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Author: Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter

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Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson are professional marathoners chasing fast times and big goals on the roads. Training out of Flagstaff, Arizona, they’ve got plenty of stories from the grind of big mileage, the chaos of race travel, the highs and lows of racing on the world stage and the random stuff that happens between workouts. With a passion for storytelling, running culture, and building community, Rory and Jacob bring listeners behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. Training talk with a few detours.
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Please do us a massive favor and like, rate, and share the podcast if you enjoy it!Biya is a former teammate and training partner of both Jacob and Rory. We got to chat with Biya about his new coaching set up with Ian Carter and the workouts that lead to his 2:06 Marathon in Valencia last year. We touch on his fueling and race strategies. We chat about the competition in New York City Marathon and what Biya has done to prepare for the course.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website
Give us a follow and join us on social media if you enjoyed today's episode.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteToday on the Out and Back podcast, we sat down with professional marathon runner Reed Fischer. We talked about Reed bouncing off the World Championships to race the New York City Marathon. We covered how he is preparing for multiple marathons in a season, his experience at the World Championships, and his preparation for the upcoming New York City Marathon. We dove into the evolution of the Tin Man Elite team and the challenges of professional running. Reed shares insights on the competitive landscape of marathon running and his personal goals for the future.
⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s Website"Marathons are freaking hard!"
Be sure to give us a rating and leave a comment!⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteWe discuss the upcoming Chicago Marathon, focusing on Rory's training, Canadian record attempts, and the competitive landscape of elite marathon running. They delve into the importance of consistency in training, pre-race preparations, and the dynamics of race day. Chicago Marathon Trivia Questions. The conversation also touches on the elite fields for both men and women, highlighting key athletes and their potential performances. And lastly, we offer some tips for runners participating in the event."I did the highest mileage build of my career.""I felt pretty locked into 445 pace."Chapters00:00 Race Week Anticipation03:07 Training Insights and Record Attempts05:53 The Importance of Mental Preparation08:56 Race Week Logistics and Media Obligations12:09 The Competitive Landscape of the Chicago Marathon14:55 Interactions with Fellow Athletes17:51 Marathon Progression and Personal Growth26:04 The Evolution of a Marathoner29:12 Preparing for the Chicago Marathon31:37 Trivia and Insights on the Chicago Marathon37:20 Analyzing the Men's Field46:01 Final Thoughts and Race Day Tips
Blanks Sports NutritionIn this episode of the Out and Back podcast, Rory and Jacob welcome Michael Arashida, CEO and founder of Blanks Sports Nutrition. They delve into the complexities of sports nutrition, emphasizing the importance of individualized fueling strategies for athletes at all levels. Mike shares insights on the art and science of nutrition, the challenges of running a sports nutrition company, and common mistakes made by amateur athletes. The conversation highlights the necessity of practice and experimentation in finding the right fueling methods, as well as the balance between high performance and health.Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteChapters00:00 Introduction to Blanks Sports Nutrition01:44 The Importance of Customization in Sports Nutrition05:00 Art and Science of Fueling for Performance08:08 Trial and Error in Finding the Right Fuel12:06 High Performance vs. Health13:17 Functional vs. Optimal Performance15:53 Training the Gut for Endurance19:59 Front-Loading Fueling Strategies21:30 Understanding Race Day Nerves and Nutrition30:23 The Art of Fueling: Gels vs. Liquids34:56 Navigating the Challenges of Running a Nutrition Business39:11 Common Mistakes Amateur Athletes Make43:41 Final Thoughts on Nutrition and Performance
In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, hosts Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter welcome Julia Paternain, a bronze medalist at the Tokyo World Championships in the marathon. Julia shares her unique journey from a competitive swimming background to becoming a marathon runner, detailing her experiences in college athletics, her training in Flagstaff, and her preparation for the Tokyo marathon. She discusses the challenges she faced, her strategies for success, and the surreal experience of winning a medal for Uruguay. The conversation highlights the importance of community, the emotional aspects of competition, and Julia's plans for the future as she navigates her newfound success.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteChapters00:00 Introduction to Julia Paternine02:40 Julia's Unique Background and Journey11:54 Transition to Flagstaff and Training17:24 Tokyo World Championships Experience22:37 The Surreal Experience of Success24:34 Whirlwind Aftermath of the Race28:22 Deciding the Next Steps31:34 Preparing for the Tokyo Marathon42:20 Momentum and Strategy During the Race44:30 The Thrill of Finishing in a StadiumJulia Paternine, marathon, Tokyo World Championships, bronze medal, running journey, Flagstaff, training, athlete, sports, competition
