amy sits down with Estelle, Cognism’s Web and Design Lead, to discuss all things website optimization. Estelle shares insights from her two and a half years at Cognism, diving into the various A/B tests, design tweaks, and SEO improvements that have driven measurable results.

02-18
38:47

How we redefined our ICP with Evan Nelson, Cognism’s VP of Customer Experience

Cognism's VP of Marketing, Liam Bartholomew is joined by Evan Nelson, VP of Customer Experience to share their joined experience redefining Cognism's ICP during the CHASM project. Listen to find out how we implemented the CHASM project, the difference between true best-fit ICP and the mystifying ICP and how we’re investing in the highest impact areas.

02-07
46:04

When to localise or translate content in international organisations with Cognism’s Content Managers

Cognism’s Demand Gen Content Manager, Amy Collins chats to SEO and Content Manager (France), Charlotte de Beaumont about Cognism’s demand generation content strategy across regions. When do you translate, localise or create net new?

01-21
32:24

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