In this episode of the Out and Back podcast, hosts Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter discuss the excitement of the fall marathon season, including the upcoming Cow Harbor 10K and the importance of training strategies like fatigue resistance. They recap the recent world championships, highlighting thrilling finishes in both the men's and women's marathons, and celebrate Julia Paternain's historic bronze medal. The conversation also touches on the drama of the 1500m final, predictions for the upcoming 5K races, and the potential for more stadium finishes in road racing, emphasizing the blend of preparation, luck, and the electric atmosphere that championship races bring.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteChapters00:00 Introduction and Fall Racing Season02:04 Race Preparations and Expectations05:34 Training Philosophy: Fatigue Resistance12:13 Championship Marathons: Insights from Recent Races20:33 Highlighting Underdogs: Julia Paternan's Journey22:54 Dramatic Events: The 1500m Final Recap23:38 The Blunt Truth of Performance24:50 Controversy in Competition: The DQ Debate26:51 Finals and Surprises: The 1500m Race28:27 The 10K Upset: Gressier's Victory31:49 Kijelcha's Transition: From Track to Road33:08 5K Predictions: A Competitive Landscape36:39 Dark Horse Picks: Surprises in the 5K40:10 Women's 1500m: Kipjegon and Rising Stars42:16 Marathon Finishes: The Stadium Experience
In this episode of Out and Back, hosts Jacob Thomson and Rory Linkletter welcome their first guest, John Green, head coach of the Verde Track Club. The conversation explores John's journey from a successful high school and collegiate runner to a professional coach, discussing his coaching philosophy, the impact of COVID-19 on training, and the importance of athlete engagement. They delve into the challenges of competing on a global stage, the lessons learned from coaching, and the strategies for building a successful team. The episode wraps up with insights on favorite workouts and future aspirations in the world of running.running, coaching, marathon, athlete, training, Olympic trials, coaching philosophy, injuries, competition, professional runningRory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson are professional marathoners chasing fast times and big goals on the roads. Training out of Flagstaff, Arizona, they’ve got plenty of stories from the grind of big mileage, the chaos of race travel, the highs and lows of racing on the world stage and the random stuff that happens between workouts. With a passion for storytelling, running culture, and building community, Rory and Jacob bring listeners behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. Training talk with a few detours.⁠Join our Strava group⁠Follow us:⁠Rory’s Strava⁠⁠Jacob’s Strava⁠⁠Rory’s Instagram⁠⁠Jacob’s Instagram⁠⁠Rory’s Youtube⁠ Jacob’s WebsiteChapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest02:51 John Green's Journey as a Runner and Coach05:57 Transitioning from Athlete to Coach09:06 Coaching Philosophy and Athlete Engagement12:06 The Impact of COVID-19 on Training and Competitions14:48 Building a Successful Coaching Team17:56 Competing on the Global Stage20:48 Lessons Learned from Coaching and Injuries24:01 Favorite Workouts and Training Strategies26:42 Looking Ahead: Goals and Aspirations29:38 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up
Episode 1:In the inaugural episode of the Out and Back podcast, hosts Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson discuss their backgrounds in running, current training regimens, and upcoming marathon goals. They delve into the importance of consistency in training, the challenges of medium long runs, and the debate between taking days off versus running every day. The conversation also covers strategies for racing the Chicago Marathon, emphasizing the mental and physical aspects of marathon preparation. The hosts invite listeners to engage with the podcast and share their experiences in the running community.Show Notes:Rory Linkletter and Jacob Thomson are professional marathoners chasing fast times and big goals on the roads. Training out of Flagstaff, Arizona, they’ve got plenty of stories from the grind of big mileage, the chaos of race travel, the highs and lows of racing on the world stage and the random stuff that happens between workouts. With a passion for storytelling, running culture, and building community, Rory and Jacob bring listeners behind the scenes of the marathon lifestyle. Training talk with a few detours.Join our Strava groupFollow us:Rory’s StravaJacob’s Strava Rory’s InstagramJacob’s InstagramRory’s YoutubeJacob’s WebsiteChapters00:00 Introduction to the Out and Back Podcast01:12 The Mission Behind the Podcast04:44 Hosts' Backgrounds and Running Journeys07:25 Life Changes and Training Updates09:26 Goals for Upcoming Marathons12:03 Racing Strategies and Mindset13:59 Reflections on Past Races16:49 Preparing for the Final Weeks Before a Marathon22:46 The Challenge of the Midweek Run28:09 The Debate: Six Days vs. Seven Days of Running34:38 Strategies for Racing the Chicago Marathon
